so now it starts!

This is not an onion story!

Thanks for the tip, because that's exactly where I headed on seeing the headline.

"There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush."

Gawd, you gotta love it. The old bureaucratic infighter making damn sure people know who to blame for the monumental catastrophe these guys wrought.

i love him.

i wasn't happy, however, the day my husband got stuck behind his motorcade. supper was late...

i love him.
#3 | Posted by nanc

And he loves you, too. He's probably on his way over right now with a shotgun to show you just how much.

Maybe he can Biden some pointers on how to see a movie.

Cheney is a funny guy.

He tells someone (Mike Wallace?) about a time he was on a trip and in the hotel.

He was shaving and listening to Imus. Going on and on and they were talking about "pork chop".

He says he finally realized they were talking about him.

He started laughing.

-------

Many other folks would have cut their throat being called pork chop.

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.

Here come the flamers--

"The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well."

You sure did a great job emptying that trough of Kook-Aid.

Economy in the shitter. Uncle Sam's credit card maxed out.

Cheney's $250,000 in Halliburton stock options now worth $3 million.

It's quite clear who he served.

Warm and lovable...compared to a rabid pit bull with AIDS.

This murderous prick is also delusional. How many deaths are too many for this cretin?

..The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well. ..
#6 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-07 09:52 PM

Since the war was done so poorly, from inception, execution into contracting and subsequent profiteering how can you claim that Dick Cheney is a "great American"?

By just a few peoples accounts he's been a disaster. Why didn't he disclose whom visited his office? Why did he get away with erasing those records? What kind of power would do that?

Probably Cheney actually believes he is a nice, lovable guy, most sociopaths do not realize that they are crazy and dangerous. The man deserves to live the rest of his life in solitary confinement at a maximum security lock up. I sincerely hope a foreign government arrests and tries him for war crimes.

I wonder to what degree Cheney's medical episodes and the drugs he's taken affected his mind.

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY

You can't even argue this point on it's merits. Shame on you murphy. Try it.

How many children do you have serving in cheney's proud heritage in irag and afganistan? how many have lost thier life savings? How many have lost all confidence in the US gov't?

At one time I was thinking you had a brain, but now i see you are just a typical wingnut.

Al Capone actually believed he was a public benefactor up till the day he died. he believed this because he gave money to the church and to the community. It is also estimated that he killed 200+ people.

It's clear from this statement that Cheney indeed does have the biggest balls in this country. Awe inspiring, really.

"Al Capone actually believed he was a public benefactor up till the day he died. he believed this because he gave money to the church and to the community."

Tertiary syphilis may've played a part in that, and given the length of time Cheney's been fucking the American people his medical history bears some looking into.

**** There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush. *****

......"so if any war crimes were committed it was Bush...and only Bush.....well...maybe that Mexican prick too......but I wouldn't go out of my way to shoot him in the face....maybe in the ass, the way he ran from the inquiry..."ooohhh I can't rhhhecaaallll, oooohhh I'm such a pusssssyyy"...well maybe him.....and maybe Bush.....but not me..."
Lovable Dick

Oh come on! This has GOT to be a joke, right? Warm and LOVEABLE? Oh puhleeze!!!!! And he actually said that with a straight face? Or was he sneering and sniggering at the time? I bet Lucifer himself is coaching him via the direct line between Hell and Darth Cheney's office.

"Tertiary syphilis may've played a part in that, and given the length of time Cheney's been fucking the American people his medical history bears some looking into."

Mornin', Doc. You don't want to be confused with Ann Coulter for engaging in this "hate" speech, do you? Besides, I kinda admire the ol' guy. I've had many occasions to repeat his immortal words to Senator Leahy to my little friends here on the DR.

In defense of Dick... I bet he's probably a decent grandfather.

In defense of Dick... I bet he's probably a decent grandfather.

#21 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Link please? (j/k)

Some folks need to remember this lying scum bag was still pretending Al Quaeda had ties to Saddam as recently as three months ago. Cheney is a disgusting POS and a war criminal who is now trying to deflect the blame for his crimes on to the idiot from Texas.

Hey Danni...Boo!
-Dick Cheney

PS-Just kidding. I'm glad you and my daughter are dating.

Link please? (j/k)
#22 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

LOL, I knew there was going to be a "[citation needed]" comment.

Growing up sometimes my father would take me over to see my grandfather at his office (he was an accountant). I was pretty young but I still remember the way he acted. He yelled, and bossed people around, just an all around jerk looking back now. The kind of guy you really wouldn't want to work for. But with me he was always a really loving grandfather. He'd make me laugh, would tell me stories, taught me a lot about baseball including getting me over a fear of being hit by a pitch or of flyballs. Point is, yeah a lot of people probably saw him as a jerk, and they were probably right, but I saw him as a great grandfather and I was right too.

