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Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Former GOP presidential nominee John McCain warned Wednesday that the United States is losing the war in Afghanistan. The Arizona senator, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that while he approved of President Obama's recent decision to send 17,000 more troops to the country, he believed an additional allied military and civilian surge would be necessary to prevent it from once again becoming an al Qaeda safe haven.

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Because bho is fucking up, that's why.

How can this be? During Chimpy's lesser known Mission Accomplished gaffe, he boasted that the Taliban was finished. As usual, the commander guy was spewing nonsense out of his Gannon-gaped ass.

On this occasion, Bush served up the usual rah-rah about the war on terrorism. But as he was hailing the U.S. military, he remarked, "Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda and put the Taliban out of business forever."

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Why do some people obsess so with Gannon?


Why do some people obsess so with Hans and Nulli?

#3 | Posted by goatman


FTFY

"Former GOP presidential nominee John McCain warned Wednesday that the United States is losing the war in Afghanistan."

Thanks John, but the rest of us have already known this for a while.

"I am not convinced that we're winning it in Afghanistan." and "Frankly, we are running out of time"
Adm. Michael Mullins - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - Sep 10, 2008

On this occasion, Bush served up the usual rah-rah about the war on terrorism. But as he was hailing the U.S. military, he remarked, "Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda and put the Taliban out of business forever."


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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2009-02-25 08:48 PM


Now, now, if you bring up facts and actual quotes you know you'll make them cry.

Why do some people obsess so with Hans and Nulli?

Something about train wrecks and morbid fascinations, I guess.

Your turn: Why do you obsess so with gannon?

Your turn: Why do you obsess so with gannon?

That name makes the necks of righty tighties turn bright red.

That name makes the necks of righty tighties turn bright red.

Oh. Is there some sort of unknown pleasure in turning people's necks red?

John Deere did that with their free ballcaps to the buyers of their tractors. No more cowboy style hats. Hence the term, 'redneck'.

Just in case that ever comes up on final Jeopardy.

4000 years and no outside influence has ever won a war in that area...take a hint!

The UN sez, America is losing.

I have a front row seat to this thing, and I said America is losing.

Now McCain sez, America is losing.

Wait for it, if you still don't believe. It will become more and more obvious as time passes.

he believed an additional allied military and civilian surge


Until every inch of the country is covered... until all the poppy has been accounted for... until the heroin trade is dead... until the drug-lords running the country have been disarmed... you don't have a chance.

17,000 people is nothing. Thee should be at least 300,000 Americans in Afghanistan if you want to have any chance of meeting your primary objective.

sez the biggest loser on the DR.


Sez a blue-collar pipe-fitter and conformed liar.

LOL

"John Deere did that with their free ballcaps to the buyers of their tractors. No more cowboy style hats. Hence the term, 'redneck'.

Just in case that ever comes up on final Jeopardy."

Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks.

Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks.

Posted by Custer at 2009-02-26 01:02 AM | Reply

Correct. I saw the same show.

Larry

As with the etymology of most words, there are several attributable sources.

The popular etymology says that the term derives from such individuals having a red neck caused by working outdoors in the sunlight over the course of their lifetime. The effect of decades of direct sunlight on the exposed skin of the back of the neck not only reddens fair skin, but renders it leathery and tough, and typically very wrinkled and spotted by late middle age. Another popular theory stems from the use of red bandanas tied around the neck to signify union affiliation during the violent clashes between United Mine Workers and owners between 1910 and 1920.

www.spiritus-temporis.com

Hopefully neither you nor I will have to argue with Alex Trebeck about it. *grin*

"Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks."

Yep.

findarticles.com

And thus the American Empire, having learned nothing from previous empires(Soviet Union/Alexander the Great/etc.), goes bankrupt in histories 'Graveyard of Empires'.

People don't fucking learn...

Yep.

findarticles.com

I know I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that the back of farmers' necks were getting sunburned before 1912.

Call it a hunch.

Oh, just fucking nuke the place already. Motherfucking warmongers.

Oh, just fucking nuke the place already

LOL. But there would go their historical claim to never being defeated or occupied.

McCain:

No shit Sherlock.

Bush started the war in Afghanistan and then completely ignored it while he focused, by choice, on Iraq. You've hardly uttered a word about Afghanistan for 6 years.

mccain is hasbeen trying to get his last 15 mins before he is put out to pasture.

mccain is hasbeen trying to get his last 15 mins before he is put out to pasture.

You reckon?

yes. I have read reports his next election cycle he will lose. The Dems are taking over.

