Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Islamic law is being imposed in parts of Pakistan. The government agreed to implement Islamic law across a large swath of northwest Pakistan on Monday in a concession aimed at pacifying a spreading Taliban insurgency.

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Seriously looking for Tosser's take on this and for more information as he is the only Paki we know here.

Swat should be SWATted.

I beleive on another thread Tosser said either al-queda or Taliban were mostly wiped out in Pakistan.

He probably said Al Queda. You have to love the Taliban now having access to nukes, huh?

I beleive on another thread Tosser said either al-queda or Taliban were mostly wiped out in Pakistan.
posted by Briwo

Being that Al-Queda/Al-Qaida is likely a fictional group you would be referring to the Taliban. I just watched a piece on
60 Minutes last night about the Taliban in Pakistan. It's worth checking out.

I wonder which country will undertake a preemptive strike to destroy Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. Will it be India? China? Russia? The United States?

Story developing.

Dfiant, thanks I'll check the link. After 8 yrs of Bushco using Al-Queda/Taliban interchangeably, it's hard to keep track sometimes.

Dudes... you have it all wrong.

I am a but busy now... will come back and explain everything in detail.

But trust me, it's all good.

Ookay... what seems to be the problem?

It seems you guys are worried by the words "Islamic Law" and "Taliban". Otherwise, you have no idea what we did.

Am I right?

Well of course I am right.

First of all.. these guys in Swat are not Taliban. They may call themselves taliban (or others may call them taliban), and they may get their weapons from Afghanistan, yet their beef goes back before there had been any "taliban".

As for "Islamic Law"... nothing wrong with that. Do keep in mind we are not talking Saudi style or Iranian style. We are talking something totally different and something we all agree with so far.

Next question, please.

I will explain in further detail, if you want.

But first tell me what has got you so spooked?

Oaky.

What's it like being the citizen of a third world nation so fundamentally weak and archaic that it has to re-write the law of the land in order to appease the 6th century sentiments of citizens on its frontier?

Personally, I'm hoping you get your clitoris chopped off with a rock.

re-write the law of the land

Nothing is being re-written.

Pakistan's Constitution allows different places to have their own legal systems and laws if they all vote for it.

Well... I guess the kiddies here are too afraid or something to listen to what I further have to say....

Pity.

But first tell me what has got you so spooked?

I don't think anybody's "spooked", Kahn.

Let's get a little perspective here.

Its more of a morbid curiousity at the sheer civic incompetence of people in that part of the world.

I mean Jesus Christ.

Jane Goodall documented ape tribes with a more highly evolved legal and social structure than Pakistan.

Pakistan's Constitution allows different places to have their own legal systems and laws if they all vote for it.

I see.

That goes along ways towards explaining why Pakistan is the vibrant, powerful nation-state entity it is----blazing a path into the 21st century.

You ARE spooked judging from your reactions (I am including all on the thread).

I fail to see what the big deal is.

Does anyone what to know WHY this is a great thing or not?

I guess not, but I am asking anyway.

TOSSER

Excuse my naivete 'cause I admit I don't really know very much about the situation between Pakistan and the United States. It seems so fluid.

I know I keep hearing that Pakistan is on the verge of becomming the new "hot spot" (from the U.S. point of view) in the midddle east and I, for one, would like to hear your take on that.

"Hot spot" to me means that there will eventually be some kind of military action between our two countries.

What direction do you see this going?

in the midddle east

Pakistan is "in the Middle East"???

News to me...

What direction do you see this going?

One more loser (Obama) might try and blame others (Pakistan) for the fact that Afghanistan is lost to NATO and US because they put corrupt drug-lords in charge (Karzai)... It won't help him at all.

It is up to America to decide how many of their people they want dead in Afghanistan. That too for a lost and useless cause.

TOSSER

Excuse my faux pas. I was referring to the volatility of nearly everything in your part of the world.

I was asking a serious question. I wish you'd given a better response.

But thanks anyway.

I wish you'd given a better response.

