Oh well, nothing to see here. Obama has apparently "reiterated his support" for Geithner.

God I love when politicians don't bother to play by the same rules they insist that we all live by. It makes the whole government so much more transparent.

"The unpaid taxes were discovered by Obama's transition team while investigating Geithner's background, the official said."

Another sharp pencil that figured the matter wouldn't come up.

Geithner also didn't realize a housekeeper he paid in 2004 and 2005 did not have current employment documentation as an immigrant for the final three months she worked for him.

I find it hard to believe this was an "honest mistake" seeing as the article itself indicates that he was notified of the past due taxes in 2006 but did not pay them until now. However, even if this was an honest mistake, I don't see how it's appropriate to put someone in charge of collecting taxes when he doesn't even understand when they are due.

"Timothy Geithner paid most of the past-due taxes days before Obama announced his nomination in November, an Obama transition official said."

I wonder where the money came from and how many points he paid?

No news here. If it were a Bush appointee, the predictable litanies from the libtards would have already filled up the comments page. But Geithner is a liberal Dem in New York, and everyone knows those guys don't pay taxes. I wonder if Charles Rangle and Tim Geithner have the same CPA?

Ah well. Something as trivial as failing to pay taxes shouldn't keep him from a position that doesn't require any knowledge of tax policy. Or money. You know, like Secretary of the Treasury.

Four more years! What a friggin' joke.

Shouldn't failure to pay taxes automatically negate you from being Treas. Sec?

OK here is my solution: let him try to establish reasonable cause with the IRS. If he can establish reasonable cause as to why he did not include this income, then I may be willing to cut him some slack. And here is the thing, if he caught it an corrected it before the IRS caught on, which it appears he did, then he is sitting pretty (other than having to pay $34,000 in taxes that is).

Geithner failed to pay self-employment taxes for money he earned while working for the International Monetary Fund from 2001 to 2003, the transition official said. In 2006, the IRS notified him that he owed $14,847 in self-employment taxes and $2,383 in penalties from 2003 and 2004

Nevermind, the IRS caught him first. I wonder if he thought the IMF was remitting withholding taxes on his behalf? Of course even if this is the case he should have noticed he didn't receive a W-2 for 5 years.

The transition official requested anonymity because the source was not authorized to discuss Geithner's situation.

If I was Obama I would fire all the transition officials with extreme prejudice making sure that the entire business public knew that these people could not be trusted.

"I wonder if he thought the IMF was remitting withholding taxes on his behalf? "

Whether he thought that or not, he knew for sure when they notified him in 2006. He still didn't pay until late 2008 or early 2009.

Like I said, this either indicates an intentional disregard for our tax laws, or incompetence as to the existence of a fairly basic requirement that requires the self-employed to remit their own taxes. Either way - how does that not keep Obama from appointing him?

Geithner also didn't realize a housekeeper he paid in 2004 and 2005 did not have current employment documentation as an immigrant for the final three months she worked for him, the transition official said.

Doh!

"#12 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-13 08:08 PM | Reply"

I would've thought Republicans and their near-clones Libertardicans would applaud a tax evader.

I would've thought Republicans and their near-clones Libertardicans would applaud a tax evader.

Libertarians applauded that fucktard that shut himself up in New Hampshire. Hell they wrote songs about him.

Anyway, the self employment tax rules do suck balls, but that is no excuse. I just can't think of any reasonable cause on his behalf, especially with his background.

"who shut himself up..." not "that". Typed that really quick earlier.

I can see this all happening quite easily. Foreign income tax credit can get quite confusing and cannot be claimed in its entire amount. Must be done over a 5 year period.

After the error was found it sounds like he was doing all the necessary things to stay legal. I have no problem here.

"foreign income tax credit can get quite confusing"

It should not be confusing to the head of the US Treasury.

"After the error was found it sounds like he was doing all the necessary things to stay legal."

He was notified of his past due taxes in 2006. He did not pay them until now. How is that acceptable for the person in charge of collecting taxes in the United States?

"I would've thought Republicans and their near-clones Libertardicans would applaud a tax evader."

I don't applaud anyone who breaks the law, regardless of their motives. Given his political background, I doubt he did this out of protest - more likely out of stupidity or arrogance.

I have no problem here.

You have no problem with the Treasury secretary not understanding the tax codes? Figures.

That's rich

After the error was found it sounds like he was doing all the necessary things to stay legal

Of course he was. Once you're caught, the name of the game is to stay out of jail.

Once you're caught, the name of the game is to stay out of jail.

Really? I thought it was to be compliant. Do you know how many people actually go to jail for tax related issues?

more likely out of stupidity or arrogance.

Or greed, or believing one is above the law.

I still would like to see if he meets the standard for reasonable cause. I have helped a lot of taxpayers get out of penalties and interest due to reasonable cause. However, I have never helped anyone with Mr. Geithner's background - generally they either a) have good accountants who are on top of things, or b) know the laws themselves. I strongly advise individuals to NOT prepare their own self employment taxes unless they know what they are doing - I never did my own when I was a contract worker.

Taxman

How is your wife coming along with the "soon to be" little tax deduction you all expect soon? Feeling fine, I hope.

Really? I thought it was to be compliant.

Exactly. If you are not compliant, you go to jail

"I still would like to see if he meets the standard for reasonable cause."

Reasonable cause is the standard for average civilians. I would expect the Treasury Secretary to be held to a higher standard.

I would've thought Republicans and their near-clones Libertardicans would applaud a tax evader.

#14 | Posted by nullifidian

And go against Joe Biden? Please. After all, we are all patriotic Americans.

Reasonable cause is the standard for average civilians. I would expect the Treasury Secretary to be held to a higher standard.

Well, as much as I can see what you are saying but the law expects the same from everyone.

"Foreign income tax credit can get quite confusing and cannot be claimed in its entire amount."

The IMF headquarters are in Washington, DC. There's no evidence he was earning income from foreign sources, his problem was not paying self-employment taxes - something any independent contractor knows they have to do.

Further, even if his tax situation was complicated (which it is not), I'd expect our incoming treasury secretary to be the type of person who gets tax help when they're in a situation they don't understand.

"the law expects the same from everyone."

I think you're missing the point. I don't think he should be punished by the IRS any more than the average person. I'm saying that when selecting someone for Treasury Secretary, I'd hope they know that self-employed Americans have to pay their own FICA and SS taxes. And that when they are told by the IRS that they owe the money, that they aren't the type of person that waits until they are nominated for Treasury Secretary two years later before they pay the bill.

I think what Joe is trying to say is as the Employer We should expect more out of a prospective Employee than we would expect out of the average person down the street because they represt the Company of US of A inc.

Joe,

I find no reasonable argument against what you are saying.

In fact, I agree with you.

