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Friday, April 03, 2009

The Alaska Republican Party is calling on Democratic Sen. Mark Begich to resign his first-term post as senator, one day after Attorney General Eric Holder cleared former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens of felony charges Wednesday. "The Alaska Republican Party believes that current Senator Mark Begich should resign his position to allow for a new, special election, so Alaskans may have the chance to vote for a senator without the improper influence of the corrupt Department of Justice," the Alaska Republican Party's Web site states.

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If Begich had any character he would resign and run again in the special election. If he is truly the peoples choice he would be reelected.

As it stands his being elected in this matter smells of corruption because of the hanky panky by the justice department prosecutors.

Bullcrap!!! Ted Stevens made his bed, let him lay in it.

The Alaska Republicans and Sarah Palin have no Constitutional basis to demand a 'do-over'. First it was Norm Coleman in Minnesota, and now this crap. The Grand Old Party is turning into a bunch of whiners. If this is how they are going to behave for the next 12-18 months, the 2010 elections will put a fork in the GOP.

OCU

Oldcocksucker, Stevens never should have been indicted in the first place. The prosecutors withheld key evidence and their star witness contradicted his own earlier sworn statements.

I am curious to find out who the prosecutors are and what political bent they have.

I believe this whole prosecution was a political ploy to get Stevens out of office. The Tom Delay indictment is the same kind a bullshit.

I believe this whole prosecution was a political ploy to get Stevens out of office. The Tom Delay indictment is the same kind a bullshit.

#3 | Posted by buzkiller

Even though the U.S. Attorney for that district was a Republican appointed by the Bush Administration's Justice Dept.?

That's really stretching credulity.

They had an election. Steven's name was on the ballot. People didn't elect him. If they thought he was being railroaded they'd have reelected him. Maybe they just got tired of having a guy represent them who had for too many years (and was in his mid 80's). He wasn't fairing too well in the polls, even before his indictment.

Statements like #3 and many others by supposed 'Republicans' are why the party is in the tank. The lunatic fringe with the loudest megaphones (Hannity/Rush/Back/Savage) are sinking the GOP like the Titanic.

Waaaaaaa

Statements like #3 and many others by supposed 'Republicans' are why the party is in the tank. The lunatic fringe with the loudest megaphones (Hannity/Rush/Back/Savage) are sinking the GOP like the Titanic.

So what you're saying is it's not their policy causing them to lose ground, politically? It's the fact that they're talking about their policy with conviction?

Gotcha.

Reading this site, I had the idea that you guys just didn't WHAT they were saying, not that they were saying it. I'll get a memo out right now so they can work on that permanent republican majority again!

Palin Calls for Begich's Resignation
www.politico.com

Lack of Sunlight May Place Some at Risk for Seasonal Affective Disorder
www.bsu.edu

Begish to Alaska GOP: Yeah, Right!

I got into the Senate race long before Senator Stevens' legal troubles began because Alaskans were looking for a change and a senator as independent as Alaska. Today, with our country in a severe recession, it's more important than ever that we have a senator focused on fixing our economy so Alaskans have the jobs they need to support their families. That is my job in the Senate, and I'm honored to serve Alaskans for the next six years.
tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo
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Right is right, and fair is fair. Time for a new election, just as there should be one in Minn. They're both contaminated.

Between these morons (Sarush is involved, so that may be redundent name calling) and Normyboy, ya gotta ask, Why do Rushpublicans hate democracy? Wanna guess how many GOPpers will be demanding Bjago gets HIS job back if he's found not guilty?

But wasn't this the prosecutorial plan Rove wanted to use against Democrats that caused the brouhaha about the fired Prosecutors? Another Bush Mission Accomplished.

But this may be a great way for Rushpublicans to win seats. Get their buddies to indict them, lose, them have a competent (Democrat) Prosecutor drop the charges and then claim they 'know' how the voters really would have voted, so they deserve the seat.

May be the ONLY way for them to win. Ted'll have his shot in 2014.

What a bunch of Mooseshit Palin is. Begich ran alongside Stevens and beat Him out fair and square. If She doesn't like it She can KMA that's Kiss a Moose's Ass not the usual Kiss My Ass.

