Looks like Al Qaeda was simply looking for a reason to keep blaming the US. I don't hold Obama to blame for keeping quiet and actually applaud him for keeping his peace before his inauguration.

The fact that Al Qaeda would blame Obama and so blame the US on such tenuous grounds will only shock those that thought Obama would be the peacemaker that would heal everything. Most conservatives already knew that Al Qaeda's beef with America was never about Bush at any time. Bush just made a handy excuse... and now they will use Obama as another one. The arguments that Obama's change in policy would start building good will and reduce the hate against America always rang false to those that knew better.

It doesn't make a lot of since because the far left sides with Hamas anyway

I hope B.O. realizes there is no sense dealing with a fucking animal like Ayman al-Zawahiri, and sends him to hell.

Now everything will be Obama's fault instead of bush, this coming from the Palestinian leaders who are a group of ignorant pussies still hiding under the dresses of women and behind their own children how pathetic and stupid. Palestinian's still can not grasp the simple concept of don't shoot at them and they will not RETURN FIRE obviously Palestinian has to be synonymous with dumb asses. The women and children pay the price as the so called fighters hide behind them and use them for propaganda and to shield themselves. Palestinians are nothing more than a group of cowardly pussies...

Al-Zawahiri is merely channeling Rush Limbaugh.

WISGOD

Obama wants to kill Zawahiri and Bin Laden wherever they're located. Bin Laden may already be dead, but Zawahiri is still kicking. All it's gonna take is someone in the WH with the will to do it.

WISGOD

Obama wants to kill Zawahiri and Bin Laden wherever they're located. Bin Laden may already be dead, but Zawahiri is still kicking. All it's gonna take is someone in the WH with the will to do it.

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Easier said, than done. But I wish him all the luck in the world.

Wow even Al Qaeda is getting into the blame it on Obama before he even gets into office. Al Qaeda must be funded buy Republicans.

neondeon

al qaeda is a conservative group
just like republicans

and osama has one of their biggest payrolls.

and a taxpayer,

dude al qaeda is not palestinian in any way
they use palestine as an excuse to spread their own political ideology where we move back to the middle ages.

so blame the palestinians for what zawahiri said
you just like the fool that you are

Does this mean Al queda ranks Obama slightly less favorable than Bush? Wow, Bush's rating improved by a sliver.

so blame the palestinians for what zawahiri said
you just like the fool that you are

#9 | Posted by klifferd

Where did he blame that tribe?

Al Queda is not a conservative group. Al Queda all about radical change. they want to convert the world to Islam. If they were conservative they would be making money off selling oil to America like the Saudis have been for the last 50 years

"The arguments that Obama's change in policy would start building good will..."

Well, as long as the jury gave him a fair hearing and didn't pass judgement, say, before he took his first breath as President.

and a taxpayer,
dude al qaeda is not palestinian in any way
they use palestine as an excuse to spread their own political ideology where we move back to the middle ages.
so blame the palestinians for what zawahiri said
you just like the FOOL THAT YOU ARE
#9 | Posted by klifferd

Klifford try reading the article it really does help, the Palestinians are specifically brought up by Ayman al-Zawahiri in the complaint that everything is Obama's fault. Then if you bothered to read further you would educate yourself and discover the Palestinians are referenced as "your brothers and sisters" by Ayman al-Zawahiri yea I can see where someone like you can not see the connection. In closing let me ask you how long did you piss on the toilet seat before you learned to lift it up first stupid ass...

Oh I almost forgot FOOL you are truly the biggest dumbass here at the DR...

wisgod

"Now everything will be Obama's fault instead of bush, this coming from the Palestinian leaders who are a group "

there is no prefix to this statement by him

thats how it starts off

he probably didn't even read the article

just started spewing his mouth off

"Oh I almost forgot FOOL you are truly the biggest dumbass here at the DR..."

hahahaha

only making yerself the fool i'm afraid

being brought up by zawahiri?

so because he brings it up and uses that as an excuse for his own goals in iraq, afghanistan and everywhere else

that means he leads the palestinians?

how do you get that?

there is no logic in that statement

once again prooving that you are numero uno dumbass

This may be the first time in 8 years the pant-pissers will disagree with Al Quaeda.

