Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, April 06, 2009

Before he killed 13 people and then himself in a Binghamton, N.Y., immigrant center, Jiverly Wong mailed a letter to a TV station. "Any way I can not accepted my poor life," wrote Wong, who was angered by his inability to master English. "Before I cut my poor life I must oneself get a judge job for make an impartial with undercover cop by at least two people with me go to return to the dust of earth."

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What a loser! He killed immigrants trying to fit into the melting pot. POS Wong.

Yea, this guys not nutz.

It's all about the guns I tell you.

If it werent for guns this would have never happened and the whole world would be just fine. If it werent for guns the sun would always shine. If it werent for gun my dumb ass couldnt whine.

Manypaths

Obviously he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Text book case.

If it werent for guns this would have never happened
True.

Obviously he was a paranoid schizophrenic.
Prime NRA candidate.

Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?

Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?

I wish it didn't, but I think it does.

Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?

I think it's obvious that they are the ones most in need of some reassuring firepower. Enemies everywhere!

In fact I think they deserve to carry concealed.

Reading historian's accounts of gun ownership in America from 1616- mid 19th Century it's clear gun ownership was the exception rather than the rule. A musket in every house is a myth movies perpetuated. Just isn't fact. Most guns until the mid 19th Century came from England. In fact, even Boston only had at the most 3 gunsmiths. Gun ownership in America did not become commonplace until industrial manufacturing hit our shores.

Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2009-04-06 08:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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No Sir. I do not believe it does because the foundation for the Second Amendment goes back to the time it was required of every able bodied free males to have a rifle for protection against Foreign enemies, Against other States and Saveages(Native Americans. You can not tell Me a skitzo has having a able body because of their mental defect. I do not believe they have that right.

Larry

"Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?"

Posted by rcade at 2009-04-06 08:52 PM

Nope. Folks who have been "adjudicated mentally defective" are prohibited by law from owning firearms. Really did a lot of good, didn't it?

See question f.

www.atf.gov

"Before I cut my poor life I must oneself get a judge job for make an impartial with undercover cop by at least two people with me go to return to the dust of earth."

- Jiverly Moneywar Wang

Sniper will like this one.

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Nope. Folks who have been "adjudicated mentally defective" are prohibited by law from owning firearms. Really did a lot of good, didn't it?

Ah. So the trick is not to be "adjudicated mentally defective." What a phrase that is. I know one ex Marine sniper that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a weapon. Of course he's "sane."

Sniper will like this one.

Nice ghillie.

So the trick is not to be "adjudicated mentally defective."

Or you can just lie on the form, but they'll find out.

"Nice ghillie."

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"Anyone think the Second Amendment protects the right of paranoid schizophrenics to keep and bear arms?"

Nice way to counter the usual idiocy of ng3.

Ah. So the trick is not to be "adjudicated mentally defective."

There are other reasons too.

Want to know the one that really gets under my skin?

There's a section on the NICS form for Social Security Number. It's not a required field. If you don't put anything in the field, the dealer doesn't ask you for it.

Nor does the system when he calls in, apparently.

I wonder if they've tracked down where this guy got his guns from. It would be interesting to see if he got them from a gun show from a private seller or if he got them from a licensed dealer or from a shop.

How'd he fill out the forms?

Why'd the seller even sell the guy a gun when he obviously doesn't have a working knowledge of the language?

"It would be interesting to see if he got them from a gun show from a private seller or if he got them from a licensed dealer or from a shop."

#18 | Posted by Axiom at 2009-04-07 05:40 AM

You forgot "or it was stolen."

AXIOM

You made some good points about SS# and a working knowledge of the English language. A SS# is essential in finding out if the name matches, thorough background checks, etc. You change one letter in your name or a digit in your DOB - something someone could easily miss as they check your ID - and all bets are off. With the SS# you know if all the info matches.

How did he get into the country and become a citizen?

I thought some sort of an English language test is mandatory?

Anyway, the little creep killed a Pakistani girl (one of the victims).

