Remove the Cuban embargo?

No, why should we? All that beautiful beachfront property, who needs it?

We should just sit back and play embargo and let Russia set up a military base in cuba, right here in our back yard, because, ya know, we are too stupid to know the difference.

Another 'america sticking our nose where it doesn't belong' policy failure.

Cuba would have dumped its communist system long ago had we not conducted such an idiotic policy all these years. We buy hundredsof billions worth of goods from China yet have an embargo on Cuba. Politics not foreign policy. Republicans have depended on right wing Cuban voters for decades but unfortunately many of the younger members of the Cuban American community are beginning to use logic instead of emotion when evaluating the situation.

Our embargo of Cuba has enabled Castro to stay in power for half a century.

It made the US responsible for the economic problems of Cuba. The embargo was Castro's best friend.

"It made the US responsible for the economic problems of Cuba."

No. Cubans grow up to be real adults with real brains just like us and while they can be affected by other people, they are mainly responsible for their own circumstances just like every other population on the planet.

Additionally, countries like the USSR/Russia and now China interfere with Cuba way may than we ever have so if you are going portray Cubans as hapless babies who aren't responsible for themselves you still can't pretend that the US is pulling the strings.

Additionally, countries like the USSR/Russia and now China interfere with Cuba way may than we ever have

#4 | Posted by Sully

Hello, do you think the USSR & China would come within 1000 miles of Cuba if we had good relations. Hell no they wouldn't.

I would propose an economic agreement to use Cuban sugar as the base ingredient for ethanol.

The embargo was a stupid act when it was implemented and is even more of a stupid act today. It needs to be eliminated asap.

One of the biggest factors which led to the collapse of the USSR was increasing exposure to Western goods and Western lifestyles. Same would happen in Cuba. If the Cuban govt decides to take action against that, they would face a revolt of the people. Don't think that they could survive it today.

Can you imagine what a paradise Cuba would be for the auto industry? And we could buy back those vintage '57 Chevy's they drive. And about those Cuban cigars...

Freud to Bill Clinton: "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Clinto to Freud: "Except when it's a dildo, Monica."

A Friend of mine leaves tomorrow For Cuba..I put my order in for a few cigars and a bottle of good Cuban demerarra rum...Ahh tis good to be Canadian.

Lift the emborgo. DO IT NOW.

"Lift the emborgo. DO IT NOW."

Okay, now I agree with you.

Hans

I'm great with lifting the embargo on Cuba but for gawd sakes don't ever make them a state or territory. They'd suck FEMA dry in any given hurricane season.

This is far over due, lift the embargo and we all prosper. Fine Cuban Cigars for everyone.

This site has been one revelation after another today. Now we learn that being the only major country to deprive itself of Cuban Cigars and Rum. Boy did that kill them. The only harm on them was put on by their leader Fiddle Castrator. Now it's Ruffle's time to slice and dice.

Figure it this way! Let's normalize relations, transfer our banking system down there since theirs is old and unwieldy, give them ten years to get used to it.

Then when they go bankrupt cause they know the system even less than we do, we'll have done our job. After all, since we don't have a firm grip on our financial banking system and how it works, how could we ever expect them to? Easy solution to a dificult problem.

Oh yeah, if you continue to blame the United States for everyone else's problems, go back where you came from and, if you came from here, get a LOBOTOMY. That shit is getting SSSSSOOOOO fucking old and stupid and is starting not to work any more.

No where does it say, 'We the Culprits, In Order To Form a More Perfect Union, Abrogate Our Responsibilities in This World To The Fools Who Will Follow Us --'

This country has paid the freight for every other one since our inception. We, of all countries have a right, to state our opinions in this world, right AND wrong and leave it to others to sort out which is which. Thru BLOOD and MONEY we have earned that right!

DOGEN-Got to get a little more support for that flagging ego. Just a small boost--NOT!

I don't know that it has failed. After all, the Cubans government claims that the reason its people are impoverished is because of the embargo. So, it has accomplished something.

