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Monday, January 12, 2009

Officials at state unemployment offices say they've never seen anything like it: Layoffs are happening so fast that those seeking unemployment benefits are overloading state computer systems, jamming phone lines, and making it necessary for administrators to hire temporary workers.

In some states, it's so bad officials suspect that only half the calls are getting through. Frustrated, the unemployed are e-mailing anyone they can find at the state agencies or are just hitting redial on their phones, sometimes hundreds of times. The problem will get worse before it gets better, say some officials.

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The problem will certainly get worse.

We are in for a very very rough ride, just so the top 10% could get 78% of earning in America.

Have to love those republicans, thinking so much about America as a whole.

The fundamentals of our economy are strong! Just like my hair line you fucking trollop!

- Sydney the class geek

There is plenty of blame to go around, but Barney Frank and poor fucks who took out loans under the CRA would be at the top of my list of criminals. Now all the liberal hand wringers want to bail out the mortgages of these same welfare fucks who are defaukting at a currebt 50% rate on their bail out.

I would like to set up a shop that had a sign that said "FREE LOANS". When they came in for their loan I would kick them right in the balls. "There's your free loan!!"

Compassionate Neocon Thom

In most states it is called the Employment Office.

So much for "Trickle Down" economics. If the people that benefited from 25 years of tax cuts would only do the patriotic thing and go out and buy stuff, we wouldn't be in this mess. You have nothing to fear. Your country needs you.

Com'on wealthy America! Spend, spend, spend! Ronald Reagan would want you to. It's what he planned.

Voodoo...er...Trickle Down economics can work!

Right?

Attention Right wingers. For your own safety I recommend that you lie your asses off when you are out in public during the next year and never admit who you voted for in 2000 and 2004!
The Surgeon General has determined that admitting to Right Wing Voting Disease can be harmful to your health.

"We are in for a very very rough ride, just so the top 10% could get 78% of earning in America."

#1 | Posted by moneywar

Let me guess, but you be sure to let me know if I'm wrong.

You're not in that top 10%, am I right?

"Compassionate Neocon Thom"

You forgot "Unhinged", FWT.

I'm just surprised to hear that the service levels at state organizations are going down. They're usually so good.

And FYI: I'll admit to voting anytime I feel like it to anyone nosy enough to ask. I don't back off what I believe or have believed in the past, & live my life to be approved of, thats a lib thing.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, nonfarm payroll employment declined by 3,445,000 from December 2007 through December 2008.

The collapse in employment is across the board.
Construction lost 520,000 jobs. Manufacturing lost 806,000 jobs. Trade, transportation and utilities lost 1,495,000 jobs (retail trade accounted for 1,120,000 of this loss). Financial activities lost 145,000 jobs. Professional and business services lost 713,000 jobs. Even government lost 188,000 jobs.

Only in health care and social assistance has the economy been able to eke out a few new jobs.

Many analysts believe the job losses will be as great or greater during 2009.

Moreover, the reported job losses are likely understated. Noted statistician John Williams (shadowstats.com) reports that biases in measurement have understated the job loss over the last 12 months by 1,150,000 jobs. Williams reports the unemployment rate as it was measured prior to "reforms" designed to minimize the measured rate of unemployment. According to the methodology used in 1980, the US unemployment rate in December 2008 reached 17.5 percent.

Yes, "our" government lies to us about economic statistics, just as it lies to us about "terrorists," "weapons of mass destruction," "building freedom and democracy in the Middle East," and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The collapse of the job market means even harder times for last year's and this year's crops of college graduates. The offshoring of professional jobs and the widespread use by US corporations of H-1B, L-1, and other work visa programs for foreigners have left many recent American university graduates without careers.

The cost of the Bush Regime's wars, together with the 2009 budget deficit that Bush has bequeathed to Obama, equals half of the 230 year accumulated national debt of the United States.

Several years ago United States Comptroller General David Walker informed Congress and the White House that the accrued liabilities of the US government exceeded the ability to pay. Yet, "our" leaders ignored the Comptroller General and rushed headlong to add more trillions of dollars to federal liabilities. In effect, the United States is bankrupt at this present moment. According to generally accepted accounting principles, the federal government has a negative net worth of $59.3 trillion.