Calling Pakistan as being part of the Middle East will guarantee a curt answer from any Pakistani, not just myself.

Saying that, tells me that whatever I say, you will not understand.

And no, I wasn't exaggerating.

Obama can call Pakistan a hot spot all he likes. Eventually he will have to face the fact that he has lost in Afghanistan.

Remember I have seen it all before. You are where the Russians were 2, 3 years before they got kicked out.

I was here. I saw it all. And whatever you are doing is no different. I get the same feel when I talk to the Afghans I find here.

Everyone with any military knowledge has told me that sending in 30,000 more Americans will not change anything. In fact it will only put more of your people at risk.

The supply lines just can't support that many.

btw

the nukes are in the hands of the pakistani military.

not in the hands of any government officials like in the usa.

as unstable as the pakistani government is

the pakistani military is stable.

which is why military coup has happened several times in the country.

as far as islamic law is concerned in these tribal areas.

some law is better then no law.

eventually once the "wild west" is tamed islamic law will be replaced by pakistani secular law.

but it takes baby steps

killing off a major number of your own people isn't usually the best practice of a government

#28 | Posted by klifferd at 2009-02-17 10:09 AM

Thanks Kliff. I should have known better than to think Tosser would talk about this in a way to inform us rather than offend us. He took this as an attack rather than an attempt to get information from someone in the area.

I am very concerned with Taliban getting access to nukes and you answered that.

It's so much easier to blame a whole culture for evil rather than facing the possibility that evil exists in every culture.

What scares people is that this story used all the 'scary words' that americans have been pre-programmed to fear, 'Islamic, Pakistan, Afganistan, Sharia Law, Taliban, al Queda.

If those things are not scary, and if they are not an imminent threat to US security, then we have killed millions for oil, plain and simple. Or we have killed millions for nothing.


kanrei

no problem

the pakistani military officers are all trained via the british military or the us military.

they are extremely western in their views, opinions, and procedures.

unlike the pakistani government officials
such as the loser who is currently president, zardari. lame duck has a new meaning when he is concerned.

He took this as an attack rather than an attempt to get information from someone in the area.

I may be in the same country but not in the same area... more like a thousand miles away. LOL

As for giving you a straight answer, I was waiting for you to show up to ask you exactly what you wanted to know.

I am certainly not going to talk nice to every idiot that comes along seeing they aren't going to understand anything anyway.

Pakistan's Constitution allows different places to have their own legal systems and laws if they all vote for it.

But in this case, someone was threatened with a be-heading, no votes cast here...

BTW,

Things are about to change in afghanistan's southern area. We are basically going into the middle of the taliban's homeland and we are going to kick their asses. Expect to get alot more taliban moving(more like running) into Pakistan in the next six months.

What you probably want to know is:

1. Yes, Pakistan's nukes and other stuff is super secure.

2. The Islamic laws in that area are not a new thing. You might have the impression that it will be something awful... no such thing.

That area was once ruled by the nawab of Swat. He had a very effective legal system (more than the one the rest of Pakistan has). If you had a case in one of his courts, it would decided in weeks.. not in 20 years.

So in 1970-something, we did the stupid thing and took away that beautiful traditional legal system and replaced it with the stupid British legal system where only your lawyer keeps getting rich.

Now we have promised to give them their old system back. That is what everyone wanted and that will cut off the support for the troublemakers in the area.

It might be called "islamic law" (and it is) but all that is happening is they are getting their old system back.

Happy?

Now we have promised to give them their old system back.

Actually, that is also happening in afghanistan as well.

I wonder if pakistan will accept the penalty of beheading with this type of islamic law?

But in this case, someone was threatened with a be-heading, no votes cast here...

Rubbish.

The person who is creating all that trouble will now hopefully be isolated by his father-in-law (who he tried to kill). This was Sufi-whatever's (see pic) demand that we give them their old legal system back... and that they be allowed to drive on the right hand side of the road. LOL

We are basically going into the middle of the taliban's homeland and we are going to kick their asses.

