What'd'ya expect from someone named Dick Perle.

The Bushco machine has kicked up it's propaganda settings to 'nomalizing the previously unthinkable'.

If I put you head in a vise and tightened it to setting 2, it would hurt like hell. Then after a few weeks, I tightened it to 4, the previous 2 setting would seem, in retrospect, to feel pretty good.

this is how you normalize the unthinkable.

If ever there was some doubt that the Iraq War was a mistake, this should help clear things up.

"As always, victory finds a hundred fathers but defeat is an orphan"
- Count Galeazzo Ciano

Oh, really! Well, good to know, guess we had it all wrong. Whad'ya know.

Perle is a twat. The Iraq War was their idea.

Neal and Bob GOP

There are good reasons why Richard Perle, human slime of the worst sort, has been called the "Prince of Darkness" for over twenty years. Check into him sometime. The nasty smell can be detected light years' away.

On second thought, I'd like to somewhat revise and extend my remarks.

Richard Perle: carrier, enabler, and coward.

It's interesting to see Perle distance him self from Iraq. I can attest the red state blogs think they won Iraq.

Now, the red staters can say they won because they have constructed a reality where winning is what they say it is.

But Perle doesn't seem to have that reality. He may be an honest man, very relatively speaking.

A Perle necklace for America.

Richard Pearle was one of the biggest Neocons of them all.
He was one of the signators to the Neocons' bible (PNAC) the document they wrote and signed all about their plans to take over the world and its resources.

All the Neocons are backpedalling as fast as they can, not only to try and save Bush's butt (too late), but also because they likely will see their own war crime trials in the near future.

"Those are Perles that were his eyes"

Revisionist history from the neo-Conartist extrodinaire, Dicky Perle?

Geez, who'da thunkit?/snark>

Anyon who buys into this hstorical sea-change is either a dyed-in-the-wool true believer or a brain dead partisan hack.

Nice try Tricky-Dicky, but no matter how much you try to poish up the turd that is yer legacy it still stinks through and through

Strewth.

Again, good eye, Rein.

Be Well.

I could wipe my ass with that little shit. Perle's a motherfucking liar of the worst sort.

........the Party of Personal Accountability......

The Neocons on the list are the men who took us into Iraq with false intel and planned it well before 9-11. They signed the PNAC document which laid out their plans for all to see. Too late for them to back out now.

#11 | Posted by CalifChris

May I see their plans?

I wouldn't do that, Numbersix-you have NO IDEA where the hell he's been-or what you'd catch......

For Cabo Vato enjoy

Easy, there, Lar, some can't handle them thar "big" words....

May I see their plans?

Good post, Larry. I'm wondering if Cabo's reading the January 26, 1998 Clinton letter?

The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

Elliott Abrams
Richard L. Armitage
William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner
John Bolton
Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama
Robert Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol
Richard Perle
Peter W. Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld
William Schneider, Jr.
Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz
R. James Woolsey
Robert B. Zoellick

Look at those names - oh, surprise! Perle's there!

Here is Richard Perle declaring the Iraq War illegal but justifiable

Thanks Yav. Tired of these folks trying to deny their support for this illeegal immoral unjustifiable war of aggression.

Larry

Larry,

Perle's statement about it being an illegal war, but justified is exactly the way the Bush admin viewed it, but they had to sell it. Hence the trumped (or sexed up) intelligence and BS. It was a "slam dunk" to sell the war with the BS they put out - and they knew it.

How many times did you argue it was an illegal war, and the righties kept saying "nuh-uh!" over and over again?

Well here it is, clear and plainly spelled out and admitted.

Good post, Larry. Don't let them off the hook!

I'm out of here for a while.

Yeah I know Yav. SOmeday they will learn the truth.

Larry

On a scale of 1 to 10, Richard Perle is a ____

On a scale of 1 to 10, Naomi Klein is a ____

On a scale of 1 to 10, Richard Perle is a ____

Corksoaker - 10

"There was no invasion of Iraq by a Republican President. There was no massive intelligence failure by a Republican President leading to 9-11. The economy didn't tank under a Republican President. Bill Clinton did it all in his 4 terms of office."