Larry

Hey You know NorthGuy3 Ted Stevens could place campaign slogans upon individualy wrapped packages of Depends and hand them out at the local nursing home in 2014 if He runs again. He could call it the Diaper campaign.

Larry

"Right is right, and fair is fair. Time for a new election, just as there should be one in Minn. They're both contaminated."

Even the right wing lunatics posting this crap don't believe it but it is their duty to toe the party line. Some....not naming names....are doing it for profit. I got my suspicions about which ones and I think the ones I suspect know I know.

beat Him out fair and square


While under indictment for something he (apparently) didn't do? Lay the crackpipe down, Larry , get off your ass, make you're way to the door, open it, and breathe deeply of the Kansas air. Especially the oxygen portion of the air.

#14 | Posted by danni


If there was ever a poster here who could be accused of being a shill for their party, it'd have to be you, Danni

He could call it the Diaper campaign.

"Only one of us is full of shit!".

I think Ted should have a talk with his friends, Mucous and Dubya about the whole trial thing.

He should also thank Holder for this, but I can't see a Republican ever thinking a black man could get something right.

He gets a do over in five more years.

"Right is right, and fair is fair. Time for a new election, just as there should be one in Minn"

I must have missed the part in the Constitution where it says the person with the most votes only wins as long as American1st approves of the results.

OTOH it is heart-warming to see the GOPPers admit to something the libruls have been saying for years about Bush:


" the corrupt Department of Justice," the Alaska Republican Party's Web site states."


If Begich had any character he would resign and run again in the special election. If he is truly the peoples choice he would be reelected.


As it stands his being elected in this matter smells of corruption because of the hanky panky by the justice department prosecutors.

#1 | Posted by buzkiller

The people of Alaska have spoken... no criminals for Senate.

Deal with it you crybaby.

He got off on a technicality - he is not due anything more than any other criminal defendant in this country.

Time for a new election, just as there should be one in Minn. They're both contaminated.

#10 | Posted by American1st

But I am sure that you see the 2000 Florida election as fair, even though the SCOTUS stopped the total recount and handed Bushling the election.

Please detail how the Minn election is contaminated.... other than your boy lost.

Dems pulled their shit to indict Stevens, now Republicans should find a way to remove Begich and have a do-over special election. That's why I love politics. Maybe they can find LBJ's old ballot box full of stuffed ballots for Stevens that were never counted.

I generally vote Republican... but these guys need to get a grip...

Begich is NOT going to resign..

That's nonsense.

"If there was ever a poster here who could be accused of being a shill for their party, it'd have to be you, Danni"

Oh, I support my party alright but I don't get paid for it but I suspect some righties here who post all the time do. The one's I suspect know I suspect and they never seem to comment on the few occasions I have actually accused them. I'm not going to accuse now because it is too easy for them to just lie about it. Their posts are generally full of dishonesty which I've caught them in several times too so I know they are basicly liars.

"Dems pulled their shit to indict Stevens, now Republicans should find a way to remove Begich and have a do-over special election."

Just how did Dems pull anything???
Bush appointed the prosecutors.
Take it up with them.
Stevens should be glad they purposely fucked up the case to let him go free.

Bird could do the same and call them a headcover, you asshat.

Gary Condit had Gloria Alred convict him for Sandra Levy's murder in the media. Only later did it come out she was wrong. He did not whine for a do over.

Suck it up Ted, there are no do overs in US elections.

Maybe Mossealoosky (R) could resign and give the Alaskans the crook they want.

Reality and the right have never gotten along. Now the right has simply moved to a new planet where reality never existed.

And, as for Sarush's support of her best buddy Ted, where the fuck was she during the trial? Certainly not slamming the corrupt Bush DOJ when she was running for VP...

If you want a do-over then do the trial of Gov. Don Siegelman over. That is the best example of the corruption that was the Bush/Gonzalez/Rove Justice Dept.

That is the best example of the corruption that was the Bush/Gonzalez/Rove Justice Dept.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2009-04-03 09:34 AM | Reply


So Holder chose the Stevens case because...?

Or do you know better than he does?

Reality and the right have never gotten along.

