This is the way to go.

Since when did we really care about the Taliban?
We didn't until they started allowing OBL to reside on their land in return for money.

If we can flip elements of the Taliban to our side, we may be able to get OBL. We flipped both Sunni & Shia in Iraq using cash and it can be done if Afghanistan too.

Please, before anyone screams that they treat their women poorly so we can't do business with them, I ask that you look at Saudi Arabia. They're family friends of the last administration and their human rights violations against women are legendary. I'm not saying it's right, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Have you hugged a terrorist today?

Hey....one brother to another....may work..!!!!

Karsick is already working on it. Everybody else has recognized there won't be a military solution.

Before righties whine about it, remember Bush's sunni "awakening" you guys all got woodies over.

Have you hugged a terrorist today?

#2 | POSTED BY ACLUSUX

Hugged, well not quite. The correct term is Bushedoff as in paid off..

Western culture is incompatible with extremist theologies like the taliban. No, it wont work. The taliban only care about their theocracy. They dont give a fuck that you want to negotiate. They will only use it to stall. I admire them in that they stick to one mantra. You know where they stand. No talking. No bullshitting. Only their way will work, and anyone who opposes them will be killed. Period. Everyone who has been to afghanistan and seen it at work knows this. It's only liberals who dont. You cant argue it, you cant say I'm crazy or whatever. That is the taliban, plain and simple. They must be killed. Their world will never live beside ours. Before he extends his hand to the taliban, I hope someone shows the messiah some tapes of what the taliban does for a living...

The more things change the more they stay the same. The last time We paid the Taliban 45 Million Dollars for Drug intradiction was in March 2001. Funny the Taliban fall out of favour with the United States until the Natural Gas/Oil pipeline get established and now the Taliban will be our friends once again. Same shit different day.

Larry

"Western culture is incompatible with extremist theologies like the taliban"
"Everyone who has been to afghanistan and seen it at work knows this. It's only liberals who dont"

May, 2001 .
Bush gives Taliban 43 million in US Tax Dollars!

Sending flowers with a stripper says it all. Of course the stripper would need to be a virgin. Instead just send them a drag queen, after months with camels and goats even a drag queen with a beard would look hot. Perhaps he can send them Hillary with a bunch of flowers. And Bill won't mind, he will get a vacation.

Reject the excuses for imperialist war in Afghanistan : Houston Indymedia

They traded spit in the pic on the lower left hand corner of that link.

Pickles didn't talk to him for weeks after that little indiscretion.

No doubt Bush whispered in his ear when they hugged goodbye "Hon, you HAVE to shave that mustache! It tickles!".

The State Department is already working on the buttons.

To be honest larry,

You dont know what the hell you are talking about.

In 2006, Pakistan insisted that if you can separate the "good taliban" (against Al-Qaeda) from the "bad taliban" (for al-Qaeda), you can turn the good-taliban to your point of view by negotiations and bribes.

America rubbished that, at the time... and yet, they are going to do the same, finally. LOL

You can't fight the drops falling from your shower. But you can turn the shower off.

Boaz, You can live in Your delusional brainwashed world. I LOVE living in the reality based community. THANKS.

Larry

You can live in Your delusional brainwashed world.

larry,

I have lived in afghanistan twice, and I am about to go back in 30 days...I have seen more than you have from your couch and looking at internet blogs and sites. Sorry old friend...you are WRONG on this one...

Is any one else having a hard time distinguishing the difference between BO and the last year of GWB on the Middle East / Radical Islam? Same Shit-different Country.

" Sorry old friend...you are WRONG on this one..."

where in afghanistan did you live?

kabul?

did you live the same way that 90% of afghans live?

or did you live like an american in afghanistan

or did you live like an american in afghanistan

In a base, behind barbed wire, hooked up to satellite TV and internet, only running into native-scum when sent to buy/steal eggs for breakfast.

In short, no different than Wisconsin.

You mean Dearborn Michigan

You mean Dearborn Michigan

An egg/chicken thief can make do anywhere I suppose.

In a base, behind barbed wire, hooked up to satellite TV and internet

I have done many missions outside in the villages outside and around cities in afghanistan. And I have contributed to Tosser losing many friends there.

