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Friday, March 06, 2009

A Canadian judge ruled Thursday that a man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a fellow Greyhound bus passenger is not criminally responsible due to mental illness.Chinese immigrant Vince Li will be treated in a mental institution instead of going to prison. The family of victim Tim McLean dismissed the trial as a "rubber stamp" that allows Li to get away with murder. He will be institutionalized without a criminal record and will be reassessed every year by a mental health review board to determine if he is fit for release into the community.

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Li's trial barely lasted two days and only heard from two witnesses, both psychiatrists, who testified he is mentally ill.

That Li killed the 22-year-old carnival worker was never in question at the trial. Li has admitted he killed McLean but pleaded not guilty.

Witnesses said Li attacked McLean unprovoked as their bus traveled at night along a desolate stretch of the Trans-Canada Highway.

An agreed statement of facts between the prosecution and defense detailed how passengers stood outside the bus as Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and beheaded and mutilated his body. Finding himself locked inside the bus, Li finally escaped through a window and was arrested.

Li then apologized and pleaded with police to kill him.

Police said McLean's body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim's ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pocket.

A psychiatrist called by the prosecution Wednesday testified that Li cut up McLean's body because he believed that he would come back to life and take revenge.

McLean's family is vowing to turn their attention to fighting the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well, without serving a minimum sentence in jail.

DeDelley said her son didn't die in vain. His death highlights concerns about the justice system, she said. "Now people are aware that there is a problem," she said.

What do you want to bet -- with Canada's liberal criminal justice system (w/no death penalty allowed for anyone found guilty of criminal homicide) -- this schizophrenic mental case will be let out of his mental institution and found riding another Greyhound bus on some Canadian highway in less than 3 years.

He should be institutionalized for life because if he's set free no one will make sure that he takes any needed medication on a regular basis. All this Chinese immigrant guy needs to do is pull the wool over some psychiatrist's eye and act "cured" for a year or two and then he'll be found "fit for society" again and set free.

Question -- is Canadian law the same as U.S. law where if a person is found insane at the time of commiting a crime once they have been treated in a mental institution and are found to no longer be insane they are then tried for their crime in a criminal court? Or once they are found to be no longer insane does Canada just set them free again?


Next time you're on a Canadian Greyhound bus make sure you've got an empty seat next to you.

now that we know how it's done...time to start acting CRAZY!

Police said McLean's body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim's ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pocket.

His family is fighting the bus company's bill for the 9
seats he ended up in.

I would think that the family has a liability law suit against the bus company, for not protecting a passenger?

Greyhound.....There's always something weird happening on the grey-gog.

Greyhound.....There's always something weird happening on the grey-gog.

#5 | Posted by JeffnDenmark at 2009-03-05 05:35 PM


Didn't know they had those in Cowardmark!

A psychiatrist called by the prosecution Wednesday testified that Li cut up McLean's body because he believed that he would come back to life and take revenge.

Sounds a little mixed up. The zombie is scared of its victim coming back from the dead...

Excuse me, gentlemen. I have a situation to deal with.

This is fucked up on so many levels. He should have received Life W/O parole. What was this just malfcuktion??

Larry

No malfunction if he was certifiably insane, Larry.


No malfunction if he was certifiably insane, Larry.

Posted by goatman at 2009-03-05 07:00 PM | Reply


Oh puhlease You can't be serious?? Either You are full of shit or You are trooling. If it's the former I am sorry. If it's the latter then go find someone else to trool. Thanks.

larry

Oh puhlease You can't be serious??

You take an odd stance for a liberal, Larry. Civilized societies don't prosecute the insane.

You take an odd stance for a liberal, Larry. Civilized societies don't prosecute the insane.

Posted by goatman at 2009-03-05 07:08 PM | Reply

Many Claims of insanity are bogus. They do it so they can get out of punishments. Hell if I was looking at Life w/o parole I might act insane just to get out of going to the joint. You dig??

larry

Many Claims of insanity are bogus. They do it so they can get out of punishments.

That's true. Do you have some information that the rest of the public doesn't have? It sounds like you know more than the psychiatrists who have examined him. What proof do you have he is not insane?

Personally, the act itself pretty much clinches his lack of sanity, but I'd like to hear how you know he isn't.

Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and beheaded and mutilated his body....Police said McLean's body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim's ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pocket....

