It's time to stop all the bail-outs. The US government can't afford their own spending habbits much less someone elses.

Vitter is concerned that Louisiana hookers are
not getting their fair share of the TARP money.
What a great political move. Everyone loves an
obstructionist.

* do = find jesus

Why is spending $350 Billion "what needs to be done?" Have you ever thought that maybe more government spending is not the answer to our country's problems?

Joe's right.

I don't care if it's a Republican, a Democrat, or Mickey Mouse, someone needs to end that spending orgy in Washington.

Go Vittner

The bailout, as structured, is like giving the henhouse to the fox, after he consumed the contents.

It's time to stop all the bail-outs. The US government can't afford their own spending habbits much less someone elses.
#1 | Posted by Sniper

Oh come on sniper that's not the way big government works you don't have to be able to afford anything you just print up a whole bunch of money this solves several problems at once, first the debt we owe to China will actually be much easier to pay off when 100 dollars is equal to 50 cents do to inflation also think how easy your mortgage would be to pay if you had to get a pay raise every other day to keep pace with inflation. In many third world countries people actually race to the market to spend their money as fast as possible before it's value drops. So in a nutshell the answer is don't raise taxes that will just piss everyone off print up a whole bunch of money instead and give it to China before the currency value drops problem solved...

By the way, the best odds are on Mickey.

It's time to stop all the bail-outs. The US government can't afford their own spending habbits much less someone elses.

And yet the Right consistently elects the biggest borrowers in history. Talk about sucking and blowing.

You guys must be starting to miss old willie surplus. He mighta got a blow job, but Bush has fucked everybody.

How is holding onto this financial bailout money going to hurt the Community Organizer-in-Chief?

The Dems will override him. $350,000,000,000 is just a small speed bump on the way to $1,500,000,000,000 in deficit spending. Who's some podunk Senator from podunk Louisiana think he is, anyway? Wall Street banks need the money, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are determined that they get it.

$350 billion is $3,500 per American household.

And yet the Right consistently elects the biggest borrowers in history. Talk about sucking and blowing.

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Actually, the Left just did. I'll be you voted for Obama, despite his helping to pass the $850,000,000,000 bailout ofAnd he's promised Wall Street. How did that taste?

Isn't that always the case. The Democrats have to come in and clean up the mess from the Republicans and now they want to be difficult about it. Rotten to the very core they are.

Larry

More deficit spending isn't necessarily cleaning anything up. It's become a given in our country that no matter what the problem is, we need to throw money at it. The answer at this point is for federal, state and local governments to trim their budgets the way all other Americans are being forced to do.

With unemployment on the rise, income tax revenues are going down. Any sane person would decide to spend less when they have less coming in - but our government wants to spend more. Explain how that makes any sense at all.

I say Obama and the Dems should hold their fire, accecpt the Repub power play and watch the Markets hit rock bottom in the next 2 months. The investment class will go nuts.

They could still tinker around the edges and plan for Obama's green economy while watching the Repubs sweat it out.

Then turn around and say "See the repubs are not working for you, they are working against you."

End of Repubs...

And if the Repubs are correct, then they pick up seats in 10' and we have a divided government which is not a bad idea.

You guys must be starting to miss old willie surplus. He mighta got a blow job, but Bush has fucked everybody.
#10 | Posted by northguy3

Sorry northguy I don't want to tarnish your name by agreeing with you but even though I myself have called him Blowjob Billy all you have to do is take a quick look at Hilary, poor woman must have hit every branch on the ugly tree several times on the way down. Besides the name Oral office does have a ring to it and other Presidents have done the same thing look at Kennedy oops sorry another Democrat anyway the wheels of Washington are often greased with a lot of little swimmers...

In terms of the Bailout, that is an insane amount of money to inject into a financial system that employs less people than the auto sector.

If you consider the section 8 "you can't touch me" clause it goes beyond "insane" and well into the realms of the "criminal".

Particularily when you understand that the primary motivation here ie. "improving liquidity" hasn't been realised as a lot of this money has been used for aquisitions instead.

The liquidity that has been freed up has been mostly reserved for the big boys with very little going to smaller concerns.

This is how the rich get richer and the rest get screwed.

