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Televangelist Pat Robertson has returned from his end-of-year prayer retreat with his predictions for 2009, which include his claim that President-elect Obama will bring socialism to the country. "Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the '30s," he said. "Cast off the gloom and the doom because things are getting ready to turn around."

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Pat Robertson called the 2004 election for Bush 11 months early.

He said oil would hit $ 150/barrel in 2008 (it hit $ 147.90) and said there would be some economic collapse.

Just thought I'd put this out there, so y'all can call him out if he's wrong, or praise him if he's right.

Well Jesus Pat Almighty!

Did he call the Darkie winnin the 2008 election?


I predict we'll all be stuck with Pat Robertson and his tiring babble for yet another year.

Pat Robertson called the 2004 election for Bush 11 months early.

He said oil would hit $ 150/barrel in 2008 (it hit $ 147.90) and said there would be some economic collapse.

And even a clock that's permanently seized up is right twice a day-big deal.
Every other time he's been wrong.
I'll stick with his percentages and call him a crackpot.


Least we forget:

"Pat Robertson warns of terrorist attack in 2007"

www.msnbc.msn.com


Hey Kirt who has better visions, you or Pat?

Or do you watch the same channel?

Did he predict that he would break his own leg press record of 2000 pounds this year with the help of his "age defying energy drink"?

Did he predict when that meteor was gonna hit Disneyworld fer having "gay days"?

Did he predict when Hugo Chaves was gonna be assasinated or did he just call for it again?

Sorry, but this former faith healer and full time snake oil salesman has less credibility than Bush.

/Which basically puts him into negative numbers.

Be Well.

Pat Robertson is a tired old sack of shit, and anyone who pays any attention to this fraud is either mentally challenged or hopelessly deluded.
Yeah, Kirk, I'm callin' you out.

MORE GEMS FROM PATTYCAKES

In 1980, Robertson predicted the start of World War III, telling his audience that God said the year would be full of "sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it." He also prophecied in the same year that the Soviet Union would invade the Middle East to seize its oil reserves.

In 1988, Robertson claimed that God told him to run for president. He did not win the Republican primary.

In his 1991 book The New World Order, Robertson forecast that U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller would be elected president in 1996.

In 1998, Robertson threatened that, as punishment for flying rainbow flags during Disney World's annual Gay Days event, the city of Orlando would be struck by "earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor".

In 2004, Robertson predicted that George W. Bush would win reelection in "a blowout". Although Bush was reelected, it was by 50.7% to 48.3% - the closest ever margin for a sitting president.

In January 2006, Robertson forecast that the U.S. midterm elections would leave the Republican party in control of Congress. He also predicted that the Iraq war would "come to a successful conclusion" that year and U.S. troops would begin withdrawing.

Robertson also predicted in 2006 that devastating storms and hurricanes would lash the U.S. coast. He must have thought this a particularly safe guess, but in fact no hurricanes made landfall in the U.S. in that year.

Robertson currently features on his official website, under the heading "Operation Supreme Court Freedom," a letter released following the June 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas that decriminalized homosexual sodomy. In the letter, Robertson asked his supporters to pray for liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justices to retire: "Would you join with me and many others in crying out to our Lord to change the Court? ... One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer, and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire? With their retirement and the appointment of conservative judges, a massive change in federal jurisprudence can take place."

Yeah, yeah, fucking yeah. Always with the doomsday horseshit, which we've heard for the last 500 plus years now.

Go away, Pat, and get better material.

Robertson says:
In 2009: The economy will recover, a swift recovery as early as April. People will welcome socialism under Obama, nothing will stand in the way. It will be a new New Deal.

The U.S. will have less power in the world, the dollar will go down dramatically. There will be hyperinflation--$ 300/barrel oil, $ 1500/ounce for gold.

So much for his pipeline to God. The two forecasts are mutually exclusive. He's right about the New Deal socialism; that's common knowledge. There can be no recovery under socialism.

Hey Kirt who has better visions, you or Pat?Or do you watch the same channel?#6 | Posted by Zap at 2009-01-02 02:21 PM | Reply

I do, definitely.

One of which was heads asploding by me just posting this.

It's like Michael Jackson jokes...almost TOO MUCH material...

If Pat picked up this list from Gawd, then it's time for Alternate Plan B: the Magic 8-Ball.


One of which was heads asploding by me just posting this.
It's like Michael Jackson jokes...almost TOO MUCH material...

#12 | POSTED BY KIRK


Best of Luck with dat...