Another interesting angle on this story is that Sarah Palin's supposed tax issues caused quite the stir from the left even though she has never been told by a governmental authority that she owes any money. Why doesn't this, a more clear-cut failure to pay owed taxes, bother anyone when this guy is going to head the Treasury dept?

Joe, can you say REPUBLICAN!

Let's chew it abit finer. He is unfit to serve Public Office for:
A. Failing to pay taxes
B. For failing to come clean about his lack of paying taxes.
C. For paying a portion of said taxes after Nov. 2nd.

It figures Joe posted this thread. If it was a Republican choice you wouldn't hear a thing from Joe.

Well, as much as I can see what you are saying but the law expects the same from everyone.

The law may expect the same from everyone, but everyone should expect the best of our leaders.

Would you want a chef who couldn't make a creme brulee? Would you want a mechanic who couldn't change a tire? Would you want a dentist who didn't brush his teeth? Would you want a gardener who couldn't grow tomatoes?

Then why would anyone want a treasury secretary who dosn't understand the tax code,or at least isn't smart enough to find someone who is! (and why not hire that guy? LOL)

"If it was a Republican choice you wouldn't hear a thing from Joe."

Show me someone Bush appointed whose actions so glaringly contradicted his future duties within the administration and I will say the same thing about him.

"Show me someone Bush appointed..."

Show me some threads you posted blasting his picks.

Everything is going to plan CC, thanks for asking.

Goat, you don't going to jail just for making mistakes, the IRS has to prove willful evasion.

Show me the republican choices were put up in the media for such.

As you pointed out Joe, sarah and how did that go.

It figures Joe posted this thread. If it was a Republican choice you wouldn't hear a thing from Joe/>

And . . .?

"Show me some threads you posted blasting his picks."

Tell me who I should have posted one about and I will look for it. Otherwise, STFU with your pointless hypotheticals.

but the law expects the same from everyone.

Actually, when applying the reasonable cause standard for abatement of penalties one's education level can be a factor in determining whether there was actually an innocent mistake. The same applies for equitable innocent spouse relief. A spouse who has been stuck with a tax bill due to the actions of the other spouse has a higher chance of getting out of paying the taxes and/or penalties if they merely have a high school diploma as compared to someone with a law degree.

"Otherwise, STFU with your pointless hypotheticals.

#41 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-13 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Loser has no retort

Timothy Geithner paid most of the past-due taxes days before Obama announced his nomination in November, an Obama transition official said. The unpaid taxes were discovered by Obama's transition team while investigating Geithner's background, the official said....

I don't know about the rest of you but to me $34,000 is a chuck of change not to have paid in taxes to the IRS!

Obama needs to toss this guy to the curb.

After the last eight years we don't need the slightest wiff of stench of any more corruption and trying to get around the rules and regulations.

Find somebody smart and squeeky clean to be Secretary of the Treasury.

It's good that Obama's transition team caught the fact this guy hadn't paid his taxes but here's what I don't understand -- why would Obama have even announced this guy as his pick for Treasury Secretary back in November BEFORE his transition team had fully vetted him? It should work the other way around. ESPECIALLY now with the big cloud on Treasury and all the questions the public has about where the Bush bailout billions have gone and the rest.

The majority of Americans have had it up to here with political scoundrals -- from both parties.

#43 | Posted by nullifidian

It doesn't really matter if I can or cannot retort your typical attempt to make the thread about me rather than about the Treasury Secretary who doesn't pay his taxes. In the end, you are still pathetic, and so is the Geithner pick.

Null, who cares about the poster, the fact is it isn't very responsible to appoint someone who either a) doesn't know anything about the Internal Revenue Code, or b) has a total disregard for the Internal Revenue Code.

I will point out that the cause of the delay in payment was probably due to the fact that he went through appeals and probably a collection due process hearing (maybe even an offer in compromise meeting) before he paid. Generally, this process takes quite a bit of time.

Chris - Obama has reiterated his support for this guy even after this story has come out.

"I will point out that the cause of the delay in payment was probably due to the fact that he went through appeals and probably a collection due process hearing (maybe even an offer in compromise meeting) before he paid. Generally, this process takes quite a bit of time."

You're assuming he went through all that. Why give him the benefit of the doubt, especially on an issue as clear-cut as the failure to pay self-employment taxes? And why, if that is what happened, did he wait until Obama told him to pay the taxes to pay the taxes?

If Geithner was a Losertarian Joe would consider him a hero.

Never mind, I misread it.

Timothy Geithner paid most of the past-due taxes days before Obama announced his nomination in November, an Obama transition official said. The unpaid taxes were discovered by Obama's transition team while investigating Geithner's background, the official said....

Obama's transition team did discover it before the November announcement.

Still, isn't there one single person who has a clean background Obama can put as Secretary of the Treasury rather than the public always having to accept various excuses for the different wrongs that always keep popping up with these politicians.

ANYONE who committed a wrong of a financial nature should not be in the running for a position like Secretary of the Treasury -- no way, no how.

Geithner is unqualified to be the SoT. Pur and simple.

Who the heck is doing the vetting? Not someone smart that is for sure.

This goes with Now SEC pick in legal troubleMary L. Schapiro, Bill Richardson and Eric Holder

Joe, you know as well as I do that if the IRS sends you a letter saying you owe taxes you don't just fork over the money, nor would any practitioner advise his client to do the same. You go through the process of determining whether the IRS actually has made a valid adjustment to your tax liability. This process generally takes an extended period. As for the payment, I would imagine that they were hoping this would all go away through payment, but it never does. They should have just been open about it.

Mr. Geithner should withdraw, and his nomination should never have been submitted. Obama should ask him to step aside instead of supporting his continuance.

The citizenry is expecting the smartest people who are available and willing, to fill these possitions. This guy does not fit the bill.

If Geithner was a Losertarian Joe would consider him a hero.

#49 | Posted by nullifidian

No Nulll--but you think Obama and his picks walk on water..

Do you think the guy should go away or not?

Chris - Obama has reiterated his support for this guy even after this story has come out.

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-13 10:20 PM

Why? Especially now with all the questions as to the honesty within the Treasury and Wall Street.

I could find it easier to accept if Obama had just said this guy having not paid his taxes just got by him somehow but now that he knows, Obama no longer supports the guy.

Hope it's not another case of "meet the old boss, same as the old boss." I had higher hopes.

"No Nulll--but you think Obama and his picks walk on water.."

You are lying again, Murphy. I never said anything that could be remotely construed that way. If anything I was one of the critics of the Obamites. So STFU until you have something truthful to say.

Joe,

You are making up a whole lot of supposition and assuming it is true.

I hate to break it to you but more and more Nulli is sounding more and more correct.