My point is still valid, Larry doesnt know what he is talking about and to try to push a point without actually being there..It is different on the ground..

did you live the same way that 90% of afghans live?

No, I am american. But in reference to your ignorant comment, there are many military soldiers living in the afghan villages with the people.

And I have contributed to Tosser losing many friends there.

I am not aware of any friends I might have inside Afghanistan. LOL

How many of YOUR friends did you lose while stealing eggs?

there are many military soldiers living in the afghan villages with the people.

Making prostitutes out of their women at the point of a gun, no doubt.

You can take the boy out of the madrassah, but you can't take the madrassah out of the boy. We finally do have the equivalent of "The Manchurian Candidate" in the guise of "Barack Hussein Obama. He is a man indoctrinated for several years at a young age as an Islamic. He chose Islamic friends and accompanied them on a trip to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport when Americans were banned from traveling there. And remember the filial components, not only that his father was a Muslim, but that his mother demonstrated her preference for Islamics in her choices. And his family, his adored sister ...

Now, Barack Hussein is engaged in "humanizing" the most horrendous people extant, horrendous based on their nature, based on what they say and what they do. There have been a series of initiatives by Barack Husseing including the proffer of some $900,000,000 to the Hamas terrorist group, and he using the wife of "Beneficiary Bill" (who has received 'many millions' from Islamic donors) have initiated a policy favoring Islamics in that region, and favoring the Islamic Iranians, and now favoring the Islamic Taliban, who have established sharia law in the regions they control, a barbarous system that is antithetical to our values.

"Bullhorn Barack" (and don't omit the Hussein marker now although it was verboten to acknowledge it during the campaign), is well on his way orchestrating the breakdown of the American economy thus weakening America as an international power, and being an enabler for the growth of power of the Islamic terrorists. Barack Hussein is trying to put them beneath the radar and has taken the initiative in not equating their actions with their reality as the incarnation of evil, a depraved form of primitive barbarism at best, and also is conceding domination and power to them.

I thought that Barack Hussein had early on indicated that he would as President concentrate American forces in Afghanistan and destroy the Taliban. Oh, he's a liar? Who'd have thought that. Why, "The Omnibus Bill" would be available for five days for review and it was only up overnight. Hmm, transparency or opacity? No earmarks? Oh? No lobbyists. Oh? An administration free from corruption. Aha? And yet, there is no expression of disillusionment or critical storm from the idolators, who continue to venerate Obama. Dullards with muted minds worship unthinkingly.

Johnson,

Your boy Bush had his chance for 8 long years, and turned everything he touched into shit. Most people want to give Obama a chance, as the consequences of failure are unacceptable to all, regardless of political stripe. Hence, the massive approval rating for President Obama, despite the calamity. And you just sound like a yesterday's news, delusional asshole with all of your madrassah baloney--that old tune is worn out, and nobody wants to hear about it anymore, save Alan Keyes. Looney tune ideas, but you do write well.

P.S. Call him Hussein all you want. He is the President of the United States, and you are just some l-o-s-e-r.

Fundo the Johnson speaks!

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Fundo... when will the day come when people read your posts for the sheer pleasure of reading??? LOL

Syrian Nuclear Program

What reconciliation and concessions to Islam can be expected next. Stay tuned. You elected Barack Hussein. The concessions to Islam will come. Praise Allah.

"Since when did we really care about the Taliban?"

The Taliban was a willing participant in at least a half dozen attacks against us, including 9/11. You can use semantics to pretend that they are not as responsible as Al Queda but that's just an exercise is self delusion. In reality, none of Al Queda's major attacks against us would have happened without the Taliban. Making excuses for them is just an exercise in cowardice. I would rather just admit that we're letting them get away with it than than lie for them.

Fundo

What is that? Some sort of clay-like substance that children crudely mold into shapes of animals? Or is it some sort of party food that involves melted cheese?

I don't know this word

JOHNSON

Remember a little place called Iraq? Recall the Sunni uprising and how the U.S. found a way to engage those shooting at us? Guess not.

"The Manchurian Candidate" is a fait accompli as he is engaged in "humanizing" the terrorist next door. Roots. Don't forget the "roots" of Barack Hussein Obama, a complex man engaged in the destruction of America.