The Dems are taking over

cool. I hope they do a good job.

I think the owners have had it with the theocracy fucking up the economy.

The Taliban (in their first innings), totally destroyed the heroin trade and poppy cultivation.

America.. hasn't. In fact, they can't.

So you can see right away who had/has more control.

McCain is right... hurtful though it may seem... America is going to lose. Unless a massive effort is made. Just sending 17,000 more people will do nothing except getting more of your people killed.

Send 300,000. And make me General-in-charge. ahahahahahaha

Send 300,000. And make me General-in-charge. ahahahahahaha

Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-26 01:52 AM | Reply

Make You in General-in-charge of the Latrines thats all Tosser.

Larry

Make You in General-in-charge of the Latrines thats all Tosser.


Only if I can order you to do the digging, that's all.

If making me General is not acceptable, why not make me King of Afghanistan? LOL

I mean, out of all you people here, I am the only one who might... just MIGHT... be acceptable to the population.

Think of it. Wouldn't you like to brag to your buddies that you exchange posts with a King?

I would make the DR the default page for all browsers in Afghanistan.

I'd much rather make Paul Ruebens King than You any day of the week Tosser. I wouldn't want someone that hated America as You do working for Me and My Government. You dig?? Pun Intended.

Larry

I mean, out of all you people here, I am the only one who might... just MIGHT... be acceptable to the population.

Wow. King of a nation of 11th century goatherders who still have a glazed look in their eyes when you show them a stick of deodorant or describe indoor toilets.

A bragging right we all strive for.

Screw the Afghans, Goatee...

I will only be King until everything is sorted out. Then I will retire with the Billions I would have looted from the American funds.

But you will get the DR as default page, so some good will come out of it.

I wouldn't want someone that hated America as You do working for Me and My Government.


But you had Bush for President, didn't you? LOL

I mean when it comes to being anti-American, the number Bush did on you, I can never do. I am not in his league.

Then I will retire with the Billions I would have looted from the American funds.

Somehow I'm not surprised you would be a looter. It fits in so well with the tough guy persona you cloak yourself in.

I'm impressed.

Screw the Afghans, Goatee

I wouldn't screw anything within 2000 miles of that part of the world

75.5 Billion mo'fo' Iraq. Obama's lies.

I didn't hire Dubya neither time so that blows that excuse of Yours out of the window. Oh and BTW Tell Me something. Why do Pakistani Medical Utencils IE FORCEPTS and the like rust faster than American made ones?? Is Pakistani Steel that shitty??

Larry

Re King: Not sure which hand to kiss....which hand is it that you folks use to wipe your ass?

Larry..yes it is..it is made from recycled ocean going ships..just like the Datsuns and Toyotas of the 70's and 80's were..high salt content in the steel...them vehicles rusted like nobodies business.

I didn't hire Dubya neither time


Perhaps not, but most Americans did... twice.

The point stands.. I can't be any worse than Dubya. Sure as Hell can't be as bad as Obama. LOL

And Goatee... stealing from American funds if a fashion and nobody can accuse me of being unfashionable.

which hand is it that you folks use to wipe your ass?

I think they actually tongue each other clean over there.

JH Thanks. So Pakistani goods are subpar then. Figures.

Tosser not true at all. Gore got more votes the first time around. The Supreme Court gave Him the first Selection. The Second Diebold did. So wrong yet again Tosser.

Larry

which hand is it that you folks use to wipe your ass?

We wipe with toilet paper... we wash with the left hand, if that's what you want to know.

You get to kiss the left hand.

So Pakistani goods are subpar then.


Just like Chinese goods, huh?

But you buy them anyway. LOL

Actually the steel is fine (as martial artists using our knives and swords attest). If you got a bum product, it is your fault for importing the cheapest one.

Gore got more votes the first time around.

But popular vote doesn't count according to our constitution. We use the electoral college to elect our presidents, Larry.

Tosser not true at all.

It is true. Americans put him in office twice. Either by cheating in the courts or cheating with the voting machines... I didn't put him there. Americans did.

Still, how much damage could I do? I certainly certainly can't be as bad as Bush, now can I?

That wasn't what Tosser said now is it Goatman. He said more Americans voted for Dubya and that is categorically incorrect. Or Do You not pay attention to what is typed Goatman. Do try and keep up.