Maybe you remove Cheney from Washington and from politics and just in the family setting he is a "warm, lovable sort."

Uh, yeah, Dick.

When we call you "Darth," it's a mark of affection.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

#26 | Posted by GreenDad
That's what I was getting at.

*** but I saw him as a great grandfather and I was right too.
......#26 | Posted by GreenDad ****

......Stalin's daughter always said that he was a great father......

Ken Lay's favorite co-conspirator. Prior to assuming the Vice Presidency, he left his seat at Haliburton to help Lay enforce a Power Project in India. Doubled the Plant size and quadrupled electric rates. As a former US Defense Secretary, he was very useful in strong arming and/or bribing Indian Politicians. The deal was finally closed by threatening to cut off all future World Bank funding. (I wonder why Wolfowitz wanted that position).

But the locals, who could not afford the higher rates, rioted. Some were shot dead, including women and children. Funny thing they still couldn't afford Enron and the project went bust.

Since Clinton had provided Government guarantees for the project loans to be approved, taxpayers ate the project. In spite of all the special "considerations" by Bush & Cheney, Enron still went bust, because of similar shenanigans in the Dominican Republic and Nigeria.

One of the characteristics of serial killers is that their neighbors are always surprized, they thought he was a very nice person.

**** One of the characteristics of serial killers is that their neighbors are always surprized, they thought he was a very nice person.
......#30 | Posted by nutcase *****

......well that Jeffrey Dahmer was always bringing those tasty casserolls over....so what were supposed to think ??......

Didn't the U.S. fight a war to get rid of Hitler? And?

Y'know I think Brad Pitt as his character in Seven said it best when he asked the following question, and I think it should be asked to every single damn poster here on the Retort (don't bother asking me though, I already know the answer), as well as this lying summabitch politician:

"When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane?"

I question my sanity every time I log on to the retort.

I question my sanity every time I log on to the retort.
#34 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

You're not the only one, Hagbard.

This list of posts is what is wrong with the country and with the left.

You guys BELIEVED what was printed about Cheney - That he was "Darth Vader".

Instead he was a kind hearted logical moral person - which is the antithesis of most of the people that wrote about him.

He is a very bright and strong person so he might have seemed like Vader to wimps like Leahy.

Gitmo was overblown in the press - and each of you believed it because you are so biased against the US. You wanted to believe it.

You want to believe Bush was Satan incarnate - basically because he also was a good decent moral man.

Bush screwed up with thinking that the democratic party wants whats best for the US - when they only want what is best for the DEMS - and allowed all the spending to go through.

Where is all the whining I read here when the budget was slightly in the red BEFORE the DEMS took control? Now a TRILLION is OK?

You voted these guys in....and Bush will be gone. Instead we will have an ex-drug peddling communist in charge of an out of control congress.

You have nobody to blame but yourselves for believing the left and its trumped up image of Cheney and Bush. They did it to get power...now they have it we will all pay for it.

"I question my sanity every time I log on to the retort."

I question your sanity every time you log on too, Hag. :-)

So, Hag, you question your sanity, but you don't know you're out of your damned mind? Pity. Myself, I know I am, and use it to my advantage. I love making people scream in terror when I start with non sequiters.

/you have to be out of your damn mind to live here

"Where is all the whining I read here when the budget was slightly in the red BEFORE the DEMS took control? Now a TRILLION is OK?"

Slightly in the red???? Like 5 Trillion since he took office.

Your post was so idiotic I won't take time to refute all of the ridiculous statements, I almost wondered if it was a parody but then I noticed who posted it and realized you weren't trying to be funny....but god damn you were anyway!

I question your sanity every time you log on too, Hag. :-)
#37 | Posted by jestgettinalong

lol... fair enough. was waiting for someone to say that.

I AM NOT A CROOK!!!

So, Hag, you question your sanity, but you don't know you're out of your damned mind?
#38 | Posted by LetUsReason

I figure the fact that I question it is the only evidence I have that I'm still sane.

It may be insane to think this way however.

Hacks are hacks. We know who you are, and your opinions are dutifully archived in the circular file.

Full Of Shit Hoffer,

Can you read or count? What have the SCOTUS, dead Connolly installed greedfuckers done to our economy and why? What are the reported and real numbers today? The reported numbers are bad enough.

That said, Obama owes a debt to the same people that financed Bush. Its a very small world at the top of the pyramid scheme. For this reason he has incorporated much of the same kind of thinking into his cabinet that Bush and Clinton had, especially on the economic front.

There is no such thing as a free market. Until that issue is understood there will be no recovery. Who is going to loan us trillions more or does Obama (Bernanke) just intend to inflate us out of debt?

So if I ask real nicely, you'll let me pee on your head?

The man.....served his country well.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY

He sure did, if his country is Dubai or Iran!