The Right

I know this is likely a shock-- but have you checked out the neocons on this list?

Madeline Albright
William Buckley
Richard Holbrooke!!
Jeanne Kirkpatrick
Chuckie Schumer!!

I mean come on--so folks wanted Saddam out--yeah and what is the point?

The Congress voted to give the authority to the POTUS to use military action to fight terrorism. We didn't need the permission from the UN. We are the US with our own laws.

If you want to argue the merits of the intel--sure.

But it was not an illegal war.

I (Bush) go to the cops (public and Congress) and tell them someone (Saddam) has threatened to kill someone. I have no real proof (the private detective I've hired - the UN Inspectors - can find no proof, and are, in fact, telling me there's nothing to it) so I piece together a note - conveniently deleting any doubts or naysayers - and then pass that on to the cops as 'proof'. The cops send in a SWAT team, people are killed.

When I'm found to be filing a false police report, and people are killed when the cops bust in the guy's house, I'm charged with 2nd degree murder, conspiracy, and filing a false police report.

At least that's what happens to criminals who'd pull something like that in the real world.

If you want to argue the merits of the intel--sure.

We will suffer for the "merits of the intel" of the Bush administration for decades to come.

The Congress voted to give the authority to the POTUS to use military action to fight terrorism. We didn't need the permission from the UN. We are the US with our own laws.

If you want to argue the merits of the intel--sure.

But it was not an illegal war.

#28 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-10 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Sorry but Dubya did need to get the UN's permission. He agreed to it by having the UN Abassador sign UN Treaty resolution 1441. Nowhere in said document gave automacy of force authority to any member State to invade Iraq. Sorry that You don't understand this.

Larry

Oh and pray tell if the AUMF of October 2002 gave Dubya permission for the use of military force. Why then did Dubya use the AUMF for those that planned and carried out September the Eleventh that was signed just days after September the eleventh of 2001. HBe admitted to the Illegality of the Iraq War.

Larry

I could wipe my ass with that little shit. Perle's a motherfucking liar of the worst sort. -- #12 | Posted by NumberSix

Rahm? Is that you?

Oh and Murphy those treaties that we sign onto become US Law or have You forgotten this?? Oh and if You have a probvlem with the UN then press Your congressman/Woman to remove the United States from the UN. Until then we must abide by that organ if we expect others to do the same.

Larry

Larry

For such a small percentage of the US population, there are a lot of Jewish surnames in that document. Among them, well respected writer Bill Kristol and Daniel Pipes. I guess when you control the media, you control the rhetoric and public opinion. Im more concerned on how these Zionist's will try to morph their way in the Obama Admin. If theyd're able to do that I think we're headed towards a Global conflict that this world has never seen. And if its true that Bush vetoed giving Israel bunker busting weapons to bomb Iran, then I have to think Israel will find some way to get Obama to do it or Israel will find some way to do it themselves. Either way, it doesnt look good.

Poor Perle and all his little zionist buddies-like McToast and Bush/Cheney, they were suckered into invading Iraq by the Iranian spy services. Achmed Chalibi (you righties remember him-Dubya sat him next to Laura at one of his SOTU crapfests) works for Iran, he fooled the neo-con idiots (couldn't have been that hard) into believing he could lead Iraq, the "intel" used about WMD all came from his drunken buddy "curveball" and the INC, which lived the high life in London on US taxpayers dollars was run by Tehran, especially Bush-buddy maliki's DAWA party. One of Chalabi's selling points was he would recognize Israel and re-open a pipeline to supply Israel with cheap oil.

Again, good eye, Rein.

Be Well.

Thx tater, the fact that Perle and Feith and the rest of these scumbags are distancing themselves from the massive failure Iraq has turned into is awfully pathetic.

The best thing that can be done regarding Pearle et al is to aggressively respond to the apologist that are and will come out of this administration. They will defend what they have done. They have no choice. This response must be total and without pity and absolutely without cessation. And it likely could continue for decades. But in this effort care must be taken as applied to those that served and are serving.

