Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, March 25, 2009

In a result much lower than other polls, Zogby has President Obama's job approval dropping to 50 percent over the lack of improvement with the crippled economy. Pollster John Zogby said his poll out today will show Americans split on the president's performance. He said the score factors out to "about 50-50."

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Time for a new Charm Offensive, eh?

But, but, but...-The Left


One poll out of how many?

But I guess one has to grasp at whatever straws there are....

Andrew Sullivan said...
Sincerely,
Starvis, Aroma, Americunty, et al

The right wing media is all over this like flies on shit---but---where is the poll?

Here's one from a real pollster. Obama is polling better than Clinton or Bush during their first March.

www.gallup.com

Here's one from a real pollster. Obama is polling better than Clinton or Bush during their first March.


www.gallup.com

#5 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Do you have that one from March 16th in your I.E. Favorites list?

Here's one from a real pollster. Obama is polling better than Clinton or Bush during their first March.

www.gallup.com

#5 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Updated to March 22...

www.gallup.com

Who cares whether it's 50 or 55, or whether it's better than Clinton's was 17 years ago. As long as it's under the posted speed limit on interstate highways, his political capital is being drained. Plus, it'll be good just to get away from all the libbies' links about "look! America agrees with me! We all love him!"

Obama Approval Rating Goes UP: CBS News Poll

Despite a wounded economy and public furor aimed at Wall Street, a new CBS poll finds President Obama's approval rating has actually gone up.

Sixty-four percent of Americans say they favor the job that Obama is doing right now, a modest increase of two points since CBS's poll earlier this month. More notably, ratings for the president's handling of the overall economy jumped five points, from 56 percent to 61 percent.

www.huffingtonpost.com

Who cares whether it's 50 or 55, or whether it's better than Clinton's was 17 years ago. As long as it's under the posted speed limit on interstate highways, his political capital is being drained. Plus, it'll be good just to get away from all the libbies' links about "look! America agrees with me! We all love him!"

#8 | Posted by rightisright

For whatever its worth, the average of all the other polls (from RCP) is 61% favorable, 30% unfavorable. The Zogy poll is an obvious outlyer.

Zogby and Rasmussen are in the tank with Rush. -The Left

Whatever. These poll threads are like the ones for global warming, where everyone posts links to say this was the fifth warmest, or was it the eighteenth?

It's all stupid. Obama won the election and has a big mandate. He'll railroad through what he wants, and, IMO, his approval ratings will collapse in a few months' time. Maybe not though. But it still won't matter until a big bunch of Dumbos are up for re-election in the House.

Whatever.

#12 | Posted by rightisright

What happened? You were so happy back in #8 when you thought a poll meant Obama's political capital was being drained.

how LOW can it go?

everybody limbo!

"a national poll will signal today as President Obama's job approval stumbles to about 50 percent over the lack of improvement with the crippled economy."

Assuming the poll is accurate, it only shows how absolutely stupid many people in this country are. Did they really think he'd ride into DC and the economy would magically become good again?
Damn americans are fickle.

"The honeymoon is over"

What honeymoon? You Obama Haters have been going since day one --- coincidentally the very same who assailed any criticism of Bush as "just hating"!


Ironic isn't it!

Why is it that we have to wait 50 years to judge Bush but you get to judge Obama by the minute?

63% approval according to most other polls though. I know.......wouldn't want to tell the entire story right?

Your Messiah is a false prophet and you cannot stand it.

Hope and change you can believe in.

SUCKERS

Zogby's track record:

2008 Presidential results: Call 3 states incorrectly. In Zogby's 11 state swing state poll, the last they conducted before the election Zogby was off by 5.4 points.

The average miss for all Presidential polls in those states was 2.4 points.

In June Zogby had Obama winning states such as Arkansas, Arizona and South Carolina, results which no other pollster saw at any point during the election cycle. He also had Obama polling within 5 points of John McCain in Oklahoma, which Obama would go on to lose by 31 points, and Tennessee, which he'd lose by 15.

In the 2006 Senate elections Zogby's average miss was 8.7 points; governor's 7.7 points and called 5 of 19 incorrectly.


www.fivethirtyeight.com

What's there to stop him? Olympia Snowe? Arlen Spector? Ha!

#19 | Posted by OohRah at 2009-03-24 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Right now, all it takes to stop Obama is one republican. One republican can stop all legislation under current congressional rules. They are doing their best obstructionis work as we speak. After 2010, Obama will have at least 60 Democrat Senators, and then your statement will be correct.

It did seem curious that Zogby's poll results were so different from several other polls. As it turns out, the Zogby poll is an "Interactive Survey".

