Oops...

"it may be significant."

Indeed.
Definitely for Richardson.
This early in an upcoming presidency, Obama should be able to weather it okay.
But it better not become s.o.p.

And they start to fall...........

Maybe richardson can appoint a couple of his bffs to investigate him.

It worked well for Palin...

Haven't even gotten to Hillary and the conflicts of interest with Billy and all that money he received for the library.

Or to Eric Holder--the AG pick. Idiot incompetent to push thru Marc Rich, FALN and Weather Underground pardons during Clinton's end of days.

In the days ahead, only a fool would want to be Commerce Secretary, when there will be so little commerce.

Besides, in a liberal administration, who wants to be responsible for the Commerce Department? Or Defense? Health and Human Services is where the action is.

Maybe bill richardson is stepping aside because he knows people will use anything against obama, and he figures get this cleaned up and go back to being governor, which i understand he is a good one. i really think richardson was't really interested is the commerce dept. his talents belong else where.
youi people can't stand that obama won---get over it!!!!!

i really think richardson was't really interested is the commerce dept.

#8 | Posted by terry61042

Did he tell you this?

Nice try terry,

This is just the first of Obamas criminal friends to go down.

"In reality Richardson is another capable centrist about whom the great unwashed will not be able to say much negative."

Herm.

"Richardson is a good bloke who's held a Cabinet level postition before as Clinton's SecEnergy and hopefully will bring his considerable talents to bear on the Sec Commerce gig within the Obama admin."

Dethspud.

Corrupt fat pigs. All of them.

And they start to fall...........

#4 | Posted by cabo_vato

Hell, he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

Richardson is a corrupt bastard, from the stories that float around this state.

He's trying to keep this thing from ruining him completely.

I predict this as blowing up, there's blood in the water...

And just when I thought there was no such thing as an honest Republican, now the Democrats can't keep it honest. Tough times I guess. The Governors just can't make an honest living on their wages either. Yea right!

A Hispanic-American is being set up.
When will the oppression end?

Be Well.

Further proof that when you have politics for pay what you end up with is a room full of WHORES!

Is it me or is the press hiding MRS. Obama?

Blago could learn a lesson from Richardson.

This may end Richardson as governor.

Richardson didn't need this gig anyway. He made enough money selling nuke secrets to the Chinese.

"What I want to see is how the press plays this"

They will bury it of course. After all, he is one of them.

by J-hot: "Blago could learn a lesson from Richardson"

actually, fed Fitzgerald could get some schooling here ...
"wait til AFTER your guy breaks the law, THEN have a press conference detailing your investigation & arrest"

The condition of New Mexico speaks of Richardson's ability.

It is a socialist state and all the freebies have attracted the lowest common denominator. The crime rate is horrible.

It's unfortunate that the secret beauty of NM has this burden.

Richardson wanted the spot that Hillary got, so maybe- just maybe richardson decided heck, i'll just drop out before some people---not mentioning any names---might play dirty with this, an use it against obama. we know how these people haved used stories before to make others look bad, so they don
't look at what they thenselves are doing, the old shell game.

ACLUSUX

Where are you from? Some winner of a state like Alabama?

Unless you live in New Mexico you're talking out the wrong end ...

I've been to New Mexico a few times in the last few years. Looked great, upbeat people. Not at all like you.

OT, but he looks terrible...flabby and pale. Doesn't he make enough money to take care of himself?

NM rates at the bottom of everything--education, crime. They want a bailout too.

Too bad he wasn't the VP pick--right?

Along with Edwards as AG until his affair came out.

Been a banner year for the DC crowd--both sides fo the aisle.

Dems in particular inside and outside the beltway.

actually, fed Fitzgerald could get some schooling here ...
"wait til AFTER your guy breaks the law, THEN have a press conference detailing your investigation & arrest"

#25 | Posted by markh

He was covering obams's ass by breaking it before a crime.

Never judge a book by its cover--learned that along time ago

All these people who've probably never ever been to New Mexico.

It's a beautiful state. Sure, Albuquerque has some crime. Every large city does. But, to pretend New Mexico is anywhere near Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and other red states in illiteracy or crime or poverty is ridiculous.