Just like the US... a magnet for crazy people... who are given guns like passing out candy.

www.shrunklink.com

NEW YORK, April 6: Ms Parveen Ali, a 26-year-old woman of Pakistani origin, was one of the 13 victims of the disgruntled Vietnamese national who killed himself last Friday in Binghamton (New York). Ms Ali's brother Nader told reporters on Sunday that she was "the base of our family" and a "martyr".

"There's nothing we can do," he said. "She was an innocent person who got killed for no reason." Nader Ali said he, his mother, his sister and a brother had come to the United States in 2001. His sister became a US citizen and a teacher, so she continued to go to the civic association to improve her language skills.

"She was like a parent. She was like a friend. She was a teacher. She was a facilitator who always pushed me to go through school, to go through college," he said.

Funeral for Ms Parveen Ali was held on Sunday afternoon at a local mosque. An interfaith memorial service for all the victims was held late in the evening, and hundreds of people took part in a candlelight vigil afterward.

Police said they believed Jiverly Wong, the 41-year-old Vietnamese immigrant from an ethnic Chinese family, shot 17 people at the centre and then killed himself.

Four people were in serious condition in local hospitals but were expected to survive, police said.

Wong had been taking English classes at the association and was upset about recently losing a job, but officials said no clear motive for the killings was immediately evident.

"Before I cut my poor life I must oneself get a judge job for make an impartial with undercover cop by at least two people with me go to return to the dust of earth."

I don't even know what that crap meant.

I also don't understand HOW and WHY this person couldn't learn the second-easiest language on Earth sitting inside the US?

I have never been out of my country (and don't plan to) and English isn't my first language, but I picked it up and can speak and write better than most Americans, thank you very much.

If someone like me... who has never seen America... be comfortable with the English language, what was wrong with this loser?

A blaster in hand is always better than a cop on the phone.

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"what was wrong with this loser?"

Posted by Tosser at 2009-04-07 06:34 AM

He was nuts.
It's discussed upthread.

Two sought in early morning home invasions
Date: Monday, April 06, 2009
news@wylienews.com

Law enforcement officials are looking for two black males believed to have committed offenses in Wylie, Lavon and Sachse this morning, April 6.

About 6 a.m., Wylie police received a 911 call saying that two black males had kicked the door in and held residents at gunpoint in the 500 block of Candlewood Court.

The suspects demanded money, police said. They were wearing dark clothing with dark bandanas over their faces. One of the residents was struck in the face with the pistol and received minor injuries.

www.wylienews.com

He was nuts.

Nuts learn and speak English just fine. I can point out many such on DR.

And second.. is it common in America to hand out guns to confirmed nutters?

And second.. is it common in America to hand out guns to confirmed nutters?

It is not necessary to present a certified psychological profile from a mental health specialist to buy a gun in the US.

what was wrong with this loser?

He was crazy. I can point out many such people in Pakistan, too. It happens.

Law enforcement officials are looking for two black males believed to have committed offenses in Wylie, Lavon and Sachse this morning, April 6.

YIKES! Those three place names jumped out at me. I grew up 3 miles from Wylie, used to party at Lake Lavon, and have a cousin who lives in Sachse.

All they have to do is to pull that stunt at my cousin's house and that crime spree will be over, although there will be a mess to clean up afterwards.

If crazy folk like I'manutjob, from Iran can own nukes with the full support of DR whackjobs on this board who say things like, "Who are we to say others can't have nukes?"....and if whackos like Kim Jong-il of North Korea can shoot missiles over other countries, while the same boneheads on this board think it's unfair for the US to tell whackjobs like Kim that he can't have such weapons, then it's pretty disingenous for the same libtards on this board to clamor for gun control, and keeping guns from this country's whackjobs.

More libtard hypocrisy on display!

The mentally ill don't need to be institutionalized. Let 'em live on the street.

Ronald Reagan

I can point out many such people in Pakistan, too.

Do it.

Right now.