Who is going to lend to a bankrupt government that is ruled by financial crooks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby? How long will the world finance US aggression that disrupts energy prices, keeps the world on edge, and makes America's creditors complicit in war crimes?

Excerpted from Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration.

"And FYI: I'll admit to voting anytime I feel like it to anyone nosy enough to ask. I don't back off what I believe or have believed in the past, & live my life to be approved of, thats a lib thing."

I hope you mouth off around a bunch of unemployed construction workers. Go for it!

Have to love those republicans, thinking so much about America as a whole.

#1 | POSTED BY MONEYWAR
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Well lets all hope you're right and the infallible Democrats can make this country a veritable paradise with free money for all.

Unfortunately this is a two party system and a two party problem. But keep blaming it on the other guy. It will be sweet when all the free money the government is giving out comes back to inflate us in the ass. Both parties are supporting the bail outs by the way. So when they turn out to be the most colossal waste of money this country has ever known, you wing nuts can feel free to turn in your cards.

You hand-wringing panty-waists and your liberal media, always focusing on the negative!

Look on the bright side. The unemployment offices are having TO HIRE TEMPORARY WORKERS to cope with all the new clients. If the number of those seeking benefits continues to increase, the number of state office workers could soar, and the unemployment problem fixes itself!

Spin THAT, liberals!

"I hope you mouth off around a bunch of unemployed construction workers. Go for it"

I'll risk it.
Wow! Inciting violence against opposing viewpoints & construction guys aren't even unionized!
FYI: Lots of friends & a boyfriend in construction here in Central VA & they've got plenty of work.

"Lots of friends & a boyfriend in construction here in Central VA & they've got plenty of work."

I hope it keeps up for them, unfortunately here in Florida it's a different story.

South Florida is still a construction paradise. I counted 22 cranes on my way to work, but I also passed 9 houses for sale. Ironic.

Hatebiggov is full of hot air. She won't admit to shit. She is your typical rethug. Just a coward. I guess your bf is uneducated also Hate?

I just got home from my daytime martial arts class. Half the guys are out of work. I feel bad for them so I don't whip their ass as bad as normal.

Voodoo...er...Trickle Down economics can work!

Right?

#5 | Posted by Ron_Karate

It has been proven time and time again the trickle up is the way it realy hppens. Just give a homeless person a big tax cut and wait for the jobs to roll in. Shit, happens every time.

"Lots of friends & a boyfriend in construction here in Central VA & they've got plenty of work." #14 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV

It's the blue states that are tanking silly.

sniper


rationalrevolution0.tripod.com


Esxplains why trickle down does not work. Read it and learn. Maybe you won't be so stupid.

KBM why is construction fucked up all over GA?

"Hatebiggov is full of hot air. She won't admit to shit. She is your typical rethug. Just a coward. I guess your bf is uneducated also Hate?"

RASTANINJA: You are the answer to the fucking question NOBODY asked!

Everyone who knows me knows where I stand & anyone who cares to know has only to ask. How like a snobby lib to look down on construction workers and assume they are uneducated! Unless you live in a grass hut & wipe your ass with a leaf one of those "uneducated" guys most likely built your fucking house you hypocrite. But since you brought it up, he's a foreman over multiple crews with very lucrative private & public contracts who happens to love what he does & is quite good at it. You probably couldn't build a fucking Jenga tower you tool.

Danni, I hope things pick up in FL

I have an engineering degree you silly twit. I still think you are a coward.

"Trickle Down economics can work!"

When it was called "feudalism", it worked for many years. Well, it did work for the lords.

I still think you are a coward.

Really? Now I won't get any sleep! You're probably the pencil pushing asswipe that all of the REAL construction workers hate because you pop off shit for them to do you can't do yourself. You're not that hard to figure out you know.

How long is the line? I am sure most of you have been stading in them.

"It's the blue states that are tanking silly."

Better hope not because if they do who will pay in the taxes so that the government can send federal aid dollars to the red states who generally pay in less than they get back.