For those not versed in "Zog-speak", an "Interactive Survey" is code for an online/internet poll (i.e., not a TRUE random sample). Simply put, these are the results of those who felt the urge to log in, agree to be part of Zogby surveys, and then actually send in a response when Zogby contacts them.

www.zogby.com
interactive.zogby.com


It's not a total loss tho' as it was quite entertaining to read the comments here from "the usual suspects" ;-)!


The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
-Isaac Asimov

So many people do understand that bailing out the likes of AIG and Goldman-Sachs is wrong.

Simply put, these are the results of those who felt the urge to log in, agree to be part of Zogby surveys, and then actually send in a response when Zogby contacts them.

Sort of as accurate as the Drudge Report Polls of the debates that had Mccain winning by 90% five minutes in?

One poll out of how many?


But I guess one has to grasp at whatever straws there are....

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2009-03


yeah and we can just archive this for the next poll that comes out the other way.
polls ARE fun though arent they????

and remember zogbys 'finest' hour in 2004
on the daily show he predicted that kerry would win.

OF COURSE this doesnt mean that I wont use this poll to our benefit...LOL

After 2010, Obama will have at least 60 Democrat Senators, and then your statement will be correct.

#21 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-03-25 03:28 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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7,000 at rally in ohio
6,000 out just for the levin book signing
smartgirlpolitics.org is a group of women organizing not only tea parties...( no Not THOSE kinds of tea parties)...and at those rallies will be voter registration going on to register people who have not been political UP TO NOW..

so mister bob...you might be right on, but it wont be without a real fight.

why did I post these...because obama has brought people together like never before and IM not talking about obamamanics.

Whatever Bush Lover.

You guy still sucks donkey dicks by the way.

You guy still sucks donkey dicks by the way.

#27 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-03-25 11:28 AM | Reply


yuck yuck...words jumbled together....saw something but have no proof...lonely and bored at library...

HEY...more jumbled words....librarians breasts...random thoughts....

-BL2

"no Not THOSE kinds of tea parties"

That's the after-tea party tea party.

Sorry you didn't get an invite.

hey money and 101

thanks for the comments.

that would be many..

wow...I just cant type anything correctly.
both of you are so right.
wow. thanks again

You guy still sucks donkey dicks by the way.

#27 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009


sorry but I just have to oomment even as incompetent as I am

I just didnt know how to reply to this sort of intelligent and hard hitting comments. it just threw me off my game a little knowing what a real high powered intellengencia I was dealing with here.

sorry that I just cant compete at this high level.

why did I post these...because obama has brought people together like never before and IM not talking about obamamanics.

#26 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-03-25 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag


I hope they finally figure out that Chuck Norris was right, and elect to start their own country since they obviously don't like this one very much. No Obamaniacs in Chuck Norrisland. Everything they want is in Chuck Norrisland. I don't see the problem.

#24 | Posted by northguy3

Oh stop!!

Let the pubs have their little moment of joy. They have so few.

Your Messiah is a false prophet and you cannot stand it.

Hope and change you can believe in.

SUCKERS

#18 | Posted by chickenrancher

RELIGIONIST!!! POULTRYPORKER!!

who the fuck cares what the people think. they were stupid enough to elect BO, now they'll just have to see how bad that mistake actually was. midterms are gonna be a blood bath.

funny, i was laughed at when i said that right after the election, but the laughter has died down in favor of some nervous looks amongst our more liberal friends.

hope they finally figure out that Chuck Norris was right, and elect to start their own country since they obviously don't like this one very much. No Obamaniacs in Chuck Norrisland. Everything they want is in Chuck Norrisland. I don't see the problem.

#33 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009


well I dont know...would he have to be the first president?

and one more time look at how obama has turned things around
it wasnt that long ago that your side was given this sort of choice in the matter

ah yes..the more things change, the more they stay the same.

funny, i was laughed at when i said that right after the election, but the laughter has died down in favor of some nervous looks amongst our more liberal friends.

#36 | Posted by somoco at


I agree of course but there should no underestimating the obama cultists and groups like acorn who..for instance use money from soros groups to take buses into places like the aig houses and influence those voters who are still enamoured with obama because he is black, talks REAL PURTY>.(with a teleprompter at least)...and all that
so we still have to get out and work on it.
especailly when we have to beat both dems AND the media.

well I dont know...would he have to be the first president?

#37 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-03-25 11:53 AM | Reply | Flag

How about Huckabee--or Schwartzenegger--or Palin--or McCain.

