There is some evidence that Israeli operatives are responsible for firing some of these rockets to create a reason to invade Gaza. More false flag terror. Problem, reaction, solution, don't ya know...

And isn't it ironic that Hamas was created by the Mossad?

"Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

There is some evidence that Israeli operatives are responsible for firing some of these rockets to create a reason to invade Gaza. More false flag terror.
posted by JeffNDenmark

The slogan of Mossad says it all.

"By way of deception thou shalt do war"

your nuts... we didn't land on the moon either...

its starting

you conservatives have started armegeddon

happy?

probably
you would love to see billions die just to be proved wrong that jesus won't return

"your nuts... we didn't land on the moon either..."

#3 | Posted by libslayer at 2009-01-08 11:42 AM

Why are you talking about someone's testicles?

And what does someone else's testicles have to do with landing on the moon?

Hans

and this is even in the face of israel giving time each day for palestinains to get food and supplies
hamas would NEVER do something like that but israel does and will continue to be called the worse of the two..............I guess its pretty typical though

and the 3 hour time out yesterday only lasted a few mins because of hamas attacks...........go figure

and this is even in the face of israel giving time each day for palestinains to get food and supplies
hamas would NEVER do something like that but israel does and will continue to be called the worse of the two..............I guess its pretty typical though

From what I read, it's 3 hours every other day. And if you really think that 3 hours is enough time to get any sort of real relief to the people living in Gaza before the barrages begin again, you're fooling yourself.

Gee, what a surprise.

"There is some evidence that Israeli operatives are responsible for firing some of these rockets to create a reason to invade Gaza."

So..when is Israel allowed to do anything? Even if they are fired at from Lebanon, freaks like you are going to say they shot at themselves. So if they ever really are attacked, they aren't allowed to respond. Is that basically what you're saying? I mean, since every attack is somehow their own fault.

Kinger, I agree with you the three hours is every other day and it is really intended to flush out the Hamas positions while resupplying. The Israelis do not care if the Palestinians starve.

Jeff spot on - Hamas is a Mossad creation just as Al Qaida is a CIA creation.

JERUSALEM, Jan. 8 -- The United Nations on Thursday said it was indefinitely suspending all humanitarian aid deliveries in the Gaza Strip, citing a series of Israeli attacks on U.N. facilities and personnel during the 13-day Israeli offensive.

The suspension appeared likely to deepen a sense of crisis in Gaza, where more than half the territory's 1.5 million people live on food aid from the United Nations and where water, power and cooking gas are all in short supply.

The decision came after a convoy of three U.N. vehicles was fired upon Thursday by Israeli forces during a mission to recover the body of a U.N. worker who had been killed in a previous Israeli attack, according to United Nations Relief and Works Agency spokesman Chris Gunness. He said three U.N. workers have been killed by Israeli fire so far and that aid will not resume until "the Israeli army can guarantee the safety and security of U.N. personnel."
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Given Israel's long standing love of killing UN workers, I'd have to say good luck with that.

#9 | Posted by JOE
Israel should not be the country who cried wolf, or Holocaust, or Antisemitism or they will soon be ignored. Get my drift?

"And if you really think that 3 hours is enough time to get any sort of real relief to the people living in Gaza..."

I can't remember many wars where there was even a twenty minute cease fire for relief supplies to get through....can you? Would Hamas or hezbollah allow that if the shoe was on the other foot?

Would Hamas or hezbollah allow that if the shoe was on the other foot?
#13 | Posted by jestgettinalong

So now Israel is judging itself by what Hamas does?

That sure is taking the high road.

I can't remember many wars where there was even a twenty minute cease fire for relief supplies to get through....can you?

How stupid do you think we are?

The 3 hours is to trick people into coming out into the open whee they will be exposed and killed. Of course, Isreal would say "we were fired upon and were responding in self defense".

All bullshit.

"There is some evidence that Israeli operatives are responsible for firing some of these rockets to create a reason to invade Gaza."

Nonsense flag. There is no evidence. They didn't need another readon to invade Gaza.

"And if you really think that 3 hours is enough time to get any sort of real relief to the people living in Gaza..."

It doesn't give them time to re-arm their rockets either. I'm thinking Israel will use the time to find more targets and update their intel.

Give them the hell that they deserve!!!!!

you conservatives have started armegeddon
happy?
probably
you would love to see billions die just to be proved wrong that jesus won't return
#4 | Posted by klifferd

Hey Klifferd back on the other thread where you kept referring to my "man parts" I am still confused are you still saying that you are gay and that is the reason you are obsessed with my "man parts". Anyway I do use the word pussies a lot as you stated in your other post especially when referring to HamAss, I also use cowardly bastards as they shoot from under the dresses of women and behind children drawing RETURN FIRE on the innocent. HamAss is still hiding in the Gaza Hospitals dressed as doctors and using ambulances to transport there so called fighters. You still will not answer my questions so I will try just one. If the Gaza strip was attacked every day for years by rouge missile attacks from Israel would HamAss the elected government just sit there and do nothing. Also would you please clarify your obsession with my "man parts" to be honest it does sound a little gay to always be mentioning them...

P.S Peace be upon you...

It's only a war when BOTH SIDES are fighting.

Give'em hell!!!!

They didn't need another readon to invade Gaza.

Yes they did.

They failed to starve out Hamas, so now they got themselves the excuse to kill them.

Fuck me, I have read crap before but this tops it all. Now Israel is sending rockets from Lebanon into it's own territory. My bullshit detector is screaming. The anti-semetic group is really dragging the bottom now.

What these types really want is a newer version of the "final solution". They're just Jews right? Nuke', and end all this nonsense.

Work hard at pulling your head out of your ass. It is hard to see anything but shit up there and the truth ain't to be found in your rectum.

"So now Israel is judging itself by what Hamas does?"

In the context of a war or even just a fight, you kind of have to sink to the level of the opponent or you give them a huge advantage by following "rules' that they do not. That's just common sense.

"They failed to starve out Hamas, so now they got themselves the excuse to kill them."

They already had good reason to kill Hamas.

I also use cowardly bastards as they shoot from under the dresses of women and behind children drawing RETURN FIRE on the innocent

As oppossed to bombing children from 20,000 feet!?!?!?

You're a fucking wackjob!!!!!

Defend yourself or learn to shut the fuck up.

They already had good reason to kill Hamas.

Not good enough to kill them.

They do now.

I also use cowardly bastards as they shoot from under the dresses of women and behind children drawing RETURN FIRE on the innocent

As oppossed to bombing children from 20,000 feet!?!?!?

I didn't know those bombs contained their children when dropped from 20,000 feet. Got any links?

In the context of a war or even just a fight, you kind of have to sink to the level of the opponent or you give them a huge advantage by following "rules' that they do not. That's just common sense.
#23 | Posted by Sully

Which leads to torture and... well, you know the routine by now.

Defend yourself or learn to shut the fuck up.
#25 | Posted by Manypaths
Oh shit now I have done it, Klifferd is really pissed at me and is obsessed with my "man parts" so I think he is gay and now I have manypaths after me the internet tough guy lordy lordy what is I gonna do...

"Not good enough to kill them.

They do now."

You seem to think that just because the reason is a good one, that it must have been staged by Israel. Is it impossible for the enemies of Israel to have created that reason themselves?

#23 | Posted by Sully

This post in incorrect. What a professional army will do is "Plan your work and work your plan," you don't fight your enemies war you fight your war the way you want to, otherwise you are just reacting (sound familiar?).

Those who control the pace of the war will win the war. This is why Israel will not win. This battle is being paced by Hamas. Israel will have to withdrawal soon due to international pressure and Hamas will still be there. So Israel will have lost their objective and hence the war.

Explain to us how manly it is to kill unseen children from planes.

Can you do it? Or does your judgement of killer-cowards change if they are wearing a kippah?

They already had good reason to kill Hamas.

Then one must agree that Hamas has every reason to kill Isrealies.

You CANNOT deny this.

Explain to us how manly it is to kill unseen children from planes.

If they are unseen, how do they know their bombs killed them?

They read about it in the paper the next day.

Manly huh?

I didn't know those bombs contained their children when dropped from 20,000 feet. Got any links?
#27 | Posted by crispee_oc

Yea here is your link I think you and Klifferd should hook up he is gay too. Anyway please justify HamAss fighters purposely launching rockets missals and mortars day after day over the heads of IDF forces and with malice intentionally targeting Israeli civilians instead of the IDF are HamAss pussies afraid to fight on the field of battle. Also why do they fire from civilian areas inside Gaza knowing the launch site will be a target for the IDF and killing their own people...

"That sure is taking the high road."

Fuck a "high road." Take the WINNING road. Do you believe for ONE microsecond that those Muslims would show an iota of mercy if Israel should lose by taking the "high road?" The Israelis know that they will be slaughtered like animals if they should lose and be subjected to those Muslims. Ask the refugees in Darfur about that.

They read about it in the paper the next day.

Manly huh?

I would say it is more manly than sticking bombs on your own kids and blowing them up from the comfort of your hideout.

Really? Something that you don't have the balls to do right?

Es the indiscriminate sending of unguided rockets into Israel and act of ????, what?

"Then one must agree that Hamas has every reason to kill Isrealies."

Ha...it wouldn't matter whether they did or not. The ONLY reason for the existence of Hamas is to destroy Israel and kill Israelis. After that, of course, they'll have to kill OTHER infidels (maybe even YOU) to justify their existence.

I pray Syria and Egypt join in. Time for Israel to be punished.

didn't know those bombs contained their children when dropped from 20,000 feet. Got any links?
#27 | Posted by crispee_oc

Yea here is your link I think you and Klifferd should hook up he is gay too. Anyway please justify HamAss fighters purposely launching rockets missals and mortars day after day over the heads of IDF forces and with malice intentionally targeting Israeli civilians instead of the IDF are HamAss pussies afraid to fight on the field of battle. Also why do they fire from civilian areas inside Gaza knowing the launch site will be a target for the IDF and killing their own people...