"Palestinians are nothing more than a group of cowardly pussies"

you know how dumb that makes you sound

like super dumb

and it actually makes you look like a coward
cause you talk so big behind your computer keyboard

you trying to avoid the real truth... you are a pussy

aww.. do you need a shrink for your feelings of male inadequacy

poor you

The real difference is... When things like this came out blaming Bush, all the wacos jumped on the band wagon and said "our position in the world sucks because of Bush". Now when they say it about Obama, same wacos try to say they are just like repubs blaming Obama. Can't have it both ways. People with a brain will see it for what it is and always has been. An excuse to blame America and promote their agenda. Real problem for many on this site, is that blame the President first is no longer in line with their agenda. It was not Bush's fault then, and it is not Obama's fault now.

that means he leads the palestinians?

That is out of context and you know it of course he is not the leader of the Palestinians but he does reference them and utilizes the Palestinian people and their plight as part of his own agenda try not to be so ignorant and I will try to make my posts easier for you to understand...

actually

al qaeda has always been the enemy

bush made not only afghanistan their home

but now they live out of iraq too

thats why we blame bush
cause he's a moron and fucked up internationally and domestically

unfortunately for you conservative idiots, the only people he didn't disappoint is the africans who you seem to hate.

you should try to make your points make logical sense next time but you're post doesnt' mention al qaeda, it mentions palestinians on a blog about obama vs al qaeda...

man up to your own idiocy

AQ is a lot more afraid of Obama than they are of Bush. Obama said that he would continue to go after them, and nothing that he has said so far indicates that he won't. Unlike Bush, however, he may not piss people off every time he opens his mouth and contribute to growing AQ forces.

Even a slight change for the better is bad for AQ. They have largely been defeated in Indonesia and Philipines, the Iraqis have decided to start driving them out, and the Afghans don't like them. If Obama can change America's image with Muslims by even a small amount it will bad for AQs recruiting.

"It was not Bush's fault then...."

"It"? I guess that depends on the meaning of "It".

Kilfferd owns the argument both on fact and logic.

Freechoice ignores 8 years of Bush non-involvement and the result.

Such apologists for the RNC/GOP. Such garbage. How uncomfortable that the same Republican tactics, blaming Obama before he's even sworn in, are used by al-Zawahiri.

"Blame president first is no longer their agenda...."

The time is coming when Obama will make a mistake as president, a role Bush has in many ways ceded him already.

When Bush was really fucking up, it was the same "You're blaming Bush first" mantra. But the man was really fucking up. Sorry.

"Palestinians are nothing more than a group of cowardly pussies"
you know how dumb that makes you sound
like super dumb
and it actually makes you look like a coward
cause you talk so big behind your computer keyboard
you trying to avoid the real truth... you are a pussy
aww.. do you need a shrink for your feelings of male inadequacy
poor you
#18 | Posted by klifferd

Klifford tell me HamAss does not fire rockets mortars and missiles over IDF positions and purposely target innocent civilians, also tell me HamAss does not fire these weapons on purpose from behind their own women and children making their position a target, also tell me HamAss does not use mosques to hide these very same weapons, then tell me HamAss is not hiding in the hospitals of Gaza dressed as doctors. I not only stand by my remark I include you in it as being a cowardly pussy...

Klifford dude Ata is kicking your ass you really are a dumb fuck.

Islam is the enemy everywhere it exists in the world.

The Egytian Doctor is just another nutty fruitcake who needs to be put out of his misery.

So-called Hamas fighters are nothing but cowards hiding behind their women and children.

There will soon be a cease fire followed by a truce, followed by peace talks, followed by another war.

inFinite Wisdom Thom

"inFinite"

That should be two words.

Klifford the bottom line is Obama will be to blame instead of Bush no matter what happens and Ayman al-Zawahiri is bringing the Palestinians in as an example. Defend the Palestinians all you want it is wrong to blame Obama, I am sorry your little mind is so stuck on making HamAss look like the good guys get a grip and try to stay on topic...

The real difference is... When things like this came out blaming Bush, all the wacos jumped on the band wagon and said "our position in the world sucks because of Bush". Now when they say it about Obama, same wacos try to say they are just like repubs blaming Obama. Can't have it both ways. People with a brain will see it for what it is and always has been. An excuse to blame America and promote their agenda. Real problem for many on this site, is that blame the President first is no longer in line with their agenda. It was not Bush's fault then, and it is not Obama's fault now.