That all sed, if Obama can use the remaining cash to help out those who are due to lose their homes due to predatory and, in Spud's opinion, illegal practices and can do so with a degree of tranparency and accountability that has hitherto not existed then ya may as well spend the cash before the American currency kicks into hyper inflation mode.

More to the point, Spud sees this move by Vitter as a foreshadowing of eight years of non-stop obstructionism by the right that some Rtards hereabouts are already calling for.

/Yes, Nanc, Spud is looking at you when he sez that.
//Go figure.

Be Well.

after being caught sucking cock.

#3 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

I do believe this repub actually was a suckee...not a sucker.

I do not care if he paid the whole Dallas Cowboy cheerleader squad for sex. Some one needs to call a ...STOP...to this nonsense!

So where was St. Vitter on the first go-round?

watch the Markets hit rock bottom in the next 2 months. The investment class will go nuts.
#16 | POSTED BY PROLIX247
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This what they should have done back in September. Let the economy correct and come back naturally instead of artificially propping it up with fiat money that we don't have. The way were going now, we're just prolonging the pain and the grave we still need to dig ourselves out of gets deeper with every bailout.

Vitter voted NO on the original bill.

The repubs are attempting to distance themselves from the GWB repub depression and to place blame on the Dems.

That is why the TARP funds were issued for GWB (to keep the economy going) and are being refused (by repubs) for Obama, so the economy will collapse.

Obama: Recession Delays Campaign Promises
"I want to be realistic here, not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped," President-elect Barack Obama said in an interview broadcast this morning. "Everybody's going to have to give."

Now here is a perfect example of a complete surprise that most people did not see. Translated Obama knows raising taxes will kill the economy, and all the promises he made to win the election are not affordable. Obama knows he is going to have to "Stay the Course" economically as bailouts are a proven disaster. Why do you think Bush is leaving that choice up to Obama he already has enough crap to be blamed for...

You guys must be starting to miss old willie surplus. He mighta got a blow job, but Bush has fucked everybody.

#10 | Posted by northguy3

Please refresh my memory nor. What year was it that the US gov spent less than it took in?

That is why the TARP funds were issued for GWB (to keep the economy going) and are being refused (by repubs) for Obama, so the economy will collapse.

#23 | Posted by Prolix247

And approved by who, Cheney?

"I want to be realistic here, not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped," President-elect Barack Obama said in an interview broadcast this morning. "Everybody's going to have to give."

Why is this even news? The Messiah said almost the exact same thing in his speech on election night.

Mere hours after being elected he told the suckers that fell for "Hope and Change" that they were bamboozled, and the kicker is the sycophants tried to spin it as if it was a great thing.

Maybe McCain should suspend his campaign and fix this.

"Please refresh my memory nor. What year was it that the US gov spent less than it took in?"

It isn't that most years the budget was really balanced but those years (coincidentally under Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2) where there were TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS of deficits that seem to be the problem.
We willnever see prosperity until the REAGAN/BUSH TAX CUTS ARE REPEALED and we go back to the economic principles that built the largest industrial economy in the world.

"the GWB repub depression and to place blame on the Dems"

Ho boy...there is way more than enough blame to go around on that.
Or have you had your head up your partisan ass?

Why is this even news? The Messiah said almost the exact same thing in his speech on election night.
#27 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Sometimes it takes a while for things to sink in especially if you have been buttlerized and lied to

On a happier note at least you will be stimulated in seven days...

We willnever see prosperity until the REAGAN/BUSH TAX CUTS ARE REPEALED and we go back to the economic principles that built the largest industrial economy in the world.

#29 | Posted by danni

The problem is that those economic principles are not going to work in the current, global economy. The horse is no longer in the barn...

Why is it that everyone blames one side or another?

Govt raped us & will continue to do so until we as a nation put our collective foot down.

Rep/Dem/Ind are all guilty of stupidity in this. Some may be good, but honestly, anyone that volunteers to go into public office is a teat sucking leach. Those in office that aren't out-right crooks are so morally deficient that nothing will get done unless there's something in it for them. That's the whole point of pork barrel spending. And on top of that, they agreed to give the money away w/out ANY accountability or ability to track where it goes or what its used for? Are we really that stupid to put up with this shit from either side? Reading some of these posts, apparently the answer is yes..