#30 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 09:31 AM | Reply


Like the reality of B-Rock Obama bowing to the Saudi King? That kind of reality, speedbag?

I don't get paid for it but I suspect some righties here who post all the time do.

Yeah, they couldn't possibly be so involved in expressing their opinions that they come here daily and post frequently of their own volition, that maybe they are as obsessed as some of the libbies?

Of course if you're at work and on the clock then your employer is paying you to post here, unintentionally I'm sure.

Have you considered the fact that some people who smoke marijuana experience paranoia?

Stevens served long and did many good things for Alaska: but he is not perfect and God saw to it that Stevens don't retire in arrogance. Hence he was exposed and shaken. Ted Stevens should be grateful for this reprieve late in life and retire in quiet comfort.

But where will he spend eternity, I cannot tell. I tried to check his faith and discovered no clue. Maybe someone can fill in on this.

Like the reality of B-Rock Obama bowing to the Saudi King?

Ever say he didn't? Again, the whole right and reality thing....

Have you considered the fact that some people who smoke marijuana experience paranoia?

The birthers? Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Actually, most of the right anymore.

As for Holder "choosing" the case, reality is that he inherited it from Mucous.

"But I am sure that you see the 2000 Florida election as fair, even though the SCOTUS stopped the total recount and handed Bushling the election."

Actually they said it was the Florida Sec State's call. Kat Harris stopped the recount.

It sucked to be sure, but I think the SCOTUS ruled correctly in that case based on the facts before them. The Florida GOP just had dotted all their legislative i's and crossed all their legislative t's months before the election (Kat Harris, as Florida legislator at the time, was involved in writing the legislation that gave the sec state the authority she later used). Lucky coincidence for them I guess.

Ever say he didn't? Again, the whole right and reality thing....


#36 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 10:15 AM | Reply


You're a pathetic loser. Parsing and deflecting don't work.

Your hero bowed to the Saudi King. If it was bad for Bush to do it, it's bad for Obama to do it. Admit your defeat and move on, speedbag.

Let this be a lesson to you. Never go off of Stewarts script. If you do, simply steal somebody else's material, as you usually do.

www.fireandreamitchell.com

Take it easy Takitez, St Peter has not died and left you in charge of the pearly gates.

We measure a man on his acts, not his faith; for his acts are apparent while his faith, tho strong, may or may not be reflected in his/her seculay dealings.

Is there not a proscription for your curiosity in the good book?

"Judge not, lest ye be judged" comes to mind.

Go piss in a corner chair, when a dim witted racist dirtbag like you calls someone a loser it can be warn as a badge of achievement.

Nobody is buying what you are selling turd breath, go back under yer bridge and wait for some children to scare you lame brained smack talking douchbag.

OldWeakNStupid weighs in...

Why is it that this dimwit manages to twist you guys in knots so often? Hmmm, that's strange.

I'm sure Northtard appreciates you rolling to his defense. He's still trying to recover from his Messiah's bow to the Saudi King.


Bullcrap!!! Ted Stevens made his bed, let him lay in it.


The Alaska Republicans and Sarah Palin have no Constitutional basis to demand a 'do-over'. First it was Norm Coleman in Minnesota, and now this crap. The Grand Old Party is turning into a bunch of whiners. If this is how they are going to behave for the next 12-18 months, the 2010 elections will put a fork in the GOP.


OCU


#2 | Posted by oldCADuser at 2009-04-03


Uh NO you are like....you know...WRONG

apparently stevens did nothing wrong unless you also want to tell OJ and others who were found innocent that mistakes were made and so thier verdict was also overturned.
once again, liberals want something both ways.

and your comments about coleman and the clown are almost too sllly to even comment on

EXCEPT that I heard coleman this morning on fox and friends and he said

"If he wins, we dont need more anger in washington. If AFTER ALL THE VOTES are counted, the people elect him in, then thats thier right but Im confident that when ALL the votes are counted we will win"


and what is the height of frankens integrity

"rush limbough is a big fat idiot."

Anyone else actually read the article? It never says he was innocent of all charges. Its a good bet he's still guilty on some charges. It only states the information not provided to the defense was helpful to the defense of Stevens.

