Any suggestions for fitting punishment?
I can't help but think letting them see footage of lives of each victim, and of the survivors kin describing their sadness of their destroyed lives, after several thousand videos, might actually make them regret this badge.

Then you drop them down a well?

Well, isn't that sweet. I think a nice 8'x 8' room for the next 50 years is a lovely reward. Perhaps they'll morph into Sufism...

execution

though they probably had nothing to do with it and want to be glorified even though they are pathetic nobodies

Bullshit.

vicarious martyrdom.

You still get 72 virgins, but they all look like your mom

vernon

learned muslims don't believe in the 72 virgins because thats not what the koran says.

thank you drive through

learned muslims don't believe in the 72 virgins because thats not what the koran says

Kliff, I believe you since you obviously know the Koran better than I, but where did this notion get started that virgins awaited martyrs? I've read this as being quote from Muslims on the MSM, so I do put some veracity in it.

Where did that notion start?

goat... the koran uses the word hur

which means spiritual companion for lack of any english word that really translates correctly.
the koran doesn't give them sex so this female virgin business is stupid.

they are there as servants.
typical heaven stuff being a place where man and woman get to sit in cabo wabo for the rest of their lives. blah blah

if there is a heaven its spiritual and metaphysical in nature and many of todays most esteemed muslim scholars will say this.

the number 72 comes from a hadith
attributed to tirmidi who also called these companions wives... probably more to do with the arabs love of wives and virgins

hadith are collections of lessons, sermons and stories from the Mohammed's life.

tirmidi is not considered to be official islamic tradition as it is not verifiable and was probably written well after the death of Mohammed.

though they probably had nothing to do with it and want to be glorified even though they are pathetic nobodies

#3 | Posted by klifferd

What leads you to believe they are innocent of these crimes?

put them in a cage with Shrub and Darth Cheney until hell freezes over.

#10 | Posted by nutcase

Worse yet, put them in a cage with Barney Franks.

They should be locked inside a bullet-proof glass enclosure. It would have a comfy lazy-boy chair that they'd be strapped to.
Passers by would insert $5, and a pneumatic hand would fly down from the top of the enclosure and slap the fuck out of them.

The proceeds would go towards bombs that we'd drop on muslims.

Hell, even if the 5 are lying, and they're totally innocent, I still think it's a great idea.

"What leads you to believe they are innocent of these crimes?"

i didn't say they are innocent

but i also wouldn't be suprised if they were just losers taking the twisted glory they are looking for.

Worse yet, put them in a cage with Barney Franks.
#11 | Posted by chickenrancher

Why should Franks get his 72 virgins?

"Why should Franks get his 72 virgins?"

72 virgin anus's

"The proceeds would go towards bombs that we'd drop on muslims."

maybe one day you'll get caught in friendly fire

very friendly

72 virgin anus's

#15 | Posted by klifferd

I believe that would be virgin "ani".

ff

Barry wants to let these 9/11 plotters go so they can attack again.

Pillory in times square.

I bet after a week in the stocks they will not be so glad they admitted responsibility.

However, are we even sure this document can be trusted? they might just be sick of sitting in Gitmo and want out, regardless of where it leads.

put them in a cell with Bernie Madoff. There has to be some mutual justice in that.

hey! i thought this was an inside government job?

::smirk::

Nanc my syrian and palestinian buddies claim it was an inside job or at least the US Gov knew about it and did nothing. Bush knew but chose to do nothing to get more power.

put them in a cage with Shrub and Darth Cheney until hell freezes over.

#10 | Posted by nutcase at 2009

okay so saying something about putting them on a HUNTING TRIP with cheney.
now THAT would have been a lot funnier.

Try the SOBs. If found guilty, put them in jail. If not, implant a tracking chip in them and take them back to where we found them.

Nanc my syrian and palestinian buddies claim it was an inside job or at least the US Gov knew about it and did nothing. Bush knew but chose to do nothing to get more power.

#23 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009

oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
h

cue the x files track...

hey rasc

while you are at it

where is jimmy hoffa?

How can anyone believe this? This is as valid as the fake bin laden videos. But you idiots keep swallowing the bullsh*t. hopeless we are....

learned muslims don't believe in the 72 virgins because thats not what the koran says.

thank you drive through

#6 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-03-10 09:51 AM | Reply

Damn, you must be a fucking riot at a party: "Actually chickens cannot cross a road straight because their brain is wired .......... blah, blah, blah"

What a fucking hoot of fun Kliffy is

vernon you want to quote me in the koran about 72 virgins?

and please provide some sort of liguistic backing that houri means virgin, you ARE a arabic language scholar right.

or you going to continue to mock out of your ass with no backing

The glass enclosure/pneumatic hand shit was funny. Until I got to the "drop on muslims" business. Racist twaddle. Not all muslims are terrorists, just as not all Republicans are soulless greedy jingoistic shitheads.