Don't put Dems in corrupt column alone---i have seen alot of corruption in the las 8 years, alot of hate towords people that you don't agree with or don't look like us.
i have been around enough to know don't be to quick to judge.
in 2000 i put up with bush being elected, gave him a chance--then 9-11 came, an my late husband an i decided that we would really back bush, going into afagnistan was the right move---but then bush let others take over, an off to iraq we went. wrong move--
nixon was a crook an deceitful---bush just wasn't intelligent enough to run his own presidency, he farmed it out to cheney and rummy.
it will take this country at least 30 years or more to turn around what bush allowed to happen, i'll be dead by that time --so god bless those of you that are left behind.
never be fooled again---please

"Richardson is a good bloke who's held a Cabinet level postition before as Clinton's SecEnergy and hopefully will bring his considerable talents to bear on the Sec Commerce gig within the Obama admin."

~Dethspud (via SilentMajority)

Nice to see someone is doing sommat with Spud's old posts.

Spud holds to that position, btw.

Coupla things here, first, Richardson hasn't been convicted of anything yet. He's stepping down so that "no-drama" Obama can fill the slot w/o being overly distracted by the inevitable RW hew and cry over the charges.

It's an "appearance of impropriety" thing at this point not a slam dunk case that Richardson has done sommat wrong.

Second, would that Ted Steven or Larry Craig or Rod Blowjobevich would have the integrity to step down gracefully under fire as Richardson has done here.

Third, listen to Obama's words here.

It is a measure of his willingness to put the nation first that he has removed himself as a candidate for the Cabinet in order to avoid any delay in filling this important economic post at this critical time. Although we must move quickly to fill the void left by Governor Richardson's decision, I look forward to his future service to our country and in my administration.

Once this thing blows over (if it does) he will return in some capacity to Obama's cabinet.

If it is proven that Richardson is indeed a corrupt pol who's made pay for play deals with the business under investigation that broke the law then Spud will certainly be the first to admit that Richardson had him fooled.

Finally, isn't it odd how the FBI are so focused on investigating Dems in the last coupla months before the Dems take power? It's almost like they've been given marching orders to do so by someone high up in government.

Provided the investigations are legitimate Spud has no problem with them taking place and in fact encourages the FBI to weed out the corrupt pols from the rest of the pack but the possibility that this is political payback must also come under serious consideration.

Be Well.

/Like he do
stage left.

Dethspud--thanks you said most of what i think, but in a much better way---thanks

This constitutes moral turpitude and the if the withdrawal is any indication, Richardson is toast.

Just the first of many black eyes for the new administration.

When this happens, it is the ---

President-elect-Commerce- selection-possible-deflection- rejection.

obama hasn't even taken office and all we hear about is crooked dealings in and around his admin.

Not to worry, Maverick. If the past is any barometer, once he becomes President you won't even care if he outs an undercover CIA agent, starts a war of choice, and presides over a DOJ willing to tell bald-faced lies to the American public.

by D-Spud; Coupla things here, first, Richardson hasn't been convicted of anything yet. He's stepping down so that "no-drama" Obama can fill the slot w/o being overly distracted... It's an "appearance of impropriety" thing at this point ....

would that Ted Steven or Larry Craig or Rod Blowjobevich would have the integrity to step down gracefully under fire as Richardson has done here.

Third, listen to Obama's words here.

btw, I'm kinda new & was nearly ready to offer my condolences for your demise as D-Spud was referred to in "3rd person, past tense" - - was relieved after a more careful read :)

I like Bill, if he truly is innocent the guy should stick around, let the investigation prove him righteous and serve his country in the capacity our future Prez requires of him.

"Richardson is a good bloke"- dudspud

Oh to have the rose covered glasses of the libs - of course they only work when looking at dems. A glowing endorsement from you spud is like a case of herpes. Or should I say HERMES.

"Oh to have the rose covered glasses of the libs - of course they only work when looking at dems."

Oh to have the rose covered glasses of the cons - of course they only work when looking at reps.

"All these people who've probably never ever been to New Mexico.

It's a beautiful state. Sure, Albuquerque has some crime. Every large city does. But, to pretend New Mexico is anywhere near Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and other red states in illiteracy or crime or poverty is ridiculous." - AU

Spoken like a limo liberal....

I go there 3-4 times a year, Deming, to race my car. the places you mention are rich, the rest.... not so much...

"Leads nation in forcible rape.."

No, they don't.

Reread your link; that distinction belongs to Governor Sarah Palin's state.

Reread your link; that distinction belongs to Governor Sarah Palin's state.

I don't understand people's obsession with this lady. She is a has been in US politics, a footnote in historyk, but people just can't leave stop dropping her name.

Instead of saying "Alaska" to address a negative point of view, it is "Governor Sarah Palin's state". Get over her already! Move on for christ's sake.

DO the stats include crimes committed by Indians?

Reread your link; that distinction belongs to Governor Sarah Palin's state.

