Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, January 03, 2009

"As the new Democratic majority prepares to take power," writes New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, "Republicans have become, as Phil Gramm might put it, a party of whiners."

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Excellent article. Thanks for posting DOC, you beat me to it.

Gald you liked it, Darth. Krugman will probably take a bunch of hits here, references to how in some posters' uninformed view a Nobel is (as Arbusto might say) "just a goddamned piece of paper" (with a very attractive gong to go with it). Then they'll veer off into Al Gore and his Nobel.

Whining all the way.

Well, duh. Just read the posts of the GOPhers here on the DR. Is there anybody really just learning now that rightwingers are the whiniest bitches in America? (To say nothing about how stupid they tend to be.)

"Krugman will probably take a bunch of hits here,"

I doubt it. I predict that most Conservatives will ignore this thread -- or perhpas come here to tweak you.

Krugman has done nothing but string together a bunch of old accusations, in order to file his column and get paid. There's no new thoughts or insight here: just the same old shit meant to appease the kind of people who use terms like "Rethug" because they cannot participate in thoughtful discourse.

As for his Nobel, or Gore's (or Carter's for that matter) nobody really cares. The Nobels are clearly non-serious if clowns like this recieve them.

BTW, it's halfwits on the Left (Drunk_Sarvis) who drag out the same old lines every time.

Bring up the demise of the Cold War, or tax cuts in the 1980s (for example) and sure as shine some Lefty will think he negates that with a mention of Iran-Contra.

"BTW, it's halfwits on the Left (Drunk_Sarvis) who drag out the same old lines every time."

And it's morons like you who remain incapable of dealing with reality. Ask yourself this one, Vermin: Why do you think your Chinese masters bother to deal with you? You must be a real knockout performing your kow-tow, knowing in your dark little heart of hearts what a pathetic figure you cut.

By the way, thanks for proving my original point.

"For me, the key is the 'where we (Reps) go from here.'"

I'll answer that with a tune...

www.youtube.com

Bring up the demise of the Cold War, or tax cuts in the 1980s (for example) and sure as shine some Lefty will think he negates that with a mention of Iran-Contra.

Reagan raised taxes and American debt more than propagandised sheeple like you will ever admit to.

Reagan was not responsible for the demise of the Cold War as much as you Rtards like to think so.

Iran Contra was just the tip of the iceberg in term of Zombie Rayguns failings.

Be Well.

/See? Spud sed "Rtard" instead of "rethug" just so you could number him amongst the people who can can "participate in thoughtful discourse"

//Who knows, one day you too may grow up enuff to join them ranks.

///You will have to join a twelve step program fer yer Koolaid addiction first however.

FTA: Mr. Obama therefore has room to be bold. If Republicans try a 1993-style strategy of attacking him for promoting big government, they'll learn two things: not only has the financial crisis discredited their economic theories, the racial subtext of anti-government rhetoric doesn't play the way it used to.

Brilliant analysis by Mr K here.

The first step to solving a problem is recognising that one exists. Today's GOPhers are so busy buying into their own propaganda that they haven't even come close to taking that first neccessary step.

They are reality-challenged.

Good eye, Doc.

Be Well.

"Be Well."

And you, too, in this New Year, Spud.

"As for his Nobel, or Gore's (or Carter's for that matter) nobody really cares. The Nobels are clearly non-serious if clowns like this recieve them."

Krugman received a Nobel in Economics. The others, in Peace.

Meanwhile, as long as there's a Nobel Prize, Carter and Gore, like Doctors without Borders, Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa, and Martin Luther King, Jr. (and, Henry Kissinger), will be forever remembered.

Mr. Spit! Stroke! Repeat!, meanwhile, will be remembered on a liberal Web site as a bitter assh*le. Nothing more, nothing less. Despite his claims of "children" who will be our "bosses."

Hans

Geez, hans -- give it a rest. I just looked at your user log and almost all your posts are mouth breathing, mouth foaming rabid rantings of a lunatic. The more you drool, the less credibility you have.

And as far as your dredging up the same tired posts over and over: (we've all seen those links several times, bOoB -- I mean, hans) Why don't you take your own advice?

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-03-18 11:07 AM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-20 09:00 PM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-20 08:44 PM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-05 07:28 PM

Live in the now:
...
Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-05 06:34 PM

Live in the now:
...
Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-02 10:47 PM


Now go get a nappie and wipe the foam off your mouth

Interesting how some people are content with taking words out-of-context, and not even providing a link to said words so others can determine for themselves what was said.

I try to do that whenever I can. Wonder why others don't.

Deceitfulness?

Hans

Posted by Hans at 2008-03-24 02:01 PM

Perhaps they need to get a nappie and wipe the foam off their mouth.

Hans

And speaking of deceitfulness:

Unlike last time when I said I was simply taking a break, I am leaving for good.
I have always been impressed by the integrity of even a self-proclaimed "teenager"
You know what 4get it........

I APOLOGIZE ......

I AM GONE......

And again I am a teenager.....My name is Miguel, I go to Hoover high School, HR Room 286, Mr. Garcia. I take two buses to get to school, the 81 and tha 181. if you are familiar with the area. Im gone for good. Goodbye.

Posted by teenager at 2005-09-30 03:00 PM

Imagine that! "I AM GONE......" and "Im gone for good" (Damn! That sounds familiar!).

A a self-proclaimed "teenager" announcing that he's gone, "for good" and was, in 101's words, a man of your word.

Impressive.

Hans

So 'live in the now' is applicable only when it suits your needs. Otherwise you don't want to hear it.

Got it.

Perhaps they need to get a nappie and wipe the foam off their mouth.

???

It's not my posts that are filled with vitriol and largely unprovoked. The nappies would get much more use from you, hans.

Compare our two users blogs if you think differently. An open mind would indicate that I am correct.

BINGO! I knew if I pushed your buttons enough you would finally post that link. Thanks, hans!

BTW, I always ask this, but you never answer. Let's see if this 'deceitfullness' you cite applies to you:

Have you ever said anything and reneged on it? Of course you have. We all have. So you hypocrisy of chastising me for doing what every human has ever done is even more amusing than the 'live in the now'. LOL

BTW, thanks in advance for not answering that question again. LOL Your hypocrisy is again underscored for us all to see.

"It's not my posts that are filled with vitriol and largely unprovoked."

Is this the Drudge Discussion? I don't think so.

Is this the Drudge Debate? Again, negative.

Is this the Drudge Retort?

I think we have a winner.

Hans

I think we have a winner.

You confuse vitriol with retorting. Here let me help you:

www.merriam-webster.com

Most of your last several posts were not retorts, unless you think retorting to the same thing over and over unprovoked is retorting. If so, yes -- we have a winner! Congratulations! Hold your head high! LOL

"Have you ever said anything and reneged on it?"

