Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, January 21, 2009

New York Gov. David A. Paterson said he had a "good idea" of who he would like to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton, but planned to mull it over for a few more days. Possible choices include state Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo and Caroline Kennedy.

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It will be Kennedy.

As a dem, i hope it is NOT Kennedy.

As long as it is not Moosefart Barbie, EVERYONE will be happy!!!

As a dem I hope it is Kennedy. I trust her. I trust her judgement. She owes no favors to anyone. She is well educated and intelligent.

Oh for crying out loud! Just pick her and get it over with.

Somebody here can't get Palin of their mind...

Its going to be Kennedy because Paterson wants to be reelected and the Kennedy's will help him if he helps them. As a New Yorker I don't like it. She won't do anything to help the struggling areas outside of NYC's shadow.

Somebody here can't get Palin of their mind...

Obviuosly a FOX watcher. Wasn't she twirling batons or pasties for Glenn Dreck Monday? Sounds like the Alaska legislature is gonna have to dust off their "Where's Palin?" buttons again. Of course, its not like the Alaska budget is in the dumper, or anything....

I trust her. I trust her judgement. She owes no favors to anyone. She is well educated and intelligent.

#4 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Believe it or not, I agree with you.

Pretty embarrassing for Kennedy if she doesn't get picke I think.

picked.

Kennedy? Talk about some one who is out of touch with her potential consituents! Patterson's an idiot, but he sure plays a mean pin-ball.

It's going to be Kennedy anyway. Why the dog and pony show? I've never known Paterson to be a twit like this and play makebelieve games.

Incidentally, Windows 7 is rock solid.

Incidentally, Windows 7 is rock solid.

#12 | Posted by soheifox at 2009-01-21 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:


I'm glad to hear that. I've been telling my manager NO, NO, NO for the last couple of years when he insists that I need to get a new laptop. I've resisted Vista/Mojave/MSCrap6 to this point.

I've never known Paterson to be a twit like this and play makebelieve games.
#12 | Posted by soheifox

He was surprised that anybody would question it in the first place. He initially was unveiling his choice to the people of NY, but when questioned said she was only a candidate among several. He thought people would be too distracted by Obama fever that nobody would notice. Not that I think she is a bad candidate.

I'm glad to hear that. I've been telling my manager NO, NO, NO for the last couple of years when he insists that I need to get a new laptop. I've resisted Vista/Mojave/MSCrap6 to this point.

#13 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2009-01-21 01:34 PM | Reply | Flag:


Vista _was_ garbage, compared. It feels like Vista was a temporary measure between XP and 7. Just like ME was a temporary measure between 98SE and 2000/XP. I've been beating the crap out of this system and the only thing I've noticed is sometimes MP3's stop playing correctly and have to be restarted.

And since I'm not using the correct sound drivers anyway... that's not really the OS' fault.

You'd think that after 2 1/2 months he's already have it figured out. Even Blago managed to get his pick submitted on time.

Windows 7 is rock solid.

I was downloading the beta when I got an auto update, reboot, and lost the whole thing.

Are you running a dual boot?

It's a real shame that Microsoft didn't have some better software engineers early on. Windows was originally built off the source code of DEC's OpenVMS which is to this day still one of the finest operating systems built. An awful lot of nuclear power plants, telecomm base operations, financial exchanges still run it without any of the Windows glitches that occur daily. The only problem was they threw out most of the good stuff from OpenVMS and built crap on top of what was left.

Some trivia for those that care about such.

Are you running a dual boot?

#17 | Posted by OzarkAggie at 2009-01-21 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Technically a triple boot. Believe it or not I keep MacOS on as backup to keep me updated on it. I'm certified to repair Macs also but there's no way in Hell I'd ever BUY one. I'm not stupid enough to pay twice the price for identical hardware; I know how to put things together and don't need Steve Jobs to do it for me. It is nice that Mac users are willing to pay such ridiculous rates for me to fix their boxes, though, so it'd be stupid to give it up entirely.

*coughs* Now that said and done, allow me to explain how solid this beta is: my third partition used to be XP. Now it just holds my emulators and arcade ROMs and whatnot. I dualboot allright, but my only Microsoft OS is the 7 Beta.