I'm curious regarding the rationale behind the belief that but for the embargo, Castro would have been ousted? How would this have occurred?

Castro was very adept at suppressing dissent and imprisoning and torturing dissidents. What makes any of you think that he would have acted otherwise, or that someone could have ousted him and his regime?

Remember that Castro was fomenting unrest in a number of Latin American countries, and trying to export revolution. Why he even sent the thug murderer, Che Guevera out to Bolivia to organize there, although some believe he did it so Che would be offed and not detract from Castro's power.

When the large monetary and military support from the USSR failed, Cuba was left without a sugar daddy. They are not now an area player and should stop being pounded on. We can learn to live with the few products that Cuba can export to us and smoke it up or burn it in our cars. Now it is the people that are the ones being held ransom.

There are a large number of Cubans in Florida who had their property confiscated by Castro's revolution after which it was redistributed or nationalized.

When we open relations with Cuba, these people or their heirs will attempt to reassert their claim to their property, perhaps violently.

I think we should have never instituted the embargo, but solving the problem now is not as easy as just saying yes to Cuba.

A friend of mine, when he was a child, and his family, escaped from cuba, under the cover of darkness, when Castro took over.

His father owned a large sugar plantation and Castro and his men decided that they just loved that plantation, so they took it. His father had already made arrangements to flee and land in Miami.

Eventually the whold family ended up living in a slum in Newark NJ, broke and alone.

The father, being a man to make things happen, was never able to do anything except raise his 6 sons. They all become pretty successful and are able to modestly support the parents to this day. One of the sons is probably going to run for president of Nicaraugua someday, he is very wealthy and politically active.

The old man still sits and cries about what was taken from his ancestrial family. His youngest son, my friend, tells me his dad would personally kill Castro and his men, as a last living act, if he had the chance.

His youngest son, my friend, tells me his dad would personally kill Castro and his men, as a last living act, if he had the chance.

#21 | Posted by Lipzoidial at 2009-02-24 09:34 AM | Reply |

I'd personally bang Jennifer Love Hewitt if I had the chance. I'd personally jump the Grand Canyon in a Mr Softy truck if I had the chance. I'd personally eat every lobster in Maine if I had the chance.

The point is, your friends dad is a pussy. A stinky, Cuban, pussy.
I don't know the guy, but his sons sound like real assholes.

The embargo probably had a point during the Cold War, but those days are over. There are a lot of ties between the US and Cuba, whether they are official or not. Lift the embargo a piece at a time and see what happens. If the Cubans respond in a positive manner, lift another piece. If they don't then we get to say we acted in good faith. The Western Hemisphere has a lot of potential for growth, is in our own back yard, and have a lot more in common with the folks south of the border than we do with China or the Middle East. India is seen as an emerging powerhouse, but Brazil and Argentina have a lot of potential as well.

Republicans have depended on right wing Cuban voters for decades but unfortunately many of the younger members of the Cuban American community are beginning to use logic instead of emotion when evaluating the situation.

#2 | Posted by danni

The only reason the younger cuban comunity is going dem is because they see all the FREE things the dems will give hem. Logic, well yes in that way. Why work when i can sit on my ass and have the governement pay for my shit.

The only people not trading with Cuba is USA.

Shit, it only took him 50 years to figure that one out. I guess he isn't the shinning light at the end of the tunnel.

The point is, your friends dad is a pussy. A stinky, Cuban, pussy.
I don't know the guy, but his sons sound like real assholes.

#22 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Right, and there are a lots of Cubans, that were very brave....and are currently dead. Dead doesn't help anyone except the enemy. They forget to teach that point in brainwashing military school.

Do you never get tired of this hate game? I know it moves the conversation along, but it makes you look like an idiot. As bad as I hate to admit it, I do not believe you are as much of an idiot as you pretend to be. but otoh, to insecure people, negative attention is better than no attention at all.

so here's your negative attention, fuckface. enjoy.

I would love to visit Cuba. I understand they have the finest reefs in the Carribean.