I have always been impressed by the integrity of even a self-proclaimed "teenager"

You know what 4get it........

I APOLOGIZE ......

I AM GONE......

And again I am a teenager.....My name is Miguel, I go to Hoover high School, HR Room 286, Mr. Garcia. I take two buses to get to school, the 81 and tha 181. if you are familiar with the area. Im gone for good. Goodbye.

Posted by teenager at 2005-09-30 03:00 PM

Imagine that! "I AM GONE......" and "Im gone for good" (Damn! That sounds familiar!).

He didn't "renege" on a message posted for all to see. He was, in 101's words, a man of your word.

Why he didn't even equivocate and announce "Besides, I did leave... For two weeks.".

Nope. He left for good.

Impressive.

Hans

"unprovoked"

Posted by goatman at 2009-01-02 09:15 PM
Unprovoked.

Hans

Posted by teenager at 2005-09-30 03:00 PM

So you had to go back only three years to find a post of someone leaving and stayed away.

Impressive.

BTW, have you ever said something then reneged on it? Changed your mind on what you said?

Well? Spamming the teenager's post isn't an answer. (well, it is the answer of a coward who is afraid to openly admit his hypocrisy) A simple yes or no will do. LOL

"unprovoked"

Posted by goatman at 2009-01-02 09:15 PM
Unprovoked.

Someone's hypocrisy is again underscored for us all to see.

Hans

"So you had to go back only three years to find a post of someone leaving and stayed away."

Integrity knows no time limit.

Hypocrisy also seems to be timeless.

Hans

So hans, have you ever made a declaration and renegged on it?

Easy question. To cowardly to answer? LOL

Hypocrisy also seems to be timeless.

Clearly:

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-03-18 11:07 AM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-20 09:00 PM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-20 08:44 PM

Live in the now.

Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-05 07:28 PM

Live in the now:
...
Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-05 06:34 PM

Live in the now:
...
Hans
Posted by Hans at 2008-02-02 10:47 PM


LOL

"So hans, have you ever made a declaration and renegged on it?"

Apparently only stupid people make public declarations on Internet bulletin boards they have no intention of keeping.

Meanwhile, I have always been impressed by the integrity of even a self-proclaimed "teenager"

You know what 4get it........

I APOLOGIZE ......

I AM GONE......

And again I am a teenager.....My name is Miguel, I go to Hoover high School, HR Room 286, Mr. Garcia. I take two buses to get to school, the 81 and tha 181. if you are familiar with the area. Im gone for good. Goodbye.

Posted by teenager at 2005-09-30 03:00 PM

Imagine that! "I AM GONE......" and "Im gone for good" (Damn! That sounds familiar!).

He didn't "renege" on a message posted for all to see. He was, in 101's words, a man of your word.

Why he didn't even equivocate and announce on a public bulletin board "Besides, I did leave... For two weeks.".

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping. Something I've never done.

Nope. He left for good.

Impressive.

LOL!

Hans

Mr. Obama therefore has room to be bold...

Brilliant analysis by Mr K here. -- #9 | Posted by dethspud

I agree where this part is concerned. I don't think Krugman went far enough in his indictment of the Bush Administration, though, and I think he went too far by lumping all Republicans together.

People who dismiss the Bush administration as incompetent do so by thinking about its effects on the welfare of the country and/or world as a whole. As Krugman astutely notes, though, the Bushes have always been an "Our people vs. Those people" crowd -- although I'd argue that the dividing line is as much about class as it is about race. His indifference to the suffering of Americans displaced by Katrina, as well as Barbara Bush's horrifying remarks at the time urbanlegends.about.com were an obvious indicator. But also, keep in mind that he engineered a remarkable power grab for HIS executive branch and bolstered support for extremists like Ahmadinejad and recruitment for groups like Al Qaeda (remember, Repubs win when Americans think we need hawks in office). Halliburton is aslosh with untraceable "reconstruction" money, and oil companies have enjoyed huge windfall profits and increased support for drilling ANYWHERE. Perhaps most remarkably of all, he convinced a Democratic Congress to sign off on a $700B transfer of wealth from ordinary Americans to the very wealthy, leaving them unable to say much about the Fed's transfer of another $2 trillion -- a money grab so astonishing that Fox News is demanding an investigation and filing charges under FOIA. And he did all this without breaking a sweat -- as of Aug. 2007, he was on track to break Reagan's record for most vacation days taken by a U.S. President. www.chron.com The Bush Administration is clearly corrupt, but not clearly stupid.

I'm also quite sure that he doesn't represent Republicans as a whole. If you look at district-level red/blue maps, the divide is largely urban/rural -- and at the national level, most Dems are too busy sneering at rural voters to figure out how to make a connection with them. My niece grew up in a dead car town with lousy jobs and lousy schools. Her best friend at six was a (white) classmate living with her grandmother because her father was in jail (drugs) and her mother had 5 kids by 3 different fathers. The cycle persists -- no jobs, lousy schools mean most of her classmates didn't even consider college, and many get in trouble as much out of boredom as anything else. My niece is furious that part of the taxes taken out of the paycheck she earns from her part-time cashier job pays child support to high-school classmates (mostly white) who deliberately got pregnant because they wanted babies and knew the gov't would pay. In her world, family values keep you from making those kinds of choices, and so "clinging to religion" makes a lot more sense than embracing liberal values as they're portrayed by the right -- who, by and large, are the only ones who TALK about values.

She's not Republican because she's racist -- far from it. She's Republican because Huffington's liberals have not left their limousines long enough to find out who she is and to speak to her concerns.

Hans: It is much easier to answer 'yes' or 'no' than filling up a screen with C&Ps in a vain attempt to avoid the question.

Let's try again:

Have you ever made a declaration or statement of fact that you later reneged on?

a) yes
b) no

You cowardly avoidance of this question is quite amusing. What is even more amusing is that you think that spamming will somehow hide your hypocrisy. It in fact, underscores it. LOL. Truly amazing that you don't see that.

"...and at the national level, most Dems are too busy sneering at rural voters to figure out how to make a connection with them."

And Republicans are too busy sneering at urban, suburban and exurban voters to figure out how to make a connection with them.

"Real America" voters sound familiar?

Hans

"Let's try again:"

Teenager didn't "renege" on a message posted for all to see. He was, in 101's words, a man of your word.

Why he didn't even equivocate and announce on a public bulletin board "Besides, I did leave... For two weeks.".

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping, like a 53 year old man. Something this 53 year old man has never done.

Nope. He left for good.

Impressive.

LOL!

Hans

"You cowardly avoidance of this question is quite amusing."

I always find it more than amusing to be called a coward by people who hide behind made-up monikers.