Where have I heard that before....? LOL

I wonder if pakistan will accept the penalty of beheading with this type of islamic law?

As far as I know, Swat didn't have beheading in it's legal system.

Where have I heard that before....? LOL

I have always said afghanistan has a better chance for peace than Iraq. Things have changed alot in afghanistan since I was there in 07. I just got back from a short trip there and I was suprised at what I saw. If the U.S. can tame the south, the taliban will be dealt a death blow.

Does this mean that rape is going to decriminalized again?

I'm reading Bear Trap from your link the other day, Tosser. Turning out to be interesting.

As far as I know, Swat didn't have beheading in it's legal system.

The same thing is happening in the north of afghan. The tribal leaders are being allowed to implement their own brand of law, which is of course different and less lethal from what the taliban want...

Now every court case will have to be decided within 6 months. And no lawyer can get rich as he/she pleases. I think lawyers are treated like a disease in their legal system.

Now every court case will have to be decided within 6 months.

We need this for our death penalty cases...

Gotta go back to work guys...I will check this thread later tonight...

If the U.S. can tame the south, the taliban will be dealt a death blow.

You will have to take out or control all poppy in Afghanistan for that to happen.

You will have to take out or control all poppy in Afghanistan for that to happen.

You are correct. Now that I think about it, the taliban cannot be wiped out without that happening. Cut off the money, you cut off the head (no pun intended) of the organization.

back to work I go..

We need this for our death penalty cases...

Pakistan's British legal system.... which people, including myself, think of as a curse... is backed up to the eyeballs with cases that never seem to end.

Swat was a success story before we ruined it in the 1970s. They had justice. You could represent yourself in court (try that in Karachi and you are done for) and WIN. That is because the judge was trained to look out for the little guy.

Maybe it will be like this again.

All of this brouhaha is over using lawyers or not?

I don't think so--

How is this "process" going to move folks forward?

They just recently blew up 32 girls' schools.

Good grief--five steps + backward.

They just recently blew up 32 girls' schools.

Their leader Mulla Fazlula can only be stopped by his father-in-law who, though a crackpot, was respected by everyone.

Father-in-law wanted something he could tell the people he could deliver. So we gave him his old legal system back.

Now the people who might have hid Fazlulula's men or given them food and water and ammo, will say, "why the fuck should we support you any longer, dude. It's your father-in-law who support, seeing he delivered on his promise".

It is as simple as that.

Isolate. Let them get rid of our rotten British law.

All of this brouhaha is over using lawyers or not?

Yes.

Giving them what they have been shouting for since the last 30 years ought to take the wind out the sails of the troublemakers.

Pakistan enacts Sharia Law in the SW Frontier fer the first time EVAR?

Man, sometimes the writing on the wall is ALL IN CAPS, aint it?

It is up to America to decide how many of their people they want dead in Afghanistan. That too for a lost and useless cause.

Canada is out of Afghanistan by 2011.

The Taliban are, like it or not, a home grown insurgency and thus only have to survive to WIN.

They must be dealt with by bringing them to the negotiation table.

Just randomly swatting at them only makes them madder and more committed to their cause of making Afghanistan the "Graveyard of Empires" once again.

In Spud opinion, Tosse, Afganistan was only marginally about "getting the guys who did 9/11".

It's more important raison d'etre is to provide an excuse to carry on with the lumbering "Pentagon System". The one that spends insane amounts of public monies annually on Military expenditures. Secondary to that goal is putting the opium production in the Hellemond province back into the hands of the CIA after the Taliban made serious efforts towards eradicating it.

Of course, Deth is an incredibly cynical Spud.

This political victory in Pakistan ensures that the Taliban cannot be conquered and must be dealt with diplomatically.

Be Well.

There is a guy who I regard as an expert. He runs a think-tank called "Brasstacks"... Mr.Zaid Hamid.

He came on TV and cursed the President and explained how not giving them a simple legal system is going open a hole in our boat.

A week later, President Zardari signed it.