Shalom: Can somebody explain to be what these xtians mean by predictions? In Torah, if a prophet claims to hear from Hashem and the so called prophet is wrong, then the prophet is "terminated". So what is the difference between a prophecy and a prediction? And what is the difference between Pat Robertson and Kim Clement? Are they both saying the same thing or not? And what are their salaries. What is the income and salary of Kim Clement? All of this is a little weird to me. But I know that Pat Robertson supports the State of Israel. Joseph benJudah.

Tanks are rollin' in, take cover!

According to the Creator, "if I'm hearing him right, gold will go to about $1,900 an ounce, and oil $300 a barrel," Robertson said.

Comical. People send their money to this clown?

Pat 'The Nutcase' Robertson is now a Financial and Economic scholar?

Dear Pat,

Go back to your hatred of all people who don't send you their paychecks, asshole. It's the only thing you're good at.

The "New Deal" was a bust. Happy days are here again.

Pat 'The Nutcase' Robertson is now a Financial and Economic scholar?

#18 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Just like everyone else here.

The "New Deal" was a bust. Happy days are here again.


Who to believe. Capo Di Tutti frutti or Milton Friedman.



According to Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke, "Only with the New Deal's rehabilitation of the financial system in 1933-35 did the economy begin its slow emergence from the Great Depression." In fact, even famed conservative economist Milton Friedman admitted that the New Deal's Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was "the structural change most conducive to monetary stability since ... the Civil War."

OK -- if the verifiable evidence proves the New Deal did not prolong the Depression, what about historians -- do they "pretty much agree" on the opposite?

Again, no.

As Newsweek's Daniel Gross reports, "One would be very hard-pressed to find a serious professional historian who believes that the New Deal prolonged the Depression."


www.salon.com

As Newsweek's Daniel Gross reports, "One would be very hard-pressed to find a serious professional historian who believes that the New Deal prolonged the Depression."

Serious professional historians have traditionally been state apologists. They typically praise presidents that did the most to expand the state like Lincoln and Roosevelt. I wouldn't take serious professional historians seriously.

Basically Hoover and Roosevelt pulled every lever they could to prevent prices from correcting themselves. By confiscating gold, Roosevelt had the means to inflate the money supply. It made the GDP numbers look good, but it prolonged the depression.

The US was the world's greatest creditor nation in Roosevelt's day. This time the US is the world's greatest debtor nation. When Obama starts spending money he doesn't have, I guarantee he will turn this into the mother of all Depressions.

The US was the world's greatest creditor nation in Roosevelt's day. This time the US is the world's greatest debtor nation. When Obama starts spending money he doesn't have, I guarantee he will turn this into the mother of all Depressions.

#22 | Posted by Ray


AGREED.........

But, we will come out of it.

"Serious professional historians have traditionally been state apologists." - Ray

Why, because they invariably disagree with you? Damn, this is a seriously stupid statement.

I agree with Ray, for once. If you read about Carter, it seems as if he were not that bad a president. Anybody who lived though Carter knows better.

"If you read about Carter, it seems as if he were not that bad a president. Anybody who lived though Carter knows better."

Amazingly enough historians have created evaluations of his good points and bad points before they came to their conclusions on his administration. Very unlike the right who brands him simply because he was left of center.

BTW, I lived through Carter and he wasn't anywhere near as bad as the right makes him out to be. His problem was indecision caused by micromanaging, being involved in everything. But he had good ideas, even if they were unpopular since they called for personal sacrifice. Which is why the right loved Reagan so much - no personal sacrifice, just feel good.

I know it's been said many times before, but it is true: Carter was a good man with a good heart and a sincere hope for bettering America. But he was a shitty leader. I voted for him in '76 seeing those good qualities. But his lack of backbone and leadership one would expect from the leader of the free world after the hostages were taken disappointed me.

Why, because they invariably disagree with you? Damn, this is a seriously stupid statement.

#25 | Posted by fyi

Remember, history is written by the victors. Lincoln refused the right of states to secede. Roosevelt was a master at welfare and warfare. Their legacies plague us to this day.

"Their legacies plague us to this day." - Ray

Actually, that would be your opinion. Mine is the opposite. This would not be the most powerful nation on Earth without the actions of those two presidents. If Lincoln had let the states secede, there would be two countries here. Which almost inevitably would have been at odds with each other since then. And neither would have helped the Allies in WWI or WWII. Nor opposed Russia. It would have created a disastrous world. I think we are extremely fortunate to have had those two presidents and that they acted as they did.