What a frigging circus and we're all part of the show....sitting center ring while the Elephant & Mule both take turns sodomizing us while we're watching all the clowns come out of the car.

"The horse is no longer in the barn..."

Legislation to "put that horse in the barn" could easily be written. Nothing has really changed, we let globalists tell us it had but we are still in control of our own destiny if we return to the tried and proven policies that worked in the past.

Why is spending $350 Billion "what needs to be done?" Have you ever thought that maybe more government spending is not the answer to our country's problems?

#5 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-13 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how BushCo and his boys were singing that same tune..... IT MUST BE DONE (and with only three pages or regulation....two of them outlining how BushCo can never be asked any questions regarding it) .....but NOW.

Very convenient!

Vitter is right. Letting Obama and the dems have the TARP funds is like giving alchol to an alcholic. They can't borrow their way out of this economic situation and the government can only help by getting it's own house in order.

"Ho boy...there is way more than enough blame to go around on that."

Generally, when the GOP is responsible then it's time to drag out the old "both parties are equally to blame" nonsense. Predictable but still bull shit.

"Funny how BushCo and his boys were singing that same tune..... IT MUST BE DONE"

I was never singing that tune. You are responding to my post. Try doing so without a strawman.

Predictable but still bull shit.

#37 | Posted by danni

Congress was working the green light switch.

"nonsense"
#37 | POSTED BY DANNI
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And the beat goes on...

Vitter is right. The first $350 billion did absolutely nothing. Banks are NOT lending cash as was intended. This whole bailout is a massive waste of taxpayer cash.

There are many banks that did not need a bailout because they were prudent with their money. Why reward the losers in the business world if making bad decisions? If it has to be spent, it should go the social security fund as that ponzi scheme is about to collapse.

#26 | Posted by wisgod

No - The Dems and Repubs issued the first TARP Funds because the Repubs were facing a losing election as it was and they did not want to make it worse.

Now that the Repubs are the opposition they can obstruct, watch the economy drop and blame the Dems. Or they think this strategy will work.

The Repubs still don't understand the intertubes. Those pesky intertubes will have the Repubs biting their lips as video after video will show them stating how dire the situation is and how TARP must be passed and yet the crisis continues but now the Repubs say No More?

They will be seen as the 23 percenters they truly are.

When do I get my check?

#30 | Posted by kerrin57

I've bee an Independant for over 20 years. I call it like I see it.

If they would have let the first few banks fail then other banks would have taken up the slack and it would have been over with by now. Instead we are on track to break the country financially.

If a household runs into hardship they would tighten their belts and make things work. The government way is to max out all your credit cards, apply for assistance from someone else and pray that your spending gets you out of trouble.

No - The Dems and Repubs issued the first TARP Funds because the Repubs were facing a losing election as it was and they did not want to make it worse.
Posted by Prolix247

So the Dems felt sorry for the R's and wanted to help? That's just silly.

Bush and the Republicans are to blame for the current disaster in our economy. An unpalatable fact that the rightnuts are incapable of acknowledging. In their twisted little brains thay think that by bitching and whining in their usual unproductive manner they can somehow make it somebody else's fault.

Hey rightnuts, the situation is analogous to that which existed 76 years ago. Nobody except the whacked out right then and now blamed FDR for the mess, they blame Hoover and Wall Street, now and then and in between times.

As for Vitter, he should stick to hookers. Unlike economics it's something he's expert in.

Blue--Hoover and Wall Street caused the mess. FDR made it worse.

Hope you don't mind your kids paying for the bailout of Wall Street. Barney Frank and Barack Obama think it's a great idea. Of course, they don't know your kids. They only know that you're a partisan tool who will go along with anything they do.

Four more years! And I hope you have a new set of kneepads. You'll need them.

#46 | Posted by wisgod

No - the cowardly Dems bought GWB's argument that we were falling off the cliff so they acted.

Why the Dems would believe GWB without proof does seem a little too convenient by my standards, but they did.

The Dems brought along the Repubs to avoid total responsibility in case GWB was lying (as usual). The Repubs did not want to lose more seats due to obstructionism so they acquiesced.

I also read somewhere that GWB did use his new martial law powers as a threat to get the money. I don't think the order has been rescinded yet.