The President is an incompetent fool. The only way he works is if someone pressures him.

He was being pressured by the Americans since many months now not to sign the Swat law. But when finally when local media pressure started mounting, he moved the other way.

Bastard weather cock.

Pakistan's Constitution (unlike India's) allows for different legal systems. When it is in there as a safety feature, one would be stupid not to take advantage of it.

"I have always said afghanistan has a better chance for peace than Iraq."

Afghanistan is ruled by warlords. They are consolidating their position daily and we are allowing it as the lesser of two evils. Plus, there isn't much we can do about it. At least, that is the analysis of our military in Afghanistan.
I guess that is "peace".

This is what happened after Russia left--the crazy bullshit rolled in and took over.

Then 9/11...

"This is what happened after Russia left--the crazy bullshit rolled in and took over."

Who do you think the Russkies were blasting?
Oh, right, jihadists the U.S. called "freedom fighters."
And who do you think was footing the "freedom fighters'" bill?

Pakistan's Constitution (unlike India's) allows for different legal systems.

wouldnt that make these tribal regions separate countries?

Frankly I don't care if Pakistanis choose Sharia Law to rule themselves or any other law for that matter. I would like to see principals of human rights as the basis for all legal systems, but if one group rather ban girls from going to school, or showing their faces, oh well.. whacha gonna do?
Just so long as you aren't planning crimes against civilians over here. If you are, then obviously, foreign powers will take an interest (i.e. bomb you).
The biggest joke is how Pakistan claim attacks in SWAT and NWFP as a violation of their sovereingty. Given the areas are outside of their control, they have no sovereignty to claim.

So? They can do whatever the fuck they want.

Why would anyone here fucking care?

That's right, Minigash!

So long as you got yer American Idol and Mountain Dew, fuck them Ay-rabs.

I am supposed to concern myself with Pakistani Law?

Why in the fuck would I bother to concern myself with such a thing?

Why would anyone in this county?

That would make me as pathetic as a guy named Jeff from Denmark.

wouldnt that make these tribal regions separate countries?

No.

Like Hong Kong has a different legal and political system, yet is part of China.

It is done in other places. And like I said, it was this way before 1970 anyway.

but if one group rather ban girls from going to school, or showing their faces

THAT is not part of the deal. And they have agreed to that.

Pakistan claim attacks in SWAT

What ARE you talking about???

Given the areas are outside of their control, they have no sovereignty to claim.

Well then, go ahead and send your troops inside Pakistan. What's stopping you? LOL

I am supposed to concern myself with Pakistani Law?

Why in the fuck would I bother to concern myself with such a thing?

Why would anyone in this county?

That's what I want to know. What business is it of yours?

This thread is because Kanrai had some nightmare, is all.

Tosser,

Ok so beating on schoolgirls will not technically be illegal, according to your understanding of the "deal".

Any idea how the agreed legal framework will address the investigation and filing of charges against those who take it upon themselves to intimidate would be female students?

Give me a break - Sharia law will turn a blind eye to the excesses that it officially will not sanction, but will do little to prevent.

This thread is because Kanrai had some nightmare, is all.

#62 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-17 03:45 PM |

No Tosser. It was because I heard of Islamic law being put into parts of Pakistan and I know you live there and was concerned about you. Did you not read this part:I have fought with him many times here, but this is horrible and I hope he will be OK, so Tosser, please post in this thread.

Sorry for showing concern for another human being I have shared words with. I will not make that mistake in regards to you again, I promise.

Pakistan claim attacks in SWAT

What ARE you talking about???

-- I am talking about the whining Pakistan does every time a US missile from a drone hits a group of people in SWAT. Complaints that it violates their sovereignty, which they can't enforce locally anyway.

The Taliban in Swat have executed dozens of government employees, including policemen, and people they accused of indulging in "un-Islamic" activities. They have banned the education of girls and bombed or torched nearly 200 schools in the valley.