Hans

No hans, we are not talking about teenager. This question is addressed to you.

Have you ever renegged on anything you've said? Have you changed your mind on a declaration?

a) yes
b) no

It is so simple that I would think that even your small mind could wrap yourself around it instead of deflecting to a 3 year old post.

I always find it more than amusing to be called a coward by people who hide behind made-up monikers,

You must get a lot of thrills from this place. I can think of only a handful of people who use their real names. I'll bet you are on the floor lauging like hell whenever you see dethspud. Not only a made up name, but a totally plastic persona to go along with it. I don't see comedy in that, but simple things for simple minds.

BTW, have you ever in your life renegged on something you said?

a) yes
b) no

"No hans, we are not talking about teenager.

It seems that a teenager has more integrity than a 53 year old "man."

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping, like a 53 year old "man." Something this 53 year old man has never done.

Hans

Hans: Have you ever renegged on something you declared to another person?

a) yes
b) no

LOL

"I'll bet you are on the floor lauging like hell whenever you see dethspud."

Can't seem to remember when Dethspud called me a coward. Hard to be "lauging" over that.

Hans

Hans. Here. Try to keep up. I'll keep it simple.

Forget the teenager
(still with me?)
consider the following question:
(focus, hans, focus)
Have you ever said something that you later renegged on?
(quick! Answer before the teenager pops up again)
a) yes
(focus, hans, focus!)
b) no

I hope I didn't go too fast for you. I hoped I helped you focus on the question. LOL

Can't seem to remember when Dethspud called me a coward.

Cool. I'll bet he would if saw you tapdancing around this question:

So hans, have you ever said anything that you later took back?

a) yes
b) no

"Have you ever renegged on something you declared to another person?"

When it comes to public bulletin boards it appears that you have:

"I am leaving for good"
Meanwhile, It seems that a teenager has more integrity than a 53 year old "man."

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping, like a 53 year old "man." Something this 53 year old man has never done.

LOL! Who's laughing now? ;0)

Hans

Have you ever made a declaration or statement of fact that you later reneged on?

a) yes
b) no

"Have you ever made a declaration or statement of fact that you later reneged on?"

When it comes to public bulletin boards it appears that you have:

"I am leaving for good
Meanwhile, It seems that a teenager has more integrity than a 53 year old "man."

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping, like a 53 year old "man." Something this 53 year old man has never done.

LOL! Who's laughing now? ;0)

Hans

LOL! Who's laughing now? ;0)

I am. I've never seen such a hypocrite or anyone so afraid of such a simple question. I can practically smell the piss running down your leg whenever I ask it.

have you ever said anything that you renegged on later?

a) yes
b) no

LOL. Yes, I am laughing now. Everytime you fail to answer that question, I laugh my ass off. LOL What a coward.

HANS

Goatman left because someone was using his late wife in very hurtful ways. I don't blame him. I was also one who emailed him (because he was a pretty new poster) to say, "come back and don't let the bedbugs bite ya".

As someone who's also had personal loss used against them here ... I know how it feels....not good at all. I'd been around a few months at the time than Goatman had.

In this case I don't blame Goatman for either leaving or coming back.

AU :-)

"have you ever said anything that you renegged on later?"

When it comes to public bulletin boards it appears that you have:

"I am leaving for good
Meanwhile, It seems that a teenager has more integrity than a 53 year old "man."

He wasn't so stupid as to make asinine declarations on a public bulletin board he had no intention of keeping, like a 53 year old "man." Something this 53 year old man has never done.

LOL! Who's laughing now? ;0)

Hans

Well, I've more than made my point. You are a class 'a' hypocrite. You tell people to 'live in the now' as you pull up 3 year olds of your magic hard drive.

You have indeed reneged on things you have said (we all have, no big deal) but you refuse to admit it. More hypocrisy.

The best you can respond with is that I am human and changed my mind. Wow. What an insult. LOL

Now go 'live in the now' ye who pretends he has never changed his mind or renegged. Something good is cooking and it now holds my interest far more than continually rubbing your nose in your hypocrisy.

You may now point out my very human qualities that we have all been guilty of at one time or another in our respective lives. DOn't forget to spam teenager's post when you do it. LOL

You're a hoot, hans. LOL

And Republicans are too busy sneering at urban, suburban and exurban voters to figure out how to make a connection with them. -- #29 | Posted by Hans

Talk to Arianna. Here are today's lead stories from HuffPo's "Living" Page:

"The Balanced Life: 6 Steps to Feeling Less Overwhelmed...":

...I am a divine being in human form doing Life Coaching and I still get plagued by fear and challenges. My training has helped deepen self awareness and connection with spirit. This supports me in managing my stuff...

"Relationships: How to Find Happiness in 14 Words."

"The Inner Life -- New Year's Wish: A National Boost of Self-Esteem."

"Vegan Living:..."

"How to Host a Dinner Party."

"Six Reasons We Have Bad Dreams."

etc., etc.

"Real America" voters sound familiar? -- #29 | Posted by Hans

Yes, thank goodness. And I'll take them over the vapid narcissists HuffPo's Living page is directed to any day.

"In this case I don't blame Goatman for either leaving or coming back."

AU, it isn't the leaving and then coming back.

It is the lack of integrity to announce the return in a drama queen post as he did his departure:

"I am leaving for good
...then with the "justification" of "Besides, I did leave... For two weeks.".

...combined with claiming others have no integrity (or are liars).

Plus, you'll notice that in this thread I didn't address him whatsoever until he butted in with this post.

Hans

AU, even now he claims "You are a class 'a' hypocrite."

This from the person who announced in a thread he created::

"I am leaving for good"
And I'm the hypocrite.

AU, I could care less what drama queen, tear-jerking reason he had for "leaving." I am more than willing to steer a wide berth around this hypocrite.

Why don't you give him that clue.

Hans

HANS

I don't blame him. GOATMAN's wife died from cancer and a couple posters here were really going overboard over it in a bad way.

As someone who lost my mom and sister this year (which was used by 101ST and a couple others for "Fun") it isn't any fun to the recipient, no matter how much sick fucks think it is for them.

I don't think Krugman went far enough in his indictment of the Bush Administration, though, and I think he went too far by lumping all Republicans together.

~Phoenix

Agreed and agreed.

People who dismiss the Bush administration as incompetent do so by thinking about its effects on the welfare of the country and/or world as a whole. As Krugman astutely notes, though, the Bushes have always been an "Our people vs. Those people" crowd -- although I'd argue that the dividing line is as much about class as it is about race.

Spud's been saying fer a while now that Bush's planned malfeasance has been thinly disguised as incompetance and Spud would argue that class actually plays a much bigger role than race in terms of setting the GOP agenda but that race has been such an integral part of past republican victories (from the onset of the original southern strategy right up to the 'McCain's black baby' thing in 2000) that the lines there tend to get blurry as well.