I am surprised there are no Boortz fans here calling for a national sales tax and/or a flat tax. Generally a thread dealing with taxes brings out all of those morons.

Moneywar, I don't give a shit what you or Null thinks. Anyone with a brain recognizes that a person who doesn't pay his taxes isn't fit to be Treasury Secretary. Whether you have a brain or not, that isn't my problem.

Taxman, I know the procedure - I also know that it doesn't typically take two years for the IRS to prove that you owe self-employment taxes when you did not pay them. If it was a dispute as to amount, everyone has the option of paying the taxes and disputing after the fact. This also abates interest.

No Nulll--but you think Obama and his picks walk on water..

What disengenuous bull shit, first it is obama walking on water and now it is any pick.

Talk about bringing down the republican party, it goes ever further into the hole and won't climb out until they actually gain understanding from the main street masses.

everyone has the option of paying the taxes and disputing after the fact. This also abates interest.

You only have to pay if you received a statutory of notice of deficiency and want to get into district court. And it doesn't abate interest, it stops the running of interest. A smart practitioner knows that you don't pay until you absolutely have to, unless you want to get in to USDC.

I also know that it doesn't typically take two years for the IRS to prove that you owe self-employment taxes when you did not pay them

I never read where he didn't pay any self employment taxes, just he neglected to count this IMF amount. Also, when did he first receive notice from the IRS?

Nevermind Joe, just read the 2006 notice part. Still it doesn't surprise me. I have seen these things drag out for years.

#56 | Posted by nullifidian

You didn't answer the question Null..

Do you or do you not think this guy should withdraw??

Same question for MW--

The still-unpaid taxes were discovered by Obama's transition team while investigating Geithner's background. Obama's staff told senators about the tax issues Dec. 5.

Finance Committee chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) said he still hoped Geithner could be confirmed on inauguration day, asking senators for unanimous consent to skirt rules and schedule a hearing as early as Friday.

"These errors were not intentional; they were honest mistakes," Baucus said after he and other committee members met with Geithner behind closed doors on Tuesday.

But the committee's ranking Republican, Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley, hasn't conceded to Baucus' request for a quick hearing. Grassley believes the revelations are "serious, and whether or not it's disqualifying is to be determined," spokeswoman Jill Kozeny said.

Another prominent Republican, however, spoke up for Geithner. Utah Senator Orrin Hatch, another committee member, said he continues to support the nominee.

"I have no problem," Hatch told Fox News. "He's a very, very competent guy."

After senators met with Geithner, the panel released 30 pages of documents detailing his tax errors - and also how he came to employ a housekeeper whose legal immigrant work status had briefly lapsed in 2005.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) dismissed the events as "a few little hiccups," and said he was "not concerned at all" about the impact.

Obama reiterated his support for Geithner.

Interesting that they knew since december and began to use it now. Suppose this is a republican political thing........Joe, you're not looking so good now.

Do you or do you not think this guy should withdraw?

And it's worse that Obama knew and still dismisses it.

Not to mention Harry "the body" Reid.

I predict the guy is out tomorrow.

Geithner, plucked from his job as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to serve as Obama's treasury secretary, told transition officials and senators that he didn't know he owed self-employment taxes when he worked for the International Monetary Fund.

He failed to pay self-employment taxes for money he earned while working for IMF from 2001 to 2003, according to materials released by the Senate committee. In 2006, the IRS notified him that he owed $14,847 in self-employment taxes and $1,885 in interest from 2003 and 2004, which he paid after an audit. The IRS waived penalties for those tax years.

Transition officials discovered last fall that Geithner also had not paid the taxes in 2001 or 2002. He paid $25,970 in back taxes and interest for those years several days before Obama announced his choice, the committee documents showed.

Geithner and his supporters have said his mistake was a common one for people hired by international organizations that don't pay the employer share of Social Security taxes. Geithner told Obama's team and senators that an accountant had reviewed his tax returns after Geithner prepared them and didn't discover the problem.

But some tax experts said the problem is not that common.

Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of tax for the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, said it would be difficult for someone preparing a tax return for a self-employed person to skip the Social Security and Medicare tax lines.

"It's such a basic mistake that I kind of wonder if we know all the facts," Ochsenschlager said of Geithner's situation.

In order to be fair Joe has validity in what he is saying.

I predict the guy is out tomorrow.

Aint gonna happen.

TG is too well liked by both sides of the house to be stalled by this, admittedly, bad (and deeply ironic) stuff.

Fails to pay 34,000 in taxes from 2001 to 2004?
IRS writes him in '06 to inform him?
He pays "most" of his backtaxes then but not all?
Doesn't pay in toto until shortly before him nom is announced?
Obama's vetting team had to catch this cos he didn't volunteer it?

Yeesh!

The worst part fer Spud is wot he was doing when FAILed to pay his taxes from '01 to '04.

Working fer the IMF.

/Not esplaining that just sayin'.

Anyone else in this position and yeah, he would be withdrawing his name quicker than you can say "Bill Richardson" but Spud largely suspects that won't be the case here.

Call it a hunch.

Wait and see.

Be Well.

/On the plus side it looks like Obama is gonna announce his tech advisor, Julius Genachowski, as head of the FCC who believes in Net Neutrality which was kinda a concern fer blogga boi Spud here.

Typical murphy doesn't understand the political issues.

He was president of federal reserve bank, no politician is going to buck this too long for risk of losing their own financial support.

"You didn't answer the question Null..

Do you or do you not think this guy should withdraw??

#64 | Posted by MURPHY "

I don't really care, Murphy. Go ahead and hyperventilate about some tax questions concerning an Obama nominee, if you wish. You would probably drop dead if not for that desperate hope that Obama and his team will be failures.

It is also funny, the republican righties have been posting and wishing the failure of Obama for some months now, and it would stand to reason that they would rather have him pass so it would make them feel like they are that much closer to getting their wish.

Murphy, what is you problem? you want obama to fail so you should love this pick.

Murphy, what is you problem? you want obama to fail so you should love this pick.

#72 | Posted by moneywar

That's true. It's not often I find myself on the same side of anything as Murphy. It honestly makes me wonder what the hell I'm thinking!

Oh wait...I know what I'm thinking. I'm not an apologist for somebody just because I voted for them, like many of the reich wing partisan hacks around here have been for much of the last 8 years!

Tim Geithner should be opposed for a more fundamental reason: he believes in the Bush/Frank/Dodd method of saving Wall Street investment banks. The fact that he didn't see fit to pay his taxes until there was a more lucrative deal on the other side of 2008 is just a metaphor.

Obama is losing steam, and he's not even president yet.

Oh, this could be a fun 4-8 years...

OTOH, good luck picking much of anyone that isn't a whore for DC work.