Cheney has been at the center of 2 of America's worst Presidential administrations.

He should be forced to eat shit.

"served his country well"

Slight correction. He serviced his country.

Probably Cheney actually believes he is a nice, lovable guy, most sociopaths do not realize that they are crazy and dangerous. The man deserves to live the rest of his life in solitary confinement at a maximum security lock up. I sincerely hope a foreign government arrests and tries him for war crimes.

#12 | Posted by danni

He will surely have that coronary when Bubba walks into his sell and asks for some "sugar", or else!

Just like a vagina.

"..This whole notion that somehow I exceeded my authority here, was usurping his authority, is simply not true. It's an urban legend, never happened." - Dick Cheney

An urban legend?

From the man who appointed himself George W Bush's running mate, and told him what to do from that point on. Just another of his endearing, lovable kind of lies.

If only the whole thing had been an "urban legend", or any other kind of legend, we'd be in a better place now.

He was an evil bastard that when he finally dies he is assured a front row seat in hell. Many on this very blog will burn in hell too for their wicked ways. F all republicans.

"I'm actually a warm, lovable sort." says Dick Cheney. Not in politics nor at home. Ask his lesbian daughter whether or not he is lovable. She didn't turn out that way just because he cared soooo much. He is a scheming, conniving, controlling person in politics and in his home life.

If Cheney's soul weren't made of dogshit, he'd of stepped down after the first time a stupid policy he was pushing ended up killing American soldiers.

She didn't turn out that way just because he cared soooo much. He is a scheming, conniving, controlling person in politics and in his home life.

He had the power to turn his straight daughter into a lesbian? What about his wife? Hermaphrodite?

You don't earn the nickname "Darth Cheney" for being a warm, lovable sort.

#36 | Posted by foshaffer

......your post, from the Bizarro World dimension, has crossed into our dimension, and, by a freak of physics, was posted on our Drudge Retort, we send greetings to your people from the people of earth........

Cheney also insisted that his influence within the Bush administration was overstated throughout the past eight years. "The notion that somehow I was pulling strings or making presidential-level decisions. I was not," he said. "There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush. And that's the way we operated. This whole notion that somehow I exceeded my authority here, was usurping his authority, is simply not true. It's an urban legend, never happened."

They're all bailing out and distancing themselves from Bush as far away as they can get.

But we know who the warmongering Neocons were and who were the ones who signed the infamous PNAC document. It wasn't George W. Bush's signature on that list.

Crispee, how in the fuck do you know what kind of person Cheney is in his home life? 90% of the derogatory comments made here are pure speculation and opinion. None of you know what kind of guy Cheney is in person and your hatred for all things right disqualifies your statements because your ideas of those on the right are tainted by that hatred.

My guess is that Cheney is a great dad and grandfather and a quite nice person to be around. His kids say he was a great dad, but I suppose you lefties will just cast that off as they're lying. You are pathetic.

90% of the derogatory comments made here are pure speculation and opinion.

That means 10% are based on knowledge and facts. It is up to each person to decide for themselves with is the 90% and which is the 10%. For example, the rumor of his affair with a collie-100% true.

My guess is that Cheney is a great dad and grandfather and a quite nice person to be around. His kids say he was a great dad, but I suppose you lefties will just cast that off as they're lying. You are pathetic.

Posted by everlong

Like you said - nobody knows what he's like at home. That includes you so your guess is no better than anyone else's.

MY guess is that his kids say he was a great dad because they know the beatings they'd get later if they didn't.

Admitting war crimes on television to millions gives one a "bad rap", dick. Being a snarling jerk that says "so?" when confronted with the vast majority of america that diagrees with you...gives you a bad rap, dick. Acting imperiously, and lying constantly on meet the press gives you a bad rap, dick. You earned the derision and deserve more. Shooting a friend in the face and then having HIM apologize to YOU gives you a bad rap, dick.

"Go fuck yourself, mr. Cheney"

We need a daily Ann Coulter prize to match the Golden Shoe award for courage in journalism.

We recently got "No wonder the world loves the U.S., yet has a great disdain for its citizens."

And now Shotgun Cheney labels himself a pussycat. Riiiiiight! herm

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-07 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's the most idiotically partisan thing I've ever seen on this board.

Yes, this board, with the legion of grown men squealing like 10 year old girls at a boy band concert at the slightest mention of Obama. You just beat them all. You even made TonyRoma look look like an actual critically thinking person.

and if you don't believe him (or Foshaffer) well,

You can just go "FUCK yourself".

oh and if I offended anyone that is a direct quote from Dick Cheney.

"My guess is that Cheney is a great dad and grandfather and a quite nice person to be around. His kids say he was a great dad, but I suppose you lefties will just cast that off as they're lying. You are pathetic."