What I really love is how the conservatives cry foul when a criminal defendant is acquitted on a technicality. But when its one of their own, the technicality is a fundamental Constitutional right.

and so if you think its hypocricy then you will agree that he should have another chance at the senate seat because you know good and well that he would have won without this 'tainted' charges.

again....if the hypocricy is so bad, then you agree with the idea, then right??

and here may be a better example

so if it were shown that the fbi misbehaved in the blogjvich case..
should he get his governors job back?

Ted Stevens is 85-years old and has been in Congress since 1968. In THAT regard, it was time for him to go. HOWEVER, the method used to get him out of office STINKS. I know Danni will be along soon to defend the DEMOCRAT Federal prosecutor. The timing of all this, of course, had nothing to do with the election, I'm sure. Not with this being the most honest, most transparent administration in the history of the U.S.

If it was bad for Bush to do it, it's bad for Obama to do it.

It was. So far, however, Obama has resisted turning the US military into mercenaries to protect the saudi royals and their gold toilets, unlike the Bush family.

But, if you remember (and that's a big if), the whole issue started with you righties wetting your pants over the supposed insult the Obama's delivered to the Queen by not prostrating themselves on the floor.

And again,like the supposed IPOD insult,with nothing real to complain about, making shit up is all you've got left.

well at least you are awake anyway
but I guess you have been ON THE JOB for some time now................what cup of coffee are you on while you are BLOGGING ON COMPANY TIME>>...LOL

Like the reality of B-Rock Obama bowing to the Saudi King? That kind of reality, speedbag?

#33 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-04-03 09:39 AM


Kinda like the reality of King George the Idiot holding hands with him?

McCain wants do-over too:

"The Arizona Republican Party believes that current President should resign his position to allow for a new, special election, so Americans may have the chance to vote for a President without the improper influence, in the picking of the moosiah as VP candidate, of the corrupt Department of Fundie Ass-Kissers," the Arizona Republican Party's Web site states.

and to answer you

you know its just getting a little old to see the SMARTEST FUCKERS ON THE PLANET AND BEYOND to make one gaffe after another
with all the TAX CHEATS and the gifts and all of that

and dont for one minute think that if it were ANYONE other than the cult couple themselves, that the brits wouldnt be infuriated with the way the obamas were around her..
but the bottom line for me....its nothing to get worked up over....that stuff is one reason why washington was so great..
he could have started our presidents to expect that sort of treatment and he didnt....

The Arizona Republican Party believes that current President should resign his position to allow for a new, special election, so Americans may have the chance to vote for a President without the improper influence, in the picking of the moosiah as VP candidate, of the corrupt Department of Fundie Ass-Kissers," the Arizona Republican Party's Web site states.

#51 | Posted by northguy3 at


Id settle for just barry letting us in on the name of the hospital he was born in with the release of his birth certificate....( oh...he's gonna go apeshit over this one...)

the method used to get him out of office STINKS

Figures you'd be against elections.

Danni will be along soon to defend the DEMOCRAT Federal prosecutor.

A Bush appointee Prosecutor, a Bush appointee AG in the Bush DOJ and the rightwingtards still try to blame the Democrats.

The right and reality, 180 degrees apart and separating at the speed of light. That you Jest, for proving my point.


And again,like the supposed IPOD insult,with nothing real to complain about, making shit up is all you've got left.

#48 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 11:33 AM | Reply


As I said, you're an idiot. You're the poster child for the Sara Palin comments, petty Bush or McCain fuck-ups, etc (basically anything Jon Stewart talked about last night).

Who's making shit up dummy? Did he or did he not bow? Did he or did he not give the queen an ipod (that included his speeches)? Did Michele break protocol and touch the queen? Did Obama give Brown DVD's that didn't work? Did Obama try to walk in a window at the white house? Does he stutter and over-use "uhs" and "ums"? Did he make fun of the Special Olympians?
I don't think any of them are a big deal, but you limpwrists thought gaffes like those were hilarious prior to 1/21/09. Butch up.

Oh, try not to deflect or run away. I know it will be hard for you, but try to actually back up what you say, for once.

Id settle for just barry letting us in on the name of the hospital he was born in with the release of his birth certificate...