Definitely a certifiable wackjob at the time of the crime who needs to be confined in a mental institution for the criminally insane.

The issue is if he should ever be allowed to be released back into society again if, after being treated for his mental condition, he is at some future time pronounced "legally sane"?

Can any psychiatrist or doctor ever guarantee the outside world this guy would never in the future revert back into a state of criminal insanity again?

If this wackjob Li is ever set free after being declared "cured" by some Canadian shrink, would you want to sit beside Li on a long bus ride?

btw -- to the "anti-gun" nuts:

If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today.

Definitely a certifiable wackjob ...

Not according to Larry. He thinks these are the acts of a sane man.

Kinda says a lot about Larry, doesn't it?

Bring back the guillotine! This guy deserves no less.

If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today.

Well..we allow knives on buses apparently...so it`s a start!

If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today.


Well..we allow knives on buses apparently...so it`s a start!

#17 | Posted by jubal_harshaw at 2009-03-05 09:33 PM | Reply | Flag: I Shouldn't Be Laughing But I Am

An interesting dilemma...

Where do you draw the line between the crimial and the insane? Goatman is right- a civilized society should not punish the insane, but how do you establish an objective standard for something as subjective as sanity? What is insanity? We're able to interact with one another because we have relatively similar neural architecture and relatively similar patterns of interaction between brain cells...

What happens when someone is unable to interact with us, and manirfests this by cannibalizing someone on a fucking bus? What is right if that person is, say, your sister?

If you're mutilating and eating somebody, you're either a zombie or a fucking nutjob- and in neither case should you be mingling with the rest of society. This is an extreme case, though, and I'm more interested in the difficult decisions in unclear cases. I don't expect an easy answer, but I do expect a debate.

This makes me wonder, how those who knew the victim ever find a sense of justice...

Enjoy a vision of the future, this is right where we are heading. But I guess this is a good thing.

Just ask any liberal scum and they'll tell you this is great.

"Just ask any liberal scum and they'll tell you this is great."

Yeah! This isn't just great. It's grrrrrrreat! Cutting off heads and eating people on a bus. Or, alternatively, eating people and then cutting off their heads on the bus. It's a, well, ideological thing.

Gawd, you're an idiot.

Where do you draw the line between the crimial and the insane? Goatman is right- a civilized society should not punish the insane, but how do you establish an objective standard for something as subjective as sanity?

#19 | Posted by ZombieHunter at 2009-03-06 05:00 AM


I know many people are suspicious of the insanity plea, since it keeps the perpetrator out of prison.

But it should be noted, that Psychiatrists are in fact doctors. I think the confusion comes from having so many psychologists pretending to be doctors.

Psychiatry is a science. Psychiatrists study the brain, it's chemestry, and the illnesses that is suffers from.

psychology is not a science. psychologists pretend they know what they are talking about, and do all types of studies on behavior, and try to make it look like science.



McLean's family is vowing to turn their attention to fighting the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well, without serving a minimum sentence in jail.

That's really the crux of the biscuit right there. In that respect, I hope they're successful.

But that mens rea issue... kinda demands that a person not be incarcerated without the requisiste guilty mind.

"psychology is not a science."

I guess that's right. more like a philosophy, or a religion, dare I say. That said, they are helpful.

I meant to say "Grey-dog"....

"It's a, well, ideological thing."

I heard that this guy is a member Michelle's coven?

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I once knew a young man whom had killed his father by hitting him with a truck and backing over him again and again and again till the cops pulled him out of the rig. Now he did his time in the loney bin but got out insain they claimed but when i met him he was free and with no record slightly nuts but very smart.

Your point?

I heard that this guy is a member Michelle's coven?
#25 | Posted by JeffnDenmark


Well, either you did or you didn't. (It's the question mark, see, makes one wonder whether you're asking if you heard---only you know, though---or whether you actually heard---and, again, only you know.) Speaking for myself, I don't doubt you heard this, or something like it. I say this because I heard---didn't it?---they're doing remarkable things with tinfoil hats, molar implant receptor coils, and cranial plate receivers these days.

psychology is not a science. psychologists pretend they know what they are talking about, and do all types of studies on behavior, and try to make it look like science.


#22 | Posted by Roy_Batty at 2009-03-06 08:13 AM |

Sooo, there is no such thing as mental illness or the study of that condition? That makes a lot of sense...

'scuse me, but do any of you know if one can take a chainsaw onto a bus? just curious...