He could have been the greatest Dad in history but he is still a scum bag.

EVERLONG

...how in the fuck do you know what kind of person Cheney is in his home life? 90% of the derogatory comments made here are pure speculation and opinion. None of you know what kind of guy Cheney is in person and your hatred for all things right disqualifies your statements because your ideas of those on the right are tainted by that hatred.

You do have some valid points which are most likely true. Cheney is probably a nice and congenial guy in person and Cheney has served our country for 40 years. I also hear he has always been extremely loyal to his friends.

I also believe Cheney got his job as VP not so much because he wanted it just for himself, but because nominated himself as VP as a favor to Daddy Bush. Cheney and George H.W. Bush were close friends for 20 years and Daddy Bush, knowing how inept his son GWB was and still is, rightfully figured GWB needed all the help and advice he could get, so trusting Cheney, I believe George H.W. Bush probably had a lot to do with the decision to making Cheney VP.

From different articles I've read, Cheney was not always like he was when serving as VP under Bush. Many of Cheney's friends and collegues say he has changed, but not for the better. Many have said they no longer recognized the "old Cheney" they used to know.

Cheney himself in interviews has admitted he changed and he says it's been since 9-11 happened. As the saying goes, "These are the times that try men's souls" and who knows what a profound affect it had on Cheney as a person.

That said, though, you can't blame the majority of the American people for the deep resentment they harbor towards Cheney. He was the prime motivator for our going into the despised war in Iraq, his company made out handsomely from war profiteering, and the combined attitudes of both he and G.W. Bush was usually a condescending smirk and remark whenever addressing the real concerns had by many Americans.

I'm sure Cheney was a good husband (I never really heard any scandal about him) and a loving father. But we who do not know him personally can only judge him by what we have seen from the outside over these last 8 years and, to most of us, it appeared that Cheney just didn't give a damn about any of us. Sorry, but them's the facts.

No shit, Sanantonio? Except I didn't say 'he's controlling in politics and his home life'. That is a statement, mine was obviously an opinion which is why it was prefaced by the word guess.

Yeah, I want him as a friend...just as long as he doesn't shoot me in the face.
With friends like that.....

Danni, coming from you that means absolutely nothing. I have never once seen you write a single positive thing about anyone on the right. All you do all day long is spout left wing talking points and trash conservatives. I don't even know why you post any more. One only need see your name at the bottom and they will already know exactly what you said.

Has it ever occurred to any of you that 9/11 and the events of today and the over all effects of working in the White House may have taken great tolls on Cheney and Bush? Do you not even remotely think it's possible that they do care and maybe, just maybe, they have paid a great price for their positions?

You see them as evil power brokers and not as men. Men who can be shook and devastated by certain events. Maybe, just maybe, they aren't as all bad as you make them out to be.

Rasta, you are by far the most ignorant person I have had the displeasure of being in even indirect contact with. It is truly scary that people like you are actually walking around out there in the world today. The only people on this board who even pretend to like you are terrorist sympathizers. You need help.

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.
#6 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-07 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Wow

Rasta, you are by far the most ignorant person I have had the displeasure of being in even indirect contact with. It is truly scary that people like you are actually walking around out there in the world today. The only people on this board who even pretend to like you are terrorist sympathizers. You need help.

#73 | Posted by everlong

But of course you really mean that we don't know what Rasta is like in his personal life. Perhaps he's a great parent who really cares about things and is shaken and devastated by certain events. That maybe he isn't as bad as you make him out to be.

Right?

"Everlong" (one can only guess where THAT self-imposed monicker comes from) take Dannis to task for not writing good stuff about right-wingers, but as rightie Rummy said, you go to war with the army you have. If Ev has anything positive on W, Dick and the retiring mafia, tell us now. Sorry, their traumatization by 9/11 won't cut it for me. herm

Like you said - nobody knows what he's like at home. That includes you so your guess is no better than anyone else's.

He is indeed a very nice guy at home and a very nice person to be around. I won't speak on his political policies since opinions of those obviously vary from person to person, but on a personal level he is a very nice guy.

Herm, sorry your mind is in the gutter but my nickname has nothing to do with what you think it does. Ever heard of the Foo Fighters? I doubt it. Well, they have a song that used to be my favorite back when I first started using the internet. The name of the song is 'Everlong'

And sanantonio, Rasta puts his ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and opinions right out here for everyone to see every single day, so I can clearly make a judgment call on him as a person. However, I said nothing about him as a parent or possible parent. You keep trying to add in things that I didn't say or that have nothing to do with the current conversation. Maybe you should either back up and read the whole thing or just stay out of it.

And sanantonio, Rasta puts his ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and opinions right out here for everyone to see every single day, so I can clearly make a judgment call on him as a person.

#78 | Posted by everlong

No, you judged him as a person based on limited information he has revealed (or perhaps invented) in an even more limited arena.

