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Tuesday, March 10, 2009

A gunman went on a shooting spree in two south Alabama towns Tuesday, killing nine people before he shot himself at a metals plant north of Geneva, Ala.. Police are investigating at least four separate shootings, all believed to be done by one gunman.

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he had to do himself in because he was about to run out of fingers to count the casualties...

Alabama Man! He's quick, he's strong, he's happ'nin'

He beat the wife and sleeps it off. Alabama Man!

wow - this must have happened while I was out.

I'll catch the 6:00 p.m. news and see what happened.

Every day it's more carnage -- the shooting of a pastor in some church the other day, now this.

Is the world going nuts or what?

I just finished driving thru the area on my way back from Florida. There were about 20 cop cars in Samson and they closed off the main street diverting traffic all around while the FBI, Sheriffs, State and Local police continued their investigation. It sounds like it was a 2 parter. A shooting in Samson and 1 in Geneva, about 10 miles up the road.

Ppl calling the radio shows are all in the same mindset, this was a first but not the last thanx to this wonderful president and his policies for change.

It's really sick to know all the libs take pleasure in this sadness and dismiss any blame or responsibility for what is the beginning of an ugly time in America.

You wanted change you can believe in?, I drove by the police station and saw the people amassing there and crying because of their lost loved ones. One was a mother and her son out shopping, well now I can say I believe.

Oh yea...why did this happen? A trooper told me the guy had just been laid off and lost his job.

Maybe a couple 4 or 5 more of these shootings will wake ppl up. What am I thinking?!!! That'll never happen.

With an entire generation being weaned on first person shooter video games, I expect such rampages will become more and more frequent in the future.

Cheers

What a waste..

The only redeeming factor is that the shooter killed himself.


#5 | Posted by observer27 at 2009-03-10 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag moron

A real intelligent poster here in his own right.

Seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction to losing your job. Observer is right, Obama could have prevented this...

Ppl calling the radio shows are all in the same mindset, this was a first but not the last thanx to this wonderful president and his policies for change. It's really sick to know all the libs take pleasure in this sadness and dismiss any blame or responsibility for what is the beginning of an ugly time in America.

You make it sound like nobody ever went on a shooting spree before Obama was elected. As far as I know, there isn't a liberal/conservative divide on the issue of shooting a bunch of innocent people to death. Both sides are against it.

You make it sound like nobody ever went on a shooting spree before Obama was elected. As far as I know, there isn't a liberal/conservative divide on the issue of shooting a bunch of innocent people to death. Both sides are against it.

#11 | Posted by rcade

Obviously you don't understand anything at all. Once you are President for 7 weeks you are responsible for every bad thing that is happening, has happened, or will happen - unless you're George Bush, of course.

observer27, STFU.

You make it sound like nobody ever went on a shooting spree before Obama was elected.

This place also full of idiots who think Texas is the only state that has crime and prejudice, too. When will people every learn shit is everywhere geographically, politically, demographically, ethnically, etc.

"As far as I know, there isn't a liberal/conservative divide on the issue of shooting a bunch of innocent people to death. Both sides are against it."

There isn't, but some elements of the left always use them as rallying cries for more gun control.

Not lunatic control, gun control.

c'mon grendal - I am positive it was heavy metal music that caused this not some modern atari game.

still pretty sad though peeps need to do something "epic" before offing themselves.

just off yourself if you want to end it, don't go involving other innocents.

My buddy drives trains and has hit a couple of suiciders - another fooked up way to do youself in - involving others and creating nightmares for the survivors and others involved.

This place also full of idiots who think Texas is the only state that has crime and prejudice, too.

Yeah? Who? Let's see some quotes/links, cuz I don't recall any poster saying that. Maybe they said Texas sucks, but they never said it was the only place bad stuff happens.

You're full of shit, goatman.

"Yeah? Who? Let's see some quotes/links, cuz I don't recall any poster saying that."

Yeah, but literal-minded Goatman might not have meant that literally. Sometimes you need to take him literally and sometimes not. It's up to him.

I hope that cleared that up.

Yeah? Who?