I don't know this word

"Fundo" is Pakistani-English for "Fundamentalist"... meaning someone who has taken one too many dents in the head.

Johnny is a Christian-Fundo.... a fact he is proud of. I mean look at him, the shameless prick. LOL

"If we can flip elements of the Taliban to our side, we may be able to get OBL"

Remind me again....why do we want this guy?

What will we do with him when we get him?

How much more do we have to spend to keep up this futile effort?

Senseless bullshit!!

An egg/chicken thief can make do anywhere I suppose.

#26 | Posted by Tosser

Thanks hadji

"Fundo" is Pakistani-English for "Fundamentalist"... meaning someone who has taken one too many dents in the head.

Someone like you then?

"I have done many missions outside in the villages outside and around cities in afghanistan. And I have contributed to Tosser losing many friends there."

and that some how makes you an expert at how to win in afghanistan?

your vision has been skewed by your mission on the ground.

an outsider like larry can see the bigger picture. something someone on the ground might not be able to see because he or she is clouded by the day to day missions

Because if you reach out to them, they will... what. Chew your hands and face off? Yes. I think that is what they will do.

"fucking retarded".

I think that's what we call it.

well good for him

and all the while the market is tanking and iran now has a AIR TO surface missle
so hey barry
be sure to keep rhom and his henchmen...carville and begayla focused on rush...

You want the Taliban to stop their bullshit?? Get them some industry in which they can work at and produce something/anything. It seems to me the vast majority of Afghanistanis are poor. If You introduce factories and Industrial areas then these Taliban would have something to hold onto and to strive towards and subsequently be prideful of their works. Remember Idle hands are a devils/Terrorist play ground.

Larry

Thanks hadji

No problem, Kaffir.

Someone like you then?

Oh no... I can never match our Johnny-Fundo.. no sir!

thats good larry

HEY we can send ted kennedy over there and show them how we won the war on our own poverty

WHATS THAT???

what???

we STILL havent won it...several trillion dollars later...oh nevermind

well if the DNC went over there to set up shop and promised them new houses and jobs and all that and all they had to do was vote BLINDLY for the dnc candidate I am sure that before long they would all be hunky dory.

I am getting to like your President more and more

Hussein sickens me, every single thing he has done so has been wrong.

It was a horrid day when the US was bamboozled by this far left fraud.

This story has to be bullshit. The drunken deciderer President Chimpy W. Hoover boasted that the Taliban was out of business for good back in 2003.Face it Chimptards, the loser you turds foisted on the country lost two wars and led the country into another depression.

What forced this reconsideration was a speech Bush delivered in late November to several thousand troops at Butts Army Air Field in Fort Carson, Colorado. On this occasion, Bush served up the usual rah-rah about the war on terrorism. But as he was hailing the U.S. military, he remarked, "Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda and put the Taliban out of business forever."

Yeah, talking to people instead of shooting them first. How stupid is that?

"Yeah, talking to people instead of shooting them first."

If talking doesn't pan out, you can always shoot them later.

"Yeah, talking to people instead of shooting them first. How stupid is that?"

There are no absolutes in real life. You can reason with some people and it is extremely naive and dangerous to try and reason with others. Anyone who can't see which category the Taliban falls under has no business commenting on our national defense.

Hussein just gave a $billion dolllars to Hamas.

'Change you can beleive in.'

Somewhere in hell Sheik Yassin is smiling.

Integer commodo auctor metus...
when will the day come when people read your posts for the sheer pleasure of reading??? LOL

#32 | Posted by Tosser

I enjoy reading your posts and if I spoke latin or whatever the fuck that is I would enjoy it even more.Why do you do that?

Ok...so Obama will talk to the Talban, give money to Hamas, tie in with Syria but not talk or give credeance to the Republicans.

Yes, that is Change we can believe in! Especially if we are terriorist bent on destroying America

Ok...so Obama will talk to the Talban, give money to Hamas, tie in with Syria but not talk or give credeance to the Republicans.

Yes, that is Change we can believe in! Especially if we are terriorist bent on destroying America

#59 | Posted by foshaffer at 2009-03-08 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

Please, put down the Rush pipe and step away.

Republicans are the ones who made it clear that they want Obama to fail and would rather attack him for working without a jacket in the oval office vs Bush who wore a jacket and did jack-shit.

