"They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare."

What do you think welfare is for exactly? To help people NOT in need?

Oy Vey this woman is a special kind of stupid...

She is one fucked up looking broad. You can't tell me those lips are natural.

Send her, and those little fuck trophies to GitMo.

She sounds like the perfect running mate for Sarah Palin.

As a West Virginian, I see this kind of attitude everyday.

Many seem to have a visceral hatred of people on welfare, while at the same time they don't consider the particular type of government benefit they get (food stamps, EITC, Section 8 housing, child care stipends, SCHIP, Medicaid, WIC, etc.) to count.

Oh No! Angelina Suleman must be stopped. Brad please have a talk with this woman. Enough is enough...

She does remind me a bit of a less attractive slightly crazy(ier) looking Angelina.

On a more related note...after watching the interview with this Jolie wannabe, it "amuses" me that a woman on welfare with 14 children she cannot afford has such a beautiful acrylic French manicure. Such a treatment alone costs $50-$75 on average with upkeep being around $25-$40 every 3 weeks.

Good to see that she doesn't let something silly like spending money on her poor children get in the way of her own "needs."

EVERY DAY more and more is coming out about this con woman.
Talk radio here in L.A. has more new info on her every day.

Octomom is already getting more than $46,000 a year in SSI, food stamps, Medicaid, you name it -- and that's not counting the additional money she'll get for the eight new babies. She has never given her overworked and financially strapped parents one dime to help out in rent money or anything else, yet Octomom wants them to take full time care of all those babies in their home while Octomom spends all day in school.

Her parents small house is said to be wall-to-wall cribs.

She also has been able to hire full time nannies -- paid for by the taxpayers -- to help take care of all these kids. EVERYONE has to look after her babies BUT her.

And sickest of all -- Octomom was warned by doctors if she had so many babies at one time it would probably result in disabilities for some of the babies but she didn't care. Why? Because, as was reported last night, she was able to get MORE $$$$ per baby if they were born with physical and/or mental problems. Three of the babies of her first batch of kids were born with disabilities.

She's a schemer to the max. Everyone has her number now -- including her own parents.

She was also collecting money from two workers' comp claims she filed for a "bad back" but didn't seem to see a problem in carrying 8 babies at one time, back back and all.

And to top it off -- she plans to go back to school and become a "counseler" as if anyone would let this basketcase counsel them about anything. She's not a sicko, she's a con woman. The state needs to look into this case in a serious manner. This woman is using her babies only as a way to make money for herself.

"Octomom is already getting more than $46,000 a year in SSI, food stamps, Medicaid, you name it -- and that's not counting the additional money she'll get for the eight new babies."

Her mother said Suleman has around $160 grand in the bank, but doesn't contribute any money to the upkeep of the existing 6 kids. Her mom is drawing on her retirement fund to take care of them.

from the article about the tv interview Octomom had...

...Curry told [Octomom] that many people think she had the octuplets in the hope of making money off her story.

"That's funny how untrue that is," [Octomom] said. "Money? Money is necessary to raise children. But it's it's paper. It is paper. To me, it is superfluous in contrast to the importance of my kids."

As long as she doesn't have to work for the money to raise her 14 babies and it comes out of the taxpayers' pocket instead then it's just "paper" to her. She's a con woman.

"She was also collecting money from two workers' comp claims she filed for a "bad back" but didn't seem to see a problem in carrying 8 babies at one time, back back and all."

How do you think she afforded all these IVF treatments in the first place?

This woman is a selfish pig. I really can't think of any other way to define her. Every thing she says just reeks of it...my dreams...I want...my childhood...

I have to say though...for being packed in there like puppies and considering how frail premies tend to be many of her octuplets are pretty big and healthy looking.

Selfish pig...beautiful babies. I can only hope for their sakes someone steps in and does something about this.

First step - remove all wire hangers from the house.

I can't imagine anyone being upset about this. After all, the ROI of the food stamp is ≈ $1.5 to every dollar.

Send her, and those little fuck trophies to GitMo.

and yet, if she had wanted an abortion, you would have wanted her sent to Gitmo too. Poor woman is just living up to the Biblical demand about being fruitful and multiplying and christians are upset about it.

Face it, she's a whackjob but not so stupid she can't game the system.

#2 | Posted by 101Chairborne

"Fuck trophies"?

Wasn't it in vitro?