Larry

He said more Americans voted for Dubya and that is categorically incorrect. Or Do You not pay attention to what is typed Goatman. Do try and keep up

I was saying the same thing as you, Larry. Do try to keep up. It doesn't matter if Gore got more of the popular vote. That doesn't matter since it is the electoral college that elects the president

"we wash with the left hand, if that's what you want to know."

How does that work? Applaud with one hand too?

Applaud with one hand too?

That's all tosser needs since his waking hours are spent spent patting himself on the back which of course requires only one hand. Whether it is shit covered or not, I don't pretend to know, though. The fact that he is so full of shit tends to make me think that some has to be leaking at least some of it out of at least four of five of his major body orifices and has to continually cleaned with one hand or the other, though.

Tosser..yes..Asian steel is some of the best...but the temptation of assembly line production forced a demand for quick steel in manufacturing,,,thus,,the recycled boat.

Still, how much damage could I do? I certainly certainly can't be as bad as Bush, now can I?

#50 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-26 02:45 AM | Reply | Flag

Osama bin Laden would have been better than Bush. There is no action Bush took that didn't benefit Osama and the terrorists. t's like he had a irect line to Osama's wish list, and considering his family connections and the debt owed to them---I can understand the 7 minutes sitting on his ass in that classroom.

Good. So we can all agree that we're definitely not going to win Afghanistan at the current troop levels.

Now, we need to ask ourselves as a country "what do we want to do"?

Ask yourselves this "DO we really care about the Taliban? I mean they only entered the picture because Bin Laden was paying them to stay on their land. Had we not gone after Al-Qaeda, the Taliban would not be in our vocabulary.

For the sake of some sort of victory, we need to tone down the anti-Taliban rhetoric and try to flip the Taliban in our favor (and their financial favor temporarily) in order to root out Al-Qaeda and finally kill/capture Bin Laden.

Please don't misconstrue my wanting to flip the Taliban with me approving of them. I certainly don't, but we need to ask ourselves if we want to go broke fighting them when Saudi Arabia treats their women the very same way. Al-qaeda needs to be the focus.

How does that work?

It works using a great thing called "soap and water". Perhaps you have heard of it? LOL

Tosser..yes..Asian steel is some of the best...but the temptation of assembly line production forced a demand for quick steel in manufacturing,,,thus,,the recycled boat.


As far as I know, where magnetic forces are used.. where things are made in Karachi... they use steel from ships. Like in electrical equipment. Otherwise, there is no shortage of any other kind of steel. Steel is cheap these days.

As for the rusting, none of my knives has ever rusted (neither have the katana swords in my teacher's collection), so that is that.

Why does he hate America?

I wouldn't want someone that hated America as You do working for Me and My Government.

And your true self is revealed.

A King, President, Prime Minister, Supreme Leader...whatever...should not be working for "Me and My Government".

He/She should be working for the benefit and welfare of their own people. Our president works for us, their president works for them.

A bragging right we all strive for.

A bragging right we could be moving towards. Might want to ask Tosser for the best ways to wipe your ass with your hand.

Why do Pakistani Medical Utencils IE FORCEPTS

I doubt it matters that your roach clip is rusting. Spark up another doobie and have a gallon of ice cream.

As for the rusting, none of my knives has ever rusted (neither have the katana swords in my teacher's collection), so that is that.

Mine have surface rust and it doesn't affect them at all. Knives are tools, just like guns are tools. Extensions of the body they are attached to. My knives are used enough that surface rust, even on the edge, doesn't affect it a bit. Occasionally, a little break free or Rem oil will take the surface rust off and make the blade pretty.

Swords are decoration. They have no usefulness other than to be used in martial arts demonstrations and hanging on walls.

Funny, he never voiced these concerns until now.

"Funny, he never voiced these concerns until now."

It's like this:

Before he was a patriotic, Gawd-fearing GOPiggy Amurican.

Now he's just another partisan hack.

Oh, and lest we forget, a cranky, nasty, bad-tempered, unstable old bastard who just got his ass whupped by the new guy on the block.

Actually, what is happening is that the civilian government of Pakistan is losing to the Taliban. The Taliban is using parts of Pakistan as a base of operations for causing trouble in Afghanistan. It starts with Pakistan. Which we are really powerless to do anything about. If we were to "invade" Pakistan, it would just fuel the Taliban in their ideological/religious war with the government of Pakistan. I don't see how we can easily win this one.

Wilson fixed this whole mess for $1 billion. All that was needed was a few more hundred million to clean up the mess that war left. But the minute the Russians moved out Congress abandoned those people and the Taliban moved into the power vacuum.

What will it cost now? Short sighted leadership is the rule.