The militants, who control most parts of Swat, have also banned the playing of music in public transport and barred barbers from shaving beards.

got to love the savage man

Another victory in the so-called "War on Terra".

Ok so beating on schoolgirls will not technically be illegal

No, it will be illegal. I made that clear.

Give me a break - Sharia law will turn a blind eye

No, give ME a break. Swat is only being taken back to it's original legal system. No such things were allowed to happen under their own system.

It is our British law that is too slow to deal with militancy.

every time a US missile from a drone hits a group of people in SWAT.

Never happened in Swat.

I will not make that mistake in regards to you again, I promise.

I can do without your "concern", thanks.

Complaints that it violates their sovereignty, which they can't enforce locally anyway.

Well, it just got enforced. LOL

The militants, who control most parts of Swat, have also banned the playing of music in public transport and barred barbers from shaving beards.

They are the ones who will be marginalized because this new act the President signed.

Now the locals have no reason to support them.

And no, they don't control most of Swat.

Swat will become a tourist attraction like before.

Of course the fighting won't go down immediately, but now it can't keep going either.

Of the Americans here that are concerned with this, how does your thought process differ on this thread:

Should World Vote in US Election?

Should Americans vote on Pakistani Law?

Should Americans vote on Pakistani Law?

British Law (also known as "Pakistani Law").

Swat is a tiny tiny area (look it up on a map) that just wants to dump British Law for their on old Swat Laws (Islamic in nature).

The main advantage is that they will decide cases of terrorism (for example) in days and weeks, instead of years. Very effective.

And, yes, good point you made. I don't want to vote in any American elections... why should an American be interested in things here?

I can do without your "concern", thanks.

#70 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-17 04:04 PM

You are just a miserable person, huh? No sense of human decency or compassion anywhere within you.

Hopefully, we should be wise enough to give all the other border areas their own legal systems (some already do).

Hell I would like a new legal system and shoot my fucking lawyer. He is my dad's lawyer actually, which is why he is still around, the old bastard....

You are just a miserable person, huh?

No, I am quite ecstatic.

No sense of human decency or compassion anywhere within you.

Not when it comes to you, no.

Get it through your head. WE ARE NOT BUDDIES.

Yeah?

Kan,
They're like stray beaten dogs. They even smell like them.

Get it through your head. WE ARE NOT BUDDIES.

Yeah?

#76 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-17 04:28 PM

Never thought we were for a moment. I did not realize we were enemies however. I don't have to like someone to show compassion or concern, that is called being a human being. When you hear of bad news, it is common for people to express concern for others in the area. You can be a prick all you want, but your actions do not influence mine. I would be concerned for you if this news broke tomorrow just as I was when it broke yesterday.

Have a nice day Tosser.

When you hear of bad news

Bad news??? What "bad news"?

If you still don't get it, you never will.

That's what I don't like about you. You seem disingenuous.

They're like stray beaten dogs. They even smell like them.

Sez a person known as ChairPoodle. LOL

I did not realize we were enemies however.

Not enemies either, so cut the drama queen act.

You just don't get to share my milkshake. Not that kind of a pal.

That's what I don't like about you. You seem disingenuous.

That is not true in the least. You don't like me because I am Jewish and that is the sum total of it. You have admitted to that on other threads in the past, so why try to take some kind of moral high road now? You are hysterical. I thank G-d for Klifferd or else people here would think you represent Islamic beliefs.

And yes, bad news. A spreading Taliban insurgency is bad news. A government caving into the demands of religious extremists is bad news. You could have tried to inform us if we were wrong instead of living up to every belief about Pakistan and Islam, but you are not looking for peace with anyone.

No sense of human decency or compassion anywhere within you.

Not when it comes to you, no.

#76 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-17 04:28 PM

That made us enemies Tosser. NO drama queen act.

A spreading Taliban insurgency is bad news.

Well, if you insist, it certainly is bad news for the Americans next door.

As for Swat, this will end the Taliban insurgency.

I have lived when the courts were far more "islamic" than today (in the 80s) and it didn't make a difference in my life at all.