Macs aren't all bad. At work we use macbooks with bootcamp which enables us to have vista and Leopard on the hard drive. We have some lab equipment that runs off of mac software. To be honest I have never had a problem with vista. The IT department wanted macs so that's what we got.

The IT department wanted macs so that's what we got.

#20 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-01-21 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag:


The IT department wanted MACs so they wouldn't have to deal with virus updates daily and "fixing" computers that had BSODs that users couldn't figure out.


Macs aren't all bad. At work we use macbooks with bootcamp which enables us to have vista and Leopard on the hard drive. We have some lab equipment that runs off of mac software. To be honest I have never had a problem with vista. The IT department wanted macs so that's what we got.

#20 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-01-21 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag


No, they're not all bad at all. They're just the exact same thing at a higher cost. Mac users are so well trained it's ludicrous.

Here's some useless personal anecdotes: I used to charge the same rates for Mac or PC repair because.. frankly, I'm doing the same job, the only difference is the OS is different. It's no more different from XP then 98 is from Vista, but it's enough that you can't guesswork it so you keep a copy of it around. I got no Mac repairs at all. People would call for estimates and then never come in for the actual repair. It was really stragne.

On the advice of a _competing_ technician, I jacked up the labour prices on Mac repairs to 3.5 times as much, and now I do Mac jobs on a fairly regular basis. He explained it to me that Mac owners are so groomed, trained, and EXPECTING to be fleeced that they think they're not getting quality unless they're paying at LEAST twice as much for the exact same service or product.

And he was right about it. Ever since then I see those "Think Different" ads with an entirely new perspective. Nothing keeps the sheep baaahing along to the pasture quite like convincing them that they are "better" then everyone else.

Snag the Beta for 7 for personal use on your home box, dualboot it. Betcha you'll do what I did, and shift entirely.

To the best of my knowledge Hillary Clinton is still a NY Senator.

Until she'd confirmed as Sec of State Patterson doesn't have to announce a successor, and she won't resign until then.

The IT department wanted MACs so they wouldn't have to deal with virus updates daily and "fixing" computers that had BSODs that users couldn't figure out.

#21 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2009-01-21 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag


Any IT department that thinks so has mistaken "security through obscurity" for "quality product". On Bizzaro-world, MacOS is the dominant force and the people who pay more for the same thing are the rabid fans of a small company named Microsoft. Because they are "sick of all the viruses" MacOS delivers on a daily basis.

The reason there are so few viruses and whatnot for MacOS is the same reasons terrorists don't go around killing child molsetors to make their point.

What notice are you going to get or chaos are you going to cause if you go after a target nobody cares about?

And furthermore, if those same IT departments truly understoood what they were doing, they'd be asking for BSD or Solaris systems, not Macs. There's no reasons whatsoever to pay the rates Apple charges, when there's something out there which always does the same thing and for far cheaper. Rock-Solid security through obscurity is better served by straight BSD then MacOS.

Heck, so is common business desktop usage. The kind of people who screw up Windows boxes really shouldn't be allowed to have a computer that does anything more then exactly what their job requires. Of course this can be set up under Windows just as easily.. but you run into that security through obscurity. Some enterprising enduser WILL find a way to crack the Windows security, because there's millions of jackholes working on all flaws in Windows.

Get a nerdy super secure OS if you own a business, or Windows if you are a personal PC user. There's no actual USE for Apple's product except to make it's users feel special.

Somehow it switched from anointing another Kennedy to a damn computer operating system. You guys can't seem to stay focused.

"Get a nerdy super secure OS if you own a business, or Windows if you are a personal PC user. There's no actual USE for Apple's product except to make it's users feel special."

I was a former anti-mac guy. Built my own computers, did all of my own trouble shooting, etc., etc. Never did anything stupid with it--but things ALWAYS stopped working, crashed, etc. at random times.

Then i bought a Macbook. I resisted at first because i already knew how to troubleshoot my pc, etc.---but then i realized--I DON'T NEED TO TROUBLE SHOOT MY MAC. It just works. No crashes. No problems.

You should know better than to make statements like the above. There IS something to be said to have hardware that is specifically designed to work together. Less variations in hardward means less issues with conflicts, etc.