In vitro fertilisation (IVF) is a process by which egg cells are fertilized by sperm outside of the womb, in vitro. IVF is a major treatment in infertility when other methods of assisted reproductive technology have failed. The process involves hormonally controlling the ovulatory process, removing ova (eggs) from the woman's ovaries and letting sperm fertilise them in a fluid medium. The fertilized egg (zygote) is then transferred to the patient's uterus with the intent to establish a successful pregnancy.

I can only hope for their sakes someone steps in and does something about this.

#10 | Posted by OnionCake

Who to do what?

Foster home(s)?

Adoption agencies?

Wards of the State?

FUCK!!!!! THis is exactly what our tax dollars should not be used for.

Cut her ass off now. Make her live with the consequences of her stupidity.

I did notice on the news, however, that she can afford to have her nails done.

Make her live with the consequences of her stupidity.

#16 | Posted by briwo

And her 14 children? what of them? Should they to have to live with the consequences of their mother's stupidity?

My gut reaction is to say "cut her off," but at the same time, how do you set a limit on how many kids someone can have before they shouldn't be allowed to get food stamps? What should the number be, and why?

And her 14 children? what of them? Should they to have to live with the consequences of their mother's stupidity?

Posted by ZOT at 2009-02-11 03:14 PM

Foster care is usually done when a parent cannot care for their children, or are mentally unable to understand, or, in this case, both.

FUCK!!!!! THis is exactly what our tax dollars should not be used for.

#16 | Posted by briwo

#17, her church can take care of them. Taxpayers should not be shelling out one dime to this breeder or her parasitic spawn.

Zot- Does something in the lines of keeping a close eye on this woman and her many many children. If she is as negligent and selfish as she comes across, social services should take the proper steps to make sure these children are protected and cared for...

I'm not crying out to have the family broken up but that someone other than this lunatic and her already stretched thin mother are not the only lifelines these babies have.

What should the number be, and why?

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2009-02-11 03:15 PM

Well, two people with one child is negative population growth. Two people with two children is zero. I would say you allow people to have as many children as they want, but they only get tax credit and help for two.

Kan: Why should they get any tax credit? Why are we encouraging population growth?

All child tax credits should be taken out of the parents hands and put into the coffers of their local school districts.

Cobra,
Fuck Trophies is simply a name for children. She did go the un-natural route, but the fact is she has 8 little fuck trophies, crumb snatchers, Obama Voters, etc

Bri,
Only after the second child is there any growth. Two people with one child is negative growth and two people with two children is zero growth. We give people tax credits and such now for every kid they have which only encourages welfare families to have more children for more money. I am searching for a middle ground.

Only after the second child is there any growth. Two people with one child is negative growth and two people with two children is zero growth.

#26 | Posted by kanrei

The nation's chief narcissist does not consider them food stamps. She prefers to think of them as
hungry tickets.

Do you think she will be counseling women at Planned Parenthood?

Kan, I realize that, my point is that no one should be getting tax credits for having children.

Love the righties. Defend to the end that the state's right to demand she has to have the babies, then happy to let them starve to death.

And its actually 2.1 children or better for zero to positive growth.

And its actually 2.1 children or better for zero to positive growth.

When was the last time two people had .1 children?

This is the kind of welfare I don't see anyone in the real world arguing for.

Other than these baby making factories, of course.

Ok, correct me if im wrong, but dont you have to pay a publicist?

So if she can do that... Why is she getting public assistance?

#28 | Posted by tiger150 at 2009-02-11 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

FF!

Val,
You also have to pay a lot of money to be made to look like Angelina Jolie, but she can afford that too.

This woman's drag on the state is just beginning. Once the kids hit 4 years old they will start 4-year old kindergarten. 14 kids x $9K/year for schooling = $126K. Now, if we assume that some are disabled mentally, that will drive that total up to the $150-$175K range pretty quickly. Add that to the $46K she is currently getting in aid and probably an additional $46K+ for the current litter and she is sucking in ~$275K/year in taxpayer money. Over an 18 year life, that is $5M in taxpayer supports for this woman. I would assume the crazy gene carries over so her children's spawn will likely end up in jail or having a boatload of kids of their own further draining society.