You made a decision on who and what he is as a person, but all you really know about him is a persona he exhibits here on one small blog.

Tsk tsk.

Bullshit, san, and you know it. Are you trying to say that what we write here, whether real or made up doesn't directly correlate with what type of person we are. Well, there are plenty of psychiatrists and psychologists who would completely disagree with you.

And it hasn't been limited information. I have read all of his rantings about Israel and I have read about him sending people self destruct emails and logging into blogs as other users and trashing people. I have seen him write about believing anyone who is on the right is a corrupt person. If you're saying that doesn't give a good indication of what type of a person someone is....well, you're just flat wrong on this one.

"Well, there are plenty of psychiatrists and psychologists who would completely disagree with you."

Name three dozen. Oh, what the hell, it's after noon: name 23.

Okay, Doc. So, you want to get into a discussion about psychology and whether what a person writes on a blog has nothing to with who they are as a person? Is that what you want to discuss?

Oh, and not to mention actual ACTIONS that a person takes on blogs.

"Is that what you want to discuss?"

You wrote, "Well, there are plenty of psychiatrists and psychologists who would completely disagree. . ." Who said anything about a discussion? I'm not interested in a discussion. I asked you to name twenty-three. If you're having a hard time doing so, let's cut it down to eighteen.

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY

"Great American"?
"Patriot"?
"Served his country well"?
Are you talking about Dick "5 deferments" Cheney-who had "better things to do"-than to "serve his country" in Vietnam?

You really ARE delusional....

That's what I thought, Doc. I'm not going to name any. You are the one who interjected himself into the discussion and you did so in a way that attempted to discredit what I said. So, unless you want to discuss the point I made which is the point YOU had a problem with, then you can forget it. I don't dance for people just because they want me to, and I certainly do not have to name a single psychiatrist to make my argument. It is elementary which is why you probably don't get it.

"You are the one who interjected himself into the discussion and you did so in a way that attempted to discredit what I said."

And succeeded.

Game, set, match.

Bullshit, san, and you know it. Are you trying to say that what we write here, whether real or made up doesn't directly correlate with what type of person we are. Well, there are plenty of psychiatrists and psychologists who would completely disagree with you.

#80 | Posted by everlong

Nope. Bullshit on you. You criticized people for generalizing Cheney's personality to all phases of his life based on the limited aspect of him known.

You did the same thing. If it makes you uncomfortable to get called out on it, sorry.

Give me a frickin' break. If you succeeded so well then why won't you tell me how, psychologically, a person's writings and actions on a blog do not indicate what type of personality they have?

Anyway, I can already see that you're like other DR posters who come flying in with a demand for a link or a list and as soon as they don't get it they declare themselves some type of winner. Of what game I have no idea.

Tell me, Doc, just how is it that you feel like a winner of something when all you did was come in and say, "give me 23 names"? Do you not see how ludicrous that is?

Oh, and not to mention actual ACTIONS that a person takes on blogs.

#84 | Posted by everlong

Actions?

If you succeeded so well then why won't you tell me how, psychologically, a person's writings and actions on a blog do not indicate what type of personality they have?

#90 | Posted by everlong

Puhleeese. People can take on any persona they want to on an anonymous blog. Some do it just for shock value. Some are just assholes, and some are the real thing. You have no way of knowing, for the most part.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. Reason being is that Cheney didn't stand in front of America every day and spew out personal bullshit. Sure, he gave his opinions on policy but that's about it. You are trying to say that someone writing and actually doing things on a blog is the same as Cheney opining on policy.

All of this started when Crispee made a very clear statement. He said, "he is controlling in politics and his home life". Which is when I said there is no way he could know that. Now, there is a way that I can tell that Rasta is anti-semitic, a liar, and a trouble maker. Any facts known of Cheney are fair game as well and I said that indirectly.

"I'm actually a warm, lovable sort."

~Dick Cheney.

Better pretend to believe him or he'll shoot you in the face with a shotgun.

"There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush"

~Dickless Cheney

Can you say "plausible deniability"?

Face it, fuckhead, both you and Dumbya are War Criminals reviled around the world for yer amoral, greed-fueled, torture-happy antics.

If there was any justice in the world you'd be sitting in a cell right now trying to convince Bubba, yer 400 pd gym monkey cellmate that you really don't have a "pretty mouth".

Be Well.

Excuse me, sanantonio, Rasta has logged into blogs as other people here at the DR and slammed other people making a lot of trouble for those people. He has also sent self destruct emails and he evidently got someone in pretty big trouble with his family. Now, you're telling me that this is a persona and it's just for "shock value"?

The people he fucked over probably don't feel that way about it.

"Well, there are plenty of psychiatrists and psychologists who would completely disagree. . ."