Could you possibly be more wrong about that #27 post? Of course calling me gay or comparing anything about me to klifferd only enhances your obvious stupidity. Congrats.

"This post in incorrect. What a professional army will do is "Plan your work and work your plan," you don't fight your enemies war you fight your war the way you want to, otherwise you are just reacting (sound familiar?)."

That may be in a text book somewhere but it ain't a history text book. History proves that what I said is true. Just one blatantly obvious example - the Allies did stuff during WWII that they wouldn't have imagined before the war (Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki).

"Those who control the pace of the war will win the war. This is why Israel will not win. This battle is being paced by Hamas. Israel will have to withdrawal soon due to international pressure and Hamas will still be there. So Israel will have lost their objective and hence the war."

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Hamas has ZERO chance of ever wiping out Israel. Either the Palestinians will wise up and get rid of Hamas or they can cling to their delusions while living in their little shithole ghetto. How anyone could think the latter makes anyone a "winner" is beyond me.

Really? Something that you don't have the balls to do right?

#39 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:00 PM

Send my innocent kids out to die for me? That takes balls in your skewed world Many?

The conditions are changing fast.

I said yesterday that one just has to hook up with the right ally or the right weapon supplier and things go up to a new level.

The Iran backed Hizbollah has shown it can give the Juden a hard time. Let us hope they well and truly enter the picture and fire more rockets into Isreal.

I would say it is more manly than sticking bombs on your own kids and blowing them up from the comfort of your hideout.

Not that I understand you but please tell us about these kids. Are they 7 or maybe 10 or are they 12? What age are you talking these kids?

I have not heard of this but since you are saying such you can provide information as to the validity of kids.

I have read quite a bit on this subject and everything I read is these are young adults usely 18 to 24 and very well educated, but you seem to know of a different picture.

they'll have to kill OTHER infidels (maybe even YOU) to justify their existence.

Didn't know you were such a pussy......BOO

ataxdodger

i am not mad
in anyway

i have a job
i make money

i do good for societ

sorry i don't have time to get into your in the closet gay fantasy's

typical conservative... can't come out with your own homosexuality so you try to accuse others... go play with larry craig

Send my innocent kids out to die for me?

Sounds like the USMC to me!

It really does not matter how Israel fights this war anymore, They have already lost.

They lost to Hezbollah in the summer of 2006.

They will lose to Hamas this winter.

Then what?

They have grown fat and lazy off the American tit and they have no one but themselves to blame.

Israel will be at its most vulnerable point since the beginning of their existence.

They can thank the Israeli Neocons for that.

"Then one must agree that Hamas has every reason to kill Isrealies."

It depends. Hamas' main complaint is a historical claim to the land currently called Israel.

They are not the only population on the planet with such a claim against a much more powerful entity.

They are the only population on the planet with such a claim that is too stubborn and downright stupid to realize that continuing their fight, regardless of whether it is "right", is against their best interests. When you have to resort to using your own children as human shields, most people start looking for another solution.

They aren't the first people on the planet to lose a war. They are just the only ones who childishly refuse to accept reality.

It depends. Hamas' main complaint is a historical claim to the land currently called Israel.

Yeah, I would probably be kiiling Jews then too if I were them.

israel can win
but they need to do what general patreous did.

but if they just keep playing this
"they choose hamas, now they have to deal with us" menatality which i heard several of their soldiers say on the news the last few days, they will definatley lose as prolix says.

Really? Something that you don't have the balls to do right?

#39 | Posted by Manypaths

HamAss the elected government of the Palestinian people hides in hospitals dressed as doctors they launch cowardly attacks from civilian areas drawing RETURN FIRE, use their women and children as shields hide their weapons and headquarters in mosques and are afraid to engage the IDF on the field of battle the whole world except for Klifferd , manypaths and the U.N see them for what they are a bunch of crybaby cowardly pussies...

#44 | Posted by Sully

Hamas does not have to "Wipe Out" Israel to win this battle. All they have to do is sustain a leadership role in the Gaza and they won.

It is Israel who stated their goal was to eliminate Hamas which they will not accomplish so they lose.

I wonder what Hamas would have "won" if Israel withdrew. Hamas would have survived and demonstrated to their followers that the wages of following Hamas, are distress.

If Hamas is prevented from rearming, and stops shooting missiles into Israel, Israel would have de facto accomplished their stated objectives.

Israel is not committed to "liberate" arabs in Gaza from Hamas. The group in the enclave, which will have been neutralized, can continue to live their lives in the suppression and misery attendant to living under sharia law, which is the law of Gaza. The primitive Islamics seem to find it necessary to demonatrate that the anachronism of sharia, which governed a society of "warriors" in the eighth century still suffices for them.

The Islamics exalt death and suicide, conquest, and suppression, and thereby pose a threat to the well-being of civilized people everywhere, who just want to be shed of the presence and interference of madmen driven by a guide prepared under the direction of a primitive illiterate. This illiterate was motivated by lust, a blood lust which impelled him to kill and torture, and a sex lust which caused him "to marry" a six year old, who was of course, prepubescent. That his followers revere his "perfect life" illustrates how degenerate Islamics are.

Continuing to fight a more powerful enemy with everything that you have is a long way from being a Coward.

Rolling over and accepting your fate at the hands of your enemy makes you a fucking pussy!

You have it all backwards.

#44 | Posted by Sully

Can you tell me where a battle has been won because the military was only reacting to their enemy and not forcing the battle upon their enemy? I mean only being passive and not the aggressor? I could always be wrong?

would say it is more manly than sticking bombs on your own kids and blowing them up from the comfort of your hideout.

Not that I understand you but please tell us about these kids. Are they 7 or maybe 10 or are they 12? What age are you talking these kids?

First of all you mis-understood the sarcasm to a ridiculous post. I would hope you don't agree with Many's wharped view. Seeing as you decided to waste time on my reply and ignored his insanity.

I would like to know your thoughts on teaching these 7-10 year olds about Jihad and infecting them with killing jews as their mission in life.

Hamas does not have to "Wipe Out" Israel to win this battle. All they have to do is sustain a leadership role in the Gaza and they won.

It is Israel who stated their goal was to eliminate Hamas which they will not accomplish so they lose.

No but to solve this problem once and for all, Israel does need to be wiped out. And more and more people are thinking that way the more Israel acts.

Day and night the rockets need to be shot in Israel. Israel will withdraw when the long range missiles arrive from Iran. Israel will be forced to retreat when the rockets begin to fall like rain in Tel Aviv.

#54 | Posted by klifferd

The IDF in my opinion does not have the ability to withstand the casualties it would require to do what Patreaus did. The general population would not stand for it. Just like with Hezbollah.

Day and night the rockets need to be shot in Israel. Israel will withdraw when the long range missiles arrive from Iran. Israel will be forced to retreat when the rockets begin to fall like rain in Tel Aviv.

Then America can step in and give all of the United States east of the Mississippi to the Jews and let them establish their homeland in peace.

Of course, all Americans living east of the Mississippi will have to leave their homes and move west, but it should be a pretty peaceful process.

Don't ya think?

"All they have to do is sustain a leadership role in the Gaza and they won.

It is Israel who stated their goal was to eliminate Hamas which they will not accomplish so they lose."

You conventiently ignore the fact that Hamas' reason for existing is to destroy Israel and it says so in their charter. Why am I not surprised?

As for them retaining control of Gaza, that will hurt the Palestinians more than the Israelis. Given the results of their leadership, you can't be pro-Hamas and pro-Palestinian. Their interests are at odds with one another.

Explain to us how manly it is to kill unseen children from planes.

Can you do it? Or does your judgement of killer-cowards change if they are wearing a kippah?

#32 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 12:52 PM | Reply

So it's manlier to kill them by lobbing a rocket from some innocent family's rooftop?

Tell me, how has Hamas faired since Israeli ground troops have entered Gaza? 3 dead Israeli soldiers from friendly fire, but how many have those manly hamas mutts killed? Oh, none.

Many i have always felt the Jews need to be assimilated back into the population. They have no need for their own country. Europe has become much more tolerant of jews.

No but to solve this problem once and for all, Israel does need to be wiped out. And more and more people are thinking that way the more Israel acts.

So you advocate killing several million people because...? Of course that would also kill a few hundred thousand americans as well. Would be for arresting all jews in the US and exterminating them as well?

Manypaths and klifford obviously support HamAss and the daily rocket missile and mortar attacks not to mention the suicide martyrs. It is also blatantly obvious both do not support Israel's right to exist and defend themselves from HamAss. Both seem to advocate strikes against Israel but condemn a retaliatory strike to suppress HamAss and their supporters. HamAss is filled with religious nuts that have publically stated many times they do not want peace and will continue to attack until the last drop of blood is spilled. Manypaths and klifford sound very much in agreement with HamAss, it is my hope and suggestion both of you move with your families to Gaza and continue the fight at all cost. You can be just like them hiding in hospitals pretending to be doctors or under your wife's dress ready for the next rocket launch. Death is all you understand you can be like the commander who knowingly did not leave his home after being warned by the IDF it was about to be hit. How glorious it must have felt to put his entire family at risk killing women and children alike on purpose to receive 70 virgins and paradise. Men traditionally take to the field of battle pussies and cowards hide behind children and under the dresses of women, I consider you both to be just like the pussies you so vehemently defend...

Oh I agree with you Chair. The Killing Bastards are mostly the Jews.

They do a lot more killing than the other group you claim to despise for killing.