DIDN`T PAY TAX?...WELL..HE JUST FORGOT...IT`S NOT A BIG THING...

Taxman,
You have to be kidding!
This crook worked for the IMF. He was told by his tax preparer in 2006 that deducting overnight camping trips for his kids wasn't legal. He did NOT go back and file amended returns for previous years when he took these illegal deductions.

That was minor. The Self Employment tax is paid for BY THE IMF. They don't remit the money, they ADD it to your income, they provide you a statement EVERY THREE MONTHS of how much extra they paid you so you can pay that money to the IRS.
At the end of the year they provide you an annual statement that lists how much they gave you to pay to the IRS. This figure is listed right below the regular Federal and State tax figures on the statement. HE PAID those other two amounts every year. HE DID his own taxes most of those years using tax preparation software that would FLAG any errors. He would have had to manually override the flags for the tax prep software to print his return.

Wait, it gets BETTER.
At the start of each year he had to WRITE AN APPLICATION for the "Gross Up Amounts" that are needed to pay the Federal, State and Self Employment Tax. He had to fill it out and sign it If you look at Appendix I, Item 10, you will see how clearly the form states what these additional funds provided to him by the IMF are for. He is to remit it to the IRS and state governments because the IMF doesn't pay Self Employment or any other taxes nor Social Security taxes for their international employees.
EVERY year he filled out this form and signed it.

Last, but far from least, the IMF provides EACH employee with a 28 page detailed pamphlet instructing them exactly how to pay their Self Employment taxes. This pamphlet lists the additional IRS forms that need to be filed and examples of exactly what figures to take from the annual report provided to the employee and exactly where on the IRS form each figure goes. They list this for each filing mode, married, married filing separately, single, etc.

There is NO WAY that this can be an innocent error that was overlooked by this man. It was premeditated tax fraud because he signed the form that pledged that the additional monies provided by the IMF to pay the Self Employment taxes would be paid by him. He had to make a premeditated decision to not pay money that wasn't his to begin with.

This is quite different from you or I, who would have had to earn additional monies to pay Self Employment taxes.

Shyguy,

Good information, quite telling.

I now tend to agree, this guy should not be confirmed and Obama should be given a stern verbal warning about putting such people up for review.

Like I said to murphy, this guy was president of federal reserve bank of new york, he will get passed with flying colors. The last president who didn't do what the federal reserve wanted was carter, and we all know how that turned out.

So Obama's team discovered this and yet Obama still nominated this guy.

Hmmm, where did all that carefull judgement go. I mean he claimed he was going to change Washington politics as usual. I think he really meant that he would bring the same old usual corruption and incompetence to office.

The more I think about this the angrier I get.

What the hell is obama thinking? This guy was a bush crony and now has proven to be just as crooked all the while obama knew this since early December.

When we elected the democratic party to majority I stand that they are in bed with the republicans, this is just another footnote to prove such a statement.

We have major problems with our government and it is going to destroy this nation.

So we have an extremely important position being filled by another tax cheat?? There is NO WAY he was confused or made an honest mistake.

My son worked for the World Bank, same deal. They don't withhold, the employee must pay alot in taxes come April 15. ALL their employees know it, BAR NONE.

He was notified by the IRS that he owed taxes plus penalties and interest. AND HE STILL DIDN'T PAY. I'm sure in his head of the NY Federal Reserve he felt privileged and above having to pay piety taxes....

MW You are correct, this is extremely damaging. I thought the guy was a good pic, save for how he oversaw the bankruptcy of Lehman.....

He was notified he owed the tax, years after it was due. And.....he doesn't pay! Hows that for balls. If you or I tried to ignore the IRS you can be shit sure they would freeze our accounts and take our properties.

Geitner used his position for his singular, PERSONAL advantage. HOW did Obama pic him for such a high position?

DAVETHEWAVE,

I have no idea how or why obama picked him but it clearly shows that obama is not what he spouts.

The country is not going to do much as far as change with obama knowing the crooks and still choses them.

He is a Democrat, no news here. He will be approved. Frank already said it was a non-issue. Put this guy in charge of the Treasury.

Here is the Senate report - pretty self explanatory.

The Biased MSM made no mention of this last night. B.O. must have picked up his 4 year pass a few days early.

I have nothing to add here beyond what Taxman, Joe, and Moneywar (the late convert) have provided except to say....

...where are all the usual suspects on this thread...?

Holy fucking shit, how many times did that dumb-fucker Moneywar flip flop in this thread?

Hagbard,
Starvis, Amernutty, and SanAnne are waiting for Andrew Sullivan to tell them what to say and think.
They must realize that the usual BS has gotten laughable.

Holy fucking shit, how many times did that dumb-fucker Moneywar flip flop in this thread?

I noticed that, too, but I didn't say anything because I didn't want to send him off on one of his "All-goatman-does-is-attack-
people" whining jags again.

So far anyway, some Senate Democrats, and a few key Republicans, agree. Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) said the revelations did not disqualify Geithner, and he said it was crucial for Obama to have a new Treasury secretary in place when he takes office next week. Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) said he still supports Geithner.

Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member on the Finance Committee, has privately questioned whether Geithner's problems should derail his nomination and so far has refused to comment publicly.

OK so prominent republicans are saying this isn't a big deal and shouldn't disqualify him. Am I missing something?

Yeah, I was trying to be nice about that.

OK so prominent republicans are saying this isn't a big deal and shouldn't disqualify him. Am I missing something?
#91 | Posted by taxman

Probably that the problem is far more widespread in DC than this one case demonstrates, I think.

OK so prominent republicans are saying this isn't a big deal and shouldn't disqualify him. Am I missing something?

#91 | Posted by taxman at 2009-01-14 09:43 AM | Reply

Now prominent republicans can be trusted because they agree with Obama...

Now prominent republicans can be trusted because they agree with Obama...
#94 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Please, not the prominent republicans. I knew this was all a bad idea.

101, my point is that it seems fishy that republicans are backing this guy still. It seems to me that they should be jumping all over this guy and I can't figure out why they aren't.

101, my point is that it seems fishy that republicans are backing this guy still. It seems to me that they should be jumping all over this guy and I can't figure out why they aren't.

#96 | Posted by taxman at 2009-01-14 10:09 AM | Reply

Same with the Clinton hearings. The republicans are neutered, and they are waving the white flag.

The question isn't why the republicans are supporting him, why is obama supporting him?

Apparently the democratic party of change is way way more of the same.

obama has clearly decided that corporate welfare is far more important then helping the main street masses.

"Otherwise, STFU with your pointless hypotheticals.

#41 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-13 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag: Loser has no retort

#43 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-01-13 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: Irony

-The republicans are neutered

Yes, by the electorate, as it should be.

The Biased MSM made no mention of this last night. B.O. must have picked up his 4 year pass a few days early.