As for "Barry" (by which I assume the poster means President Obama, unless film director Barry Sonnenfeld is in question) wanting to let plotters go so they can attack again, oh yeah, brilliant reading of the president's actions. More citizens who believe that someone who can become president actually wants to cause pain suffering and destruction to and of our country. Yay. Critical thought is important.

The glass enclosure/pneumatic hand shit was funny. Until I got to the "drop on muslims" business. Racist twaddle. Not all muslims are terrorists, just as not all Republicans are soulless greedy jingoistic shitheads.

#31 | Posted by pragmatist at 2009-03-10 11:59 AM | Reply

But apparently all "Pragmatists" respond in knee jerk fashion to the most obvious trolling and sarcasm.

You sir, are a dumb-shit.

And you're an asshole, 101, but I can accept that. (Overly serious, I'll accept. Dumb? Hardly.) And if it's just trolling, 1. why waste your time doing it? 2. why waste your time defending it?

But the pneumatic hand shit was fuckin' funny. And y'see, the next part made me lose the humor. Not that anyone really cares. : )

Nanc my syrian and palestinian buddies claim it was an inside job or at least the US Gov knew about it and did nothing. Bush knew but chose to do nothing to get more power.

#23 | Posted by rastaninja

Horse manure Rasta--the entire post.

Great intel of the US in syria and palestine--yes indeed. They have the pulse alright.

And your last comment about Bush is just insane.

And this supposed document is to be printed today?

As an Infidel--I want to see it.

What leads you to believe they are innocent of these crimes?

#9 | Posted by chickenrancher at 2009-03-10 10:24 AM | Reply | Fl

What makes you think they are guilty of these crimes? Their confessions? Confessions tortured out of them? Confessions given to enhance their status in the Arab world like Osama? Confessions are worthless when clouded with the suspicion of torture. I bet you would say you were part of the 911 planning after a couple of gallons of water were thrown on a rag over your face as you hung upside down for a few weeks..

What took 'em so long? I'd have confessed on the plane to Gitmo.

Shenanigans.
9/11 was an inside job.

Barry wants to let these 9/11 plotters go so they can attack again.

#19 | Posted by fuckwithom

I make shit up because my brain is the size of a walnut.

- FuckWitThom

And your last comment about Bush is just insane.

#34 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-03-10 12:43 PM | Reply | Flag

Great rebuttal from someone with absolutely no logical skills. Nice try. But really---stick with NU-UUHHHH.

I can think of no other circumstance where a CIC of ANYTHING from a gas station to an army base would sit on his ass when told that whatever he was in charge of was being attacked. Take yoursdelf for instance. You are called on your cell when you are away from your home, and told your house in being attacked. Do you just sit there? It is not a human action to sit on your ass when whatever you are in charge of is being attacked---unless you knew of the attack, and things were going as expected.

When Andy Card tells the President about the second plane, and that America is under attack, he doesn't wait for orders as would be expected---no--he turns IMMEDIATELY and walks off. Again, this is not typical human behavior. If a Captain tells the CO of an army base that the base is under attak, he doesn't just walk off after delivering the news--he waits for orders that he KNOWS will be and should be coming from the CO. If the Captain DID walk off, I'm sure the CO would call him back for more info, or to issue instructions. Nope--neither acted according to normal human behavior under those circumstances. BUT--if Andrew Card was just giving Bush an UPDATE of events, then their actions seem perfectly normal.

Also, the Secret Service actede improperly. It had been ascertained America was under attack. Bushs location was well known. With such a large scale attack, it would have been a great coup for the terrorists if they could have taken down the Towers, the Pentagon, the White House, and assassinated Bush all in one day. The Secret Service HAD to assume Bush was a target, and that his continued presence in that classroom was a threat to Bush and to the children. The Secret Service should have acted on their own to protect Bush.

What is insane is Bush LYING about seeing the first plane flying into the WTC before he went into that classroom. Why would he lie about the most important day of his Presidency? Why would he lie about seeing that first plane? The answer is obvious. He did see the first plane hit with closed circuit TV. He just lied about where he was when he saw the first plane hit.

Shenanigans.
9/11 was an inside job.
#37 | Posted by perineum_rodeo

LOL. Then why doesn't Obama come out and say it was? As president, he would have access to the info and the people that could prove 9/11 was an inside job, don't you think? Either 9/11 was an "outside" job perpetrated by extremists or it was an inside job and Obama is *gasp* part of the cover-up. Which one is it? You can answer too, Bob. Did it happen as the news said it did or is Obama a terrorist too?

Wasn't there a movie with the line "you're going to get a fair trial followed by a first class hanging"?