Hatebiggov you are pretty easy to understand too. You want a guy like me but you know you will never obtain one.

Stop all payments that benefit illegals. That would save California 8 Bil. a year.

"Hatebiggov you are pretty easy to understand too. You want a guy like me but you know you will never obtain one"

Thanks for the laugh! Man I needed that! Whiny, self-absorbed, narcissistic, wimps with delusions of grandeur aren't that hard to come by oddly enough.


Whiny, self-absorbed, narcissistic, wimps with delusions of grandeur aren't that hard to come by oddly enough.



Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2009-01-12 03:39 PM |

But I don't whine.

Whiny, self-absorbed, narcissistic, wimps with delusions of grandeur aren't that hard to come by oddly enough.


Posted by HATEBIGGOV at 2009-01-12 03:39 PM |

One of em is our current president.

I just got home from my daytime martial arts class. Half the guys are out of work. I feel bad for them so I don't whip their ass as bad as normal.
#18 | Posted by rastaninja

Good for you - those 4th graders really needed a shot of self-esteem!

#13 | Posted by cbob at 2009-01-12 02:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Oh, look, Rusty made a friend!!

"One of em is our current president."

One more is the incoming president.


"KBM why is construction fucked up all over GA?"

#22 | Posted by rastaninja


I've been wondering about this for years also. You see a sign "Road work next 35 miles" and you see 35 miles of torn up roads and one guy standing on a shovel.

What gives?

#13 | Posted by cbob at 2009-01-12 02:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Oh, look, Rusty made a friend!!

#35 | Posted by NumberSix at 2009-01-12 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:


Awesome! At least one person thought I was serious!

finally - the people at the unemployment office HAVING a job to do. after the first trip, most states offer online or through the mail contacts. they should probably thank their lucky stars the feds haven't tapped into their mother lode...jez sayin'...

I would like to see a show of hands. How many of you people are unemployeed?


Be honest.

I am.

Ohio just ran out of money. Now they have to borrow from the feds.

2010 is coming.

....Officials at state unemployment offices say they've never seen anything like it: Layoffs are happening so fast that those seeking unemployment benefits are overloading state computer systems, jamming phone lines....

I wonder if the job market is truly this bad or if the media is overhyping it? Also, are these huge job losses mostly only in the construction-related industries due to less homes being built or is unemployment rampant in every field?

Maybe I should find a job first and then move to the state where the job is located, rather than doing it the other way around. That's not my first preference, though. Either way, better start to update my resume. From all I'm reading and hearing, it seems I couldn't be looking for work at a worse time than with millions now out of a job and millions more expected to be unemployed.

Still, one can make money right away anywhere you move just by doing some part time caretaking/babysitting (as they're often paid under the table and usually in short supply) plus even just part time waitressing lets you make immediate money while giving you plenty of spare time to send out your resume.

I'm going to stop listening to all the unemployment horror stories. At least I've got enough job skills not to have to compete with the millions who are at the bottom rung of the job skill ladder.

Sigh, I'm just tired of this shit! I'd just as soon hang a dem as a rep on this one. You all screwed us little people while claiming to help us. No wonder people on many parts of the south have no faith in any party. Bury your money in cans, you can't trust ANY of these assholes.

Cabo,

I'm not unemployed I work full time, plus am working to start my own company. However my mom is close to getting laid off. Her company has been trying very hard to keep her since my father just died a couple months ago. The fact is they should have let her go about a month before he died but they are a small company that actualy gives a rats ass about their employees. I doubt they can hold her for more than about 2 more months unless things change.

Things are tight companies are cutting back but the good news for America is things are rough in China too. Wages are rising, government subsidies are lowering, production delays are getting out of hand. More and more manufacturing is actualy being brought back to America as shipping cost are not droping despite what your paying at the pump putting even more upward pressure on imports.

TaoWarrior

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad.

It can't be easy now, especially for your Mom.
Wishing you all the best through what must be a difficult time.

- Chris

I have a nice pension like CABO VATO. Life is good. I am living the dream too.

It has been hard on my mom and me Chris thanks for your thoughts.