Doc_Sarvis- "Yeah! This isn't just great. It's grrrrrrreat! Cutting off heads and eating people on a bus. Or, alternatively, eating people and then cutting off their heads on the bus. It's a, well, ideological thing."

You'll destroy this country, take all it's ppl down with it and still swear your the one thats right.

You've obviously missed my posts from a few days ago with proof of the destruction you scum are all causing.

I'll never forgive any of you for it....ever.

That not funny. In the USA if an Illegal Immigrant he would get a free pass back to Mexico and Obama would give him 2 million dollars of Tax Payers Money to cure him.

I am torn between recognizing that he is in fact very insane (he ate his eyeballs and part of his heart), so in that sense, a mental institution is where he belongs for the rest of his life - and on the other hand, he ate someone's eyeballs. I mean WTF. He brought a knife, and apparently ziplock baggies, on the bus, so he had something going on the planning dept... He can never be trusted and probably needs to be put down. Even in an institution, he could cause harm... we all saw Silence of the Lambs...

"His family is fighting the bus company's bill for the 9 seats he ended up in."

Cookfish -If we ever meet, I want to buy you a beer.

Here is another candidate for the same institution to which Jeffrey Donner was sent to.

Libs should be out in force protesting this ruling. This is overt discrimination! If this head slicer was a Moooslum, it would be perfectly normal behavior, according to libs. All cultures are equal.

you mean Dahmer.
Donner party is the cannibalism by necessity story of US gold rush wagon train that got lost....
I agree being sodomized andbeaten to death with a broomstick is probably deserved for him...

Sooo, there is no such thing as mental illness or the study of that condition? That makes a lot of sense...

#29 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-03-06 09:00 AM


You should pay closer attention to what you are reading.

Yes there is mental illness, but psychologists do not treat mental illness, Psychiatrists do, because Psychiatrists are doctors.

Pay close attention to the words:

Psychiatrist = Doctor

Psychologist = college graduate

LaRrY'S oN ThE LoOsE!

Sooo, there is no such thing as mental illness...


#29 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-03-06 09:00 AM | Reply


Yes there am!
Sincerely,
Redneckville, Celisary, LArRymOhR, and AntiCadillac

"If this head slicer was a Moooslum,"

Which he wasn't.

Akin to someone in Pakistan saying, "If Ali was a Chrisitian from Alabama his fondness for perky porcines would make sense."

So, you point, aside from being ridiculous, is....what?

Anyone who commits a murder this gruesome is insane. Should they all be released to mental hospitals? I say no. A crime is a crime. Whether your intent sprang from some misfiring neurons or chemical imbalance in your brain makes no difference to me. This guy is fucked up. He took the life of one man, and he ruined some poor family's life to boot. Not to mention everyone who had to see what he did. They'll probably go through more therapy than he will.

Observer27 is bus cannibal crazy. Probably Canadian too.

You've obviously missed my posts from a few days ago with proof of the destruction you scum are all causing.

I'll never forgive any of you for it....ever.
#31 | Posted by observer27

Well, y'know how it is, compadre, catch a few, miss a few. So I went back and looked at your posts. Nobody will ever bother making a movie of your life---unless it's some cable channel doing a late docudrama they can run between commercials for land deals in Sinaloa and warhog hair transplants about some geek they pried off a water tower in Enid, Oklahoma, after he threatened to detonate a plutonium grenade in Peshawar, Pakistan, with emanations from his rectal-cranial transmitting-receiving spring coil implant device---but if they did, they'd probably call it something like "Flight of the Loon."

Doc,

Let me spell it out:

Libs believe that all cultures are equal.
Libs believe that we shouldn't judge anyone.
Libs believe that we shouldn't discriminate against anyone.
Moooslums believe that head slicing is great, it's in the Koran, especially against non-Moooslums.
The victim was an infidel.
Ergo, the head slicer should go free.

Where is Dethspud and could he have been the victim or the perp?

I think the problem is that we have no way of handling mental illnesses that are incurable. I mean schizophrenics can generally maintain some semblence of a normal life with drugs but often go off them because of how shitty the drugs make them feel. Then they become dangerous. So do you lock them up forever because they may lapse on the drugs. It's hard to say. The fact is ethics has a hard time keeping up with medical advacnes.

#36 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-03-06 09:48 AM | Reply |

Thanks for the post "genious".