The Taliban is using parts of Pakistan as a base of operations for causing trouble in Afghanistan.


Anything to make yourself feel better, I guess... "it's the other guy's fault!"

Slowly, this too will be obvious that no matter what happens in FATA (Pak tribal area), you are still going to lose in Afghanistan.

They don't need to hide in Pakistan anymore. They have reached a threshold inside Afghanistan and are now sustained and supplied from there.


Which we are really powerless to do anything about.


That's right, sugar. LOL

Swords are decoration.


At least two are real. One is made in Sialkot, Pakistan and is for real fighting... a cane-sword. The other is from Burma and was my teacher's teacher's sword.. got it from dead Japanese guy in WW2. Still shiny.

Anyway, I use WD-40 for my knives.


Why do some people obsess so with Gannon?

#3 | Posted by goatman

.......Bush's Monica Lewinsky.......

.....and Gannon had a real cigar for Bush to suck on......

Might want to ask Tosser for the best ways to wipe your ass with your hand.


Already explained.

It involves soap and water.

Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks.

Was that referring to the "Battle of Blair Mountain" by any chance? I knew they wore red bandannas but I've never heard that linked to the word redneck before. It's a real shame but the infamous Blair Mountain is currently in the process of being permitted for mountain top removal.

There is a lot of gays on this site, its all you think about.

#70 | Posted by JMFJ

You bet! There is NOTHING hotter than imagining George W. Bush in a sexually compromising position with a fake reporter/porn star.

Mmmmmmmmmmm!

"The UN sez, America is losing."

Like the UN would EVER miss an opportunity to use "America" & "losing" in the same sentence. Fuck the UN.

Any discussion about America & a military defeat should make McCain a hero to the left.

Mmmmmmmmmmm!
#72 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Nobody is that gay.
Well maybe the log cabin guys.

Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks.


FUNNY!

Watch the lefties spin themselves silly trying to figure out how to reconcile their hatred of rednecks with their love of all things union. You have made my morning!

Interesting article citing economic slump as cause for concern that it will encourage young men to join the militants. It sure would be better if Pakistan could provide electricity more reliably.

www.usatoday.com

Declare victory and bring 'em home. Or at least declare victory in Iraq and concentrate on Afghanistan.

Interesting article citing economic slump as cause for concern


Drama Queen of an article. It mentions Muridkay... LOL.

No cause for concern... except for America.


It sure would be better if Pakistan could provide electricity more reliably.


More nuke reactors and coal-fired power-plants on the way.

If any people become Taliban, we will simply send them into Afghanistan.

McCain may be lots of things, but he has served, unlike dandy-boy President. He knows what he is talking about.

Yer out.

He knows what he is talking about.

#79 | Posted by Tosser

Now if he could only remember it.

FF.... good one!

I'm not even gonna take the time to read the comments, so I'm probably repeating what someone just said. But WHY IS MCCAIN SAYING THIS? Um, isn't this what President Obama has been saying all along, since he was a candidate? His take on the War on Terror has long revolved around the idea that Afghanistan is the actual center of the war, NOT Iraq, and that we're not conducting the Afghanistan campaign right. Hm. Maybe McCain is just being, oh, a politician? *sigh* Ten years ago, I really liked McCain.

there is no center for war on terrorism-the enemy is not a country but an idea(islam should rule)this is what is continuely missed both by the foes and
proponents of the war-at least half of us do not know who or what we are fightin
jasman

This can't be the same John McCain who said the afghan war was a success years ago, which is why you never heard anything about it, can it?

That would make him a crazy man.

He knows what he is talking about.


#79 | Posted by Tosser


no one knows what they are talking about when it comes to war against the afghans

the enemy is not a country but an idea(islam should rule)


No... it is different things in different parts of the world.

In Iraq, it was "hurt the invader" and in Afghanistan, it is simply "get out of our face and let us sell our Heroin".

Maybe McCain is just being, oh, a politician?

John Desperately Speaking Relevancy McCain. Given the collapse of Piyush and Palin, he may think he still has a shot at 2012.

no one knows what they are talking about when it comes to war against the afghans


I meant, at least the dumroo seems to realize that his rice is not getting cooked.

As for how and why the Afghans fight and how and why they win... you are right. Only another Afghan or Pathan (ME ME!) can understand that.

I just ask the Afghan chai-walla where I get my breakfast parathas. LOL

Given the collapse of Piyush


Hahahahahaha... who the hell is this "Piyush"??? (Indian name)

Are you talking about Jindal?