Okay, bottom line, name a baker's dozen.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. Reason being is that Cheney didn't stand in front of America every day and spew out personal bullshit.

#93 | Posted by everlong

Now you're doing a beautiful tap dance. Split hairs as much as you like. The bottom line is this - you criticized someone else for generalizing based on limited information, then proceeded to do the same thing yourself. Period.

Excuse me, sanantonio, Rasta has logged into blogs as other people here at the DR and slammed other people making a lot of trouble for those people. He has also sent self destruct emails and he evidently got someone in pretty big trouble with his family. Now, you're telling me that this is a persona and it's just for "shock value"?

The people he fucked over probably don't feel that way about it.

#95 | Posted by everlong

I'm not defending Rasta. I've heard those accusations too. I've not seen proof of them, so I don't really know the facts. Do you? Maybe he's a jerk, maybe not. That's really beside the point, as I mentioned in my previous post.

You're still dodging.

Okay, great. So, you're saying that a person who does that shit and says the types of things he says is a good person. This is someone that you would trust with your kids. Well maybe not, but you get the point. Hey, if you don't have a problem with that type of behavior that's fine but I am well within my right to reserve judgment based on what little I do know about this person.

Again, I never said he was a bad parent or 'controlling at home'. I said he was ignorant, which is true, and that he needs help. Aand if he's doing that type of shit to people then he does. End of story.

Everlong

I'm not going to get in the middle of this but did want to make one comment -- aren't you doing, in at least a couple of respects, to Rastaninja what you say people did with Dick Cheney -- judging him without actual personal knowledge of what he is like?

I base this on your quote --

...I have read all of his rantings about Israel and I have read about him sending people self destruct emails and logging into blogs as other users and trashing people. I have seen him write about believing anyone who is on the right is a corrupt person....

Since you've only been on here since January of 2008, the only thing you can speak of knowing about Rasta personally -- because YOU yourself said you read his remarks -- would be his comments you said were "rantings about Israel" and his comments you said he made about "believing anyone on the right being a corrupt person" -- because YOU actually read his comments. The other things which were said about Rastaninja by others, well, you only know this about him because you read what others on here had to say.

As to the destruct emails and the logging onto blogs as someone else -- I'm not saying it didn't happen -- but you did not personally have it happen to you so as far as your concerned -- it's hearsay. You only read about it happening by what others on here wrote about it happening.

I guess my point is, isn't that the same as you saying people believe things about Cheney without knowing for sure -- only what they read about him?

Okay, great. So, you're saying that a person who does that shit and says the types of things he says is a good person.

#99 | Posted by everlong

Nope. I'm not commenting one way or the other about what type of person he is. You're dancing further and further from the point, but I'm going to keep pointing you right back at it.

CC spotted it right off the bat. So for the last time - the point is that you did exactly what you had just criticized someone else for doing. I can't make it any simpler than that.

I've seen the proof from his own words posted just yesterday and I have absolutely no reason to not believe those who have accused him of other things based on his history. I certainly would not believe him over them. Unfortunately the thread the link was on is gone but I believe Danforth can provide it for you.

I've seen the proof from his own words posted just yesterday and I have absolutely no reason to not believe those who have accused him of other things based on his history. I certainly would not believe him over them. Unfortunately the thread the link was on is gone but I believe Danforth can provide it for you.

#102 | Posted by everlong

All completely beside the point.

CC wasn't taking this whole conversation into account. Look, I know what you're trying to say. I know exactly the point you are trying to make but the two are not the same.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. I already wrote what Crispee said which started the whole thing. Like I said, I know that Rasta is a liar, a trouble maker, and he hates Jews. That's enough for me to make a judgment call on. Saying someone is controlling at home with never having been to their house is different. If you can't see that then there is no where else to go with it.

You're full of it, dude. Never mind. It just isn't worth it. And you are defending Rasta whether you think you are or not.

For once I am in complete agreement with EVerlong. Sorry SanANtonioRogue Everlong is spot on and Christine is trying to defend the indefensable. Kuddos Everlong.

Larry

Everlong - it is crystal clear. You criticized Crispee for making a generalization about Cheney based on limited information. Then you did the same thing.

You somehow believe there is a difference because you THINK you know who Rasta is. Maybe yes, maybe no.

The only conceptual difference is that one is someone YOU don't like, and one is someone someone else doesn't like.

And that... is hypocritical.

Thank you, Larry. Thank God someone else said something I was about to go out of mind with this.

For once I am in complete agreement with EVerlong. Sorry SanANtonioRogue Everlong is spot on and Christine is trying to defend the indefensable. Kuddos Everlong.

Larry

#106 | Posted by LarryMoh

Explain please Larry.

By the way Everlong - please note that I never said you were wrong to criticize the generalization about Cheney. That was a fair comment. The rub comes when you turn around and do the same thing to someone else. THAT is all I'm pointing out to you.