My solution:
1.) Mandatory birth control for anyone on government assistance of any kind (suck it ACLU)
2.) Remove all tax payer credits for having children - there should be a tax penalty as the children are a burden on society

2.) Remove all tax payer credits for having children - there should be a tax penalty as the children are a burden on society

#37 | Posted by Real_Story

My solution:
#37 | Posted by Real_Story

1.) Mandatory birth control for anyone on government assistance of any kind (suck it ACLU)

#37 | Posted by Real_Story

Does that go for corporate welfare also?

Decisions about what type of assistance we want to go to families with children should not be made while thinking about idiots like this woman. There are millions of families, especially right now, depending on assistance who were hard working moms and dads only months ago. Even when the parents actions are irresponsible and selfish we, as a society, should not want to penalize the children.
That said, the implantation of 8 embryos into a woman with six children should be a crime, if it isn't already.

That's a great way to hurt mostly poor/middle class and minorities.

There is a reason why average IQ is dropping for the first time in US history - we (high IQ educated people) are being outbred by the stupid. I think it is fairly obvious to everyone that the more educated you are, the less children that you have. In the end, too many children can cause a family to be trapped in a cycle of poverty. Further, I would argue that one of the main reasons why minorities/poor are trapped in poverty is because they typically have children at a young age and they choose to 'raise a family' over completing their education. They can chose this because they are NOT 'raising a family', the state is paying for this service. If you took away the support, there will be less children, less money wasted supporting them, and less criminals on the street. The world already has over-population, why do you want to make the problem worse?

Does that go for corporate welfare also?

Any corporation capable of having children, which I think would limit it to the Mustang Ranch.

-we (high IQ educated people)

He must have a real smart mouse in pocket, considering that most Hitler defenders aren't real bright to begin with.

1.) Mandatory birth control for anyone on government assistance of any kind (suck it ACLU)

#37 | Posted by Real_Story

Maybe we could just sterilize them and then perform medical experiments?

SA

Don't give him any ideas..... please!

most Hitler defenders aren't real bright to begin with

I don't think that I ever defended Hilter or even the Nazis for that matter. Saying that they did not gas people based on the available evidence and saying that the Hilter was a great guy are two completely different things, at least to people with fully functioning brains. I am quite certain that my IQ and education far surpasses your own. BTW, I do not consider PhD in '3rd World Interpretive Dance' as legitimate education.

I know I'll be sorry for asking this, but what available evidence are you refering to?

I am quite certain that my IQ and education far surpasses your own.

#46 | Posted by Real_Story

Ahhh. We have our resident Internet tough guys, and now our resident Internet Braniac.

I know I'll be sorry for asking this, but what available evidence are you refering to?

#47 | Posted by briwo

Uh oh.....

I said from the very beginning that this entire thing was a financial scam, and I am being proved right. I am sure she promised the doctor who committed malpractice by implanting 8 embryos a cut of the proceeds, I hope it will be enough to compensate for the loss of his license to practice. I am with Chris on this one, she is obviously also committing workers comp fraud, cause her back can't be that bad if she can carry 8 babies. Considering that California is about bankrupt I am surprised that there isn't more outrage about this. I just hope that the usual suspects (the diaper companies et al) realize that showering this woman with the usual loot would NOT be good advertizing.

Ahhh. We have our resident Internet tough guys, and now our resident Internet Braniac.

#48 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-02-11 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

San,

That might be realistic or believable if he hadn't spelled Hitler as Hilter twice in the same post. Perhaps he's REALLY defending Leroy "Bubba" Hilter of his local Klan committee?

#51

LOL!

Litlebritdifrnt I'd been pondering that too, doesn't a physician take a medical history before whipping out the turkey baster? Who would perform IVF on any woman that already had 6 kids??

Calling Dr. Mormonski

Maybe someone who breeds so many should herself be "put to sleep" to make resources available for her progeny.

Guys were talking about this case at work today and somebody said the person who donated the sperm did so without going thru a sperm bank and arranged fertilization by a male friend doing a "favor."

Since he did not go to a sperm bank, what happens to this guy when she files for assistance?

-I am quite certain that my IQ and education far surpasses your own.

So, they spell it "Hilter" where you graduated?

THE self-retorting retort, indeed, eh, Reagan58?

Maybe someone who breeds so many should herself be "put to sleep" to make resources available for her progeny.

#54 | Posted by Johnson

I always appreciate it when the very soul of a poseur, er, poster shines through.

I know, I know!