You mean the one that's all over the intertubes? That birth certificate, along with a copy of the birth announcement?

C'mon aflac, even you aren't that stupid.

But where's this "Bobby Jindal"'s birth certificate, or communion/baptism certificate? Hmmm....
You'd a thunk he could have used the photocopier his Qikki-Mart. Or is sanskrit too hard to photoshop?


the method used to get him out of office STINKS


Figures you'd be against elections.

#54 | Posted by YAV at 2009


oh yav

this could be called a S.B.D. answer..
good going.

)I told you he was going apeshit)....hee hee


and they showed other women curtseying to the queen and yet our cult couple didnt.

this just shows the arrogance of both of them.


and so how did THIS THREAD get into this area

oh yeah...northguy took us there.

"this just shows the arrogance of both of them."

First, just because you didn't see her curtsey doesn't mean she didn't.
Second, it would be the Queen who is arrogant expecting anyone to curtsy. She's just a woman, royalty is nonsense.

One point of protocol though that Obama does wrong (at least according to my Dad who was a 30 year Navy man) is when he salutes back to military people who salute him. MOst presidents have done the same thing. My Dad always said that the President is a civillian and shouldn't return the salutes which are for his office not him.

Second, it would be the Queen who is arrogant expecting anyone to curtsy. She's just a woman, royalty is nonsense.


but its not up to you..or me


and your dad has a point but it has always been done and he is commander in chief.
and he looks like he can at least do it properly or at least the way I have seen it done properly.

AGAIN.....its called manners

The President of the United States should bow to no one. Just like the American flag should never be flown lower than any other national flag. That's why I didn't like it when he apparently bowed to the Saudi King.

fuck that old fraud and fuck his retrograde supporters.

"Figures you'd be against elections."

Right, Yav. Figures you would be FOR proscutorial misconduct and tainted elections if your guy benefits. Now tell me....do you SERIOUSLY believe Stevens would have lost the election, IN ALASKA. As I said before, I feel no terrible loss with his being gone, it was time, but not like this. I'm sure you'd fill your pants if the other party did something like this to Byrd too. He should have been gone as well...no?

"I'm sure you'd fill your pants if the other party did something like this to Byrd too."

Except that it wasn't "the other party." "The other party", namely Holder, ordered the charges to be dropped.


The President of the United States should bow to no one. Just like the American flag should never be flown lower than any other national flag. That's why I didn't like it when he apparently bowed to the Saudi King.

#63 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue


but that really doesnt matter....the president of any country should show respect to the others..

and there is only one state in the union that is able to fly thier flag on equal to the us flag

THREE guesses who it is and the first two dont count...

"and there is only one state in the union that is able to fly thier flag on equal to the us flag"

Not surprised that Texans think that but it is still bull shit.


"4. When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the right of the flag of the United States (the viewer's left). When the flag is half-masted, both flags are half-masted, with the US flag at the mid-point and the other flag below."

www.ushistory.org

"A Bush appointee Prosecutor,..."

Are you saying the prosecutor was NOT a democrat? The statement I made was accurate.

wrong again

its in the agreement between sam houston and the us president

of course maybe the feds broke THAT agreement as well.

when the state flags are dipped during the national anthem the texas flag MAY be held at the upright position....but it normally isnt....

my link

okay you are really going to laugh at this one

in elementary school it was in the flat little texas history books we used.....and NO it wasnt current events for me...LOL

DANNI

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU for making me look this up

but please notice in my defence...the last sentence in the main paragraph..

so its not my fault even though I bow to you in deep humility.....


wiki.answers.com

We just like to think it does because our state is the best! ;)

"in elementary school it was in the flat little texas history books we used.....and NO it wasnt current events for me...LOL"

In junior high in Mississippi the text books claimed the slaves liked being slaves.

So much for state history text books....especially back in the days when we went to school.

A Bush appointee Prosecutor, a Bush appointee AG in the Bush DOJ and the rightwingtards still try to blame the Democrats.

#55 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 11:40 AM

Which Dems are being blamed and which rightwingtards are blaming them? As you pointed out, he was charged and prosecuted by Bush appointees. The fact is Obama, McCain and Palin were all calling for him to resign. It would be awful naive to think he didn't lose a razor thin race because of the charges. Guilty or not.