Honestly she doesn't really need the income she could downsize the house and live nicely off the profit plus my dad's life insurance and they had some savings so I'm not worried about her financially however working gives her something to do besides sit in the house missing dad. I would hate for her to loose her job for no other reason than that. Sadly unless things turn around much faster than anyone expects I don't see the company keeping her on for much longer. She is a designer for a builder and when they aren't selling the houses they don't need a designer to meet with clients.

I hope you mouth off around a bunch of unemployed construction workers. Go for it!

#11 | Posted by danni at 2009-01-12 02:18 PM | Reply

It sucks for all those unemployed ILLEGAL Mexican carpenters, brick layers and roofers.

So Danni, if someone decides to mouth off they better know Spanish.

You are not just stupid. You are also clueless. And completely unaware of the world around you.

Can you even say "I want a Big Mac but no ketchup"

???????

"and making it necessary for administrators to hire temporary workers."

This is how Bush creates jobs.

tao - have you thought about having her sign up for volunteer work or substitute teaching? sounds like she has much to offer.

"I want a Big Mac but no ketchup"

Quiero un Big Mac sin ketchup.

Nanc,

Not a bad idea if/when she does get laid off I will throw that idea in her direction. She does a lot of work with the church now maybe she could just expand that to a more active role if she had more free time.

"And completely unaware of the world around you."

You think I don't realize that the construction industry has been taken over by illegal Mexican unskilled laborers??? My son is an electrician who now does other work now because of it. He didn't want to work for half the wages he is used to like they will.

"He didn't want to work for half the wages he is used to like they will."

capitalism at it's best!

there is always McDonald's

Danni I'd like to make an example out of you if I may...

A couple of years ago the talk was all about illegal immigration. We were going to reform immigration policy and either make them all legal (which doesn't really solve anything) or make them earn their citizenship (which helps but doesn't stop them from coming in). Anything but actually enforce the laws we have for both individuals and corporations (which would solve a lot). Now, years later we don't hear one word about it. Danni on the left still has a problem with it. I know the right has a problem with it. Non-partisans like myself have a problem with it.

No matter what you think the solution is for our immigration problem, shouldn't we all be extremely disappointed with the absolute nothing that has been done to fix it?

Better hope not because if they do who will pay in the taxes so that the government can send federal aid dollars to the red states who generally pay in less than they get back.

#28 | Posted by danni
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Uh huh. A lot of Social Security dollars get paid in the upper Midwest and Northeast, then to Florida or Arizona when the guy retires.

One question: was your little formula calculated before our big trillion-dollar bailouts to Wall Street and Detroit? Because last I checked, New York and Michigan are blue states.

I just got home from my daytime martial arts class. Half the guys are out of work. I feel bad for them so I don't whip their ass as bad as normal.

#18 | Posted by rastaninja

I guess if they can afford the class they arn't broke.

Per the discussion on the right-wing's efforts to slander Franklin Roosevelt, note that though the Bureau of Labor Statistics today reports that the unemployment rate in President Bush's last month is 7.2 percent, if you use the same kind of absurd math conservatives use to berate the New Deal, then the unemployment today is actually around 22 percent.

As University of California historian Eric Rauchway has noted, Wingnuttia's leading FDR slanderers like Amity Shlaes and Thomas Sowell base their claims that unemployment during the New Deal didn't go below 20 percent by counting government workers as unemployed. Think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and magazines like the National Review blast that story all over the country without ever comparing it to Shrub's performance.

Its all bullshit and its bad for you.
(with Thanks to George, George Carlin that is)

No need to fear Obama The Messiah will soon be here.

I thought that with the Obama win in the polls everthing including the economy would instantly reverse. I thought the world would fall in love with the U.S. again (oops - someone forgot to tell those Iranians buring the Obama image news.yahoo.com )

You think I don't realize that the construction industry has been taken over by illegal Mexican unskilled laborers??? My son is an electrician who now does other work now because of it. He didn't want to work for half the wages he is used to like they will.

#53 | Posted by danni

DOn't worry Danni, Obama will take care of him.

Interestingly the righties on this thread are doing a whole lot of screamin but really are not saying a damn thing.

It appears like they are approvingly glowing about the swamped unemployment.

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