But you are right. The real killers over there are the Jews. You hit it right on the head!!!!!

Johnson,
Just because you write lengthy post does not mean that you know what you are talking about.

To me it is a shotgun approve.

If you use enough words maybe, just maybe you will hit upon something.

"If you use enough words maybe, just maybe you will hit upon something."

Normally, a reasonable enough assumption.
However, Johnson often has a way of providing an exception.

And you support Israel.

So fucking what?

Why do I have to root for your team?

#70 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:25 PM | Reply

What's the matter baby, couldn't you address how manly it is to lob rockets from innocent families' rooftops?

And yes, the Israeli's are a much more efective killing force. The dumbshit's that vote Hamas in to power would be wise to remember that, but we're talking about stone aged savages here.

How about a real photo Kanrei.

Your propaganda comic strip is lost on me.

#65 | Posted by Sully

So, you don't think Israel's goal in the Gaza and West bank is ethnic cleansing?

Okay, Why are there still settlements in the West Bank? They are semi-autonomous yet inundated with illegal settlements and Israel is not doing anything about it. You see, If you stay in your place you are a good Palestinian. If you speak up or fight back you are a terrorist.

Also, please answer my question in #59 | Posted by Prolix247

ataxpayer is definately a closet homo

hahahhaha
he loves me

sorry bro
i don't swing that way

find yer self a bathroom stall and reach under for your next boyfriend

Your propaganda comic strip is lost on me.

Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:31 PM |

Just like truth, understanding, tolerance, and logic...

prolix

if they keep playing the blame game like conservatives always do they will never win.

patreous isn't blaming anyone
he took the time to know the people are desperate and that you can change their hearts

israel is doing what ataxpayer is doing
constant blame

just like him they are losers

The dumbshit's that vote Hamas in to power would be wise to remember that, but we're talking about stone aged savages here.

Ah, another despiser of Democracy when it doesn't work their way........

And remember, America voted for Bush, twice. Be careful in your glass house there.

I never said it was manly Chair. I am just pointing out the hypocricy of only calling one side cowards when the other is just as pussified.

Hey, just because you believe everything that you are told doesn't mean I have to.

Come on, Hamas hides behinds babies all the fucking time. You MUST have some photos to back it up.

But you used a drawing. Impressive!

Ah, another despiser of Democracy when it doesn't work their way........

And remember, America voted for Bush, twice. Be careful in your glass house there.

I never said it was manly Chair. I am just pointing out the hypocricy of only calling one side cowards when the other is just as pussified.

#81 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:35 PM | Reply |

Democracy is working just fine by me, it's the Palestinians that are now living with the consequences of their vote.

As for cowards, the guys flying the plane (your dad is a coward according to you right?) aren't flying with children on their wingtips.

Where are all of these Hamas groundtroops that were begging the Israeli's to enter Gaza on foot? Didn't they claim they had some grand trap for them? Weren't they ebgging them to come in? Well they came in, but shockingly the hamas mutts aren't sticking around to fight. They haven't even so much as killed one soldier have they?
Why? What's wrong with those brave hamas mutts?

I have officially jumped on the Lebanon bandwagon!

But you used a drawing. Impressive!

#82 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:36 PM

And even a simple drawing was, and I quote, "lost on me.*" Why would I torment you with anything more complicated to understand?

*Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:31 PM

What's the matter baby, couldn't you address how manly it is to lob rockets from innocent families' rooftops?

Well now, those rockets from the roof tops are not killing babies and children.

How manly are those rockets from planes that are guided to within 3 feet of the target?

#80 | Posted by klifferd

I agree. Israel is trying to fight a propaganda war while exterminating human beings.

They failed to realize that the world just had a propaganda war in which a million people(+) will have been exterminated and are not in the mood for a mini US to attempt it again.

Israel put themselves in a very bad position over politics as usual.

Well now, those rockets from the roof tops are not killing babies and children.

How manly are those rockets from planes that are guided to within 3 feet of the target?

#86 | Posted by moneywar at 2009-01-08 01:40 PM | Reply |

You're a retard Crappus.

Day and night the rockets need to be shot in Israel. Israel will withdraw when the long range missiles arrive from Iran. Israel will be forced to retreat when the rockets begin to fall like rain in Tel Aviv.
#62 | Posted by rastaninja

Another HamAss boil on the buttocks of humanity, have you considered the Israeli response to long range missiles from Iran. Israel would have no choice but to turn the entire middle east into one giant piece of glass via 150 nuclear warheads, bringing about Global Thermal Nuclear War otherwise referred to as Armageddon. I have already asked Klifferd and now I must ask you how long did you piss on the toilet seat before you learned to lift it up

And as my cousin Vinnie said I'm done with this guy...

The solution seems to be for Israel to disband its army and create a Hamas-like terrorist organization to randomly lob missiles into old age homes and schools in Gaza and then the international community would be fine. The problem with most seems to be the fact that Israel is better at it than those who start with them.

We could save the world by ridding it of Israel then.

Problem

Fucking

Solved!

That's my suggestion.

What is yours?

You're a retard Crappus.

You have debate skills like goatman, JJ, and a load of others.

Nice come back, it is fitting......can't answer the question now 101? Shoes on the other foot but can't answer the question.

I know you're a troll but at least come up with the old trolling ways, now you no better than old box itch or nicevile.

That's my suggestion.

What is yours?

#92 | Posted by Manypaths at 2009-01-08 01:47 PM

A one panel comic strip was lost on you so why would I try and explain a plan to you? I am not a sadist.

#90 | Posted by kanrei

Soooooo,
You never heard of Mossad?????

I will try to explain that comic strip to you and hope maybe words will reach where pictures obviously can't.

Hamas uses their children to protect themselves while Israel uses themselves to protect their children.

Nice come back, it is fitting......can't answer the question now 101? Shoes on the other foot but can't answer the question.

#93 | Posted by moneywar at 2009-01-08 01:49 PM | Reply

Your #86 doesn't make any sense what so ever. Hence-You're a retard.

I don't know how to make it any clearer. If you could form a sentence, or stay on track maybe people (jeffj, goatman, me) with a low tolerance for retards may actually attempt to answer you?

Prolix,
Yes I have heard of them, but it seems most people are bothered by how much more succesful Israel's missiles are over Hamas'. Hamas didn't launch a rocket into an old age home at lunchtime in the hopes of killing noboday; they just pretty much suck at it. So it seems if Israel stopped with the military and used terrorism instead then the playing field would be level.

Kanrei that is an obfuscation of the truth. While Hamas does kill children it is usually because their rockets are so primitive they can't really be guided. When Israel kills children they usually were aiming for them.

ataxpayer
you do realize i agree with 80% of what you say
but you say it such a dickhead way

and you are fighting with me for mostly no reason

and calling me a hamas supporter cause i disagree with 20% of what your saying

thats just plain retarded.

and as far as israel using nukes
they won't

iran is on the border of pakistan
if the fall out reaches pakistan
then nukes fly back to israel destorying it

then india will fire at pakistan

then china will fire at india
then america will fire at china
then russia

that is just not going to happen

and if it does
you asked for it
and its a damn shame.
cause i personally have no desire to see armegeddon in my life time like the evangelicals

noboday

I am offically ashamed of my typing skills.

Hey, just because you believe everything that you are told doesn't mean I have to.
Come on, Hamas hides behinds babies all the fucking time. You MUST have some photos to back it up.

#82 | Posted by Manypaths

I found them on this new device called a T.V usually the women and babies are already dead and the manly HamAss rocketiers have already hauled ass knowing they have just condemned the launch site to RETURN FIRE. What amazes me is the idiots who worship the tactics of HamAss...

This place is unhealthy.

well rasta

hamas does target civilians with their suicide bombers

which is why they are not heros either

nobody here is a hero

yet people seem to think there are

thats the problem

both sides are villains

and skizziks is 100% correct
we are funding both sides and they both suck

The problem with most seems to be the fact that Israel is better at it than those who start with them.

#90 | Posted by kanrei at 2009-01-08 01:45 PM | Reply

That's why this whole debate is so fucking funny (and easy).
If the dumbshits in "Palestine" would wise up they'd live a much better life. The Pali mutts can't even keep from killing themselves for fucks sake. Fatah v Hamas...

Why are those savages so hell bent on death and destruction? They are perpetual losers. They like losing so badly they even pick fights with themselves.

Does anyone else notice that 12 year old boy by the big gun, father with his hand proudly on his son's shoulder?

Notice the uniform...oh, there isn't one. I bet they would be counted as civilian deaths because they certainly are dressed like it.

Here's a thought:

End all economic aid to every foreign country!

Peacefully deport supporters of both sides (Israel/Palestine) to said region, thus removing them (and their influence) from the US.

Concentrate on US.

Why are those savages so hell bent on death and destruction?

101DungBeetle... No I have no idea why Isreal is bent on death and destruction.

"So, you don't think Israel's goal in the Gaza and West bank is ethnic cleansing?"

Israel, just like Egypt and everyone else, wants nothing to do with Gaza. They left Gaza completely. That's why Hamas has to fire rockets from there in order to get any Israel to pay any attention. Some Israelis want to take the West Bank, which Jordan doesn't want back. While the Israeli government has widely supported the settlers, it has also been open to recognizing a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank should the Palestinians ever produce leadership capable of makig a credible guarantee of peace. At no point have the Palestinians every produced any leader who wants and could guarantee peace.

"Can you tell me where a battle has been won because the military was only reacting to their enemy and not forcing the battle upon their enemy? I mean only being passive and not the aggressor? I could always be wrong?"