But his lack of backbone and leadership one would expect from the leader of the free world after the hostages were taken disappointed me.

Carter had bigger balls than Raygun did.

Carter tried to make changes in DC by bringing in outsiders and fer his attempts to disturb the status quo he was shut down not only by the right but the left as well.

HW Bush as VP nom, using his CIA contacts, went behind Carter's back and arranged for the Iranian hostage crisis to last until the election was over in order to make Carter seem ineffectual. Carter's one attempt at rescuing the hostages "Operation Eagle Claw" ended disastrously with a 3 out of 8 helicopters running into mechanical difficulties. One helicopter crashing during a refuel killing 8 servicemen and thus the entire plan had to be aborted. This turned out to be a political coup for both the Iranians and the GOP ticket of Reagan and Bush.

Spud finds all that "bad luck" deeply suspicious to this day.

Anybody who buys into the government investigation that basically cleared HW and his meat puppet Raygun of any wrongdoing in the timing of the release of the hostages is as braindead as that asshole Raygun was before he croaked.

Be Well.

HW Bush as VP nom, using his CIA contacts...

LOL When no facts are available to support a loser on 'your side', weave a conspiracy -- the more convoluted, the better.

Now who was it who wrote:

Try being at least marginally honest fer a change.

LOL

. . .
I think we are extremely fortunate to have had those two presidents and that they acted as they did.

Well put and absolutely on the mark

ahem...goatman?

"Pat Robertson Predicts New New Deal"

So does Obama.

Did Pat predict another depression on Dubya's watch.

Pat Robertson = zionist

"#34 | Posted by nanc"

I thought it stank in here.

I predict the money supply to be increased with interest greatly in 2009, being produced by the Federal Reserve in order to meant the demands of a slow economy. More public workers, less private workers. A higher gas tax because of less demand and so on.

LOL When no facts are available to support a loser on 'your side', weave a conspiracy -- the more convoluted, the better.

Now who was it who wrote:

Try being at least marginally honest fer a change.

LOL

#32 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-03 08:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

You don't find it the least bit odd that the Hostages were released WHILE Reagan was being sworn in?

My guess, the RNC's check cleared.

Nothing like giving hundreds of millions of dollars worth of missiles to a country that just released our hostages, is there?

You don't find it the least bit odd that the Hostages were released WHILE Reagan was being sworn in?

Of course I don't. The Iranians weren't fools. They knew as soon as Reagan got his hand off that Bible and lowered his right had that he would tell them, "Turn 'em loose in 24 hours or your country is a glass parking lot". And he would've done it.

The Iranians knew that Carter was a pushover, but wisely knew that Reagan wasn't.

Or we could go with deth's convoluted conspiracy of back door deals, etc.

Occam's razor, baby -- not to mention common sense

You don't find it the least bit odd that the Hostages were released WHILE Reagan was being sworn in?


My guess, the RNC's check cleared.

Posted by COMMONSENSE


lol ff

"There is always Paris"

They knew as soon as Reagan got his hand off that Bible and lowered his right had that he would tell them, "Turn 'em loose in 24 hours or your country is a glass parking lot". And he would've done it.

And yet we had to give them hundreds of millions of dollars worth of missiles? A hostile country? Doesn't wash.

Americanunity-
Yeah, but Reagan did that secretly and illegally, so you have to give him credit for doing that and getting away with it....all the while making folks like Goatman think of him as the John Wayne we never really had.

The best part was that Reagan used the illegal sales of weaponry to Iran to fund his illegal war right here in this little corner of the world.

The missles to Iran were two years later and were proven to be done to fund contra-revolutionaries in Central America.

all the while making folks like Goatman think of him as the John Wayne we never really had.

Betelg, I know it's a stupid question, so I won't ask. But I do wonder why you don't ever tire of assigning positions to other people. It's such a childish act and is tantamount to outright lying.

The missles to Iran were two years later and were proven to be done to fund contra-revolutionaries in Central America.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 05:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Good think Reagan's veep and successor pardoned everyone for the illegal and secret arms sales, AND the illegal funding of a proxy war whose funds had been cut off. But, they were only operating in secret and breaking laws to "keep us safe", right?

Reagan involved in convoluted conspiracies?


no way!


Olie North was a good ole boy!

But, they were only operating in secret and breaking laws to "keep us safe", right?

How could I know? According to you they were operating in secret.

Goatman-
"tantamout" to lying? From an anonymous poster on a backwater blog? Jesus, I can only imagine your reaction of rage if an elected official actually lied....

tantamout" to lying?

