A bullet is cheap and non pc, the electric chair was not comfortable and the lethal injection could cause an infection.

Maybe violent crime is not rising? Huh?

Maybe Americans are sick and tired of being linked to places like Iran Saudi Arabia China You know Bastions of Capital Punishment.

Larry

GW executed all the bad guys when he was Governor of Texas!

FACT!

"Maybe Americans are sick and tired of being linked to places like Iran Saudi Arabia China You know Bastions of Capital Punishment."

America is only linked to places like that by lefty nutcases. Anyone with a brain knows there is a difference.

America is only linked to places like that by lefty nutcases. Anyone with a brain knows there is a difference.

Posted by JOE at 2009-01-05 10:41 PM | Reply

Last time I checked capital punishment was Capital punishment. Dead is dead.

Larry

GW executed all the bad guys when he was Governor of Texas!

FACT!

~Bani

How'd he fergit to fry himself then?

/And NO, the braincells he fried through decades of hardcore alcohol and cocaine abuse DON'T count.

^_^

Be Well.

"America is only linked to places like that by lefty nutcases."

So now he's a lefty nutcase?

Executioner #1; 'Business is dead'. ha ha

Executioner #2; 'ya, i never get tired of that one'.

Last time I checked capital punishment was Capital punishment. Dead is dead.

#5 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2009-01-05 10:43 PM | Reply

So Larry,, what's the repeat offense rate for dead criminals?

Capital punishment works

"Last time I checked capital punishment was Capital punishment. Dead is dead."

Then why don't we still chop peoples' heads off?

Excuse me, I meant to say burn people to death.

Excuse me, I meant to say burn people to death.

The 8th ammendment to the US Constitution

So Larry,, what's the repeat offense rate for dead criminals?

Capital punishment works

Posted by vernon at 2009-01-05 11:43 PM | Reply

You just make Killers out of the State as well as killers out of those who support the State killing a killer. So how does that stop the killing Vernon?? Of course the Dead can't kill again but it doesn't stop the State from killing the next killer.

Larry

haa!!! maybe it works!!

The reason this story is even out there might be because fear of death is a deterrent.

haa!!! maybe it works!!

The reason this story is even out there might be because fear of death is a deterrent.

haa!!! maybe it works!!

The reason this story is even out there might be because fear of death is a deterrent.

Larry, my question was a rhetorical one. To claim that the death penalty is just as barbaric in the US as it as in, say, Iran, where they stone people to death, is moronic.

Larry, my question was a rhetorical one. To claim that the death penalty is just as barbaric in the US as it as in, say, Iran, where they stone people to death, is moronic.

Posted by JOE at 2009-01-06 01:28 AM | Reply

I guess taking a defenseless dude out of a holding cell and strapping Him/Her onto a gurney/Chair/ and then executing Him/Her isn't just as barbaric in Your eyes Joe but to Me that is.

Larry

The reason this story is even out there might be because fear of death is a deterrent.

The death penalty has nothing to do with "deterence" and everything to do with "punishment".

Our society values the worth and dignity of human life.

It punishes the criminal taking of it appropriately.

"I guess taking a defenseless dude out of a holding cell and strapping Him/Her onto a gurney/Chair/ and then executing Him/Her isn't just as barbaric in Your eyes Joe but to Me that is."

Maybe it is - the one time every two years it happens in the US. As opposed to the hundreds of suspension hangings and stonings that happen every year in Iran, where they execute children.

But keep thinking we're all on the same plane. Some people need a reason to hate their country.

Do You realize in many American Cities had a place for hangings for Death Penalty cases. Kansas used to execute their prisoners by hanging. Dead is Dead and oh We used to sentence Kids under the age of 18 to Death before that was overturned not too long ago. So how are we any different than those Countries?? Oh and it's not hating ones Country to point out Her faults.

Larry

Good. It costs more to prosecute death sentences. We need to save money.

I've read stats that show Death Penalty does not reduce crime. Better to spend the funds in more police, as if I recall correctly, the probability of getting caught has a larger impact on reducing crime than the severity of punishment.

Also, the debate over CP needs to be split in two. From a philosophical perspective, i.e. right for state to take a life, and practical perspective, i.e. do I trust the system to be flawless, and if not, can we still take risk of killing innocents, based on eyewitness testimony, which has proven to be wrong on many occasions.

Personally - against it because of human error factors, but nothing in my morality says shooting Jeffrey dahmner is a bad thing.

Final point - can you be against death penalty but pro-choice?

oh yeah, i also love how people advocating locking a person in a dark 4 x 6 ft cell for 50+ years can take a moral highground.

"Do You realize in many American Cities had a place for hangings for Death Penalty cases. Kansas used to execute their prisoners by hanging. Dead is Dead and oh We used to sentence Kids under the age of 18 to Death before that was overturned not too long ago. So how are we any different than those Countries??"

We are different from them, because we have changed. The examples you cite no longer exist in our country. So we are no longer comparable to places like Iran, where they stone women to death for adultery, and execute children.

Thanks for playing.

or maybe now that the messiah is on his way to the throne that all the bad guys have reformed and obamatopis truely is happening..

or maybe not

but its good to know that we in texas still believe in rehabilitation that actually works.

"but its good to know that we in texas still believe in rehabilitation that actually works."

#28 | Posted by Rusty Trombone at 2009-01-06 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag: the exception which proves the rule

so you cant deny that when we 'rehabilitate' those killers that they NEVER KILL AGAIN...........

oh yeah, i also love how people advocating locking a person in a dark 4 x 6 ft cell for 50+ years can take a moral highground.

#25 | Posted by JimmiG

What's your solution to handle those who rape and murder?

There is an easy solution. Give the judge a gun. Make him do the dirty work at high noon.

The death penalty is a robber of life.

