Not with the dems doing the counting.

Dingy Harry said we couldn't win the war in Iraq either.

And...................
WE DIDN'T.

Really What part of Iraq do we not control.

Coleman goes from saying that if he here Franken, he would concede, but when the results don't favor Coleman....LAWSUIT!!!!

"What part of Iraq do we not control.

#4 | Posted by timbci "

If by "control" you mean which part are suicide bombers murdering people with impunity, then pretty much all of it.

We didn't win the war in Iraq.

What part of Iraq do we not control.

#4 | Posted by timbci "

If by "control" you mean which part are suicide bombers murdering people with impunity, then pretty much all of it.

Really that is news to me. There were more murders last month in Queens than in Baghdad

timbci,

Tthe alleged success of the surge is just partisan bullshit. Everyone that could leave ain't coming back anytime soon. Purging all Christians and Sunnis has calmed things down.

Malaki visits Iran regularly and is slowly gaining control. Shrub's Iraq War has empowered Iran, in a very big way. China got their first oil contract. The stupid fucking war will cost more than giving everyone in the US free gasoline for a decade.

And control of what: water, electricity, roads, schools, museums, hospitals or oil wells? Blowing the shit out of something is not the same thing as controlling it. The Shiites control almost everything except the Kurds. It was this outcome that #41 was trying to prevent when he stopped short of toppling Hussein. You think maybe #43 outsmarted his daddy, or not?

Norm Coleman figures that for Minnesota, having a Democratic Senator would be worse than not having a Senator. I won't claim though that Al Franken (or virtually any other politician) wouldn't be doing the same thing. Hope it ends soon. CAn't wait to say Senator Al Franken!

al gore al fartkin recount till the cows come home.oprah for president in 2012

Really that is news to me. There were more murders last month in Queens than in Baghdad

#9 | Posted by timbci at 2009-01-21 06:22 PM

There were between 8-9000 civilian casualties in Iraq last year. 32% of them were in Baghdad. That means an average monthly death toll in Baghdad of around 227.

Queens must be a pretty rough place!

"We" don't control Iraq. "We" never have. The Sunni Militia controls Iraq, and the Kurdish Militia, and the Shia ones.

When last seen, the Iraqi Army was dominated by Shia Militias, illustrating the point. Not one Militia, but a number of them, as is the government of Iraq.

You're a great guy, TIMBCI. But you don't know enough about Iraq to even understand the scope of the problem there. Like Bush.

we must have won the media has left,no more cindy sheehan,no code pink and no more protest.

There are 12,000 absentee ballots not counted--that is the mantra of the Dems to count every vote.

And the recount was flawed--that is what the purpose of the lawsuit is suppose to review.

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And we have won Iraq--there is still some stuff to do and we have turned over the provinces to the Iraqis. I think we are up to the 18??

The surge worked.

But don't call it that when Obama does the same thing in Afghanistan..

I ain't defending Franken on this one, my progressive pals in the TCs told me of the bullshit arguments Franken's team was making in order to get ballots called in his favor. One involved a check-mark written in Coleman's bubble, and the top tip of the check-mark went into Franken's. Franken's people argued that the voter probably had bad vision and intended to mark it Franken. This shit was on TV for all to see!

Coleman is a douchebag and I don't want to defend him, but I hate to win by unjust means. Playing fair and doing what's right is more important than MEMEME.

Coleman is a douchebag and I don't want to defend him, but I hate to win by unjust means. Playing fair and doing what's right is more important than MEMEME.

#17 | Posted by Scrumplet

Oh come on. Franken and Coleman BOTH had hundreds of ridiculous challenges on ballots. Both of them dropped the majority of them prior to the recount.

The economy is in the tank, fuckhead schummer has alot o do with that, but I just realized, the liberals run wall street, and I just can't help getting that nagging voice in the back of my head to shut up as it reminds me of when bubba clinton was being impeached for getting free lewinskis in the oval office, he made some comments to the effect that " if you impeach me, the stock market will crash", was this whole financial debacle contribed by the left to get their worthless, clueless,illegal alien, little black boy in office? How was clinton going to drive the market into the toilet, who was going to do his bidding?
That obama was deeply involved in a.c.o.r.n. and intimidated banks into making bad loans to his bro's, knowing they would not pay them back?
socialism is a brainfucked ideology, always has been, and always will be. obama will always take the path of least resistance, instead of fixing the problems , he will raise taxes and throw money at the problems, the old commie playbook page 1 paragraph 1.
Welcome to camel lot the obamination, the banana republic.