Yes. That's what I said. Don't tell me you find it completely honest to constantly assign positions to others.

Or do you?

How could I know? According to you they were operating in secret.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 06:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

You know now:

The missles to Iran were two years later and were proven to be done to fund contra-revolutionaries in Central America.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 05:55 AM | Reply | Flag:


Goatman-
Pardon me.

You know now:

Really? I guess I don't see the part about them 'keeping us safe' as you asked me. Please point that part out to me.

Otherwise, I still don't know.

Goatman-
Very well. You defend criminals, and take offense at an anonymous poster on a minor blog for pointing it out in a fashion you find impolite.

Does that cover it?

Again, pardon me.

You defend criminals,

Again, assigning flase positions to others.

I'll check back with you another day and see if you've grown up any. Until then --

later, loser

Goatman-
re: The missles to Iran were two years later and were proven to be done to fund contra-revolutionaries in Central America.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 05:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

These were illegal acts. I have yet to hear a peep out of you.

These were illegal acts. I have yet to hear a peep out of you.

???

You aren't reading then.

1) Was Reagan convicted? No. Then he's not a criminal.
2) Did I even defend his actions, criminal or not? No.

As I said -- you are assigning false positions to me as a child would.

buh bye

Goatman-
What I have heard is this:

How could I know? According to you they were operating in secret.

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 06:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

And this:

(Me: You defend criminals)

You: Again, assigning flase positions to others.

I'll check back with you another day and see if you've grown up any. Until then --

later, loser

#59 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 06:12 AM | Reply | Flag:


Goat-
They were illegal acts, and they were all pardoned by Reagan's veep.

You defend criminals. I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable. I'm sure there are a few scores of thousands to the south who would love to have that uncomfortable feeling back.

The hard part is that you are old enough to remember. And I'm sorry for that too.

Pardon me.

They were illegal acts, and they were all pardoned by Reagan's veep.

???

Reagan was never pardoned of anything least of all by Bush. So I maintain my position: Reagan was never convicted of a crime in the Iran contra affair. Therefore he is not a criminal as you maintain.

Don't you get enough of your lying jollies by assigning false positions to others? Why do you feel it is necessary to rewrite history, too?

You need help, dude.

You defend criminals.

name one. Just one. Oh, you can't? I guess you proved again you are a liar.

I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.

Yes, your lies do indeed make me uncomfortable. I'd like to think that I am able to trust you, but you prove over and over that I can't.

Al Franken does a mean Pat Robertson impression sure to make all his colleagues laugh 'til their stomachs hurt.

"I'd like to think that I am able to trust you, but you prove over and over that I can't.
#66 | Posted by goatman"

Oh, puhlease, get over yourself, Cabron.

Oh, puhlease, get over yourself, Cabron.

that was actually abou betelg, not me, dopey_sarvis. But thank you for idiotically jumping in. I've missed your nose up my ass.

The perpetual lamentations of Cabron. Adjust your specs and you'll see I was commentng on your unending pontifications and bloviations. You've become a parody of yourself and need but a little encouragement every now and again to make the display even more of a burlesque than it already is. Thanks for the laughs.

"I've missed your nose up my ass.
#69 | Posted by goatman"

That's not my nose, Cabron. Perhaps you should feed your poodle better.


Oh, I'm so disappointed in you. I thought I could trust you. Life is nothing without trust, and there's so little of it. You've let me down and clearly you're nothing more than a liar. A lying, disappointing liar of a liar. Fie on you!
~Cabron

You're a joke, man.

The joke is that you can't keep you nose out of my ass. I said nothing to you, but you jumped right up there a sniffing. You just couldn't resist

Yep, you're the joke, dopey.

I also find it peculiar that you'd rather go sniffing up my ass instead of chastising a blatant liar.

Oh well, to each his own. It's just not my style, but I'm glad you've found something that works for you.

I feel a bit sick that I've lowered myself to your level. I'm off now to look for intelligent life, but I'll leave a big steaming pile for you so you won't miss me. If you ask betelg nicely, maybe he'll tell some more lies for you to revel in as well. You seem to enjoy the basest of what life has to offer. LOL

Later loser.

#71 | Posted by goatman

You sound like a cross between Johnson and a defrocked, drunken ex-priest. Get help, pantload.


NANC is back from her "Black Panther" hunt. Do you think she found any?

"They were illegal acts, and they were all pardoned by Reagan's veep.

???