I know we have plenty of nutters of our own... of all sorts... and I can point them out. But can YOU?

Do it. I wanna see.

He was crazy.

And is America crazy too?

"Give me your tired, your poor, your assholes, your nuts..."

THIS is what happens, if you keep scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

And my question was.. which nobody can answer... why was English such a problem for this guy and HOW did he become an American without knowing any English? Isn't there a test you have to take???

tosser

as funny as it sounds

english is not the official language of the usa.

insanity.

even first geners like myself don't understand this.

(spanish speaking latin americans are the reason why we haven't made english the official language.)

guys in pakistan there are nuts. and they do nuts things like this, but they almost always have a political agenda.

pointless massacres are much less then in the usa, where its becoming more and more common that just being depressed is a reason to kill everyone.

if depression was a reason to kill, 50% of married men in pakistan would be out murdering ;) haha

english is not the official language of the usa.

It's not???

Amazing. English is the official language of Pakistan! (along with Urdu) hahahahahahahaha

spanish speaking latin americans are the reason why we haven't made english the official language.

Oh.

if depression was a reason to kill, 50% of married men in pakistan would be out murdering

Ooooo... I will make sure my gal doesn't see this page...

"Amazing. English is the official language of Pakistan! (along with Urdu)"

i know man...

my republican half is all about making english the official language. haha

f'n learn english!!!

You forgot "or it was stolen."

A possibility, for sure.

Gun ownership in America did not become commonplace until industrial manufacturing hit our shores.
#8 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2009-04-06 09:02 PM | REPLY

How does this fact affect 2nd amendment rights in the slightest?

Gun ownership in America did not become commonplace until industrial manufacturing hit our shores.
#8 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2009-04-06 09:02 PM | REPLY

How does this fact affect 2nd amendment rights in the slightest?

The Constitution was drawn up in the 18th Century - when gun ownership was not widespread and guns weren't manufactured in the United States and pretty hard to come by (the British used most of their gun production for their Army, so the Dutch were a large source). Murders with guns were a VERY rare occurrence.

It wasn't until the mid 19th Century that gun production came to America and the explosion in gun ownership and gun crime occurred.

The 'right to bear arms' could apply to any arms if taken literally. Common sense dictates that we need to interpret the 2nd Amendment in light of current times. We don't allow people to have bazookas, artillery, atomic bombs, or anything else now considered 'arms'.

AXIOM's points about gun registration are common sense - SS#'s required for proper background checks. If recent history hasn't shown us some people who have guns have no business having guns what will?

Any rational gun owner shouldn't have a problem with rational gun registration designed to protect them from those who shouldn't have guns owning and possessing them in the first place.

Got no problem with rational and reasonable gun registration. Got no problem on restricting bazookas, artillery, etc.

However, I don't think you want to stop there. Guns aren't meant for just hunting and protection against burglars... and, I don't think the fact there wasn't widespread gun ownership at the time of the 2nd amendment means you can regulate to the point of having 1 musket per 10 households.

From CIA's Operation Open Eyes:

Shortly after the Austrian met with Rayelan, the tragedy at Columbine
happened. Rayelan now believes that the Columbine killings were the
beginning of the final push to take all guns out of the hands of the
American people. One month, to the day, after Columbine, another similar
shooting occurred in Georgia. These killings are not random acts of teenage
violence. These school killings are a planned, methodical attack on the
American Constitution and the freedom which is enjoyed but taken for
granted by citizens of the United States of America.

The method of the attack is designed to inflame anger and hysteria in the
American public. The media whips up the anger and hysteria and keeps it
fresh in America's mind, with continual graphic, around the clock,
"overkill" coverage and commentary of the dead and wounded victims, the
pain and suffering of the families, and the traumatic scars left on America's
children. The President uses the hysteria of the moment to blame guns for the
problems in Americas schools and with America's children. In the heat of
hysteria, Congress is pressured to pass more guns laws.

Planned attacks? Grassy Knoll? Aliens run the world?

OMG, aliens run the world...

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