What did the Hitler defender say when he went to the sperm bank?

"Where do I pud thith?"

So, they spell it "Hilter" where you graduated?

THE self-retorting retort, indeed, eh, Reagan58?

Wow, I spelled Hitler wrong - must be the scandal of the year in your little world. You can always tell when your opponents have lost an intellectual battle - they begin the personal attacks and pick on spelling/grammar.

In case you have not noticed, I type my responses to you and post without much proof-reading. You have not earned my respect to the point where I would spend much effort on your education. You should count your blessings that I waste any time on you at all.

RS sounds like Timbecile in Berlin.

"Damn peasants!"

Defending Hitler is about as anti-intellectual as it gets.

And you never did tell us which Nazi group you belong to.....

REal Story = Timbicile???

Sure sounds like it.

If not, it's a brand new nit wit to play with.

Yep, just be sure to wash your hands when you are done. This one is particularly filthy.

You have not earned my respect to the point where I would spend much effort on your education. You should count your blessings that I waste any time on you at all.

#58 | Posted by Real_Story

Bam! Right at the end of the day, just under the wire... Diet Coke-Spewing Post of the Day Award!

Well being s single mom, she obviously needs food stamps. No story "there" about that!

Now the dr who intrvo'ed all those embryos??? Should be brought up on charges....

"Octuplets' mom: No one can care for 14 kids alone"

Using the 2007 average as a low estimate, Kaiser would be eligible for a combined $9,584 per day in Medi-Cal reimbursement. The babies, who are 16 days old, have already racked up a conservative $153,344 in Medi-Cal costs, not including their delivery. Kaiser doctors have said they will remain hospitalized for seven to 12 weeks. If they stay for seven weeks, the cost would be $469,616. If they stay 12 weeks, the cost would be $805,056.

Kaiser gathered 46 doctors, nurses and other medical professionals together to perform the delivery. It's unclear how much that cost and who will pay.

This woman is not --repeat Not--like normal folks going to the doctor to help with fertility.

Nor is she like the folks who are receiving food stamps and gov't assistance.

The same doctor implanted her prior 6 children and knew her history.

She had 6 eggs left and wanted them all done at once.

Of the 6 eggs--two split to make 8.

She is irresponsible and appears not right in the head.

Next she will get a house on Extreme Home Makeover.

------

Instead of folks being responsibile--like 99.99%--you see this idiot woman who will single-handedly bring laws to an industry that used guidelines before.

Has everyone seen her new website asking for donations? She is registered as a 503(c) non-profit corp.

Pro--

Unfreakinbelievable.

So I guess she won't need welfare? I hope the California Dept. of Social Services knows this and makes her pay back all the monies she has received up till now.

The PR firm is promoting a welfare scam and I hope they get shut down.

--- Mandatory birth control for anyone on government assistance of any kind (suck it ACLU) ---

How about mandatory birth control for ANYone with more than two kids? I would push that view with by beloved ACLU and those still opposing any contraceptives.

--- Remove all tax credits for children - (levy) a tax penalty as the children are a burden on society...---

A tax credit for the first. Half that for a second. Nothing for a third. A tax penalty that grows bigger with every succeeding one. This does NOT impinge on my civil libertarian values, but I do await another salvo from my critics among the fetal rights folks. Surely THEY preach that a woman should be able to do as she pleases with her own body. herm

#42 | Posted by Real_Story

But it is the corporate heads who receive the money, remember TARP? Biggest corp welfare ever.

Palin/Suleman in 2012!

I want this woman's tubes tied.

With her legs.

And its actually 2.1 children or better for zero to positive growth.

When was the last time two people had .1 children?

#32 | Posted by kanrei

In the alternate reality most libs live in, everyone.

Love the righties. Defend to the end that the state's right to demand she has to have the babies, then happy to let them starve to death.
#31 | Posted by northguy3

You have to be a troll.

It will take a couple of million in various benefits to get her and these children to adulthood. The greatest maturing may just have to be done by this loosely sprung woman. Her ideas of going to school and then becoming a working mother with that many kids is at a minimum flawed. This woman should be examined for the emotional and intellectual ability to raise just the first group without consideration for the octuplets. She seems to have a view of reality more like a 12 year old rather than a mature(?) woman. As is being done, the doctor responsible for this mess is under investigation for ethical questions. He should also be held at least partially accountable for the expenses both of the birth and rearing. Instead the tax payers will foot the bill. The pro-lifers should make her a paid poster girl. Maybe her parents should have considered contraception. ????