I posted long ago he was innocent. The man has millions of dollars and doesn't need the so called favors. I thought it would come out his son was who should have been indicted. For whatever it is worth.

So much for state history text books....especially back in the days when we went to school.

#73 | Posted by danni at 2009


uh speak for yourslef..
me ..I just turned 29........

AFK,
How can you be a 29 year old retired music teacher?

its a joke....

shit,....even danni got that one....

I have clothes that are 29 THAT I STILL WEAR....

Sorry AFK,
I usually expect jokes to be funny. =P


LOL

Are you saying the prosecutor was NOT a democrat? The statement I made was accurate.

Federal Prosecutors terms end on the same day the President's term does. He either replaces them or re-appoints them. Bush appointed him in 2004. And crispee-read jestgettingconfused's posts.

And chairborne-is DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA perfect? Absolutely not. Relative to Dubya, though, damn near. Then again, relative to Dubya, I've seen trees that would have made a better President. But they would have been way too smart to be a GOPper.

First--Begich didn't go anything wrong here.

You can argue that he didn't or wouldn't have won fair and square but for the trial he lost due to the prosecutors misconduct.

That is not a reason to overturn an election.


Stevens mistake was going for a speedy trial before the election.

He had maintained his innocents from day one.

As it turns out--he was right!

As he was cleared of all charges by Holder.

And I love how some believe that the public is supposed to know that someone is being railroaded when the law went after this guy with false statements and lies.


---

BTW--this will make at least two Dem Senators tainted--Begich and Burris. If Franken (let me get those ballots out of the back seat) wins that will be a third.


And it appears the 20th district in NY will go to Tedisco--a repub.

2010 can't get here soon enough.


Sorry AFK,
I usually expect jokes to be funny. =P


LOL

#78 | Posted by kanrei at


ouch

He had maintained his innocents from day one.

As it turns out--he was right!

As he was cleared of all charges by Holder.

Posted by MURPHY

I think you're just a wee bit confuzzled.

He was not "cleared" of charges. Charges were dropped because the prosecutors screwed up. Those are 2 VERY different things, legally.

And it appears the 20th district in NY will go to Tedisco--a repub.


2010 can't get here soon enough.

#80 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009


amen bro

I dont know about majority but a substantial amount of seats will change..

IM not ready to put money on it because republicans in dc can become pussies overnight.

"BUZKILLER".."AN THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING IDIOTS"..

Lets go real slow so that even the Governor of Alaska, an the rest of you ignorant fucks can understand. The Bush Administration's Justice Department, brought these charges against Sen. Stevens an it was the Obama Administration, an especially Attorney General Holder, who saw that the previous Administration had violated the rights of Sen. Stevens, so they drop the case.

Again, listen this doesn't mean that Sen. Stevens was innocent, all it means was that the Bush Administrations Justice Department violated the right of a sitting United States Senator. Now just imagine what these FUCKING CLOWN was doing to the average American Citizen an the constitution the swore to uphold...

You Fucking Republicans reaped what you sowed, an immoral Presidency an they got one of your own, get over it there is more to come......

He was not "cleared" of charges. Charges were dropped because the prosecutors screwed up. Those are 2 VERY different things, legally.


#82 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue


why is it that I keep hearing

'if the gloves dont fit, you must aquit"

And it appears the 20th district in NY will go to Tedisco--a repub.

#80 | Posted by MURPHY

Imagine that. A Republican might get elected in a district with over 70,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats!

Are you saying the prosecutor was NOT a democrat? The statement I made was accurate.
#79 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 12:51 PM

Don't think there was any refute to your post. Other than the publicity and the skewed charges killed his election. I was curious who was blaming dems? Which I thought I referenced.

prosecurial misconduct doesnt care what letter is after the name

if its enough to get cop killers and murderers and if we live in a country that gives constitutional rights to people SWORN TO KILL and take away those same rights..
then we can let this guy have an 'untainted' election.

or are you just scared.

Don't think there was any refute to your post. Other than the publicity and the skewed charges killed his election. I was curious who was blaming dems? Which I thought I referenced.