#86 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-01-14 09:09 AM

Not the same MSM which hung Bernard Kerik because of hiring illegal nannies?

Not the same MSM which hung Bernard Kerik because of hiring illegal nannies?

#101 | Posted by crispee_oc

No kidding. I'd love to know what Olbermann, Matthews and that Dyke, Maddow plan to do for the next 4 years. They can't just report on what B.O. is doing. They need stories that they can get emotional over.

They can't just report on what B.O. is doing. They need stories that they can get emotional over.

#102 | Posted by wisgod at 2009-01-14 10:55 AM | Reply

Enter the Sea Kitten.

Can't get very emotional when the person in charge of writing tax policy is himself unfit and didn't pay his own taxes. Couple that with a nominee in charge of monetary policies who failed to pay his own taxes.

But I am sure the two stooges and the dyke will report on Bush failing to put the toilet seat down instead of investigating any corrupt dems.

Now ain't that special? Throw his ass in jail!

Shouldn't failure to pay taxes automatically negate you from being Treas. Sec?

#8 | Posted by taxman at 2009-01-13 07:40 PM

well what do you expect

the FUCKIN chairman of the ways and means committee is being investigated for not paying taxes on a house he owns and there is little if any mention of it anywhere but in some of the media that I pay attention to

its democrats who are in 'their rightfull place'...

the majority which is thier divine right place to be and with the messiah at the head..SHIT LIKE THIS DOESNT MATTER ANYMORE

damn...dont you rightwing conservative hate mongering, trailor park residents, who marry thier cousing understand that

these people are so much smarter than all of us put together and they understand that this DOESNT MATTER ANymore because there is a "D " after thier name.

GEESH!!!

Barely a blip in the media. Go ahead & site numerous sources & link it up but you can't deny the quieter tone & lack of repitition in the reporting as opposed to if it were a republican then it would be hardcore on every talking head's lips ad nauseum. I suppose that's the way it should be given that republicans are the ONLY ones who screw the hard-working taxpayer & behave as if they're above the law?
I love how it's been, "oh by the way, the guy we want to handle YOUR money can't even handle his own, but in other news....Paris, Brangelina, George Clooney & Oprah are coming to the Messiah's coronation so it's COOL, he's COOL! It's probably just tax evasion! Wesley Snipes did it & he's a star & cool so its OK! We got this for you! Call your girlfriends & discuss the historical inauguration coming up & who Michelle will be wearing. Oh & don't forget to text me when you find out what kind of dog the girls are getting! You know the really important stuff? We'll handle everything for you, it'll be fine, we swear!"
Someone on the DR cited it as "Entertainment Tonight" reporting. Well said. Libs eager to make everything someone else's fault & have no personal responsibility, except anyone on the right they can lynch, will eat this up. (Oh No! Did I say lynch? How insensitive of me given the historical inauguration coming up, I'm a racist, I know) Note to media: Say historical as often as possible so it really will be. The power of suggestion you know because it isn't really historic unless we tell you it is a whole bunch.

Laying a bet now that the Messiah is People Magazines "sexiest man alive" next time around.

Change we can believe in. If this were Joe Six-pack he'd be under indictment.

and just look at our own little site here

the appointee to global warming bullshit is a member of socialist international who says that rich countries should "SHRINK THIER ECONOMIES" in the work of global warming and is in favor of a world socialist govenment and it gets WHAT>..

a thread with 39 people posting it..
and this from people who used to scream at the top of thier laptops with even the accusation that bush was all for world government...and yeah sure there is a difference between an environment czar and the pres but really now.....cant even the most fervent 'progressive' see a problem with all that????

and imagine the uproar if bushs secty of the treasury had been found to have not paid taxes for what we now know was FOUR YEARS...........holy shit it would have been one of those famous headlines at the top of our great place here.....

and now lets read all of the apologies for this dumbshit who wants to head the irs at the same time he STIFFS IT for thousands of bucks..

HEY WAIT A MINUTE>>>..this guy just might be a new hero of mine
so if he does the right thing and takes his name out.I bet he will be on an infomercial late at night

"yes people, you too can stiff the irs for thousands if you pay me three payments of 39.95.

Change we can believe in. If this were Joe Six-pack he'd be under indictment.

#107 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2009-01-
you got that right bro.....

screaming to high heaven and it would be a signal of the end of the republic and what do we get instead.

YAWN............

Someone on the DR cited it as "Entertainment Tonight" reporting. Well said.

#107 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2009-01-14 11:34 AM | Reply

Thanks.

As my wife said this morning after seeing the first hour of "Today", Obama can not possibly meet the expectations the press has been setting for him. I almost agreed, but had to add that Obama is also to blame. He's the one chanting Hope and Change, the media bought it, and personified it.

I'd love to know what Maileequa and Ney Ney had for breakfast this morning. My guess? Popeyes.

Only if they were out of Frosted Porkrinds.

Ya'll know what I'm talkin' 'bout....

and even look at the coverage of the inauguraton PRACTICE AND interviews with the man who stood in for barrywayne...
damn isnt there ANY other news for these maggots to cover???

The Biased MSM made no mention of this last night. B.O. must have picked up his 4 year pass a few days early.

#86 | Posted by wisgod

Which MSM were you watching? The MSM I was watching was all over it. You must just be parroting this mornings reich wing radio.

If the Secretary of the Treasury doesn't believe in paying his taxes, hard to see why I should.

This, friends, is finally some change I can believe in. Think of all the money I'll save, just by ignoring self-employment taxes from 1099 income.

Money in the bank. A few million people like me, and we might have this economy fixed after all.

I know the Chicago Tribune mentioned it, but only in the context of quotes from numerous senators saying they support Geithner, and with no critical remarks. I just ran a search of "Geithner" on Milwaukee's major newspaper site (jsonline) and they have zero articles about it.

Which MSM were you watching?
Posted by Whatsleft

ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CNN.

well RIR as someone said yesterday

the old hope and change mantra has been turned into hope for change or something like that

AND HE HASNT EVEN MOVED IN YET>....thats the weird part/////

whatsleft...sure they are talking about it but not in any way shape or form with the distain and the nastiness that it would have gotten if we were talking the other way around

and NOTICE THIS.....are you hearing dems being questioned about some of these things because IM not hearing much from schumer and others like that on these topics..........

the old hope and change mantra has been turned into hope for change or something like that

AND HE HASNT EVEN MOVED IN YET>....thats the weird part/////

#119 | Posted by bushlovertwo
* * *

it was "hope for change has become change the hope".

Brilliant line I thought.

Tim Geithner believes, as I do, that we can spend our money better than Washington can. It was only when he was offered a great job IN Washington that he cut the check.