There's a good chance Bush, Cheney, and other administration members will have to answer to the World Court at the Hague. A few countries already have indictments drawn up.

AU- I'd rather we cleaned up our own yard. The idea of a foreign country prosecuting our leaders, instead of us doing it, feels wrong.

We could be headed for a major international incident if Obama gives Bush a pass.

I've read in recent days that Congress is quietly looking at all the options - which include doing their own criminal investigation, but also with the option of handing over evidence to an international court who have jurisdiction to investigate war crimes.

There's a good chance Bush, Cheney, and other administration members will have to answer to the World Court at the Hague.

There's a chance they may be charged in a foreign/international court, but there is little chance that Bush/Cheney will answer for anything.

Bush and Cheney will never be prosecuted. There aren't enough honest politicos to gain a concesnus to do so.

Thx tater, the fact that Perle and Feith and the rest of these scumbags are distancing themselves from the massive failure Iraq has turned into is awfully pathetic.

www.oldamericancentury.org

~Reinheitsgebot

They are banking on the fact that an unfortunate percentge of the population has the short term memory of a goldfish with ALS.

"Hey look, a CASTLE! Kewl!"

Too bad fer them that blogworld is memeworld and that their fingerprints are all over the fuckshow that is Iraq.

"People who forget history are doomed to repeat it"

Do. Not. Want.

Be Well.

#28 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-10 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag: ABORT/RETRY/FAIL?

Perle is a twat. The Iraq War was their idea.

#4 | Posted by NEALANDBOB_GOP

Just like Viet Nam was blown out of proportion by LBJ.

So what's your point?

Seems to me a large number of dems voted to go into Iraq. I guess their votes were illegal too.

"There was no invasion of Iraq by a Republican President. There was no massive intelligence failure by a Republican President leading to 9-11. The economy didn't tank under a Republican President. Bill Clinton did it all in his 4 terms of office."

----

Chock another one up to Clintons Penis.

And here I thought it was the redcoats fault.

My bad...

"So what your point....?"

I guess the point would be that stupid rip-off of a war in Iraq was their idea.

For such a small percentage of the US population, there are a lot of Jewish surnames in that document. Among them, well respected writer Bill Kristol and Daniel Pipes. I guess when you control the media, you control the rhetoric and public opinion. Im more concerned on how these Zionist's will try to morph their way in the Obama Admin. If theyd're able to do that I think we're headed towards a Global conflict that this world has never seen. And if its true that Bush vetoed giving Israel bunker busting weapons to bomb Iran, then I have to think Israel will find some way to get Obama to do it or Israel will find some way to do it themselves. Either way, it doesnt look good.

#35 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-10 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your problem seems to be paranoia over Zionism. What's your "final solution?" You began a post a week or so ago with "As a Christian." Are you one of those "the Jews killed Jesus...let's get them all" "Christians?"

You knew this was coming.

"You knew this was coming."

Yep... along with "this recession isn't Bush's fault, it is the fault of Obama."

All from the party of so-called "personal responsibility."

Hans

Note that Perle doesn't deny that the Iraq War was founded on neocon ideology, only that the "mistakes" weren't. But the biggest mistake was in going in there in the first place, and that was pure neocon. Just take a look at their website Project for the New American Century (better named the Project for America to Take Over the World).

Check out who signed their Statement of Principles. (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby, Abrams, Bennett, Jeb Bushremember Jeb Bush!) Then check out their flagship monograph: Rebuilding America's Defenses. At page 11, it states: "[W]e need to: . . . [2nd bullet point] fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars." Not just be capable of doing so, it outright advocates that we need to fight simultaneous major theater wars. Before you believe this was a typo, consider that this has been on this neocon website for more than eight years.

The only thing that saved us from these morons was that that same paper asserts that they were going to fund this suicide with the surpluses generated by the Bush administration. Instead we got record deficits, and will probably have them for the next eight years also, while we try to dig ourselves out of the hole into which the philosophies of Richard Perle and his neocon ilk have thrown us.

Your problem seems to be paranoia over Zionism. What's your "final solution?" You began a post a week or so ago with "As a Christian." Are you one of those "the Jews killed Jesus...let's get them all" "Christians?"