#19 | Posted by freechoice
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Absolutely true!!!! Honestly, when is the left going to get smart enough to understand that it does not matter which empty suit fills the white house (D OR R), it's always going to be the president's fault. It's sort of like arguing with a woman, it's always the man's fault and they shoulder absolutely none of the blame. Once you understand that, you can move on to the next stage of reality. These people are psychotic!

Lonnie

We should give these nutjobs what they want. Pack up all of our shit and get out. Get off oil, cut all ties to them and isolate them. They would go from the 8th century to sometime B.C.

Then the moderate Muslims over there would kill these fucks off for us for making their crappy existence worse.

Common sense and logic doesn't work in the group known as Al Quaeda. It's not Bush's fault and it's not Obama's fault. Even though I'm not too crazy about Obama, I'm willing to say it's not his fault.

Lonnie

Klifford dude Ata is kicking your ass you really are a dumb fuck.
#28 | Posted by Razor

We went through the same shit the other day only today he does not understand this thread is about Ayman al-Zawahiri playing the blame game with Obama instead of Bush...

This is why Al Quaeda so easily manipulated the GOP into a protracted war. They knew that with a little taunting we would go in like a bunch of cowboys blasting everything in site.

Hopefully, Obama will be a little more level head and realizes that they only way to defeat Al Quaeda is to get rid of their propaganda ammunition.

Al Qaeda also knew they could cause us to spend money like there's no end.

Mission accomplished!

(Where are Bin Laden and Zawahiri?)

Just more evidence that Islamist WingNuts and Christian Wingnuts share another deranged commonality.

How can that be? We all know Bush is to blame.

I guess the guy's an idiot.

They knew that with a little taunting we would go in like a bunch of cowboys blasting everything in site.

Posted by richardspirit

And I'll bet they where taunting right up until the plane struck the Tower.

Finally, something for the Rethuglicans to sink their teeth into.

Ahhhh the echos you hear when the winds change.

Palestinians are nothing more than a group of cowardly pussies"
you know how dumb that makes you sound
like super dumb

so IM guessing that you missed the report yesterday that even the abbas government admitted that hamas fired first in an attack the other day

FROM A UN SCHOOL........

so tell me THATS not the act of cowards

so IM guessing that you missed the report yesterday that even the abbas government admitted that hamas fired first in an attack the other day

#44 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2009-01-07 11:15 AM | Reply

I missed that report as well. You wouldn't mind finding it for us, would you?

If they were conservative they would be making money off selling oil to America like the Saudis have been for the last 50 years

#12 | Posted by timbci

Given that the sole source of money in saudistan has been oil sales and saudistan is al queda's (as well as the Iraqi sunni jihadists and wahabiist imams)biggest backer, Tim, they've been doing that since the Russian invasion of afghanistan.

And given al queda's moral viewpoint on gays, women and abortion and guns, they are just one messiah short of a Republican's wet dream.

'Palestinians are nothing more than a group of cowardly pussies"'

you know how dumb that makes you sound
like super dumb

"so IM guessing that you missed the report yesterday that even the abbas government admitted that hamas fired first in an attack the other day
FROM A UN SCHOOL........
so tell me THATS not the act of cowards"

Why can't you people (mostly on the right) keep the players straight?
You equate Palestinians with Hamas, and then with Al Qaeda.
You ignore the entire West Bank. You lump everyone together so your hate and misconceptions can remain intact. Too many on the left do the same thing in their zeal to support one side over another.

Klifferd's been accurate and precise.

So, are the Irish filling the ranks of Hamas?

101...........it was a blurb I heard on the radio yesterday and I have been looking for links to it but I cant find it. so it might not have been correct.
so I guess I should have said allegedly but I know what I heard and it even said that the palestinian government has verified that I am correct in both cases.
that hamas fired first and it was from a un school
still looking for link to that..........

and let me ask all of you
surely you wont be surprized if it comes to be true......

no yav........this report that I heard just the tailend of did seperate the abbas government from hamas because hamas would have never admitted that

IF the report is found to be true

You have to admit it's pretty hard to separate players when they commit the same terrorist acts.