#87 | Posted by crispee_oc

I believe Jest said the prosecutor was a Dem in one of his posts.

#88 | Posted by afkabl2

Here's an idea...

Don't announce your departure and then keep posting for an hour.

Just leave quietly whenever you're ready.

okay

one more?????

Texas Online Tea Party



Outnumbered and surrounded, 200 brave men stood their ground against Santa Anna's Army for 13 days. All were aware that this would be the battle of their lifetimes, a struggle against impossible odds, yet they decided Texas Liberty was a cause important enough to die for. Colonel William B. Travis drew a line in the ground and said that any man willing to stay and fight for Texas should cross over the line. All, but one did.

Today, once again, the line has been drawn. You have a choice to cross over and defend Texas from unfair taxation, or accept the huge tax burden that accompanies the Liberal Democrat's outrageous spending plan.


there is no denying the backlash that the dems will not see coming

Here's an idea...


Don't announce your departure and then keep posting for an hour.


Just leave quietly whenever you're ready.

#90 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009


okay big guy

set your sensor

and today we are all even in the eat crow department....

and today we are all even in the eat crow department....

mmmmmmmmmmm crow ahhhggggg

Stevens never should have been indicted in the first place. The prosecutors withheld key evidence and their star witness contradicted his own earlier sworn statements.

I am curious to find out who the prosecutors are and what political bent they have.

I believe this whole prosecution was a political ploy to get Stevens out of office. The Tom Delay indictment is the same kind a bullshit.

#3 | POSTED BY BUZKILLER AT 2009-04-03 04:57 AM

Not to suggest that there was any sort of Machiavellian intent in all of this, but remember those 'prosecutors' worked for Bush's Justice Department and it now seems rather convenient that Stevens is suddenly the beneficiary of 'procuratorial incompetence' particularly when it's Obama's AG who is now left to 'clean up' the mess.

But since you brought up the idea that this was perhaps a 'political prosecution', what about the case of Ex-Alabama Governor Don Siegelman? That one looks like it goes all the way back to the office of Karl Rove, Bush's brain.

OCU

You keep dreaming about your fantasy world where the backlash against the dems is building, Afkabibal.

The rest of us out here in the real world will fix the mess you and your kind left behind from the past 8 years.

Maybe someone can dig up some shit on Birddick and get him indicted.

And chairborne-is DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA perfect? Absolutely not. Relative to Dubya, though, damn near. Then again, relative to Dubya, I've seen trees that would have made a better President. But they would have been way too smart to be a GOPper.

#79 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 12:51 PM | Reply


That didn't answer any of the questions that were asked of you, nor did it back up any of what you said.
Nice try dumbass.



And again,like the supposed IPOD insult,with nothing real to complain about, making shit up is all you've got left.


#48 | Posted by northguy3 at 2009-04-03 11:33 AM | Reply


As I said, you're an idiot. You're the poster child for the Sara Palin comments, petty Bush or McCain fuck-ups, etc (basically anything Jon Stewart talked about last night).


Who's making shit up dummy? Did he or did he not bow? Did he or did he not give the queen an ipod (that included his speeches)? Did Michele break protocol and touch the queen? Did Obama give Brown DVD's that didn't work? Did Obama try to walk in a window at the white house? Does he stutter and over-use "uhs" and "ums"? Did he make fun of the Special Olympians?
I don't think any of them are a big deal, but you limpwrists thought gaffes like those were hilarious prior to 1/21/09. Butch up.

#56 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-04-03 11:41 AM | Reply |


Try again. Try harder.

Why would some dope say this, I am a republican and that is stupid. Stevens should never have put himself in the position to even be indicted, He should lose for that. All pols are crooks after a while. Look at Dodd, shame is Conn will prbably relect him. And again, all of us will get screwed


Does anyone else picture Celisary as some sort of deranged, schizophrenic monster who twitches, bites his tongue and has one eye bugging out while he types?

#98 | Posted by JOE at 2009-04-03 02:55 PM | Reply |

If that helps you get over the fact hes right, and your wrong so be it.

and your wrong so be it.

#101 | Posted by KnightHawk at 2009-04-03 04:04 PM | Reply |


Yeah? And what was he wrong about dummy? Be specific.