#49 | Posted by MACV1972 at 2009-01-11 10:46 AM

I am. What's ur solution to the fact the US has given Israel over 40 billion in aid the last 30 years? What's your solution in stoping Israel from using American Jews working for the CIA/FBI from stealing top secret information about American defense. Just this week, another American Jew was arrested for espionage. Pollard, Franklin just to name a few. What's your solution in keeping AIPAC from strong arming US politicians who even slightly oppose Israe's apartheid system with the Palestians? AIPAC poses itself as a non-profit with generous tax breaks when this organization is really a Zionist shadow govt withing the US with their main goal of preserving the statehood of Israel, even if it considerably weakens the US? Bottom line, where do your loyalites lie? The US or Israel. Judging by your bullshit retort to me, I'll say the latter.

I am. What's ur solution to the fact the US has given Israel over 40 billion in aid the last 30 years? What's your solution in stoping Israel from using American Jews working for the CIA/FBI from stealing top secret information about American defense. Just this week, another American Jew was arrested for espionage. Pollard, Franklin just to name a few. What's your solution in keeping AIPAC from strong arming US politicians who even slightly oppose Israe's apartheid system with the Palestians? AIPAC poses itself as a non-profit with generous tax breaks when this organization is really a Zionist shadow govt withing the US with their main goal of preserving the statehood of Israel, even if it considerably weakens the US? Bottom line, where do your loyalites lie? The US or Israel. Judging by your bullshit retort to me, I'll say the latter.

#53 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 12:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

And thus exits any credibility Redsoxfan may have hoped to maintain. Your obvious, self confessed hatred of Israel and all Jews paints you into your bigoted little corner. One must judge anything you say in light of your hate.

BTW, hatred of Israel is not a mark of a true Christian.

That was a quick response by you. You must either work for JDL or even AIPAC. Anyway, still waiting for your solutions??? How to handle Israel? American Jews/Israel spying on the US? And how to handle AIPAC? All fact!!! Im waiting. And leave religion out of it.

That was a quick response by you. You must either work for JDL or even AIPAC. Anyway, still waiting for your solutions??? How to handle Israel? American Jews/Israel spying on the US? And how to handle AIPAC? All fact!!! Im waiting. And leave religion out of it.

#55 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

And your posts...would they make you a tool for Hamas...Hizbollah...or both?

How to handle Israel? American Jews/Israel spying on the US? And how to handle AIPAC? All fact!!! Im waiting. And leave religion out of it.
#55 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

The way we should handle any ally who spies on us...astutely and diplomatically. Or do you think Israel is the only ally who spies on us. Anyone who has a stake in U.S. policy is likely to try to get us much data as possible. And guess what, we spy on our allies when deemed necessary. Pragmatism...the only ism not imported from elsewhere...is ingrained in the culture. We will weigh the pros and cons and act in our own best overall interests.

As for religion, you're the one posing as a Christian and spewing hate. I simply called you on it.

No asshole. Actually a tool for the safety and well-being of John Q American taxpayer. Obviously, you could give a shit about the current state of the economy, the rapid increase in job losses and manufacturing, and the fact american politicians have to bend to pressure from powerful American Jews to ensure the safety of Israel. Since you're going to skirt around answering my questions because that's would you've been brainwashed to do, then dont bother me with these generic one sentence reponses.

I see that you did respond to my questions, but just a lot of lip service there. IMO. Who's spewing hate? Is my name Goebbels? Am I affiliated with a neo nazi group. Am I calling for Kristallnact part deux? You're basing your argument with on religion and Im basing it on facts that have nothing to do with religion. Why is that everytime Jewish-American policy is challenging by anyone they get labelled an anti-semite? I call BS on that!!! Stop using your faith to further your cause.

No asshole. Actually a tool for the safety and well-being of John Q American taxpayer. Obviously, you could give a shit about the current state of the economy, the rapid increase in job losses and manufacturing, and the fact american politicians have to bend to pressure from powerful American Jews to ensure the safety of Israel. Since you're going to skirt around answering my questions because that's would you've been brainwashed to do, then dont bother me with these generic one sentence reponses.