And that's what I'll do. I'll avoid paying all the taxes I can, until someone taps me to head Treasury. Otherwise, nah.

I thought it was a good one too...I am just too old to remember things from that long ago...you know...yesterday.....

ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CNN.

#118 | Posted by wisgod

I was flipping between two of those channels and the Barrett-Jackson Auction last night. This story was on both of the news channels I looked at, and occupied an entire segment on CNN.

At least it's good for a laugh, watching Obama shit on his progressive supporters by appointing a tax evader as head of the treasury. And with such sweeping bipartisan support.

"I was flipping between two of those channels and the Barrett-Jackson Auction last night. This story was on both of the news channels I looked at, and occupied an entire segment on CNN."

#123 | Posted by Whatsleft

Were they "all over" how Obama's pick is drawing bipartisan support, friendly smiles, and general good will between political foes?

WOW....HE disclosed it and paid the taxes before this was ever an issue.

Is that why he republicans feign outrage? Because he actually did pay in the end?

Dry your eyes little bitches, Shrub is done. Deal with it!

WOW....HE disclosed it and paid the taxes before this was ever an issue.

Is that why he republicans feign outrage? Because he actually did pay in the end?

I got a fair shake.
Signed Bernard Kerik

WOW....HE disclosed it and paid the taxes before this was ever an issue.

#126 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-01-14 01:13 PM | Reply
|

Dumbfuck,
What part of the article did you not understand? The part about the Obama transition team discovering this? The part about him being alerted by the IRS in 2006? The part about him paying the taxes after it was an issue?

You're a fool.

"Is that why he republicans feign outrage? Because he actually did pay in the end?"

#126 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

No, it's because someone who fucked up (or evaded) their taxes is going to head the treasury department. Haven't we had enough retards/delinquents controlling our money in the last few years?

At least that's why I'm feigning outrage.

WOW....HE disclosed it and paid the taxes before this was ever an issue.

#126 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2009-01-14 01:13 PM

Of course had it been a repub it would have been because he got caught. Right?

The question isn't why the republicans are supporting him, why is obama supporting him?

#98 | Posted by moneywar at 2009-01-14 10:16 AM

Is that why he republicans feign outrage?

#126 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

I'm confused. Are the republians supporting him or are they feigning outrage? Y'all make up your mind.

Doesn't the IRS fall under the Treasury Department. How can the
IRs be run by a guy who didn't pay their taxes

#125 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

WisGod was trying to have us believe that the MSM wasn't reporting this story. While I may have been a little strong with the statement "they were all over it". The "MSM" was most certainly reporting on the story.

If you'll find my first post in this thread you will see that I don't agree with the politicos you mention. I think Geithner should step aside and Obama's people should explain the appointment.

If you really have a problem, let's hear it.

The Biased MSM made no mention of this last night. -- #86 | Posted by wisgod

CNN did.

...it seems fishy that republicans are backing this guy still. It seems to me that they should be jumping all over this guy and I can't figure out why they aren't. -- #96 | Posted by taxman

Geithner has worked with Paulson and Bernanke to engineer an enormous transfer of wealth from ordinary Americans to the very wealthy, and you wonder why Repubs aren't objecting to this pick?

Dumbfuck,
What part of the article did you not understand? The part about the Obama transition team discovering this? The part about him being alerted by the IRS in 2006? The part about him paying the taxes after it was an issue?

You're a fool.

#128 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2009-01-14 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ok, so he was alerted by the IRS and then paid the back taxes plus penalties.

OH THE HORROR!!!!!

Of course had it been a repub it would have been because he got caught. Right?

#130 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2009-01-14 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, I never said that, but think what you'd like. Matters not to me.

Actually he was alerted in 2006, then paid the taxes back when Obama told him to in late December 2008. Grow a brain.

WisGod was trying to have us believe that the MSM wasn't reporting this story. While I may have been a little strong with the statement "they were all over it". The "MSM" was most certainly reporting on the story.

Posted by Whatsleft

If I missed it during the reports on the "actors" practicing the inauguration, the shortage of Porta Johns at the inauguration and the controversy of the Digital TV switch, I apologize.

I worked for a couple of years where taxes were not taken from my wages. One year I hauled in a good amount of cash and the taxes at the end of the year were huge. Anyway, I didn't pay them in full that year. The very next year I received a letter from the IRS stating that it was about to garnish my wages to pay the taxes I owed. No warning letter, no letter saying that I could make payments or pay in part. No sir, they were just going to start taking it unless I paid.

I guess this didn't apply to Geithner.

Ok, so he was alerted by the IRS and then paid the back taxes plus penalties.

OH THE HORROR!!!!!

From anyone else, no big deal. For the Secretary of the Treasury, it is a horror.

Would you want Obama to select a supreme court justice who couldn't defend a traffic ticket? How about a commerce secretary who didn't understand how tarrifs worked?

Likewise, a Treasury secretary should understand the tax laws, don't you think?

Ok, so he was alerted by the IRS and then paid the back taxes plus penalties.

OH THE HORROR!!!!!

#135 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

It's a helluva lot more dirt than the left ever had on Bork.

If I missed it during the reports on the "actors" practicing the inauguration... -- #138 | Posted by wisgod

FWIW, I was looking for video of the Carville/Bennett debate over the Clinton hearings that CNN ran last night, but apparently CNN didn't think it was nearly as important as "How to Dress Michelle Obama."

"Timothy Geithner paid most of the past-due taxes days before Obama announced his nomination in November, an Obama transition official said."

Most, not all. And he saw no reason to bring that up in the nomination process? Idiot.

...a Treasury secretary should understand the tax laws, don't you think? -- #140 | Posted by goatman

It's not just a matter of understanding them. As TheShyGuy pointed out, it took a fair amount of effort to evade them in the first place --#77 | Posted by TheShyGuy.

Then, after being notified in 2006, he paid only the portion that the IRS had caught, even though he had to have known at that point that he also owed back taxes for previous years where he made the same "mistake."

This pick is right up there with Ashcroft for AG.

"If you really have a problem, let's hear it."
#133 | Posted by Whatsleft

No problem here:

If you'll find my first post in this thread you will see that I don't agree with the politicos you mention. I think Geithner should step aside and Obama's people should explain the appointment.

And the hits just keep on comming. Good thing the country voted for CHANGE.......

I encourage everyone to come to grips with this simple rule:

Republican's represent a higher standard and are therefore held to one.

Democrat's represent a lower standard and are therefore held to one.

Right or wrong, it is what it is and that's that.

Republican's represent a higher standard and are therefore held to one.

What more could they have done to fail? Maybe another war, or triple the debt instead of merely doubling it; what if they had allowed TWO 9/11 attacks to occur on their watch. Should they have wrecked the US economy twice?