No - the cowardly Dems bought GWB's argument that we were falling off the cliff so they acted.

Why the Dems would believe GWB without proof does seem a little too convenient by my standards, but they did.

The Dems brought along the Repubs to avoid total responsibility in case GWB was lying (as usual). The Repubs did not want to lose more seats due to obstructionism so they acquiesced.

I also read somewhere that GWB did use his new martial law powers as a threat to get the money. I don't think the order has been rescinded yet.

#49 | Posted by Prolix247

Boy, for such a dumbfuck, he sure is smart and alway's get his way.

Obama has threatened to veto it if they block it.

Boy, for such a dumbfuck, he sure is smart and alway's get his way.

Not to mention that you'd have to be pretty damn smart to manipulate global oil prices as he did the last couple of years. And no dummy could pull off that 9/11 job, either.

It is confusing, isn't it. On one hand he's an ignorant chimp, but on the other he flawlessly pulls off these brilliant coup d'etats. What an enigma.

Okay, so maybe the Dem Congress didn't exactly manage the first $350B very well but, that's no reason to think they will blindly hand all that cash over to banks and other mega-fat cats again, does it?

Dems have set the bar so high for themselves that I fear they will fall short...a lot.

Not dumb - two faced.

Big Difference. You don't grow up with a CIA dad and not learn how to lie big.

Four more years! And I hope you have a new set of kneepads. You'll need them.

#48 |

Eight actually. You will be running Palin and JTP, won't you? If I needed kneepads I wouldn't ask to borrow yours. Too threadbare and semen-stained.

Eight actually

I remember people saying that about Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. LOL

I doubt if your prognostication skills are any better.

Do you seriously think Palin will be a serious contender for the top spot in four years? You must be on something. She was nice to have around for a little while but she will not be a force in any primaries to come.

Who's JTP?

Not dumb - two faced.

Big Difference. You don't grow up with a CIA dad and not learn how to lie big.

#54 | Posted by Prolix247

It still doesn't say much for the gullible Democratic Party. I wish George would have told them a whopper about Global Cooling.br />

Gullible? possibly;

Cowardly? generally;

Two Faced? Absolutely;

Power Hungry?

Most Definitely...

All of a sudden they've found 'fiscal responsibility' much the same way they do after being caught sucking cock.

Regardless of their hipocrisy, throwing more money at the problem isn't going to fix it. Shux. Look at the stellar job it's done so far.

Maybe they can threaten the senate and house leadership with marshal law just before the inauguration.

We willnever see prosperity until the REAGAN/BUSH TAX CUTS ARE REPEALED and we go back to the economic principles that built the largest industrial economy in the world. - Danni

The economic effects of modest changes in tax rates be it up or down have impact, but not to the degree that the right claims.

The problem with increasing taxes so that the government can spend it on infrastructure is that it doesn't create long-term economic growth. It provides work for primarily one industry - construction - and that work is short term; once the projects are complete the work dries up. Japan very recently tried to use government spending as a means of prodding their stagnant economy and it simply didn't work.

The strong growth of the middle class of the '40's, '50's and '60's is far more a product of demographics than government policy. Birth rates plummeted during the Depression. As a result, when those children began entering the workforce the demand for workers exceeded supply. As a result, young people entering the workforce were able to command higher pay than ever before, thus realizing the American dream. The rapid industrialization resulting from WWII was also crucial. This enabled them to marry earlier and procreate earlier and more often.

You have a tendency to view EVERYTHING through the somewhat narrow prism of government policy, Danni. Other factors are often far more pertinent to economic change within our country.

When do I get my check from Obama?

Harping on Barney, Barry and Chris is beyond pale. The gall of you pathological liars is astonishing.

Paulson and Bernanke led this bailout, with Shrub's complete approval. A backdoor to killing Social Security. The bailout is needed by a pack of lying thieves, which includes Obama's Rubin. Paulson forced perfectly sound Banks to take money along with the bankrupt ones so they wouldn't stand out, triggering a run on the busted Banks. Gramm and Greenspan really screwed the pooch when they changed the rules, some secretly and others for purely partisan reasons.

Granted, the pussified Democrats caved in too, again, but it was not their idea, nor were they the root cause.