#58 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I see that you did respond to my questions, but just a lot of lip service there. IMO. Who's spewing hate? Is my name Goebbels? Am I affiliated with a neo nazi group. Am I calling for Kristallnact part deux? You're basing your argument with on religion and Im basing it on facts that have nothing to do with religion. Why is that everytime Jewish-American policy is challenging by anyone they get labelled an anti-semite? I call BS on that!!! Stop using your faith to further your cause.

#59 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're the Jew hater with the profanity here. I haven't mentioned my faith in regard to this exchange; simply noted that you claimed to be a Christian but your hatred of Jews belies that. Your facts are held suspect by your bias against Jews. They could be true; but, with you as the source, they don't hold much weight. Just pump up the vitriol...perhaps you can convince yourself.

Obviously, you could give a shit about the current state of the economy, the rapid increase in job losses and manufacturing, and the fact american politicians have to bend to pressure from powerful American Jews to ensure the safety of Israel.

The Jew is responsible for the current state of the economy.?The Jew is responsible for the rapid increase in job losses and manufacturing? American politicians have to bend to pressure from the powerful American Jews to ensure the safety of Israel? Stock neo-nazi drivel. Goebbels would be proud.

You're the Jew hater with the profanity here. I haven't mentioned my faith in regard to this exchange; simply noted that you claimed to be a Christian but your hatred of Jews belies that. Your facts are held suspect by your bias against Jews. They could be true; but, with you as the source, they don't hold much weight. Just pump up the vitriol...perhaps you can convince yourself.

#60 | Posted by MACV1972 at 2009-01-11 03:05 PM | Reply

Put your Anti-Semitism playbook away. I go ahead and flag me. I dont give a shit. I speak the truth. You can't handle it. Tell me why we give our taxpayers dollars to Israel. WHY? What do you know about AIPAC? Either nothing or a lot? What should be do about them? Answer the question!!!! And save the Anti-Semite card for someone else. Doesnt work on me.

Tell me why we give our taxpayers dollars to Israel.

The vast majority of US Aid to Israel is spent on weapons systems purchased from both the US and Israeli MIC.

Those MICs (which now include the vast preponderance of American Media) perpetuates a propaganda system that does things like sways public opinion (See Iraq War Build up) under the guise of reflecting it and deflects it away from inconvenient facts.

Here's is one example of such...

Under global non-proliferation treaties America has signed onto, it is illegal to give financial aid to any country that is an undeclared nuclear signatory.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear state.

Ergo, all foreign aid to Israel is illegal under American law.

America not only continues to give Israel aid but it is now (and has been for years) the number one recipient of US foreign aid (with Egypt coming in a distant second).

America also actively encourages Israel to remain an undeclared nuclear power and has done so from Nixon on down to the present day.

Perhaps a massive protest regarding these facts would help change the governments mind on these topics but sadly these days it seems that the disconnect between public opinion and public policy is practically total.

Sad but true.

The only real way to counter this untenable, unsupportable and ultimately unsustainable one sided and disingenuous support of the Israeli war machine is to achieve a tipping point of conciousness on the subject. Spud believes this can be done by having more people by-pass traditional sources of information or at least by wising them up enuff to start taking all corporate news with a grain of salt while weeding through the massive chaff in order to find the tiny portions of wheat.

In brief, getting folks to think for themsleves.

The advent of blogworld, simultaneous, real-time global communication that destroys the old pyramidal structure of news distribution in favor of a more progressive, horizontal structure, is our last best hope to achieve this aim.

Be Well.

Concerning Israel.

Perle is a scum sucking war profiteer. And, unlike Bush, very good at debate and spewing propaganda.

He promoted the Iraq War and profited from it. Had to leave an advisory because of the obvious conflict of interest.

So he left and pocketed his share of the war profits.

Alternate Headline - Neocon: Don't Blame Neocons for Iraq War

Stupid sunovabitch

The vast majority of US Aid to Israel is spent on weapons systems purchased from both the US and Israeli MIC.