But you don't see them as a failure at all. Is that that "higher standard" you have the gall to speak of?

A double standard Betelg. Kinda of like ABC ripping Bush for spending 40 million...... "AP Slammed Bush's Extravagant' Inaugural in '05, But Now It's Spend, Baby, Spend"

but now they cheer Obam for his spending 45 million. You know, being hypocritical? or is that so accepted to the left, you are too blind to see it?

As for geitner, I read the wire services today, and it seems that he's acceptable to both parties, so it's not going to be used to hang him.

It was an error.

BetelG,

Trent Lott vs Robert Byrd
Newt Gingrich vs John Edwards
Aspirin factory vs GWT
Dot-com bust vs housing bust
Jimmy Carter economy vs G.W. Bush economy

That's all I can think off off the top of my head. I have to leave for work or I would dig up some more.

If I don't pay my taxes can I be in his cabinet?

When do I get my check from Obama?

When is he going to start paying for my gas and paying my mortgage?

I know this link is old news, but it is still so funny.

If I missed it during the reports on the "actors" practicing the inauguration, the shortage of Porta Johns at the inauguration and the controversy of the Digital TV switch, I apologize.

#138 | Posted by wisgod

Okay, well I'm glad that's cleared up!

lol

Jimmy Carter economy vs G.W. Bush economy

#152 | Posted by libertarian_gi

Not even close. The carter economy was way down in the ditch, not just over the drunk bumps.

"The carter economy was way down in the ditch, not just over the drunk bumps."

Nice try, but no cigar.

Americans across this nation are opening their second quarterly retirement statements reflecting even more of their own money gone in a blink.

Nice try.

Hans

well when your choice for labor sec dosen't know what a right to work law is what do you expect-----libs throw
the dummies out and replace them by idiots
jasman

Commonsense,
"Ok, so he was alerted by the IRS and then paid the back taxes plus penalties."

Totally untrue.

He was alerted by the IRS NUMEROUS times all the way back into the mid-1990's, yet he continued cheating on his income taxes.

He did NOT immediately pay when informed by the IRS.

He was notified in 2006 and paid what he owed for 2003 and 2004. BUT he didn't pay what he owed for 2001 and 2002 until Nov 21, 2008. That was the day he was announced as Obama's appointee to the Treasury position. Could you or I not pay the IRS for back taxes until 6 years, 7 months and 6 days after it was due for the 2001 taxes ($2,364 plus interest of $956) and 5yr, 7mo and 6 days for the 2002 taxes ($16,812 plus interest of $5,837)? I think not.
Could you or I cheat the IRS out of over $34,000 in taxes and not get charged a penalty like he was? You can bet not, particularly when it was the same offense as he had committed TWICE before.

In addition to the $34,000 in Self Employment taxes he received from the IMF and kept instead of paid to the IRS, he also was paid funds to pay for his Social Security taxes for all four years and kept that money as well without paying one cent to the FICA tax fund.

He has also not paid FICA taxes for his employees for the years 1993, 1994 and 1995 as well as Maryland State taxes for those employees. He finally paid those funds in 1996. These again are funds he took from his employee's paychecks and kept for his own use instead of forwarding them to SSA. He later, in 1998, miscalculated Medicare taxes for one or more employees.
So you see, he has had a number of run ins with the IRS prior to the 2001-2006 non-payments, as well as illegal deductions for child care that he never re-filed to correct after a tax professional told him they were not legal deductions.

In addition, Geithner was PAID those funds BY THE IMF and chose to keep them for himself instead of paying them to the IRS. That is a criminal act, diversion of funds.

That is the point you refuse to acknowledge, that he didn't merely not pay his income taxes, but instead took money that the IMF provided to him with his full knowledge to pay to the IRS and kept them for himself.

It would be the equivalent of me giving you $500 to pick up my car from the auto repair shop and you took off with the money without paying for my car repair.

I don't know how much clearer I can make this crime that he committed.

#158 | Posted by TheShyGuy

*crickets*

Republicans or Democrats who cares! They both figured out that getting this guy in as Mr Tax Man is a sure way to get their Corporate friends some of that Bailout money that all of us will pay for decades to come. It doesn't take a genius to understand all their smiles and handshakes are for his nomination. We deserve what we elected. Try and change it and the courts are on their side.

This idiot is totally unqualified--he should drop out--I suggest late Friday the 16th. And he was at Citi while it was doing the risky loans and going blub blub..

I am sending emails to jerk Repubs.

And onto the next pick for pushing socialism--as if we don't have an overload already--

Carol Browner

by RightisRight #121

Tim Geithner believes, as I do, that we can spend our money better than Washington can. It was only when he was offered a great job IN Washington that he cut the check.

And that's what I'll do. I'll avoid paying all the taxes I can, until someone taps me to head Treasury. Otherwise, nah.

1) if the head of the US House Banking committee does NOT understand tax code
2) and the head of the IRS does NOT understand tax code

it's irrational that you should be expected to understand it ...
and illogical that IRS enforcement agents understand it either

This idiot is totally unqualified

Not totally unqualified. Just not deserved of the post. Hold him accountable. He should not get it.

More importantly, hold Henry Paulson accountable for giving away so much of our money with no accountability.

While we're at it, how about some independent investigations of all the unconstitutional policies of the current administration?

This country need an enema.

This country need an enema.

...an icewater enema, to be exact...

Will the adults admit what a complete dope Obama is after he doubles our deficit in 4 years and we get attacked?

Do we remember Bush got handed a recession from Clinton, then had the worst attack on the homeland in history. Bush warned numerous times about the Fannie/Freddie disaster created by the Democrats. History will be kind to GWB and will find Obama as incompetent.

Do you people also believe in Man-made Global Warming?

"This country need an enema."

Damn sure does, but the problem is deciding in which asshole to stick the nozzle first.

FF

did you see 101chair joke on superman in the flagged section?

"Bush warned numerous times about the Fannie/Freddie disaster created by the Democrats."

There is MUCH evidence as to who the villains are. Some people will just refuse to accept it:

"There is MUCH evidence "

So if the problem began in 2001, and the Republicans controlled all three branches for the next six years, exactly what did they do to address the "potential problem"? They had parliamentary control, and could have invoked the nuclear option if needed. Did they, or is this just an admission they can't govern even when they're in power?

Or is someone actually trying to peddle the lie a minority member of a Republican-majority committee has more power than a fart in a windstorm?

Damn sure does, but the problem is deciding in which asshole to stick the nozzle first.

#167 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Nancy gets one of my votes here...though

Geithner

clinton

rangel

jefferson

hsu

blago

burris - his treatment

the other clinton

richardson

ah, the party of purity

oops, almost forgot...

160,000,000 for his inauguration.