It has probably happened at least once but I don't know why you are asking me this. I never said that. I said that if you place restrictions on your troops that the enemy doesn't place on theirs, you are at a disadvantage. You wanted to contradict my claim but you can't so now you are pretending I said something that I did not.

and you are fighting with me for mostly no reason
and calling me a hamas supporter cause i disagree with 20% of what your saying
thats just plain retarded.

and as far as israel using nukes
they won't
#100 | Posted by klifferd

Yes I do say it in a "Dickheaded" way out of extreme anger at HamAss. I do not like seeing the innocent deaths of women and children regardless of race or religion. I am neither Israeli or Palestinian or even Arabic I do however hold HamAss responsible for the deaths on both sides of the innocent babies women and children. I wish the Palestinians would take HamAss and kill every single one of them to prevent this carnage. HamAss needs to be held accountable for brining war upon the innocent on both sides

Oh dear me... I show up and the post count has already crossed over a 100. And I ain't done nothing yet!

Before I automatically monopolize the whole meaningful love-fest, I am outta here.

Bye fuckers. Love and kisses.

#98 | Posted by kanrei

Look, I was in the Military and had the unfortunate mission of firing a 5" 54 cal cannon at people from a guided missile destroyor. I can tell you for a fact that I could see the faces of my targets from 12 miles away. I can also tell you that you can avoid civilian targets if you really want to.

I shot projectiles with no guidance systems (although the guns were aimed by radar) yet was fairly accurate. There is no way you can convince me that civilian targets are not purposefully targeted by IDF aircraft and tanks. They want the general population to turn against Hamas the only faction willing to step up on behalf of Gaza (big mistake)

As I stated before, the IDF cannot sustain too many casualties or the general population will turn on the government. So the government is purposefully lobbing missiles and bombs so they do not really have to go in by ground.

There is an election in Israel either this week or next and the last thing that Tippi or Bibi wants is a body count but they still want to show their population that they will keep them safe.

See this is politics (not an existential threat as they want the world to believe) for Israel and that is why they will lose.

So the government is purposefully lobbing missiles and bombs so they do not really have to go in by ground.

You just shot yourself in the foot. This has been a ground war for days now. Get caught up with CURRENT events and then try again.

My #115 was sarcastic and rude. I am sorry. However, this is a ground war and has been for a while now.

101DungBeetle... No I have no idea why Isreal is bent on death and destruction.

#110 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-01-08 02:11 PM | Reply

It's called comprehension Shit Hand.
If the whole post is about the Pali mutts, it would follow that the statement was about the Pali mutts.
I realize your people aren't big on the whole "learning" thing, but take a day or too out of the rape victim stoning and pick up a phonics book.

Sully, Go back and read your post.

Prolicker,
Tell me, how's Hamas fairing in the ground war you and the other apologists keep mentioning. You know, the one the Israeli's are afraid of.

I seem to recall some mighty boasts coming from the Hamas mutts days prior to the ground assault. How have those predictions panned out?

An update would be appreciated.

Hear somebody squealing like a stuck pig so I just popped back in...

It's called comprehension Shit Hand.
If the whole post is about the Pali mutts, it would follow that the statement was about the Pali mutts.
I realize your people aren't big on the whole "learning" thing, but take a day or too out of the rape victim stoning and pick up a phonics book.

I can see you never learnt the art of turn-around and sarcasm and irony. I wuz having fun with ya and you went all pissy. Shame shame.

Now go back to being a DungBeetle.

#115 | Posted by kanrei

Since there is a media black out how do you know? I think they are straddling the boarder just to say they are engaged to take pressure off the airstrikes. Look at the number of dead and casualties on the Israeli side. Doesn't seem like they have truly engaged to me.

Pro,
Please respond to number #116 instead. It says the same thing, but without being rude. I am sorry again for that.

#119 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Are you talking to me? If so address me with respect and I will do the same and respond.

#122 | Posted by kanrei

No problem, I take no offense to any postings here. All discussions are good.

I am sorry again for that.

And I am sorry for being sorry.

Are you talking to me?

DungBeetle can't talk right now...

Look at the number of dead and casualties on the Israeli side. Doesn't seem like they have truly engaged to me.

#121 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2009-01-08 02:28 PM

Personally I believe that is by design. Hamas has learned from doing things like this year after year that dead Israelis makes them the villians.

Call receptionist for appointment..

And I am sorry for being sorry.

#125 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-01-08 02:31 PM

What? I was saying sorry to Pro for being rude to him for no reason. I don't get your response though....

Tosser,
Please take a number and I'll be right with you.

I don't get your response though....

I just felt sorry and out it came.

I am honestly hoping that Israel will learn this time around that responding like the United States only serves to make them the villians in the world's eyes and the two sides will one day treat their difference like adults.

Tosser,
Please take a number and I'll be right with you.

No no no... not MY receptionist... I was saying call DungBeetle's receptionist for appointment.

After my kick in the nuts it will take him a little while to find his voice.

I do know for a fact that both Judisim and Islam condemns the very actions both sides are currently engaged in.

Are you talking to me? If so address me with respect and I will do the same and respond.

#123 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2009-01-08 02:30 PM | Reply

Yeah, isn't it obvious? Wasn't the "An update would be appreciated" polite enough for you?

Shit Hand,
You're background noise. Nothing more. When I feel like swatting you around, I do. When I don't, well, you get the picture.

Wasn't the "An update would be appreciated" polite enough for you?

Ooooo... DungBeetle is angry.

You won't like it when he is angry...

You're background noise. Nothing more.

Then why respond to me? LOL

I am more than background noise.... I am the voice of your inner demon that is responsible for your hemorrhoids.

Hamas has learned...that dead Israelis makes them the villians [sic].

Great strategy. Don't kill the enemy and reap a PR bonus.

At least it's not my funeral.

I am the voice of your inner demon that is responsible for your hemorrhoids.

#138 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-01-08 02:41 PM

So you are saying you are a pain in the ass?

Now 101DungBeetle will pretend he is more civilized and it is beneath him to respond to me... LOL

o you are saying you are a pain in the ass?

When I want to be I am the Ass Migraine.

#142 | Posted by Tosser at 2009-01-08 02:43 PM |

My first FF of the day. Thanks for the laugh.

Damn it... I was on my way out of here...

Chairpoodle/Dungbeetle... say something stoopid and I will be back in a flash.

Bye cunts.

I don't know if you have noticed, but no matter how intense the fight is here, I always try to leave on a light note and as friends. I would not come here if I did not enjoy the discussion and if I did not learn.

#127 | Posted by kanrei

Yes it is by design but by the israelis for the reasons I mentioned.

Let's look at some facts:
The Israelis called up approximately 5,000 troop to invade a 114 (I believe) mile area. I don't believe this is enough troop to accomplish their stated goal.

They have taken now about 10 dead (three by friendly fire, remember this fact) and two dozen wounded.

They have stationed themselves along the border in three different areas, the north, central, and southern boarders. This leaves those troops spread thin.

Each area more than like has a strike force of 20-100 or so guys that will react to ground troop to protect the artillery.

This leaves very little support for a true ground invasion.

This is against a enemy strength of let's say 40,000 adjusted for casualties and KIA in a dense urban area where fighting would be door to door.

The Israelis know Hamas has the upper hand her and could hide and attack from the rear should the Israeli troop advance into the center of the city so they won't.

Hence my belief that the Israelis are straddling the boarder.

Pro,
Yes, but also Israel knows that Hamas is trying to lure them into a door-to-door fight because they know that would increase innocent deaths. Remember, Hamas wears no uniforms so their dead can easily be counted as civilian casualites. I posted a photo eariler in this thread that shows a gun in a civilian area manned by un-uniformed troops and it even had a kid on it. How do you honestly think these people's death would be counted: Hamas or civilian?

Would the child who was on the gun be counted as Hamas, or would Israel be accused of killing a kid even though this kid was operating a massive anti-aircraft gun?

#147 | Posted by kanrei

It would increase Israeli deaths also, and in an election season no politician wants that. Hezbollah is the lesson here to remember. Remember the outcry. Same thing would happen with Hamas only worse.

#148

That really is a nonstarter, A child would not know how to use an anti-aircraft gun. I would have to see them shoot a few rounds to believe it.

On the other hand if their parent puts them in a dangerous situation like that only bad things will happen.

Kanrei in my life I expect to see Israel vanquished. The support grows thinner and thinner for Israel in this country.

Pro,
Here is the photo again to make it easier to find. This thread is getting long.

#150 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-01-08 03:04 PM

Good for you.

Kanrei just bury your head in the sand like a pusillanimous ostrich and not recognize that people see Israel for what it really is. A bunch of terror loving thugs.

#153 | Posted by rastaninja at 2009-01-08 03:08 PM

Okey-doky

I proudly acknowledge my support of NEITHER side in this conflict.

My loyalty lies with the US.

"Sully, Go back and read your post."

I didn't have to because I know what I said but I did anyway...

Your lack of comprehension doesn't make your right.

I never said battles are won by strictly reacting and never going on the offensive. You made that up.

I suggest you re-read what I said and let me know which words you don't understand.

Israel will withdraw when the long range missiles arrive from Iran. Israel will be forced to retreat when the rockets begin to fall like rain in Tel Aviv.

#62 | Posted by rastaninja

Are they gonna sneak those "long range missiles" in from Iran underneath their robes along with the launch systems? The small rockets they have been lobbing are one thing. The Irani Shahab series is quite the other.

"Most of the Hamas rockets targeted at Israel are rudimentary, cobbled together in small metal shops in densely populated Gaza. But a growing number are more sophisticated, longer-range weapons, believed made from parts thought to originate in Syria or Iran and smuggled in through tunnels from Egypt.

Despite that new capacity, Hamas' missile arsenal is still much smaller than that of another anti-Israeli militant group, Hezbollah. The Lebanese group, also supported by Syria and Iran, is not fettered by a tight border blockade and finds it easier to obtain arms.