#47 | Posted by Danforth

Put down your crackpipe and reread the stats crackhead.

"Instead of saying "Alaska" to address a negative point of view, it is "Governor Sarah Palin's state". Get over her already! "

Read the thread. Folks are blaming Richardson---the governor---for the crime in New Mexico. I guess what's good for the goose is unallowed for the gander.

"Put down your crackpipe and reread the stats crackhead."

I did, dumbshit.

Now you do the same, and then come back and explain how 76 is a smaller number than 56 in your world.

My Bad, I put it down.

Read the thread. Folks are blaming Richardson---the governor---for the crime in New Mexico.

I did. You are right, the thread is about New Mexico. However, you did not respond in kind. Had you, I would accept your excuse.

Your responded to a statistic referring to "New Mexico" (not "governor Richardson's state") with "Governor Palin's state (not "Alaska").

Sorry, Danforth. Weak excuse for bringing her up.

Get over her already! Move on for christ's sake.

#48 | Posted by goatman

Agree with you wholeheartedly.

Would you tell HER please?

"You are right, the thread is about New Mexico."

And as I also stated, some were blaming the governor. Why bring up any stats regarding New Mexico on a thread where the topic is Bill Richardson if you're not putting same on the fire?

And so the women of Alaska report more rapes than another state.

And she has been governor for 2 years and Richardson for how many? Since 2002--6 years.

Does that account for anything?

"And so the women of Alaska report more rapes than another state." "Does that account for anything?"

No. These rapes reported were all in one year. And the underlying assumption is all rapes are reported/not reported at the same rate from state to state. If you can prove otherwise, go ahead.

Do societal norms of the respective state mean anything? Does the male/female ration of the respective states mean anything? Do psychological factors caused from the environment (e.g. being cooped up without sun for months at a time) mean anything? Are the inherent inhibitions handed down for generations by the indigent cultures to blame?

Naah -- what silly notions. It has to be the governor's fault. If there's a republican handy to blame, do it by god!

"Naah -- what silly notions. It has to be the governor's fault. "

Make up your mind: is it good for both, or off-limits for both?

Make up your mind:

My mind is made up. I don't believe that a single person can be blamed for any crime statistic.

I try to look at the big picture. 90% of the people here are so myopic that they can't do that. They knee jerkingly look to see if there is a single scapegoat. To me, that's very simply minded. But that's just me. Looking at all factors involved may be a fucked up way to address issues, but I don't think so.

During his tenure as Secretary of Energy, Richardson stopped by Standford Linear Accelerator Center to tell 1000 scientists that the country should have a woman heading a national lab.

"My mind is made up. I don't believe that a single person can be blamed for any crime statistic."

LOL. If that were really the case, you would have posted responses to everyone who blamed Richardson.

If that were really the case, you would have posted responses to everyone who blamed Richardson.

Oh dear.

Thank you for telling me what is really going in my mind and what I really think Danforth. What could I do without your infinite wisdom invading my brain and telling me what I really think?

/sarcasm off

My statement covered all situations, (hence the reference to 'big picture') including Richardson and Palin, neither of whom I mentioned by name. Yes, I sarcastically said, "Blame the republican" because that is what I was addressing in the original post. Sorry you missed the snarkiness, Danforth.

Do you feel better now? Or do you need to ammend your statement and further refine my thought processes for me?

I can't believe the arrogance of some people who feel they have to tell me what I 'really' think.

Flop Ears hasn't even taken office yet and everyone he has been involved with seems to be a crook. His administration should be good for some laughs but I doubt that anyone will take him seriously. Thank God for the filibuster and God bless the Neocons.

"I can't believe the arrogance of some people who feel they have to tell me what I 'really' think."

Then let me amend:

If you truly believe what you posted, it's curious you never bothered to mention it to those who wanted to blame Richardson. Somehow, the only thing that set you off was I had the audacity to point out it was Sarah Palin's state, not Richardson's state, as leading the nation in forceable rape.

If you truly believe what you posted,...

As I said, thank you for telling me what I really think. Without the likes of you, betelg, and to a lesser extent, da bOoB to tell me what I really think, I'd be lost. What a pity I had to wait 53 years until someone of your intellect came along to tell me my true opinions on matters of the world.

Now go back to your simplistic and binary "if it is bad, it's a republican" myopic view of the world, please. Leave the rational and more complex thought processes to those of us who can actually handle more than one data input at a time.

"As I said, thank you for telling me what I really think."

I'm not. I'm saying if you want to pretend you're not a partisan hack, an example now and then might be in order.

... it's curious you never bothered to mention it to those who wanted to blame Richardson.