The interface is slick. The setup and programs are intuitive. There are just a lot of little things that make this computer much much more enjoyable to use. Something as simple as the magnetic power cord adapter that, if tripped over, won't destroy your computer.

There's nothing wrong with paying a little more for a product that is well designed, well supported
and WORKS.


I'll try Windows 7 after it is officially released and the first SP has been released and debugged. But honestly, if i was going to run a PC, i'd run Ubuntu, not XP or Vista.


I trust her. I trust her judgement. She owes no favors to anyone. She is well educated and intelligent.


#4 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob


Believe it or not, I agree with you.

#8 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-01-21 01:13 PM | Reply | Fl


oh please bob

and wisgod...you should know better

she is a kennedy and that makes her beholden to every bootlegger on the east coast............hardy har har

ohyeah I have read that it will be her because como has turned it down for a race for governor......

so that might have been a meeting between the gov and the wantabe if they met and that report is correct...

This arc was drawn months ago when Hillary agreed to tank her campaign so Obama could beat McCain, and Carolyn was selected to work on Obama's VP selection committee.

Obama moves up.
Hillary moves up.
Carolyn moves up.

Hopefully she doesn't ski into a tree before she gets nominated. Actually, it would be nice if she would, but the Kennedy women, unlike their men, have seemed to avoid killing themselevs in unique ways and often hilarious ways.


#27 | Posted by __b__ at 2009-01-21 03:03 PM | Reply | Flag

Bravo.

The same people who are able to run Macs without them crashing are the same people capable of doing the same for a PC. Mac or PC, the kind of people who need my service at all would need it either way.

You didn't need that service with a Windows computer either. And, again, if Mac was the topseller and Microsoft was the udnerdog, you'd be the kind of person who pays extra for the security through obscurity it offers. Security through obscurity Is NOT a measure of superior quality at all. If millions of hackers were slicing away daily at MacOS, it would look like swiss cheese as well. Here, I'll make my point another way.

Allow me to explain something very simple for you:

I have MacOS.

You have MacOS.

My MacOS doesn't crash often or get spyware ever.

Your MacOS doesn't crash often or get spyware ever.

When I want to casually surf the web and whatnot, I flip a coin for which OS to use.

You use MacOS exclusively, no doubt.

(here there might be the first difference)

When I want to use a game, or use productivity suites, I use the Windows version. When I want to work on art or music, I use freeware apps, again under windows. When you want to use a productivity suite, you use the Apple version. When you want to do art and music, you use Apple's cute trial versions or pay exorbitant fees for the full version. When you want to play games, you delude yourself into thinking you have a good enough selection... OR YOU BOOT OVER TO WINDOWS ANYWAY with Bootcamp!

I put together an AMD SSE2-capable PC from parts, which enables me to, like you, use MacOS or Windows 7. The largest difference is I paid one third what you did, for the exact same quality.

Get it? You are deluding yourself to believe otherwise. We have the EXACT same capabilities, but I paid less. The only single thing you have done is made my point. We have the EXACT SAME PRODUCT but you paid a lot more to use it! The difference between your computer and mine is you paid for a little logo on the hardware. That's it.

And you actually think you got your money's worth, paying three times as much for the exact same thing. The simplest way to keep sheep in line is to convince them that they are the smart ones... for paying extra to do the exact same things.

you know public..I think you are on to something there

either all that or she and her supporters are just more liberals who are wealthy and want to tell US how to live and get all of us so dependent on MOTHER GOVERNMENT that we would never want to vote for anyone other than dems again....

and she is just another one of those..
or we both might be right

OH and there's the fact that when the Apple user needs my service, they wouldn't use me UNTIL I started to charged exorbitant fees. You are all so brainwashed you seriously believe that unless you are paying at least twice what something is worth, you're getting lower quality.

I am a ceritfied Apple Genius and Technician. I was both of these things when I charged $30 an hour to work on Macs. I am still both of these things, but now I charge 60-100 an hour to work on Macs.

I didn't get business at $30. I get plenty at $100. Why do you honestly think that is? Can you step out of the Apple "experience" long enough to explain to me why Apple users only wanted me to fix their computers when I agreed to rip them off?