Psychiatrist = Doctor

Psychologist = college graduate

#38 | Posted by Roy_Batty at 2009-03-06 09:49 AM | Reply |

You're close, but not quite. From folks in the industry, the biggest difference is the ability to prescribe drugs.

"You're close, but not quite. From folks in the industry, the biggest difference is the ability to prescribe drugs."

#49 | Posted by panchovilla

A Psychiatrist is a physician. Although their speciality is Phyc. they also could if needed do minor surgery, deliver a baby etc. They can in the process of examining someone treat many things besides psyc problems.

Psychologists treat mental health too, just not with drugs. They use talk therapy and other methods that are just as important as pills in many cases of depression and other anxiety disorders. To say they aren't doctors is absurd since there is a 4 year phD program for Psychology, and to say they don't treat mental illness is even more stupid.

I still think that locking someone in a 10x8 cell for the rest of their life is more cruel and unusual than executing them.

It shouldn't matter if someone is insane or not - if they are unable to function in society for whatever reason they need to be controlled....

I think ya'll are insane!
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Psychologists treat mental health too, just not with drugs. They use talk therapy and other methods that are just as important as pills in many cases of depression and other anxiety disorders. To say they aren't doctors is absurd since there is a 4 year phD program for Psychology, and to say they don't treat mental illness is even more stupid.

#51 | Posted by JOE at 2009-03-06 11:29 AM



Sure... talk about your illness and make it better.

That's not stupid at all.

A community college graduate can call them self a psychologist, yeah that's on par with a someone who graduates from medical school.

Let me spell it out...
#45 | Posted by fwthom


It may not be too late. I mean, who knows, the person who taught you Anthropology 101 might still be alive, right? If so, please contact them and ask them for a refresher lecture on what the term "cultural relativism" means because, so far, you haven't got a clue.

Ah, hell, it's probably not worth the bother, so we'll go the default response, shall we?

Ergo...
#45 | Posted by fwthom

Ergo, you're an idiot.

Hell if I was looking at Life w/o parole I might act insane just to get out of going to the joint. You dig??


larry

#12 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-03-05 07:11 PM | Reply | Flag Complete Lack of Self-Awareness

Studies show that people with personality disorders (a classification that covers many of the most common mental health problems) recover seven times faster with the help of therapy than they would without treatment.
www.health.com

You're a fucking fool.


If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today.
.......#18 | Posted by MrFair

.....that means that the cannibal could have bought a gun too.....and taken out a half dozen "meals" before the return fire got him......

Not to make light of it, but isn't "Canadian Bus Cannibal Ruled Insane" a bit redundant?

You're a fucking fool.

#59 | Posted by JOE at 2009-03-06 02:20 PM


What are you arguing?

Of course people get better with treatment, than without.

The only fool, is the one who thinks a psychologist is going to be of any help, with a manifest disorder.


"""Sure... talk about your illness and make it better."""

Not sure what your hangup is with psychology, but yeah, it does work. Not everything needs to be cured with a pill and psychology is a well established and respected profession. As is the case in any profession, there are quacks, but total dismissal?

If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today.
.......#18 | Posted by MrFair


.....that means that the cannibal could have bought a gun too.....and taken out a half dozen "meals" before the return fire got him......

#60 | Posted by skizziks at 2009-03-06 02:21 PM | Reply | Flag


SKIZ - that was someone else's post I had cut & pasted. I merely added a "flag" to Post #17/18.

"""If Canada had allowed the bus driver or bus passengers to carry a gun for protection the victim might be alive today."""

You can keep your guns and your homophobia. Look at our stats, compare them to yours...it's a no-brainer.

You can keep your guns and your homophobia. Look at our stats, compare them to yours...it's a no-brainer.

Posted by panchovilla at 2009-03-06 03:16 PM |

Your country is filled with the French though! Personally, I'll take the guns and homophobes.

Kanrei,

Canada is probably pretty nice in the winter. They send all their French down to Hollywood, Florida then.

I love Canada but it is too damned cold up there. They need to do a swap with Mexico and then it would be a true paradise on earth!!!! Maybe they could just annex Florida, eh?

"What are you arguing?
Of course people get better with treatment, than without."

Your claim was that psychologists do not treat mental illness. I say that they do, and the study backs me up. Therapy works.