More, Rightnut, more!!!

reid; 'waaaaaa, ma ma ma ma waaaaaaaa, he can't win, i won't awwow it. waaaaaa, he's a big poopy pants'.

pelosi; 'there there, little harry, don't get yourself all worked up over'....

reid; 'sniff, sniff, but it's just not fair. you said i could have everything i wanted if i gave up my manhood'.

pelosi; (patting his little round head) 'there, there, we'll get you a new liberal for xmas'. 'now get on your knees bitch'!

reid; 'yes, daddy'

Geez, RNut, switch to Sanka before you pop an artery.

"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

Coleman, when he was ahead in the count, said Franken should settle the vote like a true Minnesotan and not take it to court, Then, when he falls behind, he takes it to court. Either he's not a Minnesotan, or he's a Republican hypocrite. But I repeat myself.

PRESIDENT BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA needs a good man like SENATOR AL FRANKEN in DC. God will make sure he gets him.

Franken probably got more votes, and would've won larger if the lib. vote hadn't been split. He should take the seat, even though he is a total idiot.

In the end, it will be good for republicans because the American people will soon see what an awful mistake it was to have Presidency and Congress under Dem control.

Funny thing now is that it'll be Obama who will have to try to make Congress practical. There'll be more tension among Dems and Obama than Reps and Obama. It'll be a hoot - we've already seen Pelosi trying to roll back tax cuts early and have Obama try to investigate Bush. Obama's got his work cut out for him, and I sincerely wish him luck (because I trust him to be more practical than Pelosi et al)

Harry, that's a big balled statement. Did Nancy approve it before you released it?

"Coleman goes from saying that if he here Franken, he would concede, but when the results don't favor Coleman....LAWSUIT!!!!" #5 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

That's not quite a factual timeline. That is what is called an MSNBC timeline.

That's not quite a factual timeline. That is what is called an MSNBC timeline.

#27 | Posted by KBM

Then perhaps you could enlighten us with a documented "factual" time line?

Sen. Norm Coleman says that if he knew the morning after the election that his lead over Al Franken was going to shrink significantly, he probably wouldn't have urged Franken to concede defeat.

As soon as we toss all the double counted votes and recheck those that the democrats pretended belonged to them then Coleman will be back ahead and Al Franken can file his lawsuit.

Al Franken. One more reason I'm glad I'm not a dem.

Buz-
You really think Coleman can litigate his way to victory?

That's not quite a factual timeline. That is what is called an MSNBC timeline.

#27 | Posted by KBM at 2009-01-21 08:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Coleman publicly called for Frankens concession two days after the election.

Al Franken. One more reason I'm glad I'm not a dem.

#31 | Posted by irvingschmidley

Norm Coleman is one of the reasons the country is glad they voted dem in November.

"Al Franken. One more reason I'm glad I'm not a dem."

Ahem. Sen. Vitter is a Republican.

nuf said.

A Great Rolling Stone article published in Dec that really sheds light on the two candidates demeanor when faced with adversity.

The Last Recount
In Al Franken's race in Minnesota, blue and red tangle for the final time in the Bush era
MATT TAIBBIPosted Dec 11, 2008 12:30 PM

On a Saturday in mid-November, Al Franken stands in front of a roomful of volunteers at Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota. The former comedian and talk-show host knows that his campaign troops are fired up over the recount of his race to unseat the state's Republican senator, Norm Coleman. The official tally ended in a virtual tie, with Coleman leading by only 215 votes out of 2.9 million ballots cast a margin of seven-thousandth of one percent. To Franken's campaign volunteers, it seems like Florida 2000 all over again.

The ballot recount, which is mandated by state law, is expected to last well into December keeping painfully alive the already insanely protracted season of electoral combat between Democrats and Republicans. But rather than throwing red meat to the assembled volunteers, Franken is actually trying to calm them down. Walking back and forth, he leads them in a mock war chant that tweaks the old red-blue outrage:

"What do we want?" Franken shouts.
"PATIENCE!" the volunteers respond.
"When do we want it?" Franken asks.
"NOW!" the crowd demands.

Reid should just let Minnesota figure it out and STFU.

It's not like it'll matter much; 58 or 59 is still enough to ram just about anything through.

If by "control" you mean which part are suicide bombers murdering people with impunity, then pretty much all of it.

#6 | Posted by LetUsPrey

Then by your definition we don't controle quite a bit of the US where the gangs run free.

You have some real strange logic let.