Do I look like hans? If you want to pretend that isn't the prevailing attitude on the DR, I'll not argue. You are entittled to your version of reality.

my li'l troll. How many times tonight is this, nully? LOL

Love you too, honey.

People, people, if I told you once I've told you a thousand times: If you're gonna do a murder-suicide, pleas do us a favor and do the suicide first. Suicide is an honorable thing, millions of Japanese can't be wrong. Murder-suicide on the other hand is a horrible thing. So if you want to be a hero, just skip the murder part and go straight to the suicide.

Observer27 has got to be a troll. Even in the south, there are not people this stupid.

Is the world going nuts or what?

#4 | Posted by CalifChris at 2009-03-10 09:57 PM


Nothing new under the sun.

www.teacheroz.com

MoneyWar-A real intelligent poster here in his own right.

You and your people think mass murder is humorous...and you have the audacity and misguided notion to mock my post.

SCUM all of you.

I'll leave you to rejoice in the blood that has been shed, I feel quite dirty even being in the same forum as you sick fucks.

You and your people think mass murder is humorous...and you have the audacity and misguided notion to mock my post.

SCUM all of you.

I'll leave you to rejoice in the blood that has been shed, I feel quite dirty even being in the same forum as you sick fucks.

#24 | Posted by observer27

No one here thinks mass murder is humorous. We do, however, think blaming it on Obama is, well, kinda nutzo.

We're not all cracking jokes, Observer27. It's a terrible tragedy and I'm sure driving through the area today made it hit home for you. I've driven the Florida panhandle many times myself.

#24 | Posted by observer27 at 2009-03-10 10:57 PM | Reply | Flag

Thanks again, for just proving my original post.

"No one here thinks mass murder is humorous. We do, however, think blaming it on Obama is, well, kinda nutzo."

So is blaming it on video games. I played shoot-em-up video games when I was a kid and watched all kinds of horror movies and I have no intention of going out and murdering people.

you peeps remember how violent the world was before ? (~100 to 200 years ago for the USA and further back in the past for the rest of the world). No comparsion to our current civilized world. It is better - you just hear about it all quicker. The news in the old daze was much slower and a whole lot more incomplete...

GTG. I'll leave you to reflect on these wise words:

www.youtube.com

So is blaming it on video games. I played shoot-em-up video games when I was a kid and watched all kinds of horror movies and I have no intention of going out and murdering people.

First person shooter are different then blaming acts of violence on music or even movies. These latter forms of entertainment are fleeting and often tangentially related to violent action and are often not "consumed" by young audiences to the extent and degree of video games.

First person shooter games are very different. The player takes on a role of a gunman in hundreds of different games which are all variations of the same thing--going through a maze and killing people. The player may take on the persona of terrorist, a soldier, an assassin. He chooses his weapons carefully and dispassionately and then methodically stalks his prey, shoots and kills spraying blood and gore everywhere.

Kids from six to 25 play these games hours and hours every day and will be doing it for years.

I have no doubt that most kids will not turn into psychopathic murderers. It only takes a few, however, whose silicon chip is switched to overload to be inclined to act out the fantasy scenario they have played in their living rooms a thousand times.

I am not calling for a ban of such games. I am just making a comment. I hope I am wrong.

All I can think of are these malleable young minds, playing these games hours and weeks on end and the
the old saying among computer programmers, "garbage in equal garbage out."

When we feed our kids a steady diet of junkfood we should not be surprised they turn out fat. When we feed their minds a steady diet of junk entertainment, we shouldn't be surprised at the results either.

Cheers

So is blaming it on video games. I played shoot-em-up video games when I was a kid and watched all kinds of horror movies and I have no intention of going out and murdering people.

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Neither do I but it still increases aggression. I think it's the realism in the media that's really the culprit.

www.apa.org

"Kids from six to 25 play these games hours and hours every day and will be doing it for years. I have no doubt that most kids will not turn into psychopathic murderers."

Actually, you've just made the defense's case.

If millions watch, but only a few become murderous, isn't it the fault of the few?!?

If it were really the fault of the game, millions would be psychopathic killers.