Soheifox--i can't speak for others. I only know of my experiences. I always look for a deal-so if i needed service, i'd go to the cheapest person who can get it done.

But i agree that one of the reasons Macs aren't plagued by viruses/spyware is market share (or as you put it "obscurity"). I couldn't care less WHY i have less problems, i just care that i do. If charging more keeps less people from buying them and thus makes them a less attractive target for viruses and spyware--then so be it.

This is all about personal choice. I personally enjoy macs--i enjoy the design, the slick interface and, most of all, the lack of problems. Yes I pay a little more, but to ME, it is worth it. The same goes for other things i purchase. I've found, generally speaking, you get what you pay for.

When i had many dells/home built and other computers over the years that were plagued by (a) hardware failures; (b) hardware/software conflicts; (c) crashes; (d) audio all of the sudden stopping; and other strange annoying attributes---you cannot say I'm deluded to think i've got a better product when i haven't as had any problems on my Mac in the year i've owned it. It isn't that it has other crazy cool features that other computers don't--it is just that it does what it is supposed to do, without problems. I don't have time to deal with the BS of troubleshooting when something goes wrong.

To each his own. For now, i'm satisfied paying the "jobs tax".

she is a kennedy and that makes her beholden to every bootlegger on the east coast............hardy har har


#28 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2009-01-21 03:49 PM | Reply | Flag:


All 3 of them??

I would love to see Kennedy chosen by Patterson. It will turn the Dems in NYC against him that want Cuomo and believe she is unqualified. It will make Patterson vs. cuomo in the Governor Primary very entertaining. Maybe by then Air america will be out of business and Mark Green will be unemployed once again. It would make it great if he ran too. He is such a fun punching bag.

"Pretty embarrassing for Kennedy if she doesn't get picke I think."

"picked."

She is a Kennedy. Are you sure you weren't reaching for "pickled."

NY Post is reporting Kennedy has WITHDRAWN her name from the process!!

Another Drudge report says Caroline has withdrawn, so I'd guess Da Guv played footsie to give her time to bow out gracefully. Another Cuomo in office ain't bad either. herm

B,

That would be a victory for Clintonistas. They weren't supposed to be in charge were they?

Remember that old song Chains, Chains, Chains...Chains of Fools. That's how it starts.

Change, Change, Change...

Please.

When he bailed on liberty, I bailed on him. He's ambassadorial so things will quiet down. They'll also tighten up. We should burn the Fed and start coining silver with our own Treasury. Back in the late 19th Century a Missouri Congressman took up the issue of free coinage. So ardent was he that he was known as Silver Dick Brand.

He was right then, and he's right now. Coin silver.

This Administration sleeps with the enemy. Ron Paul for Secretary of Treasury. Not too late to campaign. The Good Doctor would certainly tell the Truth. As USA claims The Solution is More House.

The whole fabric of this country has been torn by greed, and while it's not the first time, Milton Friedman and his acolytes favor, in fact preach, economic collapse as a means to an end. They used Orders 1 & 2 in Iraq to crush a socialist administration and the US Army and Marines to crush the opposition.

We can't allow that to happen to American UNLESS it restores the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Ozark, did you just let your prescription run out?

How are they gonna do this?

Put all the likely candidates in the same room with Patterson spin him a round a few times and then hand him a pin with a donkey tail attached?

Wot?

Don't look at Spud like that!

At a certain level that joke was inevitable.

Spud was just getting it out of the way is all.

Now, we can all move on.

^_^

Be Well.

/At least Spud didn't go so far as to mention the money they'd save on a blindfold there.

** ducks **

It'll be Andrew Cuomo, btw.

No matter how many times they spin him.

Call it a hunch.

Be Well.

Word on the street is that he is choosing Sarah Palin.

You betcha! ;-)

I hope he picks an accountant and not a lawyer

So what, New York has already been without a Senator for 2+ years ... during the time Hillary has been campaigning, fundraising, and ignoring New York.

What happened to all the Jobs she promised for NY?? None arrived. Hillary has accomplished NOTHING for the people of New York. This gig was just to springboard her to higher office.

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