"Reid should just let Minnesota figure it out and STFU"

Harry Reid's (D Senator from Nevada) Ancestor
>
>
> Its all in how you put the words together.
>
>
> Judy Wallman, a professional genealogy researcher here in southern California , was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Harry (senator (D) from Nevada ) Reid's great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.
> The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows in Montana territory.
>
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> On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her research is this inscription:
> 'Remus Reid, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.'
>
> So Judy recently e-mailed Senator Harry Reid for information about their mutual great-great uncle.
>
> Believe it or not, Harry Reid's staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:
>
> 'Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.'
>
>
> That's real POLITICAL SPIN! THAT is how it's done folks! .
>

LOL!!! Gotta love that one, Bani!

BTW...That reminded me of an email I got a few weeks ago...

BEST LAWYER STORY OF THE YEAR, DECADE AND PROBABLY THE CENTURY.

Charlotte, North Carolina

A lawyer purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars, then insured
them against, among other things, fire.

Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars
and without yet having made even his first premium payment on the policy
the lawyer filed a claim against the insurance company.

In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost 'in a series of small
fires.'

The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason, that the
man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.

The lawyer sued and WON !

0D
(Stay with me.)

Delivering the ruling, the judge agreed with the insurance company that
the claim was frivolous. The judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer
held a policy from the company, which it had warranted that the cigars
were insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire,
without defining what is considered to be unacceptable 'fire' and was
obligated to pay the claim.

Rather than endure lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company
accepted the ruling and paid $15,000 to the lawyer for his loss of the
cigars lost in the 'fires'.

NOW FOR THE BEST PART..

After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested
on 24 counts of ARSON!!!� With his own insurance claim and testimony from
the previous case being used against him, the lawyer was convicted of
intentionally burning his insured property and was sentenced to 24 months
in jail and a $24,000 fine.

This is a true story and was the First Place winner in the Criminal
Lawyers Award Contest.

ONLY IN AMERICA, NO WONDER OTHER COUNTRIES THINK WE'RE NUTS!

That cigar story is fun, but it's false. And it's from 1997.

expecially in believing 911 was done by 19 boxcutting freaks on a mission from Allah:>)lol

Which is exactly what he said about Iraq.

That lawyer story sounded like one of those BS Snopes stories my grandparents always email me. They all have a similarity about them. Further fuel to perpetuate popular sentiment.

Really What part of Iraq do we not control.

#4 | Posted by timbci

Silly me, I had thought Iraq was controlled by the Iraqi government.

And...................
WE DIDN'T.

#3 | Posted by newfreethinker

you should contact the godfather rcade and change your name it obviously doesnt fit this stupid comment.....

ried also said that burris would not be seated....

this might signal the end of the theft of that seat.

Just like there was "no way" that Reid and the rest of the Senate would seat a Blagojevich appointment.

Reid is nothing more than a posturing, ineffectual hack. His words are worth nothing.

it doesn't really matter what Reid says, Coleman already lost the people of Minnesota confidence in him, so most likely his best chance is to run for President in 2012:>)

Only in America can folks be duped so easily...no wonder other countries think we're nuts.

#41 | Posted by Danforth

Dan-O, I never believe any emails I get that have to state they're the truth...But you're right..it's funny....

"Dingy Harry said we couldn't win the war in Iraq either."

If wasting 4,000 of our best people and our entire treasury to mitigate a threat that never existed is a "win", then we won in Iraq.

If you're sane person and capable of doing a simple, common sense cost/benefit analysis then you know that such a high price for literally no gain to Americans is a catastrophe. Nobody won in Iraq.

As for Coleman - It appears to me that he was cheated by the DNC machine.

As for Coleman - It appears to me that he was cheated by the DNC machine.

Posted by Sully

Sully...I know you can do better than that...remember the Republican Governor didn't want the sore loser if you read the Rolling Stone article I posted in *35

good article, too!

Bani - My opninion is based on some articles I read that illustrated how nearly identical questionable ballots were treated differently and somehow Franken always seemed to be the benefactor.

I don't believe it "interpreting" votes period. I see that as a huge danger to democracy because you now have one group of people determining how others voted.

There should be clear rules as to what constitutes a legitimate vote with zero room for interpretation. If the conditions outlined by the rules aren't met, the vote should not count at all.

I think the RNC should stop the lawsuits. I want Franken in the Senate. I can't wai for the sound bites

Dingy Harry said we couldn't win the war in Iraq either.

#2 | Posted by fwthom

If this is what you call winning, I'm glad I wasn't on the same baseball team as you. Ya putz.

Baseball. Who plays baseball besides immigrants

... Reid also said he would not seat a Blago appointed Senator ...

Look people, in every area re-counted Franken somehow ended up with more votes than he had first time around. Is anyone suspicious at all?? Now there are allegations of double-counting, this is a serious issue which needs to be resolved by another count.

Obviously this is a close race, legitimate issues of fraud or error need to be addressed before anyone is seated. Reid needs to shut the hell up.