Could first person shooting games be originated by the US government? this would be to ensure a constant supply of cannon fodder for future campaigns to secure vital resources to ensure the US's long term sustainabilty? I can research a link that may provide additional insite to that very notion if you want...Grendal - you do make a valid point in the reality based simulation aspects of computer training virtues though...

too bad this simulation technology wasn't geared more towards porn -that could solve some of the violent side effects perhaps.

11/3/08

Children and teenagers who play violent video games show increased physical aggression months afterward, according to new research that adds another layer of evidence to the continuing debate over the video-game habits of the youngest generation.

www.washingtonpost.com

Now, along with video games, add TV and movie violence.

Then add the internet with homemade violent videos. Posting school fights online, mean practical jokes, etc. The impersonal nature of blogs brings out more aggression.

All this creates less and less empathy.

If millions watch, but only a few become murderous, isn't it the fault of the few?!?


If it were really the fault of the game, millions would be psychopathic killers.

I think that these few kids would not have ordinarily turned to violence. These games will inspire them to do so.

In a similar way, millions of people have guns in their homes. These guns do not turn millions of people into killers.

However, when the pressures of life forces people to crack, a gun that is handy is not a good thing.

In a similar way millions of kids will not be turned into killing zombies, but when some do crack, the brain has been wired for an empowering and violent response to a world that seems out to get them.

I will be the first to admit this is all conjecture, but in my opinion it is reasonable conjecture.

Cheers

Pirate,

That study you linked to is interesting. Thanks.

Cheers

"I think that these few kids would not have ordinarily turned to violence. These games will inspire them to do so."

Or music would have, and Judas Priest would get the blame.

Or literature would have, and Salinger would get the blame.

Same song, next verse.

From the same article:

Extreme forms of violence, Anderson said, "almost always occur when there is a convergence of multiple risk factors."

A U.S. surgeon general report in 2001 identified an array of those risk factors, including gang involvement, antisocial parents and peers, substance abuse, poverty and media violence. Males are more at risk.

Or music would have, and Judas Priest would get the blame.


Or literature would have, and Salinger would get the blame.


Same song, next verse.

Read the first two paragraphs of one of my previous posts-- #31. I think I make a good case for them being different.

If you disagree, then you disagree. I can live with that.

Cheers

Same song, next verse

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So the arts are not inspirational?

Obama was elected. As far as I know, there isn't a liberal/conservative divide on the issue of shooting a bunch of innocent people to death. Both sides are against it.

True, but this is the gun ban stimulus.

Exploitation of something bad to push this piece of shit's agenda.

Listen.

Watch.

ever heard of Jak the ripper ?

guns do not kill, knives and car antennae do!

"So the arts are not inspirational?"

Of course they are. But it's the fault of the murderers, not the authors. If a billion see Othello, but only one murders his girlfriend, why is it Shakespeare's fault?


AuntieSocial he had to do himself in because he was about to run out of fingers to count the casualties...


johnny_hotsauce Alabama Man! He's quick, he's strong, he's happ'nin'


He beat the wife and sleeps it off. Alabama Man!


You really are some sick fucks...this is why I hate all of you. You represent all that is disgusting and evil. No one can represent the term SCUM better than a Lib.


When your family gets killed, your wife and son get murdered I'd like to see how much your laughing then.


Absolute SCUM. All of you.

#8 | Posted by observer27 at 2009-03-10 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
eIDIOTALERT

"Gunman Kills 9 in Alabama." Pay attention now. All together: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

True, but this is the gun ban stimulus.


Exploitation of something bad to push this piece of shit's agenda.


Listen.


Watch.

#43 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao at 2009-03-10 11:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Can you please post the plan for this gun ban stimulus Jaques? Please.

"I think I make a good case for them being different."

Not really.

It's more a case of different generations. Every time there is a senseless act, folks try to make sense of it. As Chris Rock once said, "whatever happened to crazy?" First it was cave drawings. Then telling stories. Then literature. Then music. Now video games. Next...internet websites. After that...who knows?

Can you please post the plan for this gun ban stimulus Jaques?

No.

That's why implored you to "listen" and watch", dipshit.

The event is the stimulus for the proposed legislation.

Listen.

Watch.

If a billion see Othello, but only one murders his girlfriend, why is it Shakespeare's fault?