"big picture" includes everything and everyone -- including New Mexico and Richardson. Does this actually have to spelled out for you? I guess so. That's why I said as much in post #61 since it was clear to me you didn't understand what I meant with the phrase 'big picture'. Hopefully telling you a second time will finally make it sink in. I'm not really a 'third time's a charm' type person.

BTW, 'big picture' includes all the states and all the governors even though I did not list them specifically. Hope this helps you to grok.

an example now and then might be in order.

'Big picture' includes both parties.
'Big picture' includes both parties.
'Big picture' includes both parties.

Get it?

*sigh*

It's impossible to get through to someone whose mind is already made up. I give up with you, danforth.

"Big picture' includes both parties. Get it?"

Yes.

And the governor of the state with the highest incidence of forceable rape is Sarah Palin.

Get it?

Correction:

"...forcible rape per capita"

And the governor of the state with the highest incidence of forceable rape is Sarah Palin.

Get it?

who are you arguing with Danforth? Was it Goatman who asserted that is was New Mexico?

And the governor of the state with the highest incidence of forceable rape is Sarah Palin.

Get it?

Yes I do. Are you implying she is solely responsible for this statistic? If not, why bring her up? If so, I defer to my post #59 and j'accuse of a highly simplistic, binary, and myopic view on the matter.

"If not, why bring her up? "

Asked and answered. #51.

"If so, I defer to my post #59 and j'accuse of a highly simplistic, binary, and myopic view on the matter."

Reasons are what they are. I could just as easily claim your factors were highly simplistic and myopic as well. In fact, you and I could guess the reasons until the end of days. But I wasn't the one who made the false claim; I was the one who corrected it. No, I don't believe the Governor is solely responsible, and I never said that. My simple response to a false claim that NM led the nation in forceable rape per capita---in a thread about the Governor of New Mexico---was to point out that distinction belongs to the state of Alaska, who, as long as we're talking governors, is Sarah Palin.

We've come full circle haven't we, Danforth. I see no need to do two laps.

Thanks for not allowing this to devolve into a name calling flame war. It makes debating much more meaningful.

"Thanks for not allowing this to devolve into a name calling flame war. It makes debating much more meaningful."

Back at'cha.

My simple response to a false claim that NM led the nation in forceable rape per capita---in a thread about the Governor of New Mexico---was to point out that distinction belongs to the state of Alaska, who, as long as we're talking governors, is Sarah Palin.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-01-04 10:04 PM

Usings stats from 2007, neither Alaska (75 forceable rape arrests) nor New Mexico (117 forceable rape arrests) lead the nation. However, this is not using a per capita accounting and is only for the year 2007.

"However, this is not using a per capita accounting"

Which is how crime statistics are counted.

"The two states are so different in so many ways, you can't really make any kind of comparison as it's difficult to get an accurate accounting when it comes to the true number of actual forcible rapes committed."

True. So we use the only fair comparison: incidences per 100,000 population. Otherwise, we're guessing at reasons. Do Eskimos also report rapes at lower percentages than the general populace? We don't know. And if we only did raw numbers, California or another populous state would lead in virtually every category every time.

Also, keep in mind it wasn't even close. Alaska's rate was 35% higher.

and the Lord asked Obama "is there anyone in the city without sin?"

The rumors of Richardson having sexual affairs, and rampant corruption here in New Mexico are numerous. Scary shit.

New Mexico is like a little Mexico town BEFORE the hero comes to town in a speghetti western...

Nice try terry,

This is just the first of Obamas criminal friends to go down.

#10 | Posted by cabo_vato at 2009-01-04 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stepping down is now the same as 'going down'?

Wow....I guess Bush had more failures than we thought.

Ahem!

A rundown of Bush appointees who left under a cloud or face conflict-of-interest allegations....and this is just since Aug 2007!

--Scooter Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in a grand jury investigation into the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame. His trial also implicated top political adviser Karl Rove and Cheney in a campaign to discredit her husband, Iraq war critic and retired ambassador Joe Wilson. Libby, who plans an appeal, is awaiting a June 5 sentencing.

-- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is fighting to hold onto his job in the face of congressional investigations into his role in the firing of eight U.S. attorneys. Two top aides have resigned in the investigation into whether the firings were politically motivated. Emails and other evidence released by the Justice Deparment suggest that Rove played a part in the process. Other e-mails, sent on Republican party accounts, either have disappeared or were erased.

-- Paul Wolfowitz, president of the World Bank and a former deputy defense secretary, acknowledged he helped arrange a large pay raise for his female companion when she was transferred to the State Department but remained on the bank payroll. The incident intensified calls at the bank for his resignation.