For example, I am glad that Charles Manson was
not executed for his (alleged) crimes. It is
satisfying to know that he has been confined
to prison - spending his time reflecting on the
error of his ways. It gives him a chance to try
to make amends to parties that have been grieved.

He has been given a chance to be a better person
(dead people don't have this chance). Perhaps
someday Mr. Manson will be released back into
society to give back to the community. Everyone
is special, and has something of value to offer.

It is always wrong to kill people.
Always.

Be Well.

It is always wrong to kill people.
Always.

You wouldn't take a hoodlum's life to save the life of your family or even an unrelated innocent?

I know what you are saying, but I'll bet you meant "almost always".

Look at the top of the thread and see the headline, I am sure they are talking about hoodlum's on the street threatning ones family members.

Oh, but the selective reading and understanding is so so misrepresented.

Last time I checked capital punishment was Capital punishment. Dead is dead.

I guess you are talking about the victims, right? Oh yea, you penalty opponets never talk about the victim.

The death penalty is a robber of life.

The death penalty is the giver of justice.

I guess taking a defenseless dude out of a holding cell and strapping Him/Her onto a gurney/Chair/ and then executing Him/Her isn't just as barbaric in Your eyes

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME LARRY? Defenseless?? How about the victims man??????? Wonder how many of them were "defenseless". You fucking liberals are more inhumane than anyone could ever be.

Oh, but the selective reading and understanding is so so misrepresented.

As you did of my sentence upthread that read:

"I know what you are saying,..."

That's OK. I forgive you.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME LARRY? Defenseless?? How about the victims man??????? Wonder how many of them were "defenseless". You fucking liberals are more inhumane than anyone could ever be.

Posted by boaz at 2009-01-06 07:28 PM | Reply

Says the Guy who doesn't think about the Killers Family. They are victims too You know. Or did that ever cross Your brainwashed mind of Yours Boaz??? Please do try yet again.

Larry

And what does Boaz say when they fry an innocent man............justice was served.

Oh and Boaz if You had any common sense about You You would know that the Death Penalty is not a giver of Justice but Vengence. For if The Death Penalty was the Giver of Justice then those the Killer hath killed would become alive after His/Her Death. Doesn't work that way Boaz no matter how fucking hard You try and say otherwise.

Larry

Says the Guy who doesn't think about the Killers Family.

Neither did the killer think of his family either when he KILLED someone.

And what does Boaz say when they fry an innocent man

In my mind, it is worth it. Maybe not to the innocent man, but justice must be served. But obviously, I'm not going to change either of your minds. But I am glad the option for the death penalty is there for my family if I were ever murdered.

In my mind, it is worth it. Maybe not to the innocent man, but justice must be served. But obviously, I'm not going to change either of your minds. But I am glad the option for the death penalty is there for my family if I were ever murdered.

Posted by boaz at 2009-01-06 07:41 PM | Reply

You fucking talk about Justice being done by killing an innocent man. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GET YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES Boaz. You claim to be all for the Death Penbalty because You believe it is justice for killing innocent people but when the state kills an innocent man You think it's worth it. My God Dude have some common sense about You. You contradict Yourself whe4n You say It's OK to kill an innocent man by the State but it's not ok for a killer to kill an innocent man. GET REAL BOAZ

Larry

Sorry Larry,

This is something I feel too strongly about. If someone were to kill my sister, I would want the death penalty. Period. Especially if she was defenseless and raped. The killer needs to die. The death penalty serves its purpose. I'm glad we have it.

This is something I feel too strongly about. If someone were to kill my sister, I would want the death penalty. Period. Especially if she was defenseless and raped. The killer needs to die. The death penalty serves its purpose. I'm glad we have it.

Posted by boaz at 2009-01-06 07:49 PM | Reply

You aren't for justice Boaz. You are for retribution and Vengence. They are not the same. If it was just to kill a killer that person the killer killed would come back to life at the killers death. It doesn't happen. Only reason for the Death Penalty is societies vengence and Retribution against the Killer.

Larry

Bullshit Larry.....

We disagree..

My mother was a victim of a violent crime. A restaurant she owned in Akron, Oh was robbed and the thief gravely injured my mother, she was very lucky to survive. The thief was caught and given 8 life sentences for his crime. He will never see the outside world ever again.

After his crime he shaved his head and went to his mothers home who happened to live in public housing. The mother was evicted for her sons crime because the housing authority said she harbored a fleeing criminal even though she had no idea what had just happened and had nothing to do with it.

After I found out about the eviction my moms husband (who was also present and injured in the robbery attempt) and I went to the Housing Authority and the DA and requested that this mother be allowed to move back into her home as she was a victim of her own child and was older and ill.

It took a couple of meetings with the Housing Authority and the DA but we got her back into her home. There was no reason to create two victims.

A few months later after my mom was somewhat coherent we told her what we did and she was happy we supported the mother and kept her in her home as she will never see her son again.

There is too much hurt in this world...

Prolix -- kudos to you and your step-dad on that honorable action. It was the right thing to do.

Yeah, it was the right thing to do. I'm getting a little upset thinking about it though. I will never forget that flight to Akron, was working that day and my boss called me back from the field, had a ticket in his hand when I arrived and he told me my mom had been murdered.

Bad, Bad day...

Prolix--now that was the honorable thing to do. Thank you.

Glad to hear your Mom got better.

"Maybe Americans are sick and tired of being linked to places like Iran Saudi Arabia China You know Bastions of Capital Punishment."

America is only linked to places like that by lefty nutcases. Anyone with a brain knows there is a difference.

#4 | Posted by JOE at 2009-01-05 10:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, I think Bush is a nutcase too, but a 'lefty'? Who knew.

Nobody has a 'link' with the Saudis quite like the Deciderer.