Hamas' homemade rocket, known informally as the Qassam, is grossly imprecise, carries a small warhead of about 22 pounds of explosives. They have caused casualties but more often just spark panic.

The imported missiles, Katyushas, are better guided, travel farther and cause more damage because they have a warhead of up to 44 pounds, roughly the weight of a cannon shell from one of Israel's Merkava tanks."

Source:

#151 | Posted by kanrei

The child in the photo is only sitting on the gun and is in no way operating it. It could be possible that he has no family left and this is where he feels safe for good or bad. We don't know the context of this image so we can only speculate.

Will the child be considered a civilian death , Yes and he should be. He is not a fighter.

I have a picture on my hard drive of Israeli children writing their names and messages of hate on bombs about to be dropped on Palestinians, does that make them a legitimate target. Of course not. would they be considered a civilian death, yes.

Will the child be considered a civilian death , Yes and he should be. He is not a fighter.

You are guessing and have no way to know.

It could be possible that he has no family left and this is where he feels safe for good or bad.

What? Please no spin, just facts.

I have a picture on my hard drive of Israeli children writing their names and messages of hate on bombs about to be dropped on Palestinians
Not writing, but sitting on the planes as the bombs are dropped does.

You still have not commented on the fact that no one in that photo is wearing a uniform so all of them would be counted among civilians even though from the other guns they so proudly hold inthe photo, they are not.

Sully,
I responded to your post:
In the context of a war or even just a fight, you kind of have to sink to the level of the opponent or you give them a huge advantage by following "rules' that they do not. That's just common sense.
#23 | Posted by Sully

By stating that a professional army "Plans their work and works their plan."

You answered this -
That may be in a text book somewhere but it ain't a history text book. History proves that what I said is true. Just one blatantly obvious example - the Allies did stuff during WWII that they wouldn't have imagined before the war (Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki).

Which was a none answer. As there are always atrocities during war.

So I challenged you to see if there was ever a time that a professional army merely reacted to their enemy instead of pushing their enemy with aggression (Plan your work and work your plan) and here we are.

If I miss understood you, my bad.

#159 | Posted by kanrei

Look again I see 4 guys.

One of the few times I ever agreed with Rush Limbaugh is when he said "the purpose of war is to kill people and to break things and once war is declared, you kill and break until the enemy is ready to surrender." Unlike Rush, I use this view to justify never going to war.

I take that back, 3 guys.

Pro
I see one, maybe two. The guy in the operator's chair is wearing a white shirt and jeans. The driver is wearing a trucker's shirt, not a military uniform.

"No one in the photo" was an overstatement that hurt my point of view. I am only human and do get emotional during a debate. Sorry

Rush wouldn't know war if it was a boil on his ass.

But Pro,
That gun is in the middle of a civilian area, you cannot deny that. There is a child on that gun, you cannot deny that either and there are people operating that gun who are not in any uniform, You cannot deny that either. It creates enough reasonable doubt in how Hamas and the media are painting Israel's actions I believe.

Rush wouldn't know war if it was a boil on his ass.

#166 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2009-01-08 03:43 PM

A boil he would know, would remind him to go make pasta.

Does this surprise anyone?

And the aid trucks have halted.

Seems they found contraband in them and they killed the driver going into Gaza.

#164 | Posted by kanrei

I still see three. But now you are starting to understand the fog of war. Good for you.

#167 | Posted by kanrei
The Gun is on the back of a truck to make it mobile and will be used to attack aircraft who are dropping bombs in the neighborhood. Then it will reposition itself and wait.

As far as the nonmilitary people on the gun. looks to me that these people are happy to have the Hamas fighters there for protection and they wanted to climb on the cool equipment.

When my ship came into port we would allow tours on board. People always went to the guns first, just to touch them. It does not make them combatants.

"So I challenged you to see if there was ever a time that a professional army merely reacted to their enemy instead of pushing their enemy with aggression (Plan your work and work your plan) and here we are. "

Maybe it was my mistake for responding to this by restating my original point when it had nothing to do with that point.

Although I will assert that any army involved in a prolonged conflict must both plan and react to changing realities on the ground.

The Iraq War is a perfect example of "planning your work and working your plan" not working all by itself because the plan was based on ridiculously naive assumptions. When the administration finally faced reality, they sent more troops - which is exactly what they refused to do when they were sticking to the original plan. Now we are facing less losses over there, although the mission is still fatally flawed and utlimately a waste.

Changing tactics doesn't mean you aren't planning or being aggressive. It means you are learning.

Sully I would agree with the Iraq war analogy if there was a plan in the first place. There wasn't, that's why we got kicked in the nuts there. We are only facing fewer losses because we are no longer engaged.

I do agree with your last statement - That would be the "Work your Plan" part I posted.

Geez, we took Baghdad in a week with no plan. Man, we're better than I ever thought!

sully

also general patreous is a was extremely smart with getting friendly with the civilians and having them help him and work with the us military and not just having them hiding in between a fire fight.

he turned it around with more then just more troops
but by having the iraqi's police themselves.

#174 | Posted by everlong

Why are we still there then. You also do know that Baghdad is one city in a rather large country?

That's like saying we took Anaheim when we invaded California.

sully

also general patreous is a was extremely smart with getting friendly with the civilians and having them help him and work with the us military and not just having them hiding in between a fire fight.

he turned it around with more then just more troops
but by having the iraqi's police themselves.

oops double post

Baghdad is the capital city and was the home of Hussein. Are you saying that it took no plan to achieve?

"Baghdad is the capital city and was the home of Hussein. Are you saying that it took no plan to achieve?"

If our intent going in there was to just take Baghdad, kill Saddam and leave, then there was a complete plan.

Since we all know that this wasn't our intent going in there, you can't say we had a complete plan.

The high level project plan seemed to be:

1) Topple and kill Saddam
2) ?
3) Iraqis embrace democracy

Basically, we had the underpants gnomes from South Park running our military.......

A more astute American would be outrage that we'd send people to war without a complete plan.

Two retarded groups of terrorists stuck in an eternal waltz. Fucking great. Time to impose full control of Israel and Palestine and fix this problem.

No, Sully, I'm plenty astute. All I ever said was that we had a plan when we went into Iraq. I never said it was a good plan, or a well thought out plan, or a long term plan. I know, you couldn't know that I was just messing with semantics.

Sully,

Please tell me what the plan was in WWII.
If there was a plan all those marines wouldn't have been left behind in the Phillipines.

Please tell me the plan in Korea when the troops were sent without supplies for the Winter

#183 | Posted by timbci

Of course they had a plan.

Well looks like school is over.

Thanks for all the comments.

Hope we all learned something today.

Tomorrow is another day...

And from our soon to be illustriuos leader--he will have low level meetings with the thugs of Hamas and coming soon--Hezbollah.

What a friggin liar this idiot Obama is.

"What a friggin liar this idiot Obama is.

www.guardian.co.uk

#186 | Posted by MURPHY "

That's funny. Murphy spent the last 6 months lying about Obama.

NULL

That's what happens to those who worship "The Moosiah"

I pray Syria and Egypt join in. Time for Israel to be punished.

#42 | Posted by rastaninja

Israel had that in the past. I don't think The Arabs are stupid enough to try it again.

rastaninja-The way you write, you might just be that stupid. Why don't you go help your noble Palestinians? That would eliminate one idiot from the DR. Let me guess, you need help determining just who would be eliminated? Uncover a mirror in you home (tent) and find the answer. Ding ding ding ding!!!!

Monday, May 26, 2008

Carter: Israel has 150 Nuclear Weapons
Ex-US President Jimmy Carter has said Israel has at least 150 atomic weapons in its arsenal, responding to a question about US policy on a possible nuclear-armed Iran, arguing that any country newly armed with atomic weapons faced overwhelming odds. "The US has more than 12,000 nuclear weapons; the Soviet Union [sic] has about the same; Great Britain and France have several hundred, and Israel has 150 or more," he said.

Posted by rcade

Moosik break!

Moosik of "Hamas Anthem" dedicated to Isreal, Dungbeetle, Johny-Fundo, Evershort and other assorted worthies who aren't worth worthing.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.
When you take, you gotta give, so live and let live,
Or let go.
I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I could promise you things like big diamond rings,
But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of clover.
So you better think it over.
Well, if sweet-talkin' you could make it come true,
I would give you the world right now on a silver platter,
But what would it matter?
So smile for a while and let's be jolly:
Love shouldn't be so melancholy.
Come along and share the good times while we can.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I could sing you a tune or promise you the moon,
But if that's what it takes to hold you,
I'd just as soon let you go, but there's one thing I want you to know.
You better look before you leap, still waters run deep,
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out,
And you know what I'm talkin' about.
So smile for a while and let's be jolly:
Love shouldn't be so melancholy.
Come along and share the good times while we can.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.

Gen. Gadi Eisenkot, commander of the IDF Northern Command, has put forth the Dahiyah Doctrine since 2006. Eisenkot stated, "We will wield disproportionate power against every village from which shots are fired on Israel, and cause immense damage and destruction. From our perspective, these are military bases. This isn't a suggestion. This is a plan that has already been authorized."

I say, "Amen...and Amen!"

"There's gotta be a little rain sometimes."

Lots o' rain...I love it! It's rainin' in Gaza right now. I hope they like steel rain. Praise be to Allah!

as you wish...jest

Gaza victims' burns increase concern over phosphorus
By: malterwitty

Photographic evidence has emerged that proves that Israel has been using controversial white phosphorus shells during its offensive in Gaza, despite official denials by the Israel Defence Forces.

There is also evidence that the rounds have injured Palestinian civilians, causing severe burns. The use of white phosphorus against civilians is prohibited under international law.