Even more astonishing, Obama has not taken one penny out of Defense budgets. Everyone can starve, as long as the weapons of mass destruction keep flowing. These weapons got us through WWII, but haven't accomplished one useful thing since. We should mind out own business and close 700 foriegn military bases in 125 othe countries. Actual defense (as opposed to our offensive systems) only requires Stateside bases and a Navy. All else is for a Corporate empire that is failing.

The financial system is rigged and highly leveraged to skim quick profits off the top, for a few, leaving the masses with as little as politically possible. Bets (or as they prefer to call them complex financial instruments) and prices are manipulated by those who control the flow of goods.

I have long held that Wall Street is controlling the price of oil, not supply and demand, not OPEC, not Exxon. 60 minutes proved those points last Sunday. RiR's assertion that the system is a zero sum game is bunk. Paper was shuffled to drive the price of oil up and drive the price down. No oil was delivered and the crooks made money in both directions. Virtually all transactions are secret which makes prosecution for this treasonous behavior impossible. The first one to set the herd in motion cleans up and the last one out is the biggest loser. Goldman-Sachs and especially Morgan-Stanley were princiapl players. These firms own actual oil storage facilities and exceed Exxon's position in oil markets.

"Who's JTP?"

JTP = Joe the Plumber. I was being fanciful, I hope. Seriously though, just do you have on the horizon? The Republican Party is like the Dallas Cowboys. All promise(s), no accountability and no execution and, in TO and Bush, one monunmental ego forever whining about how nobody likes him and nothing being his fault.

TO = Terrell Owens who has managed to destroy the internal structure of three organizations. 49ers, Eagles and Cowboys. Like Bush in that respect too. He has destroyed the economy, the military and America's reputation.

#65 | Posted by BlueInBushland

2 out of 3 are true. Dems have always decmated the military. Look what Clinton and Carter did. They also did it to the intellegence community.

"Dems have always decmated the military. Look what Clinton and Carter did. They also did it to the intellegence community.

#66 | Posted by cabo_vato"

It's arguable whether or not the Dems "destroyed or decimated the military". Their extremist attitudes towards the military in the past certainly destroyed the Dems for a generation or two, a fate which they richly deserved.

Looney tunes extremists are not confined to the Republican Party, the Dems have them too although their influence today isn't anything like what the right wing ranters say it is. The Dems have learned the hard way how destructive their extremists are and have them mostly under control. Republicans are still early in the process of controlling theirs. They'll probably need as many election defeats as the Dems did.

Bush was absolutely shit-scared of the CIA who in general loathed him and Cheney. That's why they demoralized and destroyed it. It will make fascinating reading when the full story emerges. Porter Goss, for instance. What was all that about?

How ironic Republican Senator Vitter was MIA with any protest when it came to Bush's first go round giving $350 BILLION to the boys on Wall Street and banks which now refuse to even say what they did with the money. All was fine and dandy when our billions were used to pay off Republicans' interests and donors.

But when Obama now plans on using the additional $350 billion for building up our badly needed infrastructure here in our own country and which will also continue to provide millions of jobs to help replace all the jobs lost under Bush and the Republican Congress -- then all of the sudden Republican Senator Vitter is oh so concerned and worried there be a proper accounting.

Must be killing the Republicans knowing the other half of Bush's $750 billion bailout bucks to be used by Obama might actually go to help out American companies like our auto industry and it's subsidiaries not to mention all the American workers they temploy.

And yet the Republicans still remain perplexed as to why the majority of the country can't stand their party. Seems those Republican politicians just don't "get it" -- and never will. Selfish sobs.

Seriously though, just do you have on the horizon? The Republican Party is like the Dallas Cowboys. All promise(s), no accountability and no execution and, in TO and Bush, one monunmental ego forever whining about how nobody likes him and nothing being his fault.
* * * *

You're saying two mutually exclusive things. First you're saying the Republicans don't have anybody, then you're saying we have a bunch of superstars who don't play well together.

Who knows? Maybe the Repubs are like the Miami Dolphins, who go 1-15, then make the playoffs with a bunch of nobodies, because of relative lack of competition. Who had heard of Barack Obama before October of 2007? He was just another tool in the Chicago mob political machinery, running against the "inevitable" candidate. Now he's the president elect who's bringing Chicago to the White House.