The PLO was doing suicide bombers. Now with the demise of Arafat--the PA has become somewhat moderate.

Are members of Hamas Arabs, Shiite or Palestinian?

Are member of Hezbollah Arabs, Shiite or Lebonese?

AQ is mainly Sunni Arabs--right?

The West Bank is doing quite well--unlike Gaza who is under the control of Hamas.

and before you 'punks' attack remember I said that it was what I heard and I KNOW THAT I HEARD it correctly....that hamas opened fire first.
now if the report itself is not true, then I take no blame for the incorrectness
but again....it wouldnt acually surpise any of you, would it????

And Hamas regularly uses the UN to disguise itself.

They bomb from schools and hospitals and use UN ambulances to transport the killers from one location to another within Gaza.

I don't know who makes this nonsense up but you can bet it was some phony journalist and not any one even closely related to al queda. Obama hasn't even had a chance to screw things up yet. Last time I checked Bush was still in charge here. Only a dumb ass republican would publish this kind of crap in the first place. It's exactly the kind of press the black hole of ignorance Matt Drudge salivates for like Pavlov's dog.

bl2, you know if it makes Hamas look bad it has been scrubbed from the records by now.

When Bush was really fucking up, it was the same "You're blaming Bush first" mantra. But the man was really fucking up. Sorry.

#26 | Posted by Zed
Did not say he was not messing up, but back to the original statement of it being Obama's fault. It just shows that no mater how bad Bush messed up or how great he did, he had no control over the situation (unles he nuked them) and theirfor he was not the issue. It is the extreamist that terroize. It is with them, and no one else. Nothing Obama will do will change that. The only thing that has changed is how the wacos on sites like this react to the statements...

bl2, you know if it makes Hamas look bad it has been scrubbed from the records by now.

#55 | Posted by Sniper at

thats what I was thinking which brings me to a related point
I heard it on talk radio and when obama declared talk radio....at least conservative radio as 'hate speech' then things like that will be even harder to find out about.

"(Bush) had no control over the situation"

Really? Who decided to invade and occupy Iraq?

when he DECLARES>.....not past tense...........shit....stupid keyboard

i completely understand hamas is the bad guy
hamas are a bunch of fucktards... but others on this page (aka ataxpayer) can continue to say i am siding with them if that makes them feel better. i guess i can understand how lies will make one sleep at night with the amount of obvious disdain for his own masculinity he has.

but blt... mr ataxpayer didn't use the word hamas

he used the word palestinians

yes hamas is made up of palestinians

but being palestinian doesn't make you hamas

i don't think ataxpayer has the vision to realize the acuteness of his statements

al qaeda, hamas, zawahir, they all do not equal "palestinians"

therefor since ataxpayer continues to be a cowardly lion... the pussy moniker will stand with him

Klifferd many on this board want Muslims dead. they cheer when Muslims die. So is it any surprise some Muslims want Christians and Jews dead?

klifferd..

I think you are misunderstanding my commment as to who this report said that hamas opened fire first
and IM not sure that matters anyway since it is known even from the thread about this incident that they were in a school and it was a un school.......
that seems to be a fact, so I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say

I don know that I am once again LATE for an appointment
THANKS TO YOU PUNKS ......LOL

have a great day

Really? Who decided to invade and occupy Iraq?

#58 | Posted by Danforth
Yea, that pissed them off they started to blow things up around the world and started planning 9/11 after that. Oh damn, sorry I forgot they did that to begin with. I am no Bush fan, I really think he did a poor job in a lot of ways. Just admit you were giddy when they said it about Bush, and agreed, and now when it is about Obama it makes you crawl out of your so called skin.