-- J. Steven Griles, an oil and gas lobbyist who became deputy Interior Secretary J., last month became the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling scandal, pleading guilty to obstructing justice by lying to a Senate committee about his relationship with the convicted lobbyist. Abramoff repeatedly sought Griles' intervention at Interior on behalf of Indian tribal clients.

-- Former White House aide, David H. Safavian, was convicted last year of lying to government investigators about his ties to Abramoff and faces a 180-month prison sentence.

-- Roger Stillwell, a former Interior Department official, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge for not reporting tickets he received from Abramoff.

-- Sue Ellen Wooldridge, the top Justice Department prosecutor in the environmental division until January, bought a $980,000 beach house in South Carolina with ConocoPhillips lobbyist Donald R. Duncan and oil and gas lobbyist Griles. Soon thereafter, she signed an agreement giving the oil company more time to clean up air pollution at some of its refineries. Congressional Democrats have denounced the arrangement.

This list doesn't even include the 'I want to spend more time with my family' crowd

Here's some more;

-- Matteo Fontana, a Department of Education official who oversaw the student loan industry, was put on leave last week after disclosure that he owned at least $100,000 worth of stock in a student loan company.

-- Claude Allen, who had been Bush's domestic policy adviser, pleaded guilty to theft in making phony returns at discount department stores while working at the White house. He was sentenced to two years of supervised probation and fined $500.

-- Philip Cooney, a former American Petroleum Institute lobbyist who became chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, acknowledged in congressional testimony earlier this year that he changed three government reports to eliminate or downplay links between greenhouse gases and global warming. He left in 2005 to work for Exxon Mobil Corp.

-- Darleen Druyun, a former Air Force procurement officer, served nine months in prison in 2005 for violating federal conflict-of-interest rules in a deal to lease Boeing refueling tankers for $23 billion, despite Pentagon studies showing the tankers were unnecessary. After making the deal, she quit the government and joined Boeing.

--Eric Keroack, Bush's choice to oversee the federal family planning program, resigned from the post suddenly last month after the Massachusetts Medicaid office launched an investigation into his private practice. He had been medical director of an organization that opposes premarital sex and contraception.

-- Lurita Doan, head of the General Services Administration, attended a luncheon at the agency earlier this year with other top GSA political appointees at which Scott Jennings, a top Rove aide, gave a PowerPoint demonstration on how to help Republican candidates in 2008. A congressional committee is investigating whether the remarks violated a federal law that restricts executive-branch employees from using their positions for political purposes.

-- Robert W. Cobb, NASA's inspector general is under investigation on charges of ignoring safety violations in the space program. An internal administration review said he routinely tipped off department officials to internal investigations and quashed a report related to the Columbia shuttle explosion to avoid embarrassing the agency. He remains on the job. Only Bush can fire him.

-- Julie MacDonald, who oversees the Fish and Wildlife Service but has no academic background in biology, overrode recommendations of agency scientists about how to protect endangered species and improperly leaked internal information to private groups, the Interior Department inspector general said.

Let's also not forget Chertoff, Ashcroft and Rumsfeld.

Disappointing that Bill Richardson would bow out like this. It makes him look like somebody waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Unfortunately, that may be because he IS waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Or maybe he just decided that a Cabinet position was a "been there, done that" thing for him.

I hope that's all it is.

Further proof that when you have politics for pay what you end up with is a room full of WHORES!

#18 | Posted by bashthis
Ugliest damn bunch of whores I have ever seen!

And the governor of the state with the highest incidence of forceable rape is Sarah Palin.

Get it?

#71 | Posted by Danforth
What else is there to do in Alaska. Day 1 get up and look at the beautiful scenery. Day 2 well it was light yesterday, why is it dark today? Day 3 damn it is still dark. Day 50 it is still dark and I am going nuts. Day 100 damn this darkness I am going to rape someone! Crazy beggers can't help themselves. We need some liberal compassion (and working peoples money) to send councilors out there. They really can't be blamed, it is a diease. We should feel for them, not degrade them or their leaders...

Day 100 damn this darkness I am going to rape someone!
BTW if they reported the rape of animales the numbers on the rape of women would be way low in comparrison

Another Democrat investigation linked to Obama. So much for the change. And why are all these appointments coming from the Clinton Administration? I will be the first to acknowledge the conspiracy theory that Bill Clinton is the puppet master of Obama.

"Another Democrat investigation linked to Obama."

How? Because he knows the guy?