The Swat version of "islamic" law is supposed to be much better and balanced.

You don't like me because I am Jewish

And because you are disingenuous.... I just figured that out.

but you are not looking for peace with anyone.

I sure wish the worst for the US in Afghanistan, that is true.

That made us enemies Tosser.

Ooooo... are you going to sic Mossad on me?

And because you are disingenuous.

I have no reason to deceive you Tosser, that would imply I care what you think. I was honestly concerned for you and that is the truth. I don't care if you believe me or not and I promise you I will never make the mistake of giving a rat's ass for you again.

are you going to sic Mossad on me?

I am not Israeli Tosser, I'm American.

I will never make the mistake of giving a rat's ass for you again.

THANK YOU!

Sheesh....

I sure wish the worst for the US in Afghanistan, that is true.

Why is that?

Because we found 3 dead uncircumcised "taliban" in Swat.

Indians.

Lets not kid ourselves. We all know the games being played by everyone.

The troublemaker in Swat... the guy blowing up schools... has Indians working for him and is using weapons from Afghanistan.

LOL.

Do you think we are deaf, dumb and blind???

In the end you get the ally you deserve.

Keep watching.

So you're saying that there are Indian terrorists in Swat, working as "Taliban" mercenaries, using American weapons meant for Afghanistan?

Huh?

Kanrei, I hope you realize that no matter how much you explain to people like Tosser, they will always first and foremost look at you as a Jew. And that will undermine anything you have to say in their eyes. So what if you haven't been in a Temple in twenty years? So what if you have never been to Israel? So what if you sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians on many issues? Once people like Tosser hear that you were born of Jewish parents, the conversation is over.

This is something I have genuinely learned over the last few years here on the DR. Being Catholic and having no prior special consciousness of anti-semitism I was previously unaware of the phenomena. But when I read the posts of people like Tosser or JnD it is apparent.

moder8

thats not true

tosser is here for one reason
entertainment

i'm a muslim
and i have pakistani origins

and i like kanrei

so you can't generalize like that

btw this thread went from serious to ludacris speed.

So you're saying that there are Indian terrorists in Swat, working as "Taliban" mercenaries

He is being supplied with weapons by the Afghan secret service. And who is in charge of THAT?

Connect the dots.

Klifferd, the point is, even if you personally are not anti-semitic or close minded, that does not translate to Tosser or JnD et al not being anti semitic nor close minded.

moder8

i understand and agree

Thank the Bush administration for allowing the Taliban to survive long enough to profit from the afghan opium fields.

Call it the Bush parting shot.

Now they have a country with nuclear weapons, and will blame Obama for it.

I wish that whole general area would settle down and get back to making more really nice carpets.

Their hashish is outstanding, as well.

dawn.net

dawn.net

I wish that whole general area would settle down and get back to making more really nice carpets.

Unfortunately they don't make the flying kind anymore.

Their hashish is outstanding, as well.

This, however, will make you think you're flying if you're sitting on a carpet. Or a couch.

The only problem is when you've got a bit of hash sprinkled in your hookah, it's quite easy to knock over the whole mess because you're stoned and stupid, and then your carpet gets nice little pits in it from the coal.

Because we found 3 dead uncircumcised "taliban" in Swat.

.......#88 | Posted by Tosser

......what were you doing playing with their cocks ?.......

......what were you doing playing with their cocks ?......

Easy test. You make people take their pants off. Uncut penis guy is a spy.

Amazing how many RAW agents have been caught this way.

Well,

If the Paki's gave the Taliban the Swat Valley it wont be there long. Obama bombed Pakistani in 3 days. it wont be long until swat is swated.

If the Paki's gave the Taliban the Swat Valley it wont be there long. Obama bombed Pakistani in 3 days. it wont be long until swat is swated.

Bush gave Afghanistan to the Taliban. And Afghanistan is still there..... LOL

Will O'baba bomb Afghanistan too in 3 days?