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2009-02-11 05:07 PM

Maybe someone who breeds so many should herself be "put to sleep" to make resources available for her progeny.

#54 | Posted by Johnson

I always appreciate it when the very soul of a poseur, er, poster shines through.

And there should be consequences for the doctor, who has performed the work to produce these kids. He should be required to pay child support, or something to relieve the community from paying for their upkeep and maintenance.

Right Corky. You don't want to take drastic action, then you support them. Wait. You are. But you pay my share also. I don't want my life negatively affected by her bizarre behavior.

JOHNSON-see #75.

I think that fertility doctor should have to pay for these children. The jackass implanted her with all those fertilized eggs. So, he should be held accountable for his reckless disregard for the welfare of those children. It's very likely that some of those children will have physical disabilities that will cause the government to shell-out vast sums of money to care for these children. They have already cost taxpayers a fortune and there's no end in sight.

Now the dr who intrvo'ed all those embryos??? Should be brought up on charges....

#63 | Posted by DavetheWave

I think that fertility doctor should have to pay for these children.

#78 | Posted by Vancouver_Bob

Fine. Y'all start proceedings to extradite the doctor from Mexico. Buena suerte with that.

This whole thing is an outrage. Welfare is meant for people truly in need - not for some spoiled woman who is so messed up she feels she needs to give birth to a litter in order to not feel lonely. She didn't need children - she needed a good shrink. The doctor who impregnanted her with all those embryos should be hauled before the medical ethics board in California and the state should rescind every cent this woman is collecting in food stamps. As for her federal aid for the children she already has - someone should check to make sure all those kids truly are disabled to the extent she claims they are.

She states that she is going back to school in the fall and will use the university's daycare center for her litter of 14 kids. Does she understand that space in these centers is FINITE and that she will be displacing other students - some who just may have greater need than she does - if she dumps her kids into a subsidized daycare center? This woman has re-written the definite of 'selfish' and it is revolting. My sympathies go out to the children who will be the true victims of this woman's greed but the state of California simply cannot afford her.

And how did she pay for the plastic surgery, let alone those extremely expensive fertility treatments - on Rodeo Drive yet? That's one more thing needs investigating.

you know I hate to say it out loud..
but she's kind of cute............

so who wouldnt want to get involved with a women with 14 kids who looks to be a psycopath....

Can't someone spay this bitch? I feel sorry for her litter.

No reason to be up in arms about this, she fits right in with the new progressive America we are coming into.

Just have her ask Obama for a house, a couple nanny's, maybe a fleet of vans, drivers, food and oh yes money....he'll take care of it.

Here's the best part, whacked out libs will suuport it and say this is juuuust fine.

Of course it is.

Predelivery pics. Scary...

Wow Zot. I usually view pregnancy as such a naturally beautiful thing...

This pig looks like some sort of alien egg sack from a bad sci fi movie.

Lovely.

I though tall the 'Embryo Lovers" would be ecstatic. What gives?

We could save alot of money if we donate the children to Andrea Yates, Susan Smith, and Mark Castillo.

Or we could go back in time and send her on a boat with Scott from Modesto...

#32

That would be Tadowe's parents....

I am appaulled at the whole group of you idiots. In the US we are to have freedom. Who made all of you God. The media makes someone into a monster and all the morans bite. Remember how the media made fun of the mother of 7 and her bad teeth. What about the innocent man in Georgia who was made out to be a bomber. It is no ones business what she does. She did not know she would have 8. Now that she has you make her into a monster because she has done something that no one else has done. I do not care how it happened, it did. and until you go after every other welfare person you all should back off. Leave that family alone. The media makes you all into idiots.

So a "friend" donated sperm. This male friend KNEW a baby or babies were planned. MAKE THE FATHER start paying up. A DEAD BEAT dad is still just that. It's time to start a slew of investigations and start a flow of money coming TO the State of California instead of FROM the state.

Make the doctor who implanted the six .. be responsible for the MEDICAL BILL for the delivery. He knew she wasn't married and she wasn't working.

The State of California is sinking in a morass of "freebie" handouts. Its time to go back over each and every assistance program and re-think them. This type of thing will just keep happening.