Reagan was never pardoned of anything least of all by Bush"

Wow. Reading is FUNdamental. Does that say Bush pardoned Reagan? No. Bush did pardon Ollie North, et.al. Talk about re-writing history!

Wow. Reading is FUNdamental. Does that say Bush pardoned Reagan? No. Bush did pardon Ollie North, et.al. Talk about re-writing history!

Yes, reading is fundamental. Go back and give it another try. You'll see that betelg clearly called Reagan a criminal for participating in the Iran Contra affair. I said he wasn't ever convicted. Betelg responded that their (granted he didn't say Reagan specifically, but the context of the subthread certainly implied it) crimes were pardoned.

It's like a jigsaw puzzle, lettuceprey. You have to put all the pieces together to see the big picture and not look at only one.

Good luck with that.

Take that beam out of your own eye before you come after my splinter.

"What the Lord was saying, the people are willing to accept socialism to alleviate their pain"

I am going to go ahead and agree with the Lord on this one.

Jesus was a bit of a socialist, as many have said.

You don't find it the least bit odd that the Hostages were released WHILE Reagan was being sworn in?

Of course I don't. The Iranians weren't fools. They knew as soon as Reagan got his hand off that Bible and lowered his right had that he would tell them, "Turn 'em loose in 24 hours or your country is a glass parking lot". And he would've done it.

The Iranians knew that Carter was a pushover, but wisely knew that Reagan wasn't.

Or we could go with deth's convoluted conspiracy of back door deals, etc.

Occam's razor, baby -- not to mention common sense

#42 | Posted by goatman at 2009-01-04 05:34 AM | Reply | Flag:


Ya know, I had actually typed "and don't give me some bullshit about how they were afraid of Reagan" at the end of my post but I figured it unnecessary and deleted it.

My mistake.

"The Iranians knew that Carter was a pushover, but wisely knew that Reagan wasn't."

lol did Olie & George tell them that?

Ya know, I had actually typed "and don't give me some bullshit about how they were afraid of Reagan" at the end of my post but I figured it unnecessary and deleted it.

It's funny how the left likes to portray Reagan as very hawkish when it is convenient to the arguement, but when it is inconvenient, there seems to be no reason to think he was, as in this Iranian implication. They'd rather spin convoluted conspiracies than remain consistent on their ascribed properties of the man.

Who's the left here? This guy wrote a book on why Obama is a shill, too:>)


George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography --- by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin

Chapter -XVIII- Iran- Contra

www.tarpley.net

1) the secret arming of the Khomeini regime in Iran by the U.S. government, during an official U.S.-decreed arms embargo against Iran, while the U.S. publicly denounced the recipients of its secret deliveries as terrorists and kidnappers--a policy initiated under the Jimmy Carter presidency and accelerated by the Reagan-Bush administration;


Chapter -XVI- Campaign 1980

www.tarpley.net

Between October 21 and October 23, Israel despatched a planeload of much-needed F-4 Phantom jet spare parts it Iran in violation of the US arms boycott. Who in Washington had sanctioned these shipments? In Teheran, the US hostages were reportedly dispersed into a multitude of locations on October 22. Also on October 22, Prime Minister Rajai, back from New York and Algiers, announced that Iran wanted neither American spare parts nor American arms. The Iranian approach to the ongoing contacts with the Carter Administration now began to favor evasive delaying tactics. There were multiple indications that Khomeini had decided that Reagan-Bush was a better bet than Carter, and that Reagan-Bush had made the more generous offer.

Barbara Honegger, then an official of the Reagan-Bush campaign recalls that "on October 24th or 25th, an assistant to Stephan Halper's 'October Surprise' intelligence operation echoed William Casey's newfound confidence, boasting to the author in the operations center where [Reagan-Bush Iran watcher Michel] Smith worked that the campaign no longer needed to worry about an 'October surprise' because 'Dick [Allen] cut a deal." [fn 43]

YEAH!

And Hannititty was surprised and disappointed that no one cared about Obama's minister!

Why is it only a surprise to Wingnuts that after decades of the Falwel and Robertson's spewing Bat-Shit Crazy nonsense's that some would become desensitized to what these crooks made mainstream --- crazy preacher talk!

The only thing that woulod impress me is if Pat Robertson came back from one of his end-of-the-year prayer retreats with a prediction of his imminent demise.

BTW, you all left out one of his predictions.

The minimum tithe is going up to 15% due to inflation. Poor Pity-Pat can barely make ends meet these days, doncha know?

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