Beware the illusion of permanence.

Bush was absolutely shit-scared of the CIA who in general loathed him and Cheney.

#67 | Posted by BlueInBushland

And you contacts in the CIA told you this?

Please refresh my memory nor. What year was it that the US gov spent less than it took in?

#25 | Posted by Sniper

Hay buddy, you still alive? I haven't heard from you yet.

And you contacts in the CIA told you this?

#70 - cabo vato.

Of course I don't have contacts in the CIA. I don't have any on Wall Street and didn't in Enron either but like everybody else not determined to not know I know what went on from common sense, information and observation.

Regarding the CIA and its attitude towards Dumbya and Darth; I have watched C-SPAN and know about Cheney doing an end run around accepted procedure and descending on low-level analysts pressuring them to give him what he wanted to cherry-pick the Iraq intelligence to get the neocon war. I have heard and read what Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson and Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity have had to say. I remember Cheney and Scooter outing Valerie Plame for political purposes and endangering her, her agents and her work. I've heard that the CIA was pissed off about that etc. etc.

I know that the Bush admin and the finance industry is responsible for at least 90% of our current economic crisis too. I have figured this out without insider knowledge as anybody could.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks, it's a duck.

I know that the Bush admin and the finance industry is responsible for at least 90% of our current economic crisis too. I have figured this out without insider knowledge as anybody could.

#72 | Posted by BlueInBushland

"You're saying two mutually exclusive things. First you're saying the Republicans don't have anybody, then you're saying we have a bunch of superstars who don't play well together."

#69 | Posted by rightisright

I didn't think I was, didn't mean to anyway. Palin is a superstar, I don't see any others. To continue the analogy, your biggest problem is the fans.

When do I get my check?

#43 | Posted by cabo_vato

Don't you remember the woody you got when you sold your vote to Bush for $300?

I raise your #73.

if Obama can use the remaining cash to help out those who are due to lose their homes due to predatory and, in Spud's opinion, illegal practices and can do so with a degree of tranparency and accountability that has hitherto not existed then ya may as well spend the cash before the American currency kicks into hyper inflation mode.

#18 | Posted by dethspud
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That's a fine idea, but it won't happen. It will be dispersed to the banks in the name of liquidity and we'll receive a net zero from it. Just like the first half.

That's why we should just keep it. Or rather, not create it. Because it doesn't really exist... yet.

That's a fine idea, but it won't happen.

What do we responsible borrowers get? It doesn't seem right to reward those who borrowed irresponsibly.

What do we responsible borrowers get?

The righties continue to always think they have been slighted in some way no matter the circumstances.

It is like 4 year olds getting cookies and milk. His cookie is bigger than mine, that's unfair!

It is like 4 year olds getting cookies and milk. His cookie is bigger than mine, that's unfair!

Not quite. It's more like little Johnny disobeying mom while little Susie obeys, but little Johnny is the one who gets the cookies and little Susie doesn't get any.

I can't believe you are this dense, so I have to believe you are shamelessly trolling.

Isn't it time for your daily whine to rcade about me, runnysore?

The righties continue to always think they have been slighted in some way no matter the circumstances.

So you are saying that the righties are the responsible borrowers and the lefties are the irresponsible borrowers?

I always figured irresponsibility knew no political bounds, but if you say so, runnysore.

Runnysore?????

Who the fuck is runnysore?

I have searched this entire thread and still have not foundout who goatman is talking about.

What do we responsible borrowers get? It doesn't seem right to reward those who borrowed irresponsibly.

#78 | Posted by goatman

WOW 2 in one day. I AGREE.... I want the gov to help me pay my mortgage also.

So you are saying that the righties are the responsible borrowers and the lefties are the irresponsible borrowers?

Now I will play you piss ant whining game.....I never said this so stop putting rhetorical conjecture to my posts.

I have no idea who is responsible borrowers and who is not, I could careless.

I am smart enough to figure out though, that there is so many irresponsible borrowers that if we punish them it will slow down our ability to improve our economy by a much longer time.

You can now continue with your WOB - ish posting of whine and blah saying nothing.

WOW 2 in one day. I AGREE.... I want the gov to help me pay my mortgage also.