Those MICs (which now include the vast preponderance of American Media) perpetuates a propaganda system that does things like sways public opinion (See Iraq War Build up) under the guise of reflecting it and deflects it away from inconvenient facts.

Here's is one example of such...

Under global non-proliferation treaties America has signed onto, it is illegal to give financial aid to any country that is an undeclared nuclear signatory.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear state.

Ergo, all foreign aid to Israel is illegal under American law.

America not only continues to give Israel aid but it is now (and has been for years) the number one recipient of US foreign aid (with Egypt coming in a distant second).

America also actively encourages Israel to remain an undeclared nuclear power and has done so from Nixon on down to the present day.

Perhaps a massive protest regarding these facts would help change the governments mind on these topics but sadly these days it seems that the disconnect between public opinion and public policy is practically total.

Sad but true.

The only real way to counter this untenable, unsupportable and ultimately unsustainable one sided and disingenuous support of the Israeli war machine is to achieve a tipping point of conciousness on the subject. Spud believes this can be done by having more people by-pass traditional sources of information or at least by wising them up enuff to start taking all corporate news with a grain of salt while weeding through the massive chaff in order to find the tiny portions of wheat.

In brief, getting folks to think for themsleves.

The advent of blogworld, simultaneous, real-time global communication that destroys the old pyramidal structure of news distribution in favor of a more progressive, horizontal structure, is our last best hope to achieve this aim.

Be Well.

Thank you Spud for clarifying succinctly my question. Now if only MACV1972 would do the same and clarify my question for him. Unfortunately, I get labeled an anti-semite. Sad, but true.

LOL.

Of course, Pakistan and India are also countries that have refused to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and each is in non-compliance with UN regulations to stop all nuclear development and divest themselves of their nuclear weapons. They also (like Israel and, for that matter, the United States) forbid international inspection of all of their military nuclear installations.

Yet, the United States gives billions of dollars a year to Pakistan and not only pours money into India, but Bush has signed an agreement to supply advanced nuclear technology and highly refined nuclear fuel to India, all without a complaint from the Israel bashers.

Unlike Israel, which has never been on the verge of actually using its nuclear arsenal, Pakistan and India have been on the ragged edge of nuclear exchanges in their last two wars (at least) over the past decade or so. In addition, tensions between the two rogue nuclear states are again on the rise, and, to make matters worse, the Pashtun radicals in Pakistan (who number 45 million and include the Taliban) are spreading out and threatening to destabilize and ulitmately overthrow the Pakistani government and make Pakistan the first nuclear-armed fundamentalist Islamic Republic.

So, when we have Pakistan, India, and Israel all rogue nuclear states, yet the poster only picks out Israel and ignores Pakistan and India, what are we to conclude? Perhaps the poster sees Israel and the Jews as somehow different than the rest of the world.

There is a name for this form of negative stereotyping of Jews - anti-semitism.

Like all conservatives, no claim to fame when shit goes bad based on their decisions, but if anything even remotely goes right they toot their own horn like Kenny fucking G.

LM

Success has many fathers. Failure is an orphan.

Like all conservatives, no claim to fame when shit goes bad based on their decisions, but if anything even remotely goes right they toot their own horn like Kenny fucking G.

Kenny G plays the saprano saxophone son.

Put your Anti-Semitism playbook away. I go ahead and flag me. I dont give a shit. I speak the truth. You can't handle it. Tell me why we give our taxpayers dollars to Israel. WHY? What do you know about AIPAC? Either nothing or a lot? What should be do about them? Answer the question!!!! And save the Anti-Semite card for someone else. Doesnt work on me.

#62 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2009-01-11 03:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's not a card. It's not a play book. The point is, your apparently virulent anti-semitism colors your every arguement and protest. That makes it difficult to assiqn any reason or value to your commentary...which makes your flailings here and elsewhere entirely predictable and irrelevant.

The right wing has always been antisemitic.

They have learned to hide it behind support for the Israeli war pig state is all.

Then the motherfuckers call those of us who don't want to support that genocidal state as antisemitic.

War = good
Peace = bad

Same NeoNazi(Con) propaganda to this fucking day.