The Times has identified stockpiles of white phosphorus (WP) shells from high-resolution images taken of Israel Defence Forces (IDF) artillery units on the Israeli-Gaza border this week. The pale blue 155mm rounds are clearly marked with the designation M825A1, an American-made WP munition.

no worries, obama(there can only be one pres at a time on an issue i dont want to talk about but there can be 2 pres on the economy) will open clandestine talks with hezbollah just like he will with hamas, and all will be perfect in the middle east.

Ataxpayers boyfriend.

#4 | Posted by klifferd

Hey Klifferd back on the other thread where you kept referring to my "man parts" I am still confused are you still saying that you are gay and that is the reason you are obsessed with my "man parts" and support HamAss...

no worries, obama(there can only be one pres at a time on an issue i dont want to talk about but there can be 2 pres on the economy) will open clandestine talks with hezbollah just like he will with hamas, and all will be perfect in the middle east.

You message is a little confused. What is it? That Obama is willing to talk about both? Some advice, the next time you try to entertain more than one thought, try to make sure they don't contradict one another.

UN: Israel Admits Claims About Attacked School Baseless

Much was made of the claim, including reports that Israel was mulling filing a formal complaint to the United Nations about Hamas' use of the facility. But as the United Nations poked holes in the official story, Israel is now backing off those claims.

And while Israel had previously claimed to have had proof to back up its story, Gunness says the military is now conceding that the mortar fire they previously claimed came from the school came from elsewhere in the refugee camp. Though Israel is trying to keep its admission of guilt relatively quiet (far more quiet than its allegations that the killings were justified) it will doubtless pay a further price in the court of international public opinion for having once again deliberately targeted a building full of innocent civilians.

It's rainin' in Gaza right now. I hope they like steel rain.

You miss the point.

The rain of rockets from the likes of Hamas and Hizbollah will keep increasing on the Juden.

No Juden army can stop homemade weapons and smuggled weapons.

Remember.. Isreal, the Jew Paradise itself was created using homemade weapons. All weapons plans are available for free on the internet. If you have a machine shop that can turn out rockets, you're good to go.

So this approach works.

Trust in history.

"Well now, those rockets from the roof tops are not killing babies and children."

So you're perfectly OK with the INTENTION to kill the innocent but pissed because they aren't any good at it? WTF? Fortunately Hamas is hard at work ALWAYS in building the bigger & better terrorist to maximise the loss of life so maybe they'll get better at killing the Jew who deserves it right? Hamas loves the death of their own children to solidify that they're the "victims" and they certainly don't give a rats ass about greiving mothers. I am sick to death of hearing how Israel's response is "excessive" when the entire goal of war is to kill or be killed. It is only considered "excessive" by those getting their asses kicked. Here's a thought? Stop starting a fight you can't win.

'am sick to death of hearing how Israel's response is "excessive" when the entire goal of war is to kill or be killed'

Well, Jimmy says they have 150 nukes plus...must be daunting to have people pissed off over losing all the time to a US funded machine...

Let us recap a few important points:

Palestinians voted overwhelmingly for Hamas to be their political leaders.

About Hamas:

1. They are a terrorist group! Apparently this fact has been lost by libtard sentimentalism.

2. Hamas now holds power in Gaza. Does that mean anything anymore? Nope, they're legitimate cuz democracy trumps terrorism, so let's talk to them!

3. They have murdered hundreds in suicide bombings. So what? It's their democratically legitimized civil rights to kill infidels and jews.

4. They have murdered their fellow arabs with brutality and callousnes. So what? after all they're just Arabs which Hamas is killing, knee capping or just flinging off of rooftops. It's a cultural thing...simply the rif-raf of Arab culture.

5. They have shot over 7000 rockets into israel aimed at civilians. Again, big deal! It's their democratic right, cuz they're now legitimate via democracy. Remember, Democracy trumps terrorism.

6. They advocate the genocide of all Jews. No big deal! Afterall, think of the poor Palestinian children and their schools used as shields for brave Hamas fighters. If Israel targets innocent children then they deserve genocide.

Now that being said, if Messiobama and the world insists that we should hold talks with this democratically legitimized group...Indeed, if Messiobama and other progressives of this world insist that we respect their heroes by "having talks"...such heroes like Hugo Chavez, Che, Castro, Pol Pot, Arafat and others...If we should also respect the great ideals of these progressives, ideals on social justice, then let's do it! With Hamas, Chavez, Castro, Pol Pot, Arafat and other great progressives as our heroes and models for diplomacy, let's sit down and have talks.

Let's have communication on par with these great progressives.

Our new motto should then be:

DEATH TO HAMAS!

I now advocate the genocide on any and all members of Hamas of any wing, political or military, and the complete use of any means possible to kill, torture and hurt Hamas and their families
Bounties should be established on heads of Hamas, Hezbollah, Leftist Radical leaders that we don't like and say to them, since we admit you hold power and will talk to us and you are committed to our destruction, we too hold power and are committed to destroy you!

I no longer accept a "2 state" solution, Any and all islamic/persian or arabs that attempt war against israel shall either be kneecapped or executed and their families homes be demolished and the grounds salted.

But we can talk! Hamas, please let's have tea! And oh, by the way - Your brave captured fighters? We will be keeping them in pits in the ground and they will not have any contact with the outside world.

Your killed comrades? Their bodies will be stitched into pig skins and fed to the sharks!

So when can we have tea? I like a little rum in mine.

Oh Hamas, Hezbollah and any others? I know a great pulled pork BBQ place that is great for sipping some scotch and eating those pork sandwiches

shall I book a table for you and me? Let's talk peace!

"I now advocate the genocide on any and all members of Hamas of any wing, political or military, and the complete use of any means possible to kill, torture and hurt Hamas and their families"

Believe it or not?

The four Goldberg brothers, Lowell, Norman, Hiram, and Max, invented
and developed the first Automobile air-conditioner. On July 17, 1946,
the temperature in Detroit was 97 degrees.

The four brothers walked into old man Henry Ford's office and
sweet-talked his secretary into telling him that four gentlemen were
there with the most exciting innovation in the auto industry since the
electric starter.

Henry was curious and invited them into his office. They refused and
instead asked that he come out to the parking lot to their car. They
persuaded him to get into the car, which was about 130 degrees, turned
on the air conditioner, and cooled the car off immediately.

The old man got very excited and invited them back to the office,
where he offered them $3 million for the patent.

The brothers refused, saying they would settle for $2 million, but
they wanted the recognition by having a label, 'The Goldberg
Air-Conditioner,' on the dashboard of each car in which it was
installed. Now old man Ford was more than just a little anti-Semitic,
and there was no way he was going to put the Goldberg's name on two
million Fords.

They haggled back and forth for about two hours, and finally agreed
on $4 million and that just their first names would be shown. And so to
this day, all Ford air conditioners show: Lo, Norm, Hi, and Max on the
controls.

So, now you know...

"And so to
this day, all Ford air conditioners show: Lo, Norm, Hi, and Max on the
controls."

I know that the story is true and that the Goldbergs were related to the King brothers, Nopar and Nosmo who have written their names on walls and signs all over the U.S.

#202 | Posted by TheOneBS

No one cares what a pedophile thinks TheOne.

No one cares what a pedophile thinks TheOne.

#205 | Posted by Prolix247

Now Prolix, just because my posts have struck a nerve in you doesn't mean you can project your dysfunctional issues onto the messenger.

I would suggest a certain organization to you that would help you with your paraphilia, but I'm pretty sure you bless and revel in it...so my counsel wouldn't do much good!

Hope you find help!

The notion that somehow Israel is bombing itself from Lebanon as a 'false flag' operation is absurd and offensive. There is no evidence at all to support this, other than uber-leftwing PC hatred of all things Israel.
Hamas is a terrorist organization sworn to killing Jews and wiping Israel off the map. It is in their charter. We must not allow debates surrounding disproportional response cloud that very real underlying truth.

If a man says that he is really a "woman" trapped in a man's body, what is he really? And if the same man has no sexual desire for men (as a trapped woman), but does have desire for women, is such a man a Lesbian?

Answer: Only in a fucked up world like ours where a gay scout master who makes sexual advances on a young boy is no longer considered a gay scout master, but really a pedophile scout master.

How convenient for us to be able to create categories for the varieties of sexual miscreants in our world. It allows us to see them all as misunderstood victims, or to quarantine those nasty categories that don't happen to fit our own miscreant sensibilities.

And I'm the one with the phobia? LOL..LOL..LOL

We are the World, We are the Sodomites. We are the miscreants who make a better day for you and me....unless you're a gay scout master who makes advances on boy scouts. Then you're right out!

Posted by TheOneBS at 2009-01-07 02:10 PM | Reply

did you forget this Pedophile?

false flags? not ever Israel...

UN RIGHTS CHIEF SUGGESTS MISSION TO ASSESS POSSIBLE WAR CRIMES IN GAZA CONFLICT

"Accountability must be ensured for violations of international law," she said, suggesting that the Council should consider authorizing a mission to assess violations committed by both sides in the conflict in order to establish the relevant facts and ensure accountability.

"I remind this Council that violations of international humanitarian law may constitute war crime for which individual criminal responsibility may be invoked," she added.

She also called on the parties to the conflict to allow the deployment of independent human rights monitors in both Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory to document any violations of international human rights and humanitarian law. She urged that so-called Special Procedures mandate holders be granted unrestricted access to Gaza and the West Bank.

Prolicker,
You're a fucking conspiracy nutcase. Seek help you jerkoff.

//Super duper gone now. S'rsly!

"Unless of course the roar of the crowd and the flicking of the bics convinces me I should give you, the little people, one more encore"

101,
I am so glad to see you stick up for a pedophile. Don't they say great minds think alike.