----

I'm talking about the overall environment. We are a product of our environment. People are ultimately responsible for their actions but our violent culture certainly isn't helping.

On 20/20, the New York cunt in the red pant suit is, as we speak, doing her best to make sense of the behavior exhibited by these strange people with diluted english accents and beards.

What is it with these archaic people and their adherence to guns and voting against their own economic interests?

Tsk Tsk.

Its time for a national dialogue.

If a billion see Othello, but only one murders his girlfriend, why is it Shakespeare's fault?

#45 | Posted by Danforth
* * * *

Well, because he wrote it into the play. Act 5, Scene 2.

They're called tragedies, you know.

you call me a dipshit, we've figured out who the dipshit is. check out mirror sometime.

please post a link to your claim jaques

"People are ultimately responsible for their actions but our violent culture certainly isn't helping."

I'm sure that's what parents said in Elizabethan times as well.

Drat thou knave Shakespeare!

"They're called tragedies, you know.'

Yes...yes, I know.

But again, if it's the culture's fault, why aren't there a billion murderers?

you call me a dipshit

And rightly so.

please post a link to your claim jaques

One can't post a link to legislation and/or discourse born of an event a mere hours old.

Run along now.


But again, if it's the culture's fault, why aren't there a billion murderers?

Because there are varying degrees to which people, as individuals, are able to seperate the fodder of popular culture violence from reality.

For example, the foremen of media and popular culture decided that an unqualified, black, political neophyte, "community organizing", street agitating piece of shit human being should be President because he had a compelling story that paralleled the the left-wing narrative.

They ensured his election.

Now the slaves to that culture are left wondering, "What the fuck did I just do?"

Point being, the culture drives individual behavior to a large degree. And that culture is now driving deplorably stupid and destructive behavior---be it electing a stupid little punk leftist bitch like Obama, or murdering 9 people on a violence-desensitized bout of anti-social behavior.

Welcome to Dumbfuck America 2009.

And apologize to your children.

I hope none of the dead were democrats.

I hope none of the dead were democrats.

Yeah, me, too. They're fun to watch.

With an entire generation being weaned on first person shooter video games, I expect such rampages will become more and more frequent in the future.

I wasn't aware of any weaning. Have you played a PS3 lately? The teat is without a doubt still in the mouth.

"I expect such rampages will become more and more frequent in the future."

Two generations ago, it was the Three Stooges, and two fingers in the eyes. Doink!

More liberal-influenced violence fallout...ala Hollyweird....movie to follow.

Gunman Kills 9 in Alabama." Pay attention now. All together: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Of course they are. But it's the fault of the murderers, not the authors. If a billion see Othello, but only one murders his girlfriend, why is it Shakespeare's fault?

Wow, Herm.

For once you managed to not be a hypocrite by quoting someone who isn't a "right tighty". Good for you.

Can you please post the plan for this gun ban stimulus Jaques? Please.

All you have to do is wait.

Clinton used a catalytic event to pass all kinds of stuff in the 90's. George Bush did the same in the early 2000's. Barack Obama will be no different.

please post a link to your claim jaques

I'm not Jaques, but I'll post something to back him up. Introduced Jan 2009. Now sits in committee.

www.govtrack.us

Only nine?

Gunman kills 10 at German school
news.bbc.co.uk

And he got away.

Oh, I almost forgot.

~The beatings will continue until morale improves.


When will people every learn shit is everywhere geographically, politically, demographically, ethnically, etc.

#14 | Posted by goatman


I suppose I am double trouble because I am as proud as a puppy with two peters to be a resident of both Alabama and Texas. If I could buy a house in Florida, I could have a 'craziness trifecta'.

BTW, I think the death toll is 12 now.

goat, since I am traveling to Alabama for spring break, and since I already used my car antennea to ward off aliens last week, could I borrow a car antennea from you? Preferably an unused one.

I don't understand why these losers need to shoot other people before they kill themselves.

"Gunman kills 10 at German school"

Wait, I don't get it..... They have German schools in Texas?



(Goatman, that was a joke, you may untwist your panties now)

goat, since I am traveling to Alabama for spring break, and since I already used my car antennea to ward off aliens last week, could I borrow a car antennea from you? Preferably an unused one.