US President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration on January 20 is expected to cost a whopping $150 million, making it the most expensive in the American history.

Obama's inauguration expenses are likely to be to the tune of over $150 million, overshadowing the USD 42.3 million spent on George Bush's inauguration in 2005

Obama's inauguration expenses are likely to be to the tune of over $150 million, overshadowing the USD 42.3 million spent on George Bush's inauguration in 2005

Posted by scooter28054

so what's the dollar worth in comparison since GW stole the first Presidental election?

1/5 or what?

150mil is worth it cause he is the chosen one, he's black and a liberal so he can get away with it, im sure you wont see many lib's on this board hammering him for that, they will just mis-direct and say its bush's fault some how.

Why were there no penalties, that does not seem like the IRS. This man is not fit to mointor my taxes He does not know the rules.

WOW....HE disclosed it and paid the taxes before this was ever an issue.

Is that why he republicans feign outrage? Because he actually did pay in the end?

Dry your eyes little bitches, Shrub is done. Deal with it!

#126 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at

wow you could fit right in with the media...its being whitewashed really nicely

even mo down....(who has an updated pic on column and wHO WOULDNT want some of that....something about putting something in her mouth to keep from hearing that WHINING>>>.oops...did I digress a little...)
ANYWAY>...in her last column she had a two sentence paragraph about this prick.....what media bullshit.

DOWD DOWD DOWD DOWD DOWD

Geithner should not be appointed. It seems he has taken liberty with laws you and I would be punished for.

But, he is the acceptable jewish banker who knows where some of the bodies are buried so he can keep them buried.

Move on nothing to see here...

Ok, lets review. John Tower's nomination voted down on along strictly partisan lines to recommend his rejection as Defense Secretary he was plagued by an unusually long list of allegations about purported drinking problems, misconduct toward women and lax attitudes toward conflicts created by his work as a consultant to military contractors. Bob Dole said at the time "After what we've done to this good man, maybe we ought to hang our heads.He knows he's being shot down because he's a Republican and there are more Democrats than Republicans.''

In 2001, President George W. Bush nominated Chavez for Secretary of Labor. She was the first Hispanic woman nominated to a United States cabinet. She withdrew the nomination after it was revealed, through her neighbor Margaret "Peggy" Zwisler, that she had allegedly given money to Marta Mercado, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala who lived in her home more than a decade earlier.

Zoe Baird, President Clinton's first choice for attorney general in 1993, lasted for eight days between revelation and surrender. Ms. Baird had once hired an illegal immigrant and failed to pay Social Security taxes for the employee was also rejected.

Now let's move to Obama:

Timothy Geithner is up for Treasury Secretary did not pay OR FILE his TAXES for 3 YEARS. This is a criminal offense. What do the ultra-clean no corruption Democrats do?
HARRY REID, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Timothy Geithner is a person that is extremely well-qualified to be one of the finest secretaries of treasury this country has ever had

We have Carol Browner a Socialist International Member as "Climate Czar" ( no conflict of interest there huh) According to The Wall Street Journal, Browner's lobbyist husband worked on behalf of Exxon Mobil, Chevron and KeySpan Energy! In 2006, Browner even collaborated with her husband when he lobbied for Dubai Ports World as it attempted to acquire a company that operates six major U.S. ports.

We have Hillary Clinton up for Secretary of State And it turns out she voted for allowing the Saudi's to have Nuclear Weapons right after her HUSBAND got the job for managing a portions of the Saud's investment portfolio.

And of course we have Eric Holder who said " Ok ship the kid back to Cuba under gun point" and YES Mr. Clinton Pardon Mark Rich you got paid and laid by his wifeit's the least you can do.

Where is the outrage in the Media that took out Baird, Tower and Chaves for much less offenses? Where are the attacks? Where is the questioning of Qualification? Where are the articles about the rampant coruption in the Democratic party?

Ah yesforgot.it is only a one way street. And you sheep stand by and watch it happen to your country.OHH BAAAA MAAAA

Ah yesforgot.it is only a one way street. And you sheep stand by and watch it happen to your country.OHH BAAAA MAAAA

Posted by foshaffer

well, apparently you did while the two terrorists in chief ruined our country & still trying to finish the job by letting Israel do what they do best enroute to Iran ~ somehow/someway

Bani,

If you think that having a 4%-5% unemployment rate after 9 -11, increase of 5 M + Jobs, no attack on US soil since then, draining the swamp in Iraq and establishing a democracy there as well as kicking the Taliban out of Afganistan - Ruining the country - then you deserve what you will get with a Dem congress and a Dem (Dim?) President and the horribly leftest corrupt entourage.

so...BAA BAA Sheep.....

even mo down....(who has an updated pic on column and wHO WOULDNT want some of that....something about putting something in her mouth to keep from hearing that WHINING>>>.oops...did I digress a little...)
ANYWAY>...in her last column she had a two sentence paragraph about this prick.....what media bullshit.

#177 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2009-01-15 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

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mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble
mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble
mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble
mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble.....

.......are you trying to say something?

"Obama treasury pick failed to pay taxes"

He must be a good democratic liberal like Al (The Clown) FRANKEN. He didn't pay his taxes either until the IRS caught him.

Why is it that when it comes to taxes, Dems are such douchebags?

"Why is it that when it comes to taxes, Dems are such douchebags?

#185 | Posted by rightisright "

Hey, RightisRetarded, you could be more concise by just saying: "Dems are douchebags" which is all you really said anyway.

Wow. What a killer comeback, null. Tell him he needs to leave out the word 'such'. That's why you are the wonder boy of the DR.

#187 | Posted by Petty-Goat

My own personal troll follows me to another thread. Guess he can't find another of his puppet masters (Bob, Hans, Spud, etc.)to bother.

My own personal troll

hmm. Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah -- I use it all the time to describe you.

Real original stuff, null.

Petty-Goat gets the last word once again.

"My own personal troll follows me to another thread. Guess he can't find another of his puppet masters (Bob, Hans, Spud, etc.)to bother."

#188 | Posted by nullifidian

He can't be your own personal troll if he also trolls Bob, Hans, Spud, etc.

Your lack of criticism for Obama picking a tax evader to head the treasury implies support for the pick and for tax evasion. Are you a libertarian?

"Are you a libertarian?"

You made a good post a while back asking me some questions along those lines but I never got back to you.

I even resent the title of the article, " . . . Failed To Pay Taxes." As if it were an honest mistake. You can be charged with "failure to yield" or "failure to use turn signal"--and it's usually because you're lazy or not paying attention. Don't for one minute believe that "failure to pay taxes" would describe a Republican appointee who did the same thing.

I'm already sick of Obama's cabinet. If you can dribble a basketball, you're in. "Didn't pay taxes? No problem. How about Treasury for you?"