And the Love of the "religion of peace" show itselves in the streets of our own cities.

rasta..
honestly i don't understand why anyone wants any other entire group dead

its soooo simple minded

People need someone to blame for their situation, it can never be their fault and when you situation is as bad as the Palestinians and muslims, your blame is so intense, it becomes an ill-guided hatred toward whomever you have been told is your tormentor..Just look at our own country, look at how the "special victims units" we call minorities have to blame someone no matter what happens..

don't think ataxpayer has the vision to realize the acuteness of his statements
al qaeda, hamas, zawahir, they all do not equal "palestinians"
therefor since ataxpayer continues to be a cowardly lion... the pussy moniker will stand with him

**************

Klifford you're a pathetic idiot try reading the article it really does help, the Palestinians are specifically brought up by Ayman al-Zawahiri in the complaint that everything is Obama's fault. Then if you bothered to read further you would educate yourself and discover the Palestinians are referenced as "your brothers and sisters" by Ayman al-Zawahiri yea I can see where someone like you can not see the connection. In closing let me ask you how long did you piss on the toilet seat before you learned to lift it up first stupid ass... **************

There klifford maybe you missed it the first time let me guess you're real name is Muhammad...

but blt... mr ataxpayer didn't use the word hamas

bwahhhhhh lol klifford you are dense as hell

#60 | Posted by klifferd
Klifford the bottom line is Obama will be to blame instead of Bush no matter what happens and Ayman al-Zawahiri is bringing the Palestinians in as an example. Defend the Palestinians all you want it is wrong to blame Obama, I am sorry your little mind is so stuck on making HamAss look like the good guys get a grip and try to stay on topic...

#31 | Posted by ATaxpayer

sorry taxpayer
my name is not mohammed

nice try

you needed 15 posts to clarify your statement

yer first post is still stupid
just like you

and assuming my name is just more evidence of your growing stupidity

BWAHHHHHHHHHHH lol lol lol lol lol lol

I love when Islamic militants refer to the Palestinians as their "brothers".

The pathetic truth is that other Middle Easterners do almost nothing to help the Palestinians. They love to complain about the situation but that's about it.

Actions speak louder than words and the Palestinians' "brothers" could give a shit about them.

sully

there you go

agreed

al qaeda
the arab country leaders
hamas

all of them hurt the palestinians more then help

but blt... mr ataxpayer didn't use the word hamas

#60 | Posted by klifferd

Bwahhhhhh lol klifford you are still dense as hell, I can see you agreed with sully as do I specifically "The pathetic truth is that other Middle Easterners do almost nothing to help the Palestinians. They love to complain about the situation but that's about it."

OBAMA!!!

Don't swing in the dirt.

All are throwing ground balls until Jan 20.

I can smell Al Queda (Bush funded terrorists) fear from here. I hope Al Queda (Bush funded terrorists) don't get a nights sleep. Quiver in your heart and mind and know your time is almost up (1/20/09) as Bush cannot help you anymore.

"Yea, that pissed them off they started to blow things up around the world and started planning 9/11 after that. Oh damn, sorry I forgot they did that to begin with."

What kind of a moron are you? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

"...now when it is about Obama it makes you crawl out of your so called skin."

All I'm going to admit is a President should at least have drawn one breath in the Oval Office before idiots start condemning him. Obama's fault?!? The President makes foreign policy decisions, and that guy's name is Bush.

Yea, that pissed them off they started to blow things up around the world and started planning 9/11 after that. Oh damn, sorry I forgot they did that to begin with."

What kind of a moron are you? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

"...now when it is about Obama it makes you crawl out of your so called skin."

All I'm going to admit is a President should at least have drawn one breath in the Oval Office before idiots start condemning him. Obama's fault?!? The President makes foreign policy decisions, and that guy's name is Bush.

#77 | Posted by Danforth
You change your damn story more than a woman jonesing for her valium. The story is about Al Qaeda. They have everything to do with 9/11, your dumb ass brought in Iraq. I was just pointing out thatIraq has nothing to do with weather or not they hate us and want to hurt us and blame us for everything. Him blaming a POTUS for something has nothing to do with Iraq, or who the POTUS is. The real story is how you react one way when it is Bush and another when it is Obama. Just admit that you take a different stance when it is said about Obama instead of Bush, and this thread can be over.

Ringmaster, any time a new tape comes out from one of those A-holes it gets reported on by every single news organization. It is not exclusive to Drudge or righties. Also, I don't know why you're saying someone 'made it up'. It was a tape released by Al Qaeda.

Sorry, Rasta, there is a big difference. Christians are not hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. They are not suicide bombing shops, cafes, and hotels. Christians did not set out wanting Muslims to die just because they are Muslim. Whereas, Muslims want Christians dead because they are not Muslim.