His indifference to the suffering of Americans displaced by Katrina, as well as Barbara Bush's horrifying remarks at the time urbanlegends.about.com were an obvious indicator.

As obvious as they were odious.

But also, keep in mind that he engineered a remarkable power grab for HIS executive branch and bolstered support for extremists like Ahmadinejad and recruitment for groups like Al Qaeda (remember, Repubs win when Americans think we need hawks in office).

The enhanced supreme executive was really more Cheney's baby than Bush. Bush was little more than a meat puppet there. Bush's "success" as a "War President" in term of popular support encouraged his extremism which as you rightly state encouraged other extremists around the globe. Rethugs win when Americans can't think poast their fear state. The conventional wisdom that the GOP are "better" in a military crisis has been as thoroughly debunked as the "fiscal conservative" lie by the last eight years but still a lot of people buy in.

Halliburton is aslosh with untraceable "reconstruction" money, and oil companies have enjoyed huge windfall profits and increased support for drilling ANYWHERE. Perhaps most remarkably of all, he convinced a Democratic Congress to sign off on a $700B transfer of wealth from ordinary Americans to the very wealthy, leaving them unable to say much about the Fed's transfer of another $2 trillion -- a money grab so astonishing that Fox News is demanding an investigation and filing charges under FOIA.

Literally the crime of century.

She's not Republican because she's racist -- far from it. She's Republican because Huffington's liberals have not left their limousines long enough to find out who she is and to speak to her concerns.

Breaking through the rural/urban divide (or Real American versus Fake American in Palinspeak) is the greatest single challenge to the Dem party today.

These mostly low-info rural voters are embraced by the GOP through their God, Guns, and Anti-Gay rhetoric which, sadly, still finds far too much resonance.

Spud finds a lot of the anti-gun rhetoric on the left to be unneccessarily shrill and divisive. The God thing is a bit of a puzzlement as the vast majority of Dems like the vast majority of GOPhers are church going Christians but the largely fictional rhetoric from the right that the Dems are anti-God and hate Christmas still seems to find traction. The gay rights thing seems to be the deal breaker fer both sides. Spud sees Gay Civil rights as this generations equivilant of earlier generations seeking civil rights for minorities and women and the abolitionist movement. Others disagree most vehemently.

The disconnect between both parties "class free society" rhetoric and their obviously elitist policies just becomes more and more obvious over time.

Sad is that.

Nice chat.

Be Well.

This from the person who announced in a thread he created::

"I am leaving for good"
And I'm the hypocrite.

AU, I could care less what

English lesson hans:

Hypocrisy is when you tell someone to do something, but don't do it yourself. So if I had told you or someone else to leave, but did not do so myself, I would be a hypocrite.

But by declaring myself gone, then coming back is not hypocrisy. That is called fickleness and we all as humans have done it.

Glad I was able to add a new word (at least the correct usage of it) to your vocabulary. No charge.

To further clarify:

If I was to tell someone to 'live in the now' but based my entire blog schtick on living in the past, I would be a hypocrite.

So far, Hans has proven me to be human -- I am guilty of changing my mind.

I have proven has a hypocrite with his 'live in the now'. I have proven him a coward by proving he will not answer a simple question of whether he has done the same human thing I did.

Let's see: What would I rather be? Someone who changed his mind, or a hypocrite and a coward?

I know my choice and hans knows his.

I wish dinner was better. The oysters were over battered.

"GOATMAN's wife died from cancer and a couple posters here were really going overboard over it in a bad way."

AU, I (and I suspect, many others) don't give a sh*t about other posters' personal trials and tribulations. As far as I'm concerned the only reason for creating an entire pity thread was for just that reason: pity.

I am one of very few people here who others can find out who I really am, including my family. The rest, including goatman? For all anyone really knows they're making it up.

Don't want sick fucks to make fun of it ("it isn't any fun to the recipient, no matter how much sick fucks think it is for them") you have two choices:

Keep quiet about your personal life or present the truth for those who wish to look it up and accept whatever they say about you (and, yes, I am bald). But you'll notice I've never gone all maudlin over anything which has happened in my private life.

This is the Drudge Retort, not MySpace.

Hans

Hans-
You are being a jerk.

HANS

This was GOATMAN's (and mine) first experience blogging. I had no idea there were so many morons in the world that knew how to use a computer. Takes all kinds. Again, I totally understand his move. He explained himself well.

What's funny is the people who are the most abusive get a pass from most of the posters here. I'm sure RCADE loses a lot of traffic he's get if a handful of people were banned (as one was who was allowed back) forever.

AU

"But by declaring myself gone, then coming back is not hypocrisy. That is called fickleness and we all as humans have done it."

Oops:

Why not just be a man of your word...
Hans

AU, I (and I suspect, many others) don't give a sh*t about other posters' personal trials and tribulations

???

A democrat who does not care about others' trials and tribulations? My what a rara avis we have here in hans! LOL

HANS

Neither GOATMAN or I made a big deal out of any of it. They was casual mentions. In my case, late at night when the assholes who threw it up for months were no where near this site - but trolled for something to BE and asshole about.

Let it go, please.

ooops Why not just answer the question?

Have you ever renegged on something you have said? (I have)

a) yes
b) no

LOL

"You are being a jerk."

Oops:

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-02 09:15 PM
I suppose I should have just let that go, right BetelG?

Hans

AU -- good advice. I'm dropping it now. Thanks for the level headed input and advice

"Let it go, please."

Why are you addressing that exclusively to me???

#60 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-02 11:59 PM
Hans

AU, what was that addressed exclusively to me?

Hans

HANS

Is isn't the first time you've posted the "I'm leaving" stuff.

I think you're cool, I think GOATMAN's cool (we've hung out).

No biggie. Just time to forget all about it.

I'm glad 2008 is over. Maybe this subject should be too (unless you see someone like 101ST going places he shouldn't go LOL)

Happy 2009!!

AU :-)

Oh, and we'll have a hoot too when I come to Florida this winter.

"Is isn't the first time you've posted the "I'm leaving" stuff."

And I did not address goatman until his #12 directly attacking me.

Why was your "let it go" addressed exclusively to me???????????????????????

Hans

"Just time to forget all about it."

That's fine.

But how am I supposed to address another #12 bolt out of the blue? Ignore it?

Hans

Hans-
I have a special place in my "wanna kick your ass" spot for posters who seem to think going after family is the same as fair, though forceful, antagonism.

"I have a special place in my "wanna kick your ass" spot for posters who seem to think going after family is the same as fair, though forceful, antagonism."

Considering that I've been the recipient of that, including in RL, I'm surprised at your exclusiveness.