"JOE"..."101CLAIRBORNE"...O.K. you mental fuck ups tell me where did my response go wrong, look it up again #84 an tell me what was not factual..... Go ahead make it up you usually do anyway, you fucks have no time for Facts....By the way I'm quite good looking ask your wives or girl friends or boy friends. Insults an the low road is the path of the Conservative Right in this Country, but you will never win because this OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!

Stevens Deserves a Do-Over

Nonsense. There have been many people that have been wrongly convicted and served time; decades in some cases. No one seriously discussed giving them a do over. They were given money and told to make a new life for themselves. Stevens needs to get busy making a new life for himself.

If Stevens really wanted to do something meaningful, he could become an advocate for improvements in the judicial system to prevent people from being wrongly convicted.

If Stevens really wanted to do something meaningful, he could become an advocate for improvements in the judicial system to prevent people from being wrongly convicted.

#102 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2009-04-03 06:06 PM

But then he might discover that innocent people have actually been sent to death row, and some have even been executed, and that could cause his 'conservative' head to explode.

OCU

San--check it out on the Cleared vs. dropped.

There is very little difference acutally.


www.google.com

Imagine that. A Republican might get elected in a district with over 70,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats!


#86 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue


Keep telling yourself that when the district went for Obama.

You know all those independents and repubs crossing over to vote....

FUCK all of you sniveling whiners.

A 'Do Over'?

Fat chance. Deal with it.

Right is right, and fair is fair. Time for a new election, just as there should be one in Minn. They're both contaminated.

#10 | Posted by American1st at 2009-04-03 07:19 AM | Reply | Flag:


This is so funny coming from the same crowd that chanted 'Sore-Loserman' when Al Gore wanted a simple recount of several counties in a the Presidential race.

Funny shit indeed.

Suck it up and wipe those tears.

This is so funny coming from the same crowd that chanted 'Sore-Loserman' when Al Gore wanted a simple recount of several counties in a the Presidential race.

Funny shit indeed.

Yes, when the one candidate wants to cherry pick the counties to recount (and the ones Gore wanted just happened to be democrat. What a coincidence!) yes, it is very funny.

If Gore had genuously called for a recount of the whole state, yes, I could see the hypocrisy.

You strawman fails.

"You strawman fails."

No strawman at all, dipshit. You mentioned me on a thread I hadn't posted on. Sorry you can't get me out of your mind.

You strawman fails. You mentioned me on a thread I hadn't posted on. Sorry you can't get me out of your mind. "

No strawman at all, dipshit.

???

My strawman comment was obviously directed to commonsense since I quoted him, not you.

Get over yourself, null. Not every post I put up is about you as much as you wish they were and as much as you wish I can't get you out of my mind.

What an egomaniac! sheesh!

"You strawman fails."

No strawman at all, dipshit. You mentioned me on a thread I hadn't posted on. Sorry you can't get me out of your mind.

#110 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-04-03 11:20 PM |


This is so funny coming from the same crowd that chanted 'Sore-Loserman' when Al Gore wanted a simple recount of several counties in a the Presidential race.

Funny shit indeed.

Yes, when the one candidate wants to cherry pick the counties to recount (and the ones Gore wanted just happened to be democrat. What a coincidence!) yes, it is very funny.

If Gore had genuously called for a recount of the whole state, yes, I could see the hypocrisy.

You strawman fails.

#108 | Posted by goatman at 2009-04-03 10:46 PM


The null song:

You're so vain
You probably think post 108 is about you
You're so vain . . . .

LOL

#112 = FF

#113 = Suck Up Flag.

I have a feeling this could head to the Supreme Court. Whether or not you think he should have lost the election, the fact is dip in the polls or not he was still an incumbent which has it's own momentum on election day. The fact is that nobody with more than an IQ over 30 thinks the charges had little or no impact on the election.

The election was tainted. He could very well challenge the validity of the election and claim "election tampering" since the withheld information wasn't just kept from him, but it was also kept from the VOTERS. It doesn't matter who did the tampering, or why. What matters is that it WAS tampered with and may have very well cost him the election.

I don't know whether he would win or not... but I think he has a case.

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