Bartimus

Obama hasn't released any photos of the Pentagon plane either. Just because Obama hasn't done anything so far, doesn't mean he won't in time. But you are correct--if Obama doesn't eventuially authorize a real 911 investigation with members who werren't chosen by some of the people suspected in the plot, he is guilty also. America needs resolution to answers not given so far. The majority of Americans don't believe the government bullshit story, and it festers in American history.

1. why waste your time doing it? 2. why waste your time defending it?

#33 | Posted by pragmatist at 2009-03-10 12:10 PM | Reply

1. To watch "dumb-shits" like you get worked up over obvious trolling and sarcasm while claiming not to be dumb.
2. To remind dumb-shits like you that you are dumb

Ooooh, clever. Troll away, genius.

LOL. Then why doesn't Obama come out and say it was? As president, he would have access to the info and the people that could prove 9/11 was an inside job, don't you think? Either 9/11 was an "outside" job perpetrated by extremists or it was an inside job and Obama is *gasp* part of the cover-up. Which one is it? You can answer too, Bob. Did it happen as the news said it did or is Obama a terrorist too?

Every president walks into office astonished at the bonehead moves of his predecessor, and after one week of briefings he realizes why his predecessor's hands were completely tied, just like his own are now. This is why we are screwed.

#42 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

While I think we have to agree to disagee (not that I beleive 100%, there are holes) I do appreciate your consistency. So many people are such Obama dittoheads they don't realize some of the implications they're making.

LOL. Then why doesn't Obama come out and say it was? As president, he would have access to the info and the people that could prove 9/11 was an inside job, don't you think? Either 9/11 was an "outside" job perpetrated by extremists or it was an inside job and Obama is *gasp* part of the cover-up. Which one is it? You can answer too, Bob. Did it happen as the news said it did or is Obama a terrorist too?

#40 | Posted by bartimus at 2009-03-10 01:33 PM | Reply |

I offer no opinion on the 9/11 thing, but it does occur to me if such a conspiracy did exist, that Obama may very well not have any access to it. They are called "loyalists" for a reason.

Its kind of narrow to say this could have only gone down under 1 of 2 circumstances, heck this is a prism of possibility.

1. To watch "dumb-shits" like you get worked up over obvious trolling and sarcasm while claiming not to be dumb.
2. To remind dumb-shits like you that you are dumb

#43 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-03-10 01:48 PM | Reply |

Seriously listen to the man. Every fucking post is a troll, posting with chairborne is like pissing in the wind while suffering from kydney stones.

The glass enclosure/pneumatic hand shit was funny. Until I got to the "drop on muslims" business. Racist twaddle. Not all muslims are terrorists, just as not all Republicans are soulless greedy jingoistic shitheads.

As for "Barry" (by which I assume the poster means President Obama, unless film director Barry Sonnenfeld is in question) wanting to let plotters go so they can attack again, oh yeah, brilliant reading of the president's actions. More citizens who believe that someone who can become president actually wants to cause pain suffering and destruction to and of our country. Yay. Critical thought is important.

Sorry but muslims are evil and must be punished

Nanc my syrian and palestinian buddies claim it was an inside job or at least the US Gov knew about it and did nothing. Bush knew but chose to do nothing to get more power.

#23 | Posted by rastaninja

Your first problem is you have syrian and palestinian buddies. they should be in GITMO

Should I ask Timbci if he's trolling? Hee hee. Actually, I"ve seen his hate before, so if he is, he's damned consistent about it. I'm amazed that anyone can live in such a simplistic world. Ah, well, I shall defend his right...

Vern,RastaNinja,BL2, FWThom and Nanc all chime in. Proving that maybe the First Amendment should be repealed.

The majority of Americans don't believe the government bullshit story, and it festers in American history

Much like the single bullet theory killed Kennedy 45 years ago?

Yeah, but they've paid enough haven't they? 3000 dead vs waterboarding? I'd say they've been punished enough.

"To us, they are not accusations ... they are a badge of honor, which we carry with honor," the filing reads.

I imagine they're just trying to confess to the crime to up their "street cred" among terrorists. If this doesn't work, I imagine they'll say they offed Tupac and Biggie.

Bob, you truly are an idiot. I should take up Goatman's way of addressing you. BOob. What was Bush supposed to do, jump up and down and scream? He was in a room with grade schooler's for Christ's sake. He handled the situation like a president and a man would handle it. You, on the other hand, would have flew off the handle and started screaming, " the terrorists are coming! The terrorists are coming! "

Anything to find fault, huh, BOob?

Locked in solitude, and tortured for five year they would say that Daffy Duck told them to do it, if that is what their programmers wanted them to say.

I get a laugh at all of you stupid people that lap this kind of propanda up like a cat lapping milk.
Morons.....

propaganda...