Hans

HANS

I didn't read the whole thread, and haven't been following this particular, uh, round. I picked it up about the "I'm leaving", "Live in the now" part.

Probably should have just kept my mouth shut, but because GOATMAN left for the reasons he did (which you may not have been aware of) I jumped in, having been a recipient in recent months over losses I had in my personal life that hurt very badly too.

Hey, you're alright HANS.

Peace (and headbands)

HANS

Here's a happy thought to ponder:

17 days, 11 hours, and 46 minutes until Bush is fucking gone!

(I was just hoping the "Bush Countdown Clock" I bought years ago would keep working until then LOL)

It is!

Yee Haw!!!!

After listening to the Democrats for the last 8 years the republicans would have to work overtime just to get on the radar.

I mean some of the shit you demtards cried about is just hilarious. Things like

Bush stole Florida. Actually a consortium of newspapers counted every ballot possible and Bush Still won. Oh, and the crying over the Supreme Court stopping a selective recount of heavily democratic counties just broke my poor little heart.

Bush fired 8 Justice department appointees. Actually Clinton fired 99 but then who is counting.

Who outed Valerie Plame lets behead them. Then when the actual leakers name was known you kept ignoring that and just wanted certain officials because you hate republicans and Bush.

A Jobless recovery. We had to hear every democrat whine about that one for nearly 2 years yet actually the average unemployment rate under Bush was better than it was under Clinton.

Bush stole Ohio in 2004. Even Kerry dropped this one after only 24 hours. Bush won by over 200,000 votes. Now if you want to see an election stolen look to Al Franken or the democrat governor of Washington State. They would make Bill Daley blush.

Bush don't care about the black people of New Orleans. Bush declared an emergency almost a day before Katrina hit yet Ray Nagin and the democrat governor of Louisiana sat on their asses and did nothing. Ray Nagin didn't even let the city buses roll when it was called for in his emergency evacuation plan. Also lets not forget how Clintons FEMA did almost nothing for 30 days after hurricane Floyd hit North Carolina.

Poor old terrorists at Guantanemo. Yes lets just give them all a hug and a day at Disney World that should fix things right away. Hey, how about making them citizens then they can vote for the democrat party.

Fags can't marry in California. Poor old gays have to go back in the closet for a little while longer. Always a brides maid and never a bride.

Oil companies are making money. Yes, thats the way it works when you invest billions of dollars you are generally supposed to make billions. Oh, and lets not forget good old Walmart. You would think Walmart was killing baby seals and feeding the meat to PETA.

and last but not least is the coup de gracie! GLOBAL WARMING. Yes, its .1 of a degree hotter today than 100 years ago, Whoopty fuckin do. Al Gore says lick his boots and you buttmunchers line up on hands and knees. I never seen a bigger scam ran on such a dumb bunch of losers than Global Warming. I'd rather invest my money with Madoff than buy into this farce.

17 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes the nightmare will be over

"Bush fired 8 Justice department appointees. Actually Clinton fired 99 but then who is counting."

Except Bush fired 8 which he had appointed in the middle of a term. For what the DOJ has admitted is a lie, yet won't tell us the real truth.

"Who outed Valerie Plame lets behead them. Then when the actual leakers name was known you kept ignoring that and just wanted certain officials because you hate republicans and Bush."

Whereas total idiots never seemed to fully understand it's not just the first one who outs a CIA NOC who has broken the law, but everyone who outs her.

"Ray Nagin..."

Was a life-long Republican until he ran for mayor of NO.

"Fags can't marry in California. Poor old gays have to go back in the closet for a little while longer. Always a brides maid and never a bride."

Ya gotta admire someone who proudly wears his intolerance and bigotry on his sleeve.

americanunity, the nightmare is all in your mind. Of the course the democrats did fuck up this economy and that want be fixed any time soon.

BUZ

Based on your posts you're flat OUT of your mind.

17 days, 10 hours, 42 minutes!

(I forgot about EST vs CST there)

So, it's an HOUR SOONER THAN I THOUGHT !!!!

Enjoy the political desert. You all earned it.

"Of the course the democrats did fuck up this economy..."

Bwahahahaha! Can you name one banking or financial bill in the last decade written by Democrats?

"... and that want be fixed any time soon."

Yeah, it probably "want".

Crackpipejunkiebuzkillerflopea
rsistoastobamanigermethpud is flinging feces again? What a surprise. This blast from the past is good for a few chuckles.

www.drudge.com

Paul Krugman is a true jerk. This was proved by that most liberal Norwegian Nobel Prize committee who also saw fit to give Arafat, Carter, Gore and other global misfits each $1 million tax free dollars and a piece of paper. I honestly do not know what these characters did for the peace and well-being of the world. Does anybody?

Is there anybody really just learning now that rightwingers are the whiniest bitches in America? (To say nothing about how stupid they tend to be.)#3 | Posted by moder8 at 2009-01-02 06:34 PM | Reply

Yes, many Repubs are serious whiners.

Many Dems are serious whiners.

Many of our entire country are whiners.

Our modern world is sooo good compared to any other era, we should STFU!

We complain about the economy--but ask your grandparents how it was when they were your age.

Our taxes are very low compared to much of the world.

Our cars and computers are affordable, safe and reliable.

We whine about the war in Iraq, 5,000 is a lot of people to die in 5 years---but 7,700 Americans died IN ONE DAY on D-Day!

Who amongst us DOESN'T have a cellphone (or two!), DOESN'T have a computer (or two!), DOESN'T have a t.v. (Or two!), DOESN'T have a car (or two!)?

Shoot, even the poorest amongst us usually have the above. Being "poor" in America is rich compared to the rest of the world.

Christians whine about their waning influence, yet HALF of all the broadcast t.v. Channels here are ONLY Christian programmming, and there are NO broadcast channels for other religions or atheists--stop whining!
...And the Bible is STILL the most sold book EVERY YEAR--it destroys Harry Potter.

Everybody, stop whining!

A few more...

Republicans have dance with joy have George W Bush as President for 8 years; we now need to STFU and not whine under Obama for 4-8 years. Dems and others lived through W (but boyyyyeee were THEY whiners!), WE Repubs can make it.

Oh, and one more for Christian whiners--1st century Christians were thrown to lions and used as human torches on the way to the Coliseum. It CAN'T be that bad under Obama, now can it?

I honestly do not know what these characters did for the peace and well-being of the world. Does anybody?
TRUTHISGOOD - perhaps you would like to add Mother Theresa, Nelson Mandela and Henry Kissinger to that list?