Our side always bitched about the man--not the country. Your side is genuinely unhappy with America---you should start another country that reflects your goals. No welfare--there will always be welfare in this country. Low taxes on the rich--there will always be high taxes on the rich here--and on and on and on. Rightists simply hate everything about this country. It will never change. Face facts--take responsibility--and start your own county--57 million and Chuck Norris will give you an excellent start, and liberals and conservatives will both be much happier in the long run.

who the fuck cares what the people think. they were stupid enough to elect BO,

#36 | Posted by somoco

And when the gravy train doesn't come in...nobody...but nobody, will turn on him faster .

it ain't fair i mean he's black did you expect him to preform as well as the past potus
jasman

no bob..I completely disagree with post 39

what you are seeing is just the opposite.
we love this country enough to know that obama is turning it into either france or venezula....which one?? depends on how long we have double didget inflation I guess or how many more things obama puts under government control.
this backlash is from the democrats doing EXACTLY what many predicted

they are overreaching and it will hurt them.

double didget inflation I


used as a predicition....I know its not that high...YET>

Yeah, but you love George Bush so chances are that you are dead wrong?

Why is that so hard to understand?

Oh yeah, you love George Bush.

theres always a chance that any of us are wrong...
soooooooooooooooooo????????

Manypaths,
You won't have George Bush to kick around on the next go 'round. AFKABL is right, we're headed for double digit inflation ala Jimmy Carter. The treasury is just printing money at this point.

How you can do this, and have interest rates on long term loans sooo lowww makes me think the banks are headed for another big headache, and nationalization.

BO's plan is working perfectly. Americans won't stand for it.

Americans won't stand for it.


massive protests planned for next month on the 15th

as well as some there today when obama goes to capitol hill..........of course you might not know any of that if you only listen to npr or watch the big three or cnn.

and one more thing

look at the significant number of NON LIBERAL posters we now have here on our little site.
I dont know the exact figures but as other long time rightwing contributors will tell you

that number is way up..or at least it seems to .

I am not kicking around George Bush.

But I will always kick around those who supported Bush and Love him like BL2.

Facts have proven that these people are idiots and are wrong most of the time.

If that includes you then sorry but that problem is yours, not mine.

The verdict is in. Bush supporters are wrong. They should learn to shut up. They don't do anyone a damn bit of good.

I didn't like Bush particularly. I am a fiscal conservative, and he was anything but. I still am happy he was president during 9/11, and that we never had Gore or Kerry as POTUS.

Gore is imbalanced, and I cannot believe - after listening to Kerry after Vietnam - that he was who the Dems even ran. WE'll never know what the world would have looked like if either of those two had been president - and dare I say that is a good thing.

None of this matters though, Dems are still going to get their heads handed to them at the midterms.

THE ZOGBY POLL...Is an arm of the Republican PR machine, has been for a long long time...When one Poll is 12 to 15 points different as Zogby is from all other Polls, only the Fox (REPUBLICAN) News clowns would give it much attention!!!!!!

yeah sure celisary

were you like in the first grade or so when in 2004 zogby was on the daily show and predicted a win for kerry........

I guess he had come around to our side since then?

Celisary, Zogby is such a tool for the right. That's why it was less then 2 points off on each of its state-by-state predictions in the 08 elections.

Get a grip dude.

drip...drip

"Some polls show Obama coasting with a 65 percent job approval"

Yes, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, DailyKOS, Drudge Retort.

Dems are still going to get their heads handed to them at the midterms.

By whom? The GOP is already eating themselves.

See you in 2010.

I really don't give a fuck about polls and I voted for McCain. But Barack Hussein Obama is such an incompetent clown, I wish (omg I'm gonna say it) Hillary was President.

were you like in the first grade ...
#52 | Posted by afkabl2


I am betting heavily medicated in the east wing.

"THE ZOGBY POLL...Is an arm of the Republican PR machine, has been for a long long time..."

Didn't you tell us back when that Rasmussen was the right wing PR machine? C'mon now, Celery, they can't ALL be right wing machines.

that medicine for ADS can be a bitch

jest

some people see the rightwing boogie man in their sleep.
and all the while paying no attention to that 8:45 call from rhom to cnn and moveon.org

I really don't give a fuck about polls and I voted for McCain. But Barack Hussein Obama is such an incompetent clown, I wish (omg I'm gonna say it) Hillary was President.

#57 | POSTED BY JUSTANOVERSIGHT AT 2009-03-25 01:29 PM | REPLY

Ditto. Was pulling for her in the primaries, as ill as that made me feel.

Sore losers. Enjoy your time bitching.


Sore losers. Enjoy your time bitching.

#63 | Posted by Manypaths at


ha ha ha

that shoe sure hurts sometimes when its on that other foot doesnt it?? lol

"Time for a new Charm Offensive, eh?"
#1 | Posted by American1st

You know it. Time for another verbal blowjob from the harpies on The View.