"And no, I wasn't exaggerating.
Obama can call Pakistan a hot spot all he likes. Eventually he will have to face the fact that he has lost in Afghanistan.

Remember I have seen it all before. You are where the Russians were 2, 3 years before they got kicked out.

I was here. I saw it all. And whatever you are doing is no different. I get the same feel when I talk to the Afghans I find here."

We are not fighting the same war in afghanistan as the Russians were... Everyone seems to forget that We were attacked by people being hosted by the taliban... Reading the typical Anti War Press as useual? If you actually believe that the US is losing the war in afghanistan to the taliban then you need to take a reality check... Maybe you should talk to the generals running the war... Not one has stated that we are losing the war... The press has stated that. Just like we Lost the war in Iraq.... What needs to happen here is that push needs to come to shove.. The world needs to be reminded of what power can do to a third world fighting force.. We have been holding back on these idiots for years now... I say send in the 30,000 troops and bring back the B-52 raids and the whole nine yards...

You can take your 11th century Islamic laws and stick them where the sun don't shine... The fact that you people let the words of that Murderer Mohammed run your lives, is living proof of how stupid and backward you are... In the early 1800's here in America, American Indians were basically living a caveman level existence.... They live in houses today and they don't prey to rocks and clouds anymore. You people need to burn that stupid book and evolve into the 21st century... What you all seem to have lost touch with is the fact that we have THOUSANDS of Nukes..... Not one.... Not Six...... THOUSANDS.... The problem with having a big stick and not using it is that the smart asses in the room sooner or later cause you to swing it... Islam sucks... There are no Virgins in heaven for you...... Mohammed was a retarded murdering bastard rapist scumbag... Your religion is crap and you will all eventually die in a big FLASH!

My my... "you you, me me, God Bless America.. bla bla... puke puke" (translation: I am afraid)

Well... you can yell and scream and bang your head against the walls... it won't help your people in Afghanistan. LOL

Think nice thoughts now!

we have THOUSANDS of Nukes

And you are STILL a bunch of losers.

Imagine that. LOL

History repeats itself.

I saw it before and I am seeing it again.

The Russians were better soldiers than your burger-flippers. And they were better armed with more robust supply lines.

And they still lost.

You are headed for History's trashcan faster than they were.

Sorry... but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

And they were better armed with more robust supply lines.

#110 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-02-19 03:52 PM | Reply

You are one stupid caveman.

You are one stupid caveman.

Why ChairPoodle? Just because you can't face the truth?

I thought you belonged to the land of the brave?

Dummy,
Nobody believes the 1980's russians, let alone today's russians, are better armed that the US Military.

You've been swatted again, and there's no reason to continue kicking you around.

See, ChairPoodle... the Soviet Union had a common border with Afghanistan.

OF COURSE they had more of everything. They could just walk across their border with all their stuff.

Unlike your people with your malfunctioning supply.

.... tch tch tch....

You've been swatted again, and there's no reason to continue kicking you around.

Poodle's Doggy delusions... woof woof.

I am sorry ChairPoodle. You are no where near to what the Russians were when they were shooting up Afghanistan.

They could get whatever equipment they needed when they needed.

And the Russians still lost.

I am sure you are too dumb to get it. But most everyone else understands. I hope.

"Better armed" has a definition. Just own your stupidity.

"Better armed" has a definition.

Better armed in the Afghan theater, they were. They had flexible logistics.

And I thought you just ran away, Poodle.... back so soon?

Poodle doesn't get it.. Poodle doesn't get it... LOL

How are the Taliban kicking anyone's ass, Tosser?

A foreign power drove them out and has held their capital city for years (while half-assing the whole war, btw). Their influence is a fraction of what it was.

Sure, eventually we'll leave because our mission over there has taken on idiotic proportions when it should have been just a punitary expedition. But that will be due to problems of our own creating that have nothing to do with the pathetic Taliban. And really, the Russians left for reasons that had little to do with the Afghanis too.

Are you lot really so used to having your asses handed to you that you consider being scattered and made to hide in the dark like cockroaches in your own countries to be "victory"?