Re #84. I would have voted to give Mother Theresa $1 million that she could spend on the deserving poor of the poorest; Nelson Mandela - - OK, but I believe President W. Bush spent more (of our taxes) and saved more Afican lives in the past 8 years than Mandela ever did in his lifetime. I can nearly guarantee W won't get a Nobel peace prize regardless of what happens in Iraq (of course we hope hope for the best). As far as Henry Kissinger, what is his lasting legacy? As I recall he and Arafat split the Nobel Peace prize.

(To say nothing about how stupid they tend to be.)#
for proof see
www.conservapedia.com

yes, it is not satire, they really are that stupid.

Krugman is nothing more than a New York Slime lacky. He wouldn't know the facts if they hit him in the ass.

I've said this repeatedly: There are two types of republicans: rich and stupid.

Dumb ass inbred mother-fuckers...

SHAWN: Your an ASSHOLE. Are you going tell me that your scum sucking buddy Soros is poor. What about the ASSHOLE Kennedys, you JERK OFF.

reinheitsgebot, you sure are one crazy nut case. You must have a hard on for this person. Some kind of gay fixation.

He wouldn't know the facts if they hit him in the ass.

I forget, Oozzie, your Nobel Prize is for what, exactly? Buffoonery?

Bwahahahaha! Can you name one banking or financial bill in the last decade written by Democrats?

Bwaaaahaaaaa! LOL! Can you name one banking or financial bill in the last decade democrats didn't vote for?

LOL!

Stupid democratic party delusional supporters, they get all up in the tree and never see the forest.

We are in for a world of hurt for the next two years and than at least a republican congress will be put back in power. The democratic party majority will hurt the middle class far more than any president.

Gas tax.......LOL! Reverse Robin hood all over again, steal from the poor and give to the rich......this is what we have to look forward to with this democratic party majority.

The democrats are the biggest bunch of whining crying moaners anyone could ever witness.

Spend years whining about the decline of the middle class and what do they do when they finally gain the power to effectly make a change.....create more downing policy money stealing from the middle class.

Why do you think your Chinese masters bother to deal with you?

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2009-01-02 06:45 PM | Reply |

I pay my rent, you senile, pathetic loser. The only Chinese "master" I have is the lady who manages my apartment building. I pay the rent and my 'master' hears hell from me or my wife when the water is cold.

Get a new act, you pathetic loser. You lost this argument a year ago, but you are too stoopid to know it, you pathetic, drunk, senile loser.

I pay my rent
#95 | Posted by vernon

Good for you, Vermin. And special, too, only if you think that's odd, paying your own rent. I could've guessed that on my own, though, knowing that a broken down old gasbag like you could hardly be a "kept man."

You must really amuse the bejeebers out of your Chinese masters, Vermin. I mean, all that spitting, dancing around, and gesticulating. Kind of like a masturbatory monkey in a bamboo cage.

" Can you name one banking or financial bill in the last decade democrats didn't vote for?"

Bwahahahahaha! Can you name one banking or financial bill in the last decade the Republicans didn't author?!?

"We are in for a world of hurt for the next two years and than at least a republican congress will be put back in power."

Wanna bet?

Wanna bet?

Posted by Danforth at 2009-01-03 09:26 PM |

What does it matter? It will be business as usual no matter who controls congress.

Most people here amuse the hell out of me pretending that 'their' side has all the answers and if would only listen and exclusively adhere to their respective parties doctrines the world will be peachy.

Nothing if further from the truth. In order to make this country run smoothly, it will take a full bi-partisian effort.

This country, and especially the small subset reprented here remind me of the a scene from the Monty Python movie, "The Life of Brian" where the two opposing liberating factions are fighting under Pilate's house in an identical plot to kidnap his wife:

(amidst the fighting)
"We should be struggling together!"
"We are"

Sounds like the DR, doesn't it?

"Most people here amuse the hell out of me pretending that 'their' side has all the answers"

I'm not about to pretend the Dems have any answers at all. But neither am I going to pretend the Republicans didn't have their shot, nor will I pretend they didn't blow it.

Everyone blew it.

"Everyone blew it."

Yeah, but I passed a civics class. And I've been in hundreds of RROR meetings. I know who calls the shots, and how governance works. And I believe with ultimate authority comes ultimate responsibility. Those not laying the blame for this mess squarely at the feet of the party in power are apologists or clueless.

For example, the SEC had complaints against Madoff---that his investment firm was a Ponzi scheme---every year Bush was in office. Was that "everyone" who blew it, or just the party of responsibility?

The Fed is a ponzi scheme...

The enhanced supreme executive was really more Cheney's baby than Bush.

Good point. Ironic, isn't it, since we all know the VP is part of the legislative, not executive, branch? ;-)

The conventional wisdom that the GOP are "better" in a military crisis has been as thoroughly debunked as the "fiscal conservative" lie by the last eight years but still a lot of people buy in.

I'm not sure the issue is really managing a military crisis. Instead, I think too many people want to hear "We're the U.S. F--- with us and you're dead" when they perceive a threat, and that fits better with Republicans' law-and-order message than with Dems' peaceful coexistence line. It will be interesting to see if Obama chooses to exercise some of those vaunted oratory/leadership skills here, or continues the increasingly macho trajectory of his campaign season rhetoric.

Breaking through the rural/urban divide (or Real American versus Fake American in Palinspeak) is the greatest single challenge to the Dem party today.

Yeah, I agree -- not only because I think it's the right thing to do, but because I think Dem gains will be short-lived unless they do.

These mostly low-info rural voters are embraced by the GOP through their God, Guns, and Anti-Gay rhetoric which, sadly, still finds far too much resonance.

Spud finds a lot of the anti-gun rhetoric on the left to be unneccessarily shrill and divisive.

I don't think either side has a clue how the other lives or thinks. In cities, the gun issue is about street crime, gangs, guns in schools, etc. In rural areas, they're security for people who live a lot farther apart and often don't have much police protection. For some of my students' families, hunting isn't just sport -- it's a way of putting food on the table in tough times.

The God thing is a bit of a puzzlement as the vast majority of Dems like the vast majority of GOPhers are church going Christians...

Dems have been too afraid to talk about values, imo. Maybe I missed it, but I was surprised that "Judge not, lest ye be judged" was not one of the bible quotes cited in the DR's lengthy debate about homosexuality. Seems like it should be possible to deride the politics of right-wing fundamentalism as a Church Lady approach to values -- i.e., as not being about personal responsibility (don't let the GOP own that phrase!), but about finger-pointing. It also seems like it should be possible to make the connections between Dem values and small-town values clearer -- e.g., to talk about what it means to be a good neighbor, about a commitment to community, etc. etc.