I can't believe you even tried to make that comparison. Well, considering the source, yes I can.

"The story is about Al Qaeda. They have everything to do with 9/11"

Your #63 specifically answered my statement regarding invading and occupying Iraq. AQI never existed before that. Re-read the salient posts, and this time, try some comprehension.

I was reviewing the financial times today, and they had a whole article on why Israel was wrong. They didn't try everything else first, they were using dispraportionate force, etc. NOWHERE in the article did it mention that Hamas's sworn goal is destruction of Israel, nor that they won't stop sending missiles over whenever possible.

I have no idea how this can be settled. But Hamas, AQ, and Iran seem much more concerned with blaming everyone else for their problems, and accept no responsibility whatsoever for their own self inflicted wounds.

Blame others, attack others, act like they have divine right, refuse to negotiate...

Al-Zawahiri is merely channeling Rush Limbaugh.

#5 | Posted by Zed

FF fer Zed.

Actually, between desiring theocracy, having disdain for women rights, loving violence and stOOpid assed wingnuttery in general the AQ and the Rtard extremists have so much in common that they really ought come together to form their own bowling league or sommat.

The AQ are prolly just nervous cos after the departure of Dumbya, (the guy who let the Bin Ladens fly home on 9/12 while grounding planes with organs for emergency transplants for Americans and who let Osama himself go scot free at Tora Bora), America'll finally have someone in power who actually wants to crush them like a bug hitting the windshield of an F1 racecar at top speed.

Be Well.

Were the rockets fired at Israel (over the previous few months) part of an orchestrated attack by Hamas? Is there good evidence to support such a scenario?

Or were they being launched by thugs trying to start some shit (like a storm of Israeli rocket hail)?

I need to look into this more before I can discern exactly what the hell is going on.

A lot of the pro-Israel reporting seems to be the usual knee-jerk anti-Muslim conservative spin.

And there are liberals who oppose all forms of war, even if the enemy's emptied his clip and is in the act of reloading.

6,000 rockets since they gave up Gaza.

The real difference is... When things like this came out blaming Bush, all the wacos jumped on the band wagon and said "our position in the world sucks because of Bush". Now when they say it about Obama, same wacos try to say they are just like repubs blaming Obama. Can't have it both ways.

#19 | Posted by freechoice at 2009-01-07 09:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well, there is ONE LITTLE DIFFERENCE!

Bush was president and Obama, well....not so much, but keep pretending!

..And there are liberals who oppose all forms of war, even if the enemy's emptied his clip and is in the act of reloading.
#84 | Posted by Scrumplet at 2009-01-07 08:40 PM

This entire Palestine/Israel scenario has been groomed to marginalize any actual process towards peace. President Obama probably won't sever US funding of Israel, but we can be certain there will be better investigations and transparency.

bl2, you know if it makes Hamas look bad it has been scrubbed from the records by now.

#55 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-01-07 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

More of that 'liberal media' conspiracy? Funny stuff!

*** Ayman al-Zawahiri blamed President-elect Obama for the military attacks on Gaza ****

......I didn't know that al-Zawahiri was a Republican ......

"The fact that Al Qaeda would blame Obama and so blame the US on such tenuous grounds will only shock those that thought Obama would be the peacemaker that would heal everything. Most conservatives already knew that Al Qaeda's beef with America was never about Bush at any time. Bush just made a handy excuse... and now they will use Obama as another one. The arguments that Obama's change in policy would start building good will and reduce the hate against America always rang false to those that knew better"

Never, ever, have I heard it said better! This bears repeating over & over again. It is America they hate, not any one president.

"......I didn't know that al-Zawahiri was a Republican ......"

This just illustrates how the left will politicize anything at anytime & truth & common sense be damned. A non-white, 1/2 Kenyan brother with a Muslim heritage can't get a break from these murdering fucks & you still don't get it. This is the worst & most dangerous kind of thinking from either side!

Is Rush Limbaugh doing PR for Al Qaeda?

Is Rush Limbaugh doing PR for Al Qaeda?

#93 | Posted by tiger150
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Hmmmm I thought Chris Matthews was doing that?

Lonnie