Oh, and I just read the post from CC. I don't know how I missed it. And January of '08 is a year. I'm sorry if that's not enough time for you but it is a year. As for what you said, I direct you to the posts above to see why you are not exactly right.

Explain please Larry.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-01-08 06:41 PM | Reply

Certainly SanAntonioRogue. Rastaninja is the one and only Jackass/Hardcore. He is the one who goes out of his way to place shit outside of the Drudge Retort and place it in the Drudge Retort. He also put a dudes full Home address upon the Cruel.com website. He is nothing more than a trouble maker liar. Everlong is spot on with Hos comments about Him. It's the truth. Oh and before I forget He is the same person who impersonated Danforth over at Nanc's blogsite and caused Her all kinds of grief.

Larry

Dude, you are engaging in some incredible semantics here and that's all you're doing. I just can't write it again. Besides, I'm about outta here for the day. Nice day at work man. I didn't have to do shit today but go round and round with you.

The man is a great American and patriot and served his country well.

#6 | Posted by MURPHY at 2009-01-07 09:52 PM |

He's a coward who avoided the draft and sent thousands to thier deaths for profit .

You really are quite stupid.

I was here. "rasta"(jackass) dragged out personal info on posters from other sites and brought it here.

He also bragged about doing so on 'cruel.com' only going farther with that...names and addresses and phone numbers. He was banned from both sites for this activity.

I have received self destruct emails from rex and probably jackass as well, though I can only say for sure that rex was involved.

Anyway...it's all very ancient history, and I'm surprised to see this so called "closed subject" popping up again and again.

Thanks for getting my back, Larry. I won't forget it.

Larry - keep in mind I'm not defending Rasta, per se. Again, I've heard those accusations. I have no personal knowledge if they are true or not. Maybe you do. Everlong certainly does not.

Please read my posts again. The point was neither about Cheney or Rasta, but the hypocrisy of slamming someone for making a generalization based on limited information, then turning around and doing the same thing.

Try to see the overarching point, rather than individuals here. You're usually one of the first ones to call BS on hypocrisy.

For You SanANtonioRogue Enjoy.

Back to dick cheney...

if you have to tell people you're a warm and lovable sort, you likely aren't.

Cheney can blow pandas and give out flowers in his personal life for all i care. As a public servant, he's been a mean ugly disgraceful shitstain that has tarnished our country and his office.

Jan 21st cant arrive soon enough.

Anyway...it's all very ancient history, and I'm surprised to see this so called "closed subject" popping up again and again.

#115 | Posted by Alexandrite

Alex - I have no reason to doubt you if you've had first hand knowledge. But again, the whole point really had nothing to do with "Rasta" per se, at all, and nobody was defending him.

Last post. It is not hypocritical if it is true about that person. And I certainly DO have knowledge about the incidents. Are you saying that Danforth and Alexandrite, and Larry are liars? If not then I have the knowledge through them. It is rather simple. And one last time. I called Rasta a liar, a trouble maker and a Jew hater all of which are documented and factual.

Sorry SanANtonioRogue Everlong just is speaking truth to power here. He isn't making gneralizations against RastaNinja aka Jackass. He is spot on the money.

Larry

Alex - I have no reason to doubt you if you've had first hand knowledge. But again, the whole point really had nothing to do with "Rasta" per se, at all, and nobody was defending him.

#120 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2009-01-08 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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If the information is spot on it's not a Generalization about someone.

Larry

Thanks for getting my back, Larry. I won't forget it.

#116 | Posted by everlong at 2009-01-08 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Anytime Everlong. Facts speak for themselves.

Larry

If the information is spot on it's not a Generalization about someone.

Larry

#123 | Posted by LarryMohr

Then if someone who has first hand knowledge of that information makes the generalization that carries some weight, and I wouldn't consider that hypocritical. The same cannot be said of someone who does so based on what they've heard through the grapevine.

Anyway...it's all very ancient history, and I'm surprised to see this so called "closed subject" popping up again and again.

#115 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2009-01-08 06:48 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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If He wasn't allowed to post here ever again it would have remained antient history. But we all know how THAT works out don't We.

Larry

"You really are quite stupid.

#114 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe"

Murphy is pretty goofy, that's for sure.

But congratulations to Everlong who managed to deflect and distract enough to make this about Rasta, which it never was, and not about the original point.

Let's just drop it, ok?

Jeff J nails it:

RastaJackass pulled Danforth's name out of a hat simply to cause trouble.

That's what he does - that's what he always does. He gets his jollies by trying to fuck with people on the net. It's really pathetic.

Let me put it to you all this way, here's a short list of people who truly despise the guy:

Danforth
LarryMohr
Alexandrite

Pinche Mao
Nanc

Does something about this list seem strange?