Actually, mine is embedded in the windshield. But a little know fact is that these can be used as defensive weapons against the offensive whip type antennae if it is a small enough windshield.

Wait, I don't get it..... They have German schools in Texas

Actually there is a large German influence in S Central Texas. The town names reflect this. There are lots of German restaurants and festivals. The blue eyed Mexicans you see near the border are obviously descendants of the old German colonies. Where do you think the Mexican narcocorrida music got their accordians and tubas for that oompah sound?

Interesting mix of cultures.

That's true.

Meskin music is just German music on stolen instruments.

I don't understand why these losers need to shoot other people before they kill themselves.

I have often wondered that myself.

I always assumed it was blinding and impulsive rage/anger/insanity followed by the sobering reality and comprehension of what he or she had just done.

For others, especially within family murder suicides, I think the person wishes to end his or her life, but can't bear the thought of loved ones living their lives without them. They either can't deal with the guilt of putting loved ones through emotional pain or the thought of loved ones moving on to be happy without them.

Such murder suicides are the brutal results of the odd marriage of extreme narcissism and self-loathing.


Ah, Jak thinks "culture" caused this guy to murder nine human beings. Well, it sure couldn't have been his evil nature or personal responsibility.

When it's convenient to argue like the "Leftist" you called a bitch last week, some people go with convenience.

I'm sure that's cultural. Now, where exactly was it that you're from?

In my humble opinion, people like this murder for the simple reason they want to hurt.

GRENDEL is right, they think they are entitled to it out of a sense of profound egocentricity. They haven't gotten what they think is their due in life, and want someone to pay for that.

It's extreme behavior but it's not necessarily crazy at all. It's just wholly selfish. Evil. The suicide that often follows is just one final "fuck you".

Some people may imagine they'll float above various funerals after their own deaths and get further personal satisfaction. Now, this part IS crazy.

Ah, Jak thinks "culture" caused this guy to murder nine human beings.

No, you querulous little prick, I don't.

I said culture has an impact, to a degree, on personal behaviors---which is a fairly non-controversial assertion.

Now go back to doing whatever it is your bored, miserable ass does all day.

Not lunatic control, gun control.

How about gun control for lunatics? The guy who shot the pastor was mentally unstable as well.

Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles, Ueber alles in der Welt.

Now go back to doing whatever it is your bored, miserable ass does all day.

#76 | Posted by Jak_Se_Mao

Boy, o boy, Jak is just a whole bag of mindless fun. Hey chuckles, tell us a joke.

Wasn't there a poster on here a few weeks back saying "Typical URBAN AMERICAN" regarding a black man who killed his wife and children?

I guess this "RURAL AMERICAN" (yes, that's code for whitey) was simply trying to prove that he can do it better.

Exploitation of something bad to push this piece of shit's agenda.
Listen.
Watch.


You are absolutely right. Right this very minute somewhere someone is drafting something referencing recent events, blah, blah, making the case to take your guns away. No thought will be given to the families, the victims, the community, only the agenda. This is Alabama! These folks will most likely see it for what it is, a nut on a rampage, not a reason to hate the gun that without the nut, would be in a dresser somewhere NOT killing people.

But fear not, there's some big city, northeastern, "educated", liberal activist or politician somewhere who will make sure the great unwashed in this small town knows what's best for them.

What a horrible, horrible tragedy. I will be praying for these people & this community. I hope they see the outpouring of love and support that we were fortunate enough to receive in the wake of the VA Tech shootings here in Virginia.

I'm with MURPHY, at least he shot himself & saved everyone time & money & putting the victims through what I'm sure is the sad story of his life & how he's a victim too & 8 years of ignoring mental health issues, blah, blah, just like when the nut job shot everyone at Tech. Boo-fucking-hoo! It won't bring their loved ones back now will it? I'll save my greif for REAL victims. Personally, I just don't have the time or the stomach to care about people's reasons when they do things like this. It is a moot point in the wake of mass murder.