I saw his speech on YouTube.

He's a joke.

Weren't people accused of giving "aid & comfort" to the enemy when they talked like this during the worst 8 years in American history .... eh, I mean The Bush Years?
I guess ol' jonnie boy is a traitor, loves the enemy, hates America ...blah , blah, blah,....
WHY do republicans hate America so much?

WHY do republicans hate America so much?

Because America voted for Obama, duh!

Was he standing on the Iraq/afghanistan border when he said this? Without Joementum's assistance, I'm surprised he can find his own front door.

Any one of them.

Hi, I'm John McCain, and I'm a hypocrite!

Hi, I'm John McCain, and I'm a hypocrite!

Someone should have leaked that Obama was sending another 100,000 troops to Iraq for the next hundred years, just to make McToast demand an immediate and total withdrawl from Iraq by the weekend.

If any people become Taliban, we will simply send them into Afghanistan.

#78 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-26 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

....or cave-in and allow them to take over the Swat Valley less than 100 miles from your capital.

allow them to take over the Swat Valley


"They" didn't take over Swat. We are giving the people there an Islamic system of courts so "they" won't have a chance of taking over.

The new courts will decide cases in less than 6 months and do away with fucking city lawyers.

I don't think you got the news right.

Swat Valley less than 100 miles from your capital.


It might as well be a thousand miles away. It is surrounded by mountains and pretty isolated.

The peace deal with the "taliban" in Swat has only been made AFTER the army took positions on the highest hills. Now we can target the whole valley.

What is this, transference? From Bush to the Obamaman?

"John Deere did that with their free ballcaps to the buyers of their tractors. No more cowboy style hats. Hence the term, 'redneck'.

Just in case that ever comes up on final Jeopardy."

Goatman


Er, ah, there was a documentary on History channel last year on the Union wars in West Virgina back in the 20s where the miners wore red bandanna to show their union solidarity, originating the term rednecks.

#15 | Posted by Custer at 2009-02-26 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag

Yep, I have read the whole thread yet but have to look and see if goatman admitted to his short comins.

Yep.

findarticles.com

I know I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that the back of farmers' necks were getting sunburned before 1912.

Call it a hunch.

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2009-02-26 01:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Too funny, the mans ego is so damn big it is amazing.

Too funny, the mans ego is so damn big it is amazing.

Commenting on the etymology of the word 'redneck' gives me a big ego?

Your social interpretations are odd to say the least. But they are funny.

BTW, tell us more about how the intakes of a jet can knock a man 50 feet away off of his feet. Or maybe the magical water soluble jet fuel. Or how consumers will choose to buy the higher priced product given a choice. LOL

Go back to wishing me ill and hoping that I lose all my retirement savings.. At least I know you are being honest for a change. LOL That's how grumpy and lonely men react to those who have a more fulfilling life than they do. LOL

Yep, I have read the whole thread yet but have to look and see if goatman admitted to his short comins.

According to you during your hate filled diatribes of yesterday, one of them is that I look after mysef and my family. According to you, I should be manipulating the economy or something in such a way that everyone will retire happily. But I'm not doing that, I just look out for me and my family. That's one of my shortcomings according you, runnysore.

But it's a shortcoming of mine you'll have to deal with. I refuse to share my retirement savings with you. You'll have to look out for yourself too, you lazy fuck. Quit expecting others to take care of you.

Just because I've made good retirement decisions and (it sounds like) you havn't, don't expect the rest of the world to cover for you and your pathetic shortcomings. You've had the exact same opportunties as I (probably more, aamof) so don't blame me if you've blown them.

However, unlike your attitude towards me, I do wish you well and hope that you can retire successfully and happily. But that's up to you, not me

If the bifg O sends over reinforcements as he has said he would, this shouldn't be a problem.

17K have recently been sent over, so just wait for the cavalry to show up and save the day.

I just wonder what his pull out plan will be and how well it's executed.

"why not make me King of Afghanistan? LOL

#31 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-26 02:01 AM"

Impossible. Kings nowadays have microwaves. And electricity.

Mr Magoo opens his squinty eyes and notices how bad Bush f**ked things up!

Nice going Poopy Pants!

Now go change yer diapers.

Kings nowadays have microwaves.


I have a microwave but I can't make myself put a baby in it like they do in America, I am afraid.

Guess that makes me a weak King, huh?

Weak anyway. "Pussboy" fits.

Pussboy" fits.


Whatever. I draw the line at killing people for oil.

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