Sick, Just Sick. Wouldn't you know it that the reich winger would stick up for the pedophile.

I am shaking my head in total disbelief.

Now you to can go get a room, preferably away from a school or playground.

Prolicker,
Are you retarded? Where do you see a defense of a Pedo?
Do you pull all sorts of things out of your ass?

Seriously, I think you're a fucking nut.

Al Jazeera: Under what conditions will Hamas agree a ceasefire with Israel?

Abu Marzouq: We have three conditions for any peace initiative coming from any state.

First, the aggression of the Israelis should stop. All of the gates should be opened, including the gate of Rafah between the Gaza Strip and Egypt. Finally, Israel has to withdraw from the Gaza Strip. We are not saying we will stop firing rockets from the Gaza Strip to Israel - we are only talking about stopping the aggression from the Israelis against the civilian population in the Gaza Strip."

101,
Then why bother with me? Do you like licking my ass with nothing to say? I am not gay so please don't follow me.

Or

I will be fair - put words to your accusations or be relegated to nothingness

Hamas is ... sworn to ... wiping Israel off the map.

So?

You are saying it as if that is something bad?

Per Tosser: You are saying it as if that is something bad?

Well then just don't be surprised or outraged at the lack condemnation within the U.S. of any action taken by Israel to defend itself.
With the implicit concession of your post, all complaints of disproportionate response by Israel become null and void.

Prolicker,
Where is my defense of a Pedo you crackpot?

Prolicker,
Where is my defense of a Pedo you crackpot?

#219 | Posted by 101Chairborne

101Chairborne, Prolix is attempting to characterize me as such. He seems to think my posts against homosexuality, and specifically those ones which draw associations with other paraphilias like pederasty, are confessions by me. It is his attempt to slander and libel me. Rest assured, if he continues and anything comes of it, my attorney will subpeona the board administrator of this site for his info., whereupon he will be served papers for a law suit.

Per TheOneBS: Rest assured, if he continues and anything comes of it, my attorney will subpeona the board administrator of this site for his info., whereupon he will be served papers for a law suit.

Even by DR standards that has to be just about the whiniest post I have ever seen. Time for you to get out of the kitchen.

theonebs,
Don't be a pussy, just remind prolicker that he's batshit crazy.

"We are not saying we will stop firing rockets from the Gaza Strip to Israel -" Abou Marzouq

Don't ya' just love it? Our little leftist, Israel-hating friends think it'll be OK, that he doesn't mean it. Either that or they think Israel should just hunker down all the time and let them fire the rockets. WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE TO MAKE YOU IDIOTS BELIEVE THEM when they say they won't stop until israel is destroyed...no matter WHO has "talks" with them?

TheOne,
All I have to do is point to your post. Whether you mean them tongue in cheek matters not, they are your words.

Rest assured, if he continues and anything comes of it, my attorney will subpeona the board administrator of this site for his info., whereupon he will be served papers for a law suit.

#220 | Posted by TheOneBS

*Massive group eye-roll*

Some peoples children - and I am the nutjob.

I'll tell you what, call me a nut, a conspiracy theorist all you want I am obviously more comfortable in my skin then most and I will not be intimidated.

Well then just don't be surprised or outraged at the lack condemnation within the U.S.

I am not at all surprised at the lack of condemnation by a country that attacks others lying about "WMD WMD!"

Look.. these Juden... all through their history they have never settled down. Something bothers them about settling down.

So time is near that they move out of Palestine as well. They can go... wherever. It is in their nature to move from here to there and elsewhere.

Rockets fired into Isreal will keep getting better and more in number.

Isreal is trying to fire a cannon to kill mosquitoes.

Never works.

Hamas will continue firing lots of rockets. Hamas will continue using civilians as human shields.

Israel will continue to defend itself. Lots of innocent Palestinian civilians will continue to die.

Hamas, and her many supporters, will continue to have lots and lots of innocent blood on their hands.

Look.. these Juden... all through their history they have never settled down. Something bothers them about settling down.

Yea, something about death, assaults, and torture really makes you not want to stick around somewhere. =D

Moder8-
The IDF sure has offed a lot of "human shields". Those "human shields" don't seem to hold up too well. Of course, the "human shields" are "innocent Palestinian civilians", but it is Hamas with all of the blood on its hands....

?

Hamas will continue firing lots of rockets.

And Hamas will improve it's rockets.

They aren't all that destructive compared to real rockets... but when these start flying, the Juden hear air-raid sirens and have to take shelter. Normal life becomes Hell.

This will only increase until everyone... Hamas, Hizbollah, anyone who wants to, will fire a few rockets for good luck into the Jewish Paradise.

In the end.. there are a lot more of Isreal's neighbors... a LOT MORE... than there are Jews. There will be no place for them to hide anywhere in Isreal from a rocket that can come from any direction.

Good luck. LOL

Ignorant holocaust denying asshole-
You are just making us all warm and fuzzy converts to your hatred of "the Juden".

fuck off.

BetelG: Hamas desires greater Palestinian death counts. They obviously believes it accrues to their propagandistic benefit. If Hamas didn't want civilians being killed obviously they would not firing rockets from schools, hospitals and so forth. Further, they obviously would not be hiding in the middle of civilian neighborhoods. To in any way not lay the blame for the all the innocent blood shed wholly at the feet of Hamas is to deny a reality of their creation and sustenance.

Ignorant holocaust denying asshole-

Why are you angry?

You told me you weren't Jewish? LOL

making us all warm and fuzzy converts

What makes you think I expect anyone here to be converted to my point of view?

I am simply broadcasting a different channel.

Moder8-
re- To in any way not lay the blame for the all the innocent blood shed wholly at the feet of Hamas is to deny a reality of their creation and sustenance.

That's a simplistic position regarding US made cluster bombs launched from US made jets, while your TV tells you that every hospital and school blown apart is a hotbed of Hamas.

You believe what you are told to believe, without reflection.

Tosser-
You are as inhuman as those who cheer the deaths of children as necessary to "teach Hamas a lesson". You are insane, and you are PRECISELY like those you claim to abhor. You speak of Jews as if they were animals, and you claim to be on the side of the righteous in the same breath. You disgust me.

"And Hamas will improve it's rockets."

Exactly why Israel should not allow them to exist.

"In the end.. there are a lot more of Isreal's neighbors... a LOT MORE... than there are Jews. There will be no place for them to hide anywhere in Isreal from a rocket that can come from any direction."

If it should come to that, you might wanna get out your prayer rug, kneel down, face Mecca, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. No way is Israel gonna tolerate being attacked that way without resorting to making mushroom clouds. Israeli nuclear-armed missles will come from subs at sea, cruise missles, silos, and aircraft. No more Mecca, no more Pakistan, and alas, no more Tosser.

#236 | Posted by BetelG at 2009-01-09 03:18 PM

Thank you

Uh-oh

You "disgust" the Sanctimonious One.

Good call, appearing to stick up for a holocaust denier just so you can bash boyd...

Maybe you should read the thread before you jump in, stupid.

#240 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2009-01-09 03:22 PM

Me or Jak Se Mao?

That's so sweet, Gilligan.

Now give the Skipper a hug.

Me or Jak Se Mao?

Me, Kanrei.

Aikenandrite doesn't tolerate any disrespect towards Boyd.

And he'll let you know about it, right quick.

Tosser-
You seem to have found a friend in Jak se. Perhaps you can exchange photos and comment on how each others facial features are not at all like "the Juden". You can be pen pals, of a virulent sort.

A word to the wise, Tosser: Jak se has a big problem with "twat, gash, pussy" and, as an odd twist, "faggots", but I'm sure you do too.

A word to the wise, Tosser: Jak se has a big problem with "twat, gash, pussy" and, as an odd twist, "faggots"

Nonsense, Boyd.

You're one of my favorite people on this blog.

You speak of Jews as if they were animals

Jews are Mammals, are they not?

You, I am not certain about.

you claim to be

I have made no claims whatsoever.

No more Mecca, no more Pakistan, and alas, no more Tosser.

No more Isreal, no more Jew York, no more USA. Alas.

Son.. if you people could've done that, you would already have done it. LOL

And please do explain to me WHY would Isreal try and nuke Pakistan?

We are not at war. And it is no crime for me or anyone to cheer on Hamas or Hizbollah.

Pakistan has excellent relations with the US and we expect that to continue for the foreseeable future.

Hamas has announced that its al-Qassam grad rockets have hit a major Israeli airbase near Tel Aviv, which is believed to house nuclear arms.

Tel Nof, which is one of Israel's three main air bases, has been hit by Palestinian missiles, the al-Aqsa TV station, affiliated with Hamas, reported on Friday.

The air base is situated just 27 kilometers away from Tel Aviv on the outskirts of Rehovot, an Israeli city to the south of the capital.

Tel Nof is home top a number of Israeli fighter and helicopter squadrons as well as several special military units. Israel allegedly stores its nuclear weapons in and around the base.

The close distance between Tel Aviv and the base shows just how successful Hamas has been in launching its home-made rockets deeper into Israel than ever before.

The home-made Palestinian rockets spread widespread panic among Israelis.

Tel Aviv officials had initially said that they seek to stop rocket fire into Israel by attacking the Palestinian enclave.

The reported attack comes after Israel launched more deadly raids in Gaza on the 14 th day of its military operation in the coastal strip, raising the number of Palestinians killed to almost 800.

The Israeli raids came after the UN passed a binding resolution, calling for an immediate and durable cease-fire, the withdrawal of Israeli forces and the opening of all border crossings to the Gaza Strip.

Good good....

Spokesman for Hamas' military wing Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Abu Ubaidah, said his organization was still running full force and was capable of firing rockets at occupied territories for many months. Abu Ubaidah added that the organization has decided to include more Israeli communities in the range of fire.