The gay rights thing seems to be the deal breaker fer both sides

I think it's a mistake to draw inferences about support for gay rights based on the gay marriage battle. Public opinion on civil unions and gay marriage, for example, is dramatically different. Remember, the American public loved Will and Grace and Brokeback Mountain. It may be too late for this (I'm thinking about the role he plays in his new tv series), but I would have guessed that the gay rights movement could have drummed up huge support for things like adding non-discrimination against gays to the EEO clause just by hiring Eric McCormack for a few tv ads.

Nice chat. Be Well. -- #50 | Posted by dethspud

Back at ya.

Those not laying the blame for this mess squarely at the feet of the party in power are apologists or clueless.

Ah, yes, "party in power". I've seen it change many times on the DR: Is it congress or the president? Depends on if it is a good thing, bad thing, and the party of the person opining.

Also, most economists will agree that a president has little if any control over natural economic cycles. Indeed, almost every president has experienced at least one economic downturn in his term.

"Is it congress or the president?"

Well, when one party controls all three branches for 6 years, the question becomes moot.

As it does when the minority party then more than doubles the record for filibusters in the last two years.

Like I said...I passed a civics class.

"almost every president has experienced at least one economic downturn in his term."

But it took Bush to have this massive and unprecedented Bust & Bailout. Don't kid yourself: this isn't like other "downturns" in other terms.

C'mon Goatman. Be honest. The fiascos of the last years are GWBs baby. It is so obvious that attempts to blow smoke are laughable. These have been the Bush years.

"Also, most economists will agree that a president has little if any control over natural economic cycles."

hence starting wars doesn't affect economics cycles or aren't they natural?

"C'mon Goatman. Be honest."

Wha?!?

Responsibility from "the party of responsibiity"? Quelle horrors!

But it took Bush to have this massive and unprecedented Bust & Bailout. Don't kid yourself: this isn't like other "downturns" in other terms.

OK. I'll bite because I have to know. Did Bush force the common man home-buyers and make them buy stupid unaffordable mortgages, or did he force the mortgage lenders to make the bad loans?

C'mon Goatman. Be honest. The fiascos of the last years are GWBs baby

There's enough blame for everyone. The stage was being set before W came to office.

Bullshit. Clinton left GWB a thriving economy, a very accomplished terrorist chief (Clarke), and a unified upbeat nation. GWB and the GOPhers fucked it all up.

"The stage was being set before W came to office."

You can't be serious. This all began after 9/11, with the housing bubble and ludicrously low interest rates, and all because Bush & Greenspan wanted to defy the natural business cycles and refused to be at the helm during a recession. "Before W came to office" we had close to a balanced budget, and true balanced budgets delivered to Bush's doorstep. Bush had maybe a once-in-a-century opportunity to shore up some problems. Instead, we have the largest debts known to man since the dawn of time, a multi-trillion dollar war, and multi-trillion dollar bailout.

You didn't answer my 110, Danforth. Please forgive the italics problem.

Clinton left GWB a thriving economy,...

Yep, and as history shows, the more robust an economy in its upcycle, the harder fall during the down cycle. It should've been been reigned in a little more.

But I don't blame Clinton for the overheated economy. It was a part of the natural economic cylcle that coincided with suddenly dirt cheap bandwitdth which in turn sparked the dot com boom. The perfect storm for a runaway economy. Then add to that the easy to get mortgates thanks to freddie and fannie.

Yeah, everyone claps and applauds because the are doing so well, but only the most foolish thinks that an economy soaring at such heights can be maintained.

The whiner is Krugman.

Since dot.com companies were on the NASDAQ exchange they weren't responsible for anything the DOW did. They were a small sector of the NASDAQ in any event.

A far larger problem for CitiGroup and other lending institutions is credit card debt. The set up booths at college campuses and bombarded every home in America with "0% interest" offers.

Of course, companies that did that like CitiGroup received bailouts - $35 billion in CitiGroup's case.

Until 2000 I'd never seen mortgage companies bombard the mail with equity line and refi offers. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wanted to open a mortgage company did. They let anyone get a mortgage - without proper documentation of income or by telling people they qualifed whether or not a traditional loan would have been given them - all the while knowing they were just going to sell it and make it someone else's problem anyway. What did they care?

This just didn't happen until Gramm snuck in those 250 pages in the 10,000 page Omnibus bill of 1999

Republican Senator Phil Gramm gutted the "Glass-Stegal Act" put in place after the Great Depression to protect this type of corruption and fraud from ever happening again. Gramm got rid of it and allowed this whole subprime mess, credit defaults, etc. to take off. Also at fault is Bill Clinton's guy Rubin (and I'm not too thrilled with Obama having him around on the team), but the reason we are in this mess today belongs in good part to Republican Senator Gramm.

The link below is an easy read on how Gramm snuck in 250 pages into a must-pass 10,000 page budget bill and opened the door for our economic Armaggedon. You don't need to be a financial wizard to understand it.

Senator Phil Gramm's disasterous experiment in "deregulation" responsible for a good portion of the economic trouble today

It's simple to understand "deregulation." Just think about it for a minute. "Regulations" set up the RULES which a agency (or bank, or mortgage company, or any other business or government agency) must follow. If you "deregulate" it you literally GET RID OF all the rules. No rules -- then it's a free for all for fraud and crooked dealings.

Bush's "free trade" with finance, business, you name it all boiled down to mean "deregulation" -- NO rules, NO laws, NADA.

Democrat Christopher Dodd should be ridden out of town on a rail along with Phil Gramm. Why aren't both these men being thrown out of office?

"Did Bush force the common man home-buyers and make them buy stupid unaffordable mortgages, or did he force the mortgage lenders to make the bad loans?"

No...he was merely the steward as the SEC and all the other regulators were neutered, and stood by as Lehman leveraged itself 100-1. So...pass the buck as far as you want.

"Then add to that the easy to get mortgates thanks to freddie and fannie."

Greenspan and the Fed had more to do with it than either FMs.

"the more robust an economy in its upcycle, the harder fall during the down cycle. It should've been been reigned in a little more."

Oh, now you're just making shit up.

"Why aren't both these men being thrown out of office?"

Better question: Why aren't both these men, and everyone else who got us in this embezzled mess, being lined up and shot?

Better question: Why aren't both these men, and everyone else who got us in this embezzled mess, being lined up and shot?

#120 | Posted by Danforth

you are bringing out the zionist/nazi/nwo killer part of me, too, here

Oh, now you're just making shit up.

Hardly. Probably the best known example is the segue from the roaring twenties (one of the hottest economic 'ups' ever) into the Great Depression. But at any rate, graphs don't lie.

www.ldusa.com

But you're suggesting breaks should be put on all expansions. Do you actually believe that, and if so, what would be your parameters for shackling?

breaks = brakes

But you're suggesting breaks should be put on all expansions.

I never said 'all' did I? In fact if you read my post I said I did not blame Clinton for the overheated economy.