To all you right wing zealot nut jobs: The 2nd ammendment was written to protect newly free citizens from British troops - NOT so that a drunken hill billy could use his AK-47 to kill students. There's also a 19th century law banning people from carrying wire cutters in their pockets - to stop them from land grabbing. Should we still enforce this? Laws and their applications MUST change with the times.

COMMONSENSE: USE SOME! Yes, guns don't kill all by themselves, it takes the nut pulling the trigger to do that. But this is the typical conservative argument: let us regulate ourselves - and it ALWAYS fails. Not everyone is as decent as I'm sure you are, or as I am.

#12

Oh, give me a fucking break, Sanantonio, Bush has been blamed for everything bad that happens since day one. I can't believe you even wrote that.

Oh, give me a fucking break, Sanantonio, Bush has been blamed for everything bad that happens since day one. I can't believe you even wrote that.

#84 | Posted by everlong

Yeah, right. The DR has just been inundated with conservatives and Republicans accepting responsibility for the actions of the Republican Congress and George W. Bush.

Oh wait, I'm wrong. They spent 7 3/4 years blaming everything on Clinton, and then started blaming Obama before he even took office.

Give me a break.

"Oh, give me a fucking break, Sanantonio, Bush has been blamed for everything bad that happens since day one. I can't believe you even wrote that."

Not by his supporters. How many times has some ass written that Bush kept us safe from terror attacks when the reality is that he is one of the few CIC's who presided over an attack on our soil? The people who are trying to pin more and more of the financial crisis on Obama are generally people who supported Bush.

Don't get me wrong, while he isn't the cause of it I think Porky Pig Obama is going to make the crisis worse and has already proven that he's a typical politician and that no real change is going to occur.

But it is amusing to see people hold him to one standard after having held Bush to another for eight years.

COMMONSENSE: USE SOME! Yes, guns don't kill all by themselves, it takes the nut pulling the trigger to do that. But this is the typical conservative argument: let us regulate ourselves - and it ALWAYS fails. Not everyone is as decent as I'm sure you are, or as I am.

#83 | Posted by freedom4all at 2009-03-11 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Use some? Regarding what, how you are talking about guns while I made no reference to guns at all? My post was about race, not guns.

I was pointing out how a poster a few weeks back said that the killer, in a very similar story, was a 'typical URBAN AMERICAN" for killing his family. I pointed out my fellow crackers can be just as crazy.

Nothing more.

To all you right wing zealot nut jobs: The 2nd ammendment was written to protect newly free citizens from British troops - NOT so that a drunken hill billy could use his AK-47 to kill students. There's also a 19th century law banning people from carrying wire cutters in their pockets - to stop them from land grabbing. Should we still enforce this? Laws and their applications MUST change with the times.

Do you understand the difference between a Law and an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America?

If you want the Amendment changed, work to change it. If it fails, it fails. If it passes, people will either have to abide by it or break the law.

I know which one I'll pick. I think we've got a pretty good handle on you, too.

Your analysis of the Amendment is slightly off from what the typical lefty tells us, especially since some of the founding fathers thought that Revolution or the thread of Revolution is a necessity to keep Government in check.

Welcome to the Retort.

Because of the gun violence in urban communities, many who live there have concluded that tighter controls on the availability of fire arms is necessary. I wonder if the increase in gun violence in rural and suburban communities will drive them to a similar conclusion?

An American Tale

Wingnuts under GWB screw up the economy sending the U.S. into financial tailspin. In response, come Election Day the majority votes a liberal as POTUS.

Having a liberal in the WH drives all the wingnuts crazy. They immediately hurry out and buy lots and lots of guns (egged on by a bunch of silly wingnut radio hosts telling them that the liberals are coming to take their guns away).

As the financial crisis deepens due to the failed wingnut economic policies, more and more wingnuts find themselves out of work.

Being wingnuts, while they espouse personal responsibilty for others, they refuse to accept any for their own personal financial troubles. Next thing you know, unemployed wingnut goes on a shooting spree with guns (which were recently purchased to prevent the liberals from taking them away).

What a waste..
The only redeeming factor is that the shooter killed himself.

#7 | POSTED BY MURPHY

Sadly he didn't do it BEFORE he killed others in cold blood.