Meanwhile, Palestinian resistance fighters in the Gaza Strip resumed rocket fire on the occupied territories on Friday with a barrage of at least 30 rockets since the morning hours on the 14th day of the Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people in Gaza.

Hamas has announced that its al-Qassam grad rockets have hit a major Israeli airbase near Tel Aviv, which is believed to house nuclear arms.
Tel Nof, which is one of Israel's three main air bases, has been hit by Palestinian missiles, the al-Aqsa TV station reported on Friday.

The air base is situated just 27 kilometers away from Tel Aviv on the outskirts of Rehovot, an Israeli city to the south of the capital. Tel Nof is home top a number of Israeli fighter and helicopter squadrons as well as several special military units. Israel allegedly stores its nuclear weapons in and around the base.

Rockets were fired at Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheba and the Sha'ar Hanegev and Eshkol regional council. At least seven rockets hit the western Negev, all of them striking cities previously considered out of the range of rocket fire.

Four Grad rockets exploded in open fields near Beersheba early Friday morning, causing no casualties or damages. Two more rockets struck the Ashkelon area just after and minutes later, at least one rocket hit Ashdod.

Another two rockets struck the Ashkelon area minutes after three more Grads struck near Beersheba. Also, two rockets hit an open area near the Sha'ar Hanegev regional council.

Another two rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council, wounding one Israeli settler and damaging number of buildings. About half an hour later, three more rockets struck the Negev city of Sderot. Earlier, a false alarm was sounded in some of Beersheba's neighborhoods as a result of a malfunction in the siren system.

At least 30 rockets struck the Negev on Thursday, leaving four settlers wounded and a number more suffering from shock. Two Israelis were seriously wounded from rockets which exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.

According to figures presented Thursday evening by the Israeli Shin Bet security service, more than 450 rockets have been fired at Israel since the start of the war on Gaza. Cities like Ashdod, Gdera and Beersheba found themselves under fire, joining Sderot, Ashkelon and other southern communities.

The blows suffered by the rocket's manufacturing and storage alignments, including the damage caused to the launching pads and launching cells, were heavy but have yet to destroy the entire alignment, the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported. Resistance rockets have killed four Israeli settlers and wounded dozens more since the war on Gaza began on December 27.

Canada Union May Ban Israeli Academics

An Ontario union may ban Israeli academics from teaching or speaking at the province's universities unless they condemn the current Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip, according to the Globe and Mail, sparking a fierce debate.

The newspaper says the Ontario arm of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) will introduce the proposal in a meeting next month.

It will call for "a ban on Israeli academics doing speaking, teaching or research work at Ontario universities" if they support Israel's military action.

The proposal was drafted after a Dec. 29 attack on an Islamic university in Gaza, which Israel claimed was connected to Hamas.

"Attacking an institution of learning is just beyond the pale," the Globe quoted CUPE Ontario president Sid Ryan as saying. "They deliberately targeted an institution of learning. That's what the Nazis did."

Comparing Israel to the Nazi regime, and potentially moving to censor Israeli academics, infuriated Bernie Farber, chief executive officer of the Canadian Jewish Congress.

He said the university may have been used by Hamas to store weapons, and it has not been confirmed either way.

"What happened at the university still is in question. Was it a place where arms are being stored?" he told the Globe. "Anyone who compares Jews and Nazis really enters into the dark realm of anti-Semitism. Mr. Ryan should be absolutely ashamed of himself."

More than 780 people, half of which are children and women, have been killed by Israeli fire since the onslaught began on Gaza on December 27, 3200 other people were injured. Israel bombed two UNRWA schools where civilians sought refuge, killing at least 45 people.

The United Nations also said that "according to several testimonies, on 4 January Israeli foot soldiers evacuated approximately 110 Palestinians into a single-residence house in Zeitun (half of whom were children) warning them to stay indoors. Twenty-four hours later, Israeli forces shelled the home repeatedly, killing approximately 30.

I am saying again...

Isreal was created through the use of home-made automatic weapons.

These rockets are home-made too.

History repeats yet again. History NEVER fails.

Israeli Troops "Stomping Heads" Of Palestinian Babies

A most shocking report against the Israeli Military Forces currently exterminating the Palestinian peoples in Gaza states that Norwegian doctors have turned over evidence to the United Nations showing that IDF Troops have stomped' the heads of at least 18 Arab babies causing immediate death due to the ejection of mass brain matter'.

One of these Arab babies brutally stomped to death [pictured 2nd photo left] was reported to be one-and-a-half years old and upon his skull being crushed so that his brain matter expelled, the Israeli soldier were reported to have screamed with delight' that this babies death was one less vermin we'll have to fight in the future'.

So senseless to the human mind have the Israeli atrocities against the Palestinian become that the United Nations Human Rights Council has scheduled an emergency meeting in yet another attempt to stop the mass death of women and children by Israeli forces, and the Vatican's justice and peace minister, Cardinal Renato Martino, has issued a warning to the World that Israel has turned Gaza into a Nazi concentration camp'.

London's Times News Service is further reporting that: "The International Committee of the Red Cross has accused the Israeli military of "unacceptable" conduct and breaching international humanitarian law after discovering four emaciated children living next to the corpses of their mothers and other adults in bomb-shattered houses in Gaza City.

The ICRC said that it had spent four days seeking Israeli guarantees of safe passage so that it could gain access to the houses in the badly damaged Zaytun neighbourhood of the city. It was finally allowed to send in a rescue team and four Palestine Red Crescent Society ambulances yesterday afternoon and said today that what they found was shocking.

In one house they discovered four small children, alive but too weak to stand, next to the bodies of their dead mothers. In all their were 12 dead bodies lying on mattresses.

In another house they found 15 survivors of the Israeli bombardment, several of them wounded, and in a third, three corpses. At that point they were ordered to leave by Israeli soldiers manning a post some 80 metres away, but they refused to do so."

They need to stomp some more mutt heads.

They need to stomp some more mutt heads.

DungBeetle got a hard on!!!

From the Jewish article.... exactly what I have been saying all along...

Read read! Very exciting! LOL

Let's face it, realistically the situation in Israel is rather grave. Two years ago it was Hezbollah rockets that pounded northern Israel. This week the Hamas proved beyond doubt that it is capable of serving the South of Israel with some cocktail of ballistic vengeance. Both in the case of the Hezbollah and the case of the Hamas, Israel was left with no military answer. It can no doubt kill civilians but it fails to stop the rocket barrage. The IDF lacks the means of protecting Israel unless covering Israel with a solid concrete roof is a viable solution. At the end of the day, they might be planning just that.

But this is far from the end of the story. In fact it is just the beginning. Every Middle East expert knows that Hamas can seize control of the West Bank within hours. In fact, PA and Fatah control in the West Bank is maintained by the IDF. Once Hamas takes the West Bank, the biggest Israeli population centre will be left to the mercy of Hamas. For those who fail to see, this would be the end of Jewish Israel.

It may happen later today, it may happen in three months or in five years, it isn't matter of if' but rather matter of when'. By that time, the whole of Israel will be within firing range of Hamas and Hezbollah, Israeli society will collapse, its economy will be ruined. The price of a detached villa in Northern Tel Aviv would equal a shed in Kiryat Shmone or Sderot. By the time a single rocket hits Tel Aviv, the Zionist dream will be over.

Israel: Hamas rocket arsenal doubles to 10,000

TEL AVIV The Israeli intelligence community has determined that the Hamas regime accumulated about 10,000 missiles and rockets.

Officials said Hamas has doubled its missile, mortar and rocket arsenal from about 5,000 to up to 10,000 since June 2008.

"Hamas can do to us today what Hizbullah did in the second Lebanon war," an official said, "fire hundreds of rockets and missiles throughout southern Israel."

The intelligence community has determined that Hamas has extended the range of its missiles to between 30 and 40 kilometers. Officials said this would enable Hamas to strike virtually every major city in southern Israel, including Beersheba.

Tosser, do you work on the same oil rig as the "All Knowing" Goatman?

Tosser, do you work on the same oil rig as the "All Knowing" Goatman?

Tosser, like you, would not be able to get hired to work on one.

Well, Hizbullah seems somewhat cowed after its "victory" in the 2006 conflict. I wonder what the outcome will be for Hamas that declares its intention to keep firing rockets.

I suppose Tosser that at the rate of some 30, or so, per day, it would be some 333 days before Hamas exhausted its inventory. How long do you think they'll last, and how many missiles do you think Hamas terrorists will discharge before they are "eliminated?"

By the way "precis man," you seem to be becoming prolix, which is contrary to your usual practice. Are you exhibiting distress over what's befalling your Islamic brethren in Gaza? They chose to live by the sword, and now they're dying by the sword, or its modern day figurative equivalent.

Keep on whistling, Tosser. Oh yes, the Islamics have proclaimed that they "love death" and want to use human shields to foster the deaths of their women and children, so as to protect their "fighters." Wow!

precis man

Fundo-man

and how many missiles do you think Hamas terrorists will discharge before they are "eliminated?"

I don't know... we shall have to wait and see.

I am willing to bet you can't eliminate home-made weapons. Maybe you can temporarily stop them but they always come back.

Are you exhibiting distress over what's befalling your Islamic brethren in Gaza?

Why should I be in distress? I am not a Fundo like yourself. To me this is part of history, is all.

Tosser, like you, would not be able to get hired to work on one.

Tosser, unlike you, likes to make his entrance by crawling under the razor-wire fence rather than coming in through the front gate.

Goatee... you have much to learn.

As anti-semitism increases...as the world aligns itself againsts Israel...as it becomes more precarious for this small country...and, as the great attack to destroy it comes, watch out! The nations of the world will suddenly be smashed!