LOL. Our burger flippers kill 50 of your best guys for every casualty they take.

Our burger flippers kill 50 of your best guys for every casualty they take.

And yet you still lost 75% of the country.

You know how that is? Because Amreekan burger-slippers kill Afghan women and children and count them as "taliban" to get a higher body-count. LOL

And how are they "my best guys"??? I am not from Afghanistan, you know.

Never send a burger-flipper to do a soldier's job...

It is a pity, it is a pity... LOL

You know what's funnier than a burger-flipper holding a gun?

A burger-flipper in a body-bag!

hahahahahahahahaa.... where do I come up with them? LOL

"And yet you still lost 75% of the country."

See, this just shows what losers you are.... It's not our fucking country, yet we "lost" it! As if you expect to be dominated. The Taliban can't stop foot in 25% of their own country. Yet they are "kicking ass". ROFLOLOL Bizarro world.

The situation over there is bad for the US because the "democracy" mission is idiotic. Unless Bushco ws secretly part of the Taliban, you can't credit the Taliban for our problems.

"And how are they "my best guys"??? I am not from Afghanistan, you know."

They are fighting for the cause with which you sympathize.

It's not our fucking country, yet we "lost" it!

The Taliban control 75% of Afghanistan.

The United Stated Burger-flippers have lost all that territory to their enemy... the one that they had sworn to get rid of.

The UN sez so.

They are fighting for the cause with which you sympathize.

Oh no... I don't sympathize with the Afghan cause at all!

I just want them... and you... to fuck each other so bad, neither can walk in a straight line.

The Taliban can't stop foot in 25% of their own country. Yet they are "kicking ass".

Oh.. they never go for outright victories.

I explained that elsewhere.

That is how they got the Russians. Death from mosquitoes.

You can't kill a mosquito with a gun.

Do you smell as bad as the rest of those people over there tosser?

Isn't there something the people in that region can do about their strong body odor?

Is it true they smell that way because they wipe their assses with their bare hands?

Do you smell as bad as the rest of those people over there tosser?

Is it true an Amreekan smells like a urinal?

Anyway... try and think of a way to save your burger-flippers from crawling into body-bags. You know how they like it in there.

All I get from the street American, is anger, frustration and fear of the future. (see this thread, specially the last few posts)

Don't you people have any other emotions? LOL

How do you expect to get an erection when you are so tensed up and frustrated?

"The United Stated Burger-flippers have lost all that territory to their enemy... the one that they had sworn to get rid of."

LOL. When did we ever claim possession of territory? We've had conflicting goals over there but holding territory has never been one of them. Do you really believe this nonsense?

If you want to say we failed at our mission to install a democratic govt, I'd agree. Using the military for a non-military goal is doomed to fail.

But don't try to create some military victory for the Taliban. The Taliban wets their robes when they are spotted by our burger flippers.

"Anyway... try and think of a way to save your burger-flippers from crawling into body-bags. You know how they like it in there."

Truth is that if we had occupied any non-Muslim country for as long as we have, the losses would be much greater. Muslims can't seem to fight worth shit.

Israel is a daily reminder of that.

Muslims can't seem to fight worth shit.

Neither can Burger-flippers. LOL

Been how many years now? Still can't finish?

The Arabs are lousy fighters, true (as are the Isrealis). But the Afghans aren't really fighting you. They only ambush and trap. They keep pace with a low level conflict that drains money and supplies and blood.

You will never understand the concept of a guerrilla war victory.

The UN sez, you are losing. Case closed.

I have seen it all before with the Russians. Case double closed.

Burger-flippers went to defeat the Taliban... yet, they can't.

Why can't the Americans defeat and finish off the Taliban forever? How many more years and trillions of dollars will it take?

Hmmmm....

We've had conflicting goals over there but holding territory has never been one of them.

Oh???

Happy happy joy joy... tell your O'Banana where he went wrong. Ask for the medal with the pointy bits. hahahahahaha

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