Axe,
As a Floridian, I can say NO! We have had to deal with American Northerners for years. To give us the French on top of all the Spanish would be more than my little state could take.

Look at our stats...

#65 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-03-06 03:16 PM | Reply |

You have more "Gordies" per capita than any other country.

You can keep your guns and your homophobia. Look at our stats, compare them to yours...it's a no-brainer.

#65 | Posted by panchovilla

Don't worry, when Mexico is finished with it's reconquering of the U.S. were coming up there, and bringing all of our guns and homophobia with us. Better start sharpening your forks 'n' knives.

Don't worry, when Mexico is finished with it's reconquering of the U.S. were coming up there, and bringing all of our guns and homophobia with us. Better start sharpening your forks 'n' knives.

#71 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-03-06 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag


Not to mention how they treat black people in Mexico. Do a little research - amazing in this day and age.

Your country is filled with the French though! Personally, I'll take the guns and homophobes.

#66 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-03-06 03:18 PM |

Hard to debate that fact when I'm a half breed. Give it a try, I can tell you my french has served me a lot better than a gun or homophobia ever could...can't tell how much of a panty remover it is with your women.

Better start sharpening your forks 'n' knives.

#71 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-03-06 03:28 PM | Reply |

Hockey stick...better reach.

Kanrei,

You must live far from Hollywood. I'd put up with a few extra French Canadians to get their medical coverage and entertaining politicians.

Between MMA fights and loose morals of attractive french canadian women in La Belle Province...
you really can't go wrong there, it's a great place.

...can't tell how much of a panty remover it is with your women.

#73 | Posted by panchovilla at 2009-03-06 03:31 PM

And now you know why we hate the French! Ever see "My Name is Earl?" They had a French guy who came here for the women because his accent didn't work back home, "everyone talks like this there."

You must live far from Hollywood. I'd put up with a few extra French Canadians to get their medical coverage and entertaining politicians.

#75 | Posted by axe at 2009-03-06 03:35 PM

I live in Miami, or as I put it, New York with Spanish subtitles.

Sorry..this country is NOT filled with french..and most of us can't stand them as much as you folx.

Jubal - are you from the part of Canada that wears cowboy hats?

Jubal,

If you are wondering where all your French went, just come down to Hollywood, Florida and go the the beach anywhere between Harrison Street and Hallandale Beach Boulevard. You'll find them all sprawled out on the sand like a huge herd of beached whales in red Speedo thongs.

Condolences, Kanrei. I refuse to go south of 183rd street and only go that far because I like the mountain bike trails at Oleta River.

Your claim was that psychologists do not treat mental illness. I say that they do, and the study backs me up. Therapy works.

#68 | Posted by JOE at 2009-03-06 03:23 PM


Prove it.

Just because someone says they feel better, does not equate to being cured.

Just because someone says they feel better, does not equate to being cured.

Posted by Roy_Batty at 2009-03-06 03:51 PM | Reply

There is no such thing as a cure for mental illness. That being said it can be managed by going to head shrinkers. Joe is absolutely correct on this subject.

Larry

When I was in my 20's I was institutionalized at Marlboro Psychiatric Hospital. I had three different doctors and each one was afraid of me due to my violent outburts brought on by several voices in my head. I managed to escape and start a new life as Timmo an immigrant from Northern Europe.

When I was in my 20's I was institutionalized
#85 | Posted by timbci at 2009-03-06 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag: Explains everything.

Psychologists can have success in getting people to deal with issues affecting them, such as some types of depression. But I think mental illnesses that are caused by brain chemicals can only be treated by meds - which a psychiatrist can prescribe.

Depression can be chemical or just because you are on the outs... if its chemical, no amount of talking will get you out of it, its a physiological problem. Meds prescribed for anxiety that are lifestyle or circumstance related are probably not needed, when therapy (i.e. psychologist) can help them work out their issues...

There is no such thing as a cure for mental illness.
#84 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-03-06 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag: The voice of experience

There is no such thing as a cure for mental illness. That being said it can be managed by going to head shrinkers. Joe is absolutely correct on this subject.

Larry

#84 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-03-06 03:54 PM


Mental illness can be cure, and Joe is not correct when it comes to psychologists.
But if it makes you feel better, you can go ahead and believe he is.

"Prove it. Just because someone says they feel better, does not equate to being cured."