The remedy?
Concealment permits for everyone qualified, then you'll see society become extremely polite. No, people won't be out in the streets killing each other, they're doing that now. Concealment permits put an end to unlawfulness.

You have to get a background check (this disqualifies felons and bad people)
You have to be fingerprinted (disqualifies felons and bad people)
Criminals won't do this ... good people do.

The media are using the news to push this "gun ban" so they can disarm the US populace. It is by design and is going as planned.

I forget who it was that said "those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't." Unreasonable? No.


"Concealment permits for everyone qualified"

Riiiiiiiiiiight. Just what you want in a declining economy.

Too bad the victims didn't have car antennas.


This fucker killed his mother and burned her house with her body in it.

You have to kill yourself after you do something like that.

from what i hear he had a list of 'people that have done me wrong'.


Well, lets play detective here.

- 28 years old living with Mom.
- Failed out of Cop school in 2 weeks.
- Lost job at scrap factory where he died.
- Just lost another Job at a food factory.

My guess is that the Family had an "Intervention" with Him and made him feel like a total Loser hoping that after pushing him down to the bottm, He would bounce back and finally go to college, training or military?

That intervention must have "back fired"

Because of the gun violence in urban communities, many who live there have concluded that tighter controls on the availability of fire arms is necessary. I wonder if the increase in gun violence in rural and suburban communities will drive them to a similar conclusion?

No, because both are wrong. Many of those urban communities where the crimes occur are already in cities that have strict gun control. Without practically yanking them from the hands of law-abiding citizens, how do you plan to get them out of the criminal's hands?

Gift Cards for guns?
Groceries for guns?
More restrictions on gun ownership?

None of these will stop a criminal from using a gun in a crime.

Why don't we try addressing the underlying problem that leads people to turn to crime?

Hopelessness, Poverty, Joblessness...

See, here's the thing I always wonder about. We spend billions, now trillions, of dollars every year "fighting poverty" and it hasn't done a damn bit of good.

Why? Because they don't really want to win. That's a voting block for the Democratic party. So they're offered the occasional table scraps to keep them loyal. All while reminding them that Republicans don't like black people. Which seems true most of the time.

Anyway. Why not take some of this stimulus money into the ghettos and hoods across the country. Build the factories for the solar and wind energy equipment. Build factories that make the equipment to retrofit homes to solar or wind energy.

The money is already there. The federal reserve has already created it out of thin air. What's the sense in not spending it where it will really do some good? If you're going to continue bankrupting the nation, at least try to make something good come of it.

My guess is that the Family had an "Intervention"

"Get a job or get out of my house"

Why not take some of this stimulus money into the ghettos and hoods across the country. Build the factories for the solar and wind energy equipment. Build factories that make the equipment to retrofit homes to solar or wind energy.

An outstanding idea! However, I don't believe that the political will exist to make that happen. In any event, most of those stimulus bucks being spent for manufactured goods, will go to China. Aaaaarrrggg.....

We spend billions, now trillions, of dollars every year "fighting poverty" and it hasn't done a damn bit of good.

Fighting poverty is such a broad topic that its tough to support or refute your claim. Suffice it to say that many poor people have made it out of poverty because of the fight but many poor people remain in poverty. It is my belief that "poverty" is a by product of capitalism. Here too, poverty is a relative term. Poverty by US standards is different than poverty by standards in other countries.

Where were all the gun toting rednecks that reside here in Alabama? It just goes to show that the population here is like everywhere else. Very few actually practice concealed carry. Just think if I person had been and stopped this fool...

The remedy?
Concealment permits for everyone qualified, then you'll see society become extremely polite. No, people won't be out in the streets killing each other, they're doing that now. Concealment permits put an end to unlawfulness.

You have to get a background check (this disqualifies felons and bad people)
You have to be fingerprinted (disqualifies felons and bad people)
Criminals won't do this ... good people do.

The media are using the news to push this "gun ban" so they can disarm the US populace. It is by design and is going as planned.

I forget who it was that said "those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't." Unreasonable? No.


#90 | Posted by Sluggo at 2009-03-11 08:13 PM | Reply | Flag:


Riiiiight.

The Wild West got it;s name because everyone was armed and 'oh so civilized'.

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