Not having a PhD in economics and only a layman's understanding, I don't pretend that I would lay out the parameters that would precede a tightening of credit. But doesn't the fed usually look strongly at inflation and an abnormally large increase in in GDP as well as very low unemployment?

"I never said 'all' did I?"

So you're going to pick and choose in the middle of the particular expansion?!? How will you tell overheating from solid growth?

"But doesn't the fed usually look strongly at inflation and an abnormally large increase in in GDP as well as very low unemployment?"

Sure. And they do what they can. But they couldn't stave off the Bush Bust & Bailout.

And they do what they can. But they couldn't stave off the Bush Bust & Bailout.

I'm enjoying the debate, (economics fascincates me) but if you want to turn it into something partisian, I'm not really interested.

Bush is not solely to blame. there is plenty of blame on both sides of the political aisle.

"Bush is not solely to blame. there is plenty of blame on both sides of the political aisle."

Yes, but let's not ignore reality, and who writes the laws. The Dems are certainly to blame as well, but from all my committee experience, I know the minority is lucky if they get control over 10% of the final wording. If you're not blaming the Republicans mostly, you're not paying attention, or you're drinking the koolaide. If they wrote 90% of the laws, they deserve 90% of the credit. Or the blame, in this case.

Too often, idiots who don't have the vaguest clue how RROR meetings shape will blame a minority member, when anyone with a clue knows a minority member in an oppo-party committee has power only slightly north of a fart in a windstorm.

"Krugman will probably take a bunch of hits here,"

I doubt it. I predict that most Conservatives will ignore this thread -- or perhpas come here to tweak you.

Krugman has done nothing but string.......BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

As for his Nobel, or Gore's (or Carter's for that matter) nobody really cares........BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BTW, it's halfwits on the Left (Drunk_Sarvis) who........BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

#4 | Posted by vernon at 2009-01-02 06:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I guess we know which category Vernon falls into; 'Tweaker'.

I believe that's what they call meth-heads.

Check me if I'm wrong, but the Republican Party is done for at least a decade. It wasn't like a split decision or a field goal with 10 seconds left to play; the Republicans lost the US House of Representative, the US Senate, and the Presidency in only two years.

Americans can, by and large, read and do simple arithmetic. Americans have decided they were not getting ANY kind of effective governance from the Republicans, and are now giving the Democrats a chance to run the show. If Barack Obama and the Democrats manage to not make any serious missteps in the next few months, the Republicans are doomed to be an ineffective, regional political party with a dying and disaffected voter base.

You want to talk about race? In the Southern United States the demographic majority is rapidly becoming Black and Brown. Again, Americans can read and do simple arithmetic. They know when they have been cheated and lied to, and they want a reckoning.

Democrats did not kill the Republican Party. Cognitive Dissonance created by decades of lying and stealing killed the Grand Old Party.

#130 | Posted by john47

Well put.

A New York imes writer.. Well then it must be true. I thought they were going under?

Is there even a difference between the two sides anymore? It seems to me that the only differences are shown between those of us that actually have to work for a living... Everyone else that is in politics they are only what they need to be to advance in the political realm... whether it's in the federal government or in our city governments...

As far as whining goes, both sides are particularly good at it... it's just the losing side that seems to be the loudest.

currently there is one good thing about Republicans, they are in the minority!

Wait till Obama takes a centrist position in governing our country. The biggest whiners are gonna be the ultra liberal, and they whine louder and more obnoxiously than any group on earth.

They will feel "betrayed" when they discover that we won't be moving even more rapidly towards a socialist state than we are now. It will be highly entertaining... and the GOP will be back in power quicker than you can say "Marx."

If anyone wonders why I call Republicans RTARDS, read Sodomyco's post.

This pinhead thinks that by Obama not being ultra liberal, that the far left liberals are going to vote Rtard next time.

What a fucking loser!!! This explains why Moosefucker was such a popular VP choice. She was almost as stupid as her supporters.

Sodomyco, the GOP will never win another election.....EVER!!! Your sainted hero, Smirky the Wonder Chimp is go down in more ways than one as the LAST RTARD PRESIDENT.

You fucking morons will have to vote for the Batshit-Crazy-Crack-Whore candidate next time. Or maybe resurrect the Whigs or something.

Best way to deal with unrepentant Bush supporters and other sundry proud Republicans: ignore them. From this day forward. Treat them as what they are, irrelevant. They fucked us. Will not take an ounce of responsibility. Continue to spout their detrimental, faux-patriotic, and truly elitist, BS. They do not have the nations interests at heart. And they are not in power. So -- ignore them and watch them implode.

Began with Schiavo. Just leave a repub to their own devices and they will self immolate in their own sickness. Because they... Oh, shit, I forgot whom I was talking about... What's their name again? Shit...

King Z,

That's a good approach for you more refined, level headed people, but I prefer public humiliation for the bastards.

I think we should round up everyone who voted Republican in the last 8 years, brand a big 'R' on their foreheads and offer a 50 cent bounty anytime someone kicks one of them in the ass.

Oh, and their tax rates should be double that of real people for the next 25 years or so.

"the GOP will never win another election.....EVER!!! Your sainted hero, Smirky the Wonder Chimp is go down in more ways than one as the LAST RTARD PRESIDENT."

Just wait retard. The libs will put up some bat-shit crazy third party candidate (which you, moron, will vote for) and split the vote handing over presidency to GOP. Can't wait to see your contorted face when it happens.

"Just wait retard. The libs will put up some bat-shit crazy third party candidate (which you, moron, will vote for) and split the vote handing over presidency to GOP. Can't wait to see your contorted face when it happens."

Yep. That's what happens in American politics. One side's up, then the other.

Meanwhile, I wonder how that whole Fight to Create a Permanent Republican Majority thing is coming along.

;0)

Hans

Hans - The effort has, admittedly, stalled. Bush is no fiscal conservative and has botched things badly (to say the least). Some others in the party are truly stuck on social conservatism, and there has been scandal. Hannity's hysterics don't help either.

But, I think when you have power in both Congress and the Presidency, the mandate quickly evaporates.

"The effort has, admittedly, stalled."

Somoco - The main point of my #139 was made with a memory of this post...

It is no wonder why YOU CANT WIN AN ELECTION.

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2005-09-26 09:48 AM

...and many, many others by those on the right claiming that Democrats will never win another election.

"the GOP will never win another election" and Democrats "CANT WIN AN ELECTION" and "a Permanent Republican Majority" are all the exact same thing:

Hubris.

Hans

Paul Krugman is a loon that hides in academia because he would never make it in the real world. He is much too nervous and insecure.

I would take this guy seriously if he stopped blinking so much and looking at his penis in the mirror

"I would take this guy seriously if he stopped blinking so much and looking at his penis in the mirror"

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