This is possibly the only thing the top of the list and the bottom of the list agree upon.

Some on this list have received self-destruct emails from this guy.

This guy has been caught blatantly lying on countless occasions.

The guy is an assclown. He thrives on any attention he gets. Best way to neutralize him is to ignore him.

#122 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-11-06 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Questions for all of you Cheney defenders:

Why didn't he disclose whom visited his office?

Why did he get away with erasing those records?

What kind of power would do that?

#21 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

You mean to his lesbian daughter's bastard test tube child?

Or would that be lesbian daughter's bastard test tube turkey baster bastard child?

HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????

EVERLONG

For once I am in complete agreement with EVerlong. Sorry SanANtonioRogue Everlong is spot on and Christine is trying to defend the indefensable. Kuddos Everlong.

Larry

Larry missed the point entirely. I thought I made is quite clear I was not defending anything Rastaninja did (or others say he did). I said that you -- and that includes me too -- have only hearsay about what he did by what others on here have said about it. That does not mean I do not believe them. And I totally sympathized with Danforth's anger about being impersonated on nanc's blog as I had the same thing done to me by someone on here (?) impersonate me over on Free Republic's blog and I was none too happy about it -- to put it mildly.

But you are MISSING THE POINT! I said clearly you had every right to the opinions you personally gained by you directly reading Rastaninja's own posts stating his views on different subjects (conservatives, Israel, etc.)

However, as to the other things he has done (exploding emails or whatever they are), you have no first hand information except what you have read about it being done on here written by other posters.

That does NOT mean those other people are not telling the truth. It merely means it is THIRD HAND INFO you are receiving. Do you understand the difference between "hearsay" and actually knowledge and opinions formed because you directly read what another person posted under his name?

The point SAR and I were making was only that the same analogy could be made when you got angry with people making a judgment about Cheney based on what they read written by others. (Although how we ended up using Cheney and Rastaninja in the same analogy gets more beyond belief by the mintue. LOL)

LARRY is wrong because he's jumping into this "lesson" thinking we are defending Rasta and bringing up all the old blog crap again. I have no more first hand knowledge about what Rasta did than you do and I've been here a lot longer. The point was not to play judge and jury on Rasta's past actions -- it was merely to make an analogy, the meaning of which I'm afraid went over your head.

And, LARRY, you know what we are trying to do and your full of crap to bring it in and try to use it for your own ammo in your blog fights with those guys. Leave me out of your personal little battles with them.

Later all - much later. I've nothing more to say on this subject.
No one, at least I wasn't, doing it to pick on you, Everlong.

Just don't give him a loaded gun

Tell me, Doc, just how is it that you feel like a winner of something when all you did was come in and say, "give me 23 names"? Do you not see how ludicrous that is?
#90 | Posted by everlong

Actually, I reduced it to a baker's dozen. And you still couldn't put any weight behind your claim by providing information you claimed to have. In other words, you bloviated, got caught, made a fool of yourself, and skeedaddled. What a chump.

You just can't be friends with Dickless-until you've had your face removed.(Less painful than having it shot off.........)

Cheney also insisted that his influence within the Bush administration was overstated throughout the past eight years. "The notion that somehow I was pulling strings or making presidential-level decisions. I was not," he said. "There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush. And that's the way we operated. This whole notion that somehow I exceeded my authority here, was usurping his authority, is simply not true. It's an urban legend, never happened."

Apparently Cheney's wasting no time in throwing GWB under the bus.

They're all bailing out and distancing themselves from Bush as far away as they can get.

But we know who the warmongering Neocons were and who were the ones who signed the infamous PNAC document. It wasn't George W. Bush's signature on that list.

Posted by CalifChris at 2009-01-08 03:02 PM |

Executive Order 13292 says differently. Cheney did a coup de tat upon Dubya and now is trying to quash that fact.

Larry

Also Mr.Cheney you'd look adorable on a spit,ever so slowly roasting over a nice fire! Boy I'd love to be at that BBQ!!!

Cheney: "I'm a warm, lovable sort.

#58 | Posted by CalifChris

CC-That poor reptile is freeze dried. It met it's end by biting "The Dick" Cheney. I have heard it was a terrible and long death.

I have no doubt Cheney has lots of Charm...

so did Hitler...

so did Uncle Joe

"I'm actually a warm, lovable sort."

and doggonit, people like me!

A pile of shit is warm and lovable...to poop flies.

No, Doc, I didn't just run off and hide. In fact, I wrote that I had to leave and even wrote last post. As for your claim, I don't know 12, 18, or 23 psychiatrists, but I do know that psychology tells us that there are all sorts of characteristics that help define who we are as people. You obviously don't think that Rasta's behavior helps define who he is as a person. That's your ignorance and that makes you the chump.