"THE ZOGBY POLL...Is an arm of the Republican PR machine, has been for a long long time..."

Right & the "community organizer" in my neighborhood who accosted me coming out of the library trying to make sure I was registered to vote for "change" (sound familiar) in the "most important election of the last 100 years" REALLY gave a shit about my voting preparedness.

Until he saw my McCain sticker & walked away midsentence.....

Wow.

Almost three months into Obama's Presidency, and you're ready to hang it up.

What do you fools suggest?

8 more years of Dubya?

Zogby's numbers have been fishy for a while. This one's likely an Internet poll where the people polled volunteered to be asked. That's the most likely reason Obama's approval is 15 percent lower than it is in other current polls.

What a meaningless poll. I hope those of you with functioning brains have bothered to look at how the poll was conducted.

#68 | Posted by rcade at 2009-03-25 02:30 PM
#69 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-03-25 02:33 PM

Yep, see:
#22 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2009-03-25 06:50 AM |

Sore losers. Enjoy your time bitching.


#63 | Posted by Manypaths at


ha ha ha


that shoe sure hurts sometimes when its on that other foot doesnt it?? lol

#64 | Posted by afkabl2

You will have to tell us. My shoes fit great these days!

When our new President was sworn in, I was of the opinion that he should be given a chance to perform. So far, his performance leaves a lot to be desired. His poll numbers will continue to decline if he continues in the path of socialism. Our country is a great country because of capitalism. Yes, we have some fixing to do. We have had them since 1776. And we have always fixed them. But our Constitution was given to us by intelligent men. It has always been protected by intelligent men, and our posterity demands that this generation continues to protect same for them, as it's defenders protected it for us. I follow the Constitution, not men. Ours is a Nation of laws, not men. If something is outside our Constitution, then it may be time for the Courts to intervene. We may be in the brink of an era of bailouts via Injuctions, Mandamuses, and Declaratory Judgements.

zogby of the exit polls of past?

BWAH!

www.rasmussenreports.com

latest rasmussen.

$10 says that's one of Zogby's internet polls, which is as scientific as rock-paper-scissors. Please read Nate Silver's story on Zogby's polling history.

that medicine for ADS can be a bitch
#60 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-03-25 01:40 PM

The only medicine I know for ADS is to turn the page or click the "back" link.
--Sam--

BWAH!

#73 | Posted by nanc

I can only imagine the stench that you produce when making that sound.

'socialism'

Ding! Moron sighted!

What a meaningless poll. I hope those of you with functioning brains have bothered to look at how the poll was conducted.

#69 | Posted by moder

Popularity Polls - do you think obama is the not biggest moron as president? Yes, errr no, ah whatever


no bob..I completely disagree with post 39

what you are seeing is just the opposite.
we love this country enough to know that obama is turning it into either france or venezula....which one??

No, you don't love this country. You hate everything about this country. You hate the majority of its citizens, and the majority of its laws. You hate gays, and their fight for equality. You hate abortion rights for women. You hate welfare rights for the poor. You applaud when Habeous Corpus is taken away. Applaud when torture is approved by Cheney. See no harm in outing CIA agents, and defend the action. You applaud when the second amendment is mangled beyond recognition. You applaud when Bush sells America to the Chinese--then conveniently forget and assign all the debt to Obama. You seem to hate every aspect, every foundation, that America holds sacred.


depends on how long we have double didget inflation I guess or how many more things obama puts under government control.

We don't have double digit inflation. More hopes for the future for the country you "love"?

this backlash is from the democrats doing EXACTLY what many predicted

There is no backlesh. You are delusional. The people against Obamna now have always been against Obama, and nothing he could have done--including shitting a giant gold egg to bail us out--would have been satisfactory to them. The backlash you see is in your imagination. Obama is doing exactly what was done when they nationalized the Savings and Loans. Nationalize them, fix them up--and sell them back to the private sector.

they are overreaching and it will hurt them.

Your judgement has consistantly been in error. It is in error now.

#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-03-25 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag

Yeeeeeeeeeay! - Right wingers

NEWS FLASH

The latest Beachbuzz Obama Approval Poll is now in.

that shoe sure hurts sometimes when its on that other foot doesnt it?? lol


#64 | Posted by afkabl2


You will have to tell us. My shoes fit great these days!

#71 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-03


all right

you got it the way I intended it

good for you...theres one.

Your judgement has consistantly been in error. It is in error now.


#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-03-25 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag


you are simply incorrect on every post concerning me that you wrote
but THANKS for writing a response and not being like so many others who arent capable of writing one....
I take back at least half of what I have said about you in the past....unless you answer this with some bullshit that you just cant get past...

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