What the fuck. The same can be said for anything done by a psychiatrist. The point is that studies show that therapy helps, and that studies show a far greater likelihood of recovering from your symptoms when therapy occurs. So your claim that "psychologists don't treat mental illness" is just fucking wrong.

When I was in my 20's I was institutionalized
#85 | Posted by timbci at 2009-03-06 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag: Explains everything.

It explains nothing. The only time I do not hear voices is when I drink a bottle of Scotch and drive excessively fast down the Nj Turnpike. Get out of my way or I will run your ass over


There is no such thing as a cure for mental illness.
#84 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-03-06 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag: The voice of experience

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-03-06 04:00 PM | Reply


Least I ain't afraid to admit to it like so many others. Yes I suffer from depression. And Your point LoD??

Larry

And Your point LoD??

Larry

#92 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-03-06 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag: Just a joke, sheesh!

The first time I hit my psychiatrist it felt so good so I hit him again. I escaped thanks to the help form John Connors

It explains nothing. The only time I do not hear voices is when I drink a bottle of Scotch

#91 | Posted by timbci at 2009-03-06 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag: That clears it up.

What the fuck. The same can be said for anything done by a psychiatrist. The point is that studies show that therapy helps, and that studies show a far greater likelihood of recovering from your symptoms when therapy occurs. So your claim that "psychologists don't treat mental illness" is just fucking wrong.

#90 | Posted by JOE at 2009-03-06 04:02 PM


You're joking right?

You do realize that there are many, many tests that show what a Psychiatrist has done. Their work is documented by devices such as EEG's and PET scanners.

Larry,
There are cures for depression in many cases - cut out alcohol, drugs if any... increase physical activity, fresh air. Therapy, and if needed, meds...
often lifestyle ruts keep people in it, but light at the end of the tunnel is there...

Any dude that spells his name like a girl will most likely know about depression.

Larry,
There are cures for depression in many cases - cut out alcohol, drugs if any... increase physical activity, fresh air. Therapy, and if needed, meds...
often lifestyle ruts keep people in it, but light at the end of the tunnel is there...


alcohol helps with depression and so does sugar. When I get depressed I eat a box of ring dings and chase it down with Smithwick's. They I usually srat doing shots of blackberry brandy, sit in the sauna and lit up my farts

"You do realize that there are many, many tests that show what a Psychiatrist has done. Their work is documented by devices such as EEG's and PET scanners."

Studies also show that therapy causes changes in brain function similar to those produced by medication. I'd suggest you do a little reading. The ideal method of treatment is a combination of pills and therapy. Anyone who says psychologists don't treat mental illness is a fucking idiot who hasn't done their homework. Period.

Nope...no cowboy hats here..just fur hats and wool mitts,fast sleds,warm women,lotsa trees,and not enough beer.

Joe - define mental illness.
PTSD, sure a combo can help it - maybe even just therapy.
Bi-polar or schizo, probably gonna need meds.

I never said that anyone wouldn't need meds. The point is that psychologists treat some forms of mental illness, contrary to Roy Batty's moronic assertion. Whether it is done in conjunction with medication doesn't really change the fact.

"Libs should be out in force protesting this ruling. This is overt discrimination! If this head slicer was a Moooslum, it would be perfectly normal behavior, according to libs. All cultures are equal.
#36 | Posted by fwthom at 2009-03-06 09:48 AM |"

Don't worry about protecting your head. It's already gone.

Anyone who says psychologists don't treat mental illness is a fucking idiot who hasn't done their homework. Period.

#100 | Posted by JOE at 2009-03-06 04:15 PM


You know...

I've tried to keep the exchange of comments on a respectable level.

You seem very threatened by anyone who disagrees with you. And keep repeating yourself and throwing insults as if this will somehow make what you are saying true.

It doesn't. You are wrong.

And I will not discuss this any further, because you're a vulgarian and you offer no insight into your thesis.


Vulgarian..one who eats only vulgars?

Sorry..this country is NOT filled with french..and most of us can't stand them as much as you folx.

#79 | Posted by jubal_harshaw at 2009-03-06 03:41 PM | Reply |

Well, well. s'ok. out here in montreal, all are welcomed, except the small minded. Party on doug.

now that we know how it's done...time to start acting CRAZY!

#3 | Posted by nanc at 2009-03-05 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

What do you mean 'START'?

If ever an insanity defense was going to stick, I think this would be the case.

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