Well, go spend and spend and get yourself in the dire straights that those who are getting help, it won't feel so bad.

I bet it will make you feel so much better because you did it on purpose.

"Please refresh my memory nor. What year was it that the US gov spent less than it took in?

#25 | Posted by Sniper "

Hay buddy, you still alive? I haven't heard from you yet.

#71 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-01-13 07:27 PM

Both quotes within your one post?

Err, always talk to yourself a lot?

I never said this so stop putting rhetorical conjecture to my posts.

No, but you strongly implied it. I said I didn't think it fair that irresponsible borrowers get a break. You said 'just like a righty to complain'. Put two and two together. LOL To me that says te righty is the responsible borrower.

If you didn't mean that, you shouldn't have made your righty crack.

And whining? Please don't make me link to your whiney crybaby posts to rcade. LOL

No, but you strongly implied it. I said I didn't think it fair that irresponsible borrowers get a break. You said 'just like a righty to complain'. Put two and two together. LOL To me that says te righty is the responsible borrower.

No, that shows just how stupid you are in reasoning.

The righties could be irresponsible in borrowing and other righties could be whining about fair.

Maybe you should think alittle more before posting, it wouldn't show that lack of education.

Another WOB post of unintellectual thought by goatman. When will it stop????

When will it stop????

WAAAAAAAHH!

Now that it looks like Obama will be getting his $350 Billion I have to ask his supporters this.

If trickle down economics is voodoo... why does Obama agree with giving tax payer money to the people at the top of the food chain? Unless he thinks it will trickle down, he's just filling fat-cat coffers.

When do I get my check from our lord and master?

When do I get my check from our lord and master?

#91 | Posted by cabo_vato

I'm with you. I want some fucking wealth redistribution right fucking now.

Joe's right.

I don't care if it's a Republican, a Democrat, or Mickey Mouse, someone needs to end that spending orgy in Washington.

#6 | Posted by the_nether at 2009

well even some liberal dems have talked about doing this and as you probably know by now obama has threatened a veto to get the money even before he is in office..........so the pres apparently wont be thinking like you are....

The righties continue to always think they have been slighted in some way no matter the circumstances.

It is like 4 year olds getting cookies and milk. His cookie is bigger than mine, that's unfair!

#79 | Posted by moneywar at 2009-01-13 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hell no. That's not even vaguely what it's like. It's like.. let's say there's 2 four year olds. One is a good boy, and does everything he's told to. He gets one cookie, and a cup of milk.

Then there's another 4 year old, and he's a real shithead. He disobeys, ignores his parents, and beats the dog because it's fun. He gets an entire package of cookies, and a chocolate milk.

Maybe because you already have your stable home, there, Moneywar, or you rent, you can't see it. Those of us closer to the poverty line see it. I own a trailer home. Free and clear, I paid it off; saved up the cash; it's mine. Why? Because I lived within my means. I initially went to the bank and a realtor when I went hunting for a house, intending to use this as a down payment. I was hardsold on subprime things as well; looked at it, found it was not within my means if it fell apart, and bought the trailer home.

Meanwhile Chris, who has the exact same job I did went and got a subprime mortgage. He lives, currently, inside of a 2 story house with 4 bedrooms. He did NOT live within his means.

How in the hell am I _not_ supposed to feel insulted if the government comes along and bails his stupid ass out? That means _my_ taxes went to pay for _his_ fiscal stupidity. How am I not supposed to be angry, knowing my money bought him his 2 story house?

Hell no, the government should NOT bail out those who got a subprime loan. Not unless they're going to bail me out into a 2 story house with a nice yard as well.

I wouldn't argue if the government gave him one of those fancy new Katrina trailers though. I think homelessness is a huge problem, and with all the government throws away on corporate welfare, the homeless problem could be ended in a single business day if they stopped it.

I don't think Chris should be homeless, but he doesn't need to live in what's comparatively a mansion, either.

Both quotes within your one post?

Err, always talk to yourself a lot?

#86 | Posted by CalifChris

Just trying to get an answer from a clinton loving lib. I should know better.

The government shoulding be giving money to anyone. They should get back to the business of protecting our borders and that is about it. They have no right to take my money at the point of a gun and give it away to someone else.