Bartimus
Obama hasn't released any photos of the Pentagon plane either. Just because Obama hasn't done anything so far, doesn't mean he won't in time. But you are correct--if Obama doesn't eventuially authorize a real 911 investigation with members who werren't chosen by some of the people suspected in the plot, he is guilty also. America needs resolution to answers not given so far. The majority of Americans don't believe the government bullshit story, and it festers in American history.
#42 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-03-10 01:40 PM

Cheney is somewhat like Putin, both having "left" positions "of extraordinary knowledge and power" (I'll bet he kept the tiny cape and The Yes Men style video interface). What makes anyone assume they weren't working on their own exit strategy their entire reign? It would explain all half-hearted effort towards anything to the contrary. Let's remember them through rose colored oil pricing, creating more employment, removing all costs for education, establishing the best health care network that aggregates all choices and minimizes costs, inspires research. I love how they spend all of their time tackling those evildoers. Oh, and the applied ethics council elected from the professional, scientific, educational, military intelligence and governmental sectors, among many. At least one forum with open calls - no topic should be unexpected with a sensorium that expensive to bat about for an hour. Maybe develop a team of callers that the guests would use to ask questions to another guest, represented by an intercepting caller who would read her response. If she's from the wrong recipient, we lose a questioner to a number of fantastic extraditable hidden scientific "sandcastle" communities for a lifetime of servitude and shame starring on one of many other subsidiary game shows.

What a noble effort they have made to internationalize our personability and propagate love towards Americans, Israeli, Iraqis, Saudis, Korean, Venezuelan, Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese, oh, let's just say the entirety of eye heart Pacific rimmers out there. Americans are a blessing and George Bush is the blessinger.

Investigations, interrogations, hard data such as visitor lists and CIA torture tapes - all gotten at. Obama oversees a very complex arrangement between a priapic elephant and one seriously wounded jackass.

I'd agree that perhaps Bush should have acted in a more commanding manner after being informed. But his lack of action is not proof of complicity. It could just be proof that he's an extraordinary dumbass. So is he a mastermind or a moron? I'd lean toward the latter myself.

As for the story...did they offer any proof other than a confession? No, I didn't read the article. Yes, I'm lazy. Get over it.

I've asked a million times, if this was in inside job in any way, where were the dem leaders when this happened? And where are they now?

It's like GW was able to keep everything a big secret, and no one would have ratted him out?????

The audacity of the 911 scholars, in this age of 'responsibility' is NOT a joke

Vern,RastaNinja,BL2, FWThom and Nanc all chime in. Proving that maybe the First Amendment should be repealed.

#52 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-03-10 03:07 PM | Reply

When Boob starts his own country you can help him write the 7 Articles of the Boob of Rights.

propaganda...

#58 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-03-10 04:57 PM | Reply

The first post was funnier.

What are you now saying? Are you actually ANTI-panda?

When Boob starts his own country you can help him write the 7 Articles of the Boob of Rights.

#62 | Posted by vernon at 2009-03-10 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

As usual, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend the written word. I never said I would start my own country little mind. I love America and am quite happy here. I recommend that people who DON'T love America start their own country. You know---people like Chuck Norris, and FWThom, and all those right wing cells that are ready to rebel against America.

"I hear their reading requirements aren't as stringent, and you could probably slide by with your third gtade reading level."

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-03-10 07:46 PM | Reply | flag: broken irony meter

You still get 72 virgins, but they all look like your mom

#5 | Posted by vernon at 2009-03-10 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

We wish yours had stayed a virgin.

"My point all along has been--take Texas and leave peacefully--no need for bloodshed--no one will stop your exit. I'm sure you would be happier in their New Texas..."

#64 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2009-03-10 07:46 PM

Oh this is good. Let's do some math. Texas has about 24M people with a population density of about 91/sq mi. If we stuff all the people that still believe Bush did a good job in to Texas, the population would about triple. Would they fit?? SURE! At that point, the population density of Texas would still be lower than Ohio!

I say go for it....

"My point all along has been--take Texas and leave peacefully--no need for bloodshed--no one will stop your exit. I'm sure you would be happier in their New Texas..."

On fact that the historically ignorant bOoB* ignores is that if Texas left to become a republic as it was in 1846, we would have to take about half of New Mexico, and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana

On fact that the historically ignorant bOoB* ignores is that if Texas left to become a republic as it was in 1846, we would have to take about half of New Mexico, and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana

The Republic of Texas

#68 | Posted by goatman

Not Montana.

Not Montana.

I stand corrected. Also in error I left out parts of Kansas and Oklahoma

Not Montana.

I stand corrected. Also in error I left out parts of Kansas and Oklahoma

#70 | Posted by goatman

No problem. We Montanan's have a lot of pride in our state too.

We Montanan's have a lot of pride in our state too.

For some reason I thought you lived in Ohio

For some reason I thought you lived in Ohio

#72 | Posted by goatman

I do now, but born and raised in Montana and lived in Dallas and SA for 20+ years.