As for working with our enemies, why do you think the violence in Iraq has slowed?

It's because we pay both sides not to kill us. Plain and simple......just like you.

-it is extremely naive and dangerous to try and reason with others

Really? So, if you are the new president and you want to try to to talk to an enemy, there are some enemies that you cannot talk to because it is common knowledge that nothing you could say could possibly lead to a peaceful solution?

That's a pretty limited view.

But wholly consistent with

- has no business commenting on our national defense.

...much like so many other little dictators, wanting to shut people up.

#39 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-03-08 11:40 AM

"Fundo" is Pakistani-English for "Fundamentalist"...

... meaning someone who has taken one too many dents in the head.

Okay. There was a glimmer of hope, Tosser. Alas. Alack.

I admire a man who knows what he is and is unashamed of just who and what he is, Tosser, despite how others may regard him. Your support for Barack Hussein just underlines the affinity that exists, and your recognition of where Barack Hussein's sympathies lie.

For the Islamics, he's a mole working in their behalf. For Americans he is at best a renegade. When will he be discovered? Or will he even be discovered? time will tell. But if he is discovered, and his underhanded work in behalf of Islam is recognized, I suspect there will be no negative reverberations since degenerated and emasculated America even lacks the redeeming feature of thinking it has any self-worth, any value that merits defending.

#44 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-03-08 01:40 PM

an outsider like larry can see the bigger picture. something someone on the ground might not be able to see because he or she is clouded by the day to day missions

I get the point. The less acquainted a person is with any data, the more value his pontifications have. So, we should pursue this on an abstract basis, use of conjecture without any grounding with information.

There is, however, a problem here. Since you, klifferd, are so well acquainted with the culture and the situation, you are less knowledgeable than anyone else, applying the principles that you lay down. So, I suppose your view from your perspective, should be disregarded as worthless. Got it.

Just relax, Boaz. the matter is in good hands. I've even more ignorant than Larry, so my view is the most authoritative. Makes sense to klifferd. And the new 1984 is here. "Ignorance is knowledge." That's wisdom from the East.

You be funnin' us. Ain't you klifferd?

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009-03-08 07:06 P

The drunken deciderer President Chimpy W. Hoover boasted that the Taliban was out of business for good back in 2003.Face it Chimptards, the loser you turds ...

You have a way with words. "Chimptard." I've checked some lists of compound words, words that are formed when two words are combined, and seemingly this neologism has not found sufficient use to be included in any collection. Hazarding a guess, it seems to be more of a portmanteau word intended as blend of "Chimpanzee" and "retard. And since we're discussing Barack Hussein Obama, I suppose that you are not aware of the furor recently raised when a cartoonist compared Obama to a chimpanzee.

You quoted an article from a free press rag that is notorious for reinterpreting events from an anti-American perspective, and is possibly loose not only with its commentary but also with its reporting of facts.

if I spoke latin or whatever the fuck that is I would enjoy it even more.Why do you do that?

Did you understand anything Fundo-the-Johnson just posted above?

No?

Neither did I.

So I try and talk to him in the classical language of religious-fanatics... Latin. So that.. maybe... just maybe... our Fundo gets a clue to how ridiculous he is.

I swear I have never seen someone being literate and illiterate at the same time. LOL

So maybe Latin might do the trick where all else has failed?

And Fundo... may Allah put worms in your asshole.... I do not support Omamba AT ALL.

1. I am not American, so he isn't my problem.

2. Before the elections I had told you all, what a disaster you are heading for if you elect this guy.

No, Fundo... it is just you I am ridiculing.

We flipped both Sunni & Shia in Iraq using cash and it can be done if Afghanistan too.

#1 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

We flipped both Sunni & Shia in Iraq using cash and it can be done if Afghanistan too.

#1 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

I'm sure you were extremely supportive when Bush did the same thing in Iraq.

#69 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-03-09 11:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're right. I wasn't supportive of that at all. Iraq is Bush's completely unrelated bloodbath.

At least by paying off the Taliban, we may be able to find the man who killed 3000 American civilians. I know Bush doesn't care where he is and "isn't concerned" with OBL, but many Americans, myself included, want to see OBL dead or tossed in a dark hole for the rest of his life.