Any of them get to head FEMA? They all sound as qualified as Brownie. Hell, with their in depth knowledge of the judicial system, they could have been AG. Assuming of course, they had memory problems or ever lost an election to a dead guy. Psychotic loathing of marble breasts would be worth bonus points.

Sounds ridiculous, but those who didn't get earthly pardons should seek divine pardon and beat all the ungodly celebrities in the afterlife.

Lazarus the beggar went to paradise. His neighbor the rich man woke up in hell. (Luke 16).

His neighbor the rich man woke up in hell. (Luke 16).

A lot of Republicans would say you're lying takeit- Jayzuzz loves the rich folk. Being rich is proof of it. Ken Lay is floating on a big fluffy cloud right now, according to the evanjihadists.

Northguy3, I don't know about Ken Lay --- whether he sought divine pardon or not, but again ridiculous as it sounds, even at the last minute of life, God will ALWAYS RESPOND TO GENUINE REPENTANCE (remember the dying thief on the cross).

OK, riches in and of itself is just that: neutral, nothing wrong. But wealth has a way of controlling its owner, and this makes awful hard for a rich man to seek God with clarity and humility.

Takeitez, you don't even know your own holy book. The select were picked before the earth was made, there is no redemption. Only the grace of god, not a human act like "repentance" gets you to heaven.

"but true repentence and acceptance of Christ"

Sounds like "works" to me.

Basic example: Adam and Eve were kicked out of paradise for disobedience.

Now Letusprey is telling me that after coming to Christ, one can continue in disobedience (unrepentance).

Be not deceived. If you have come to Christ, keep yourself in the love of God by prayer and in the Holy Spirit (Jude 20-24).

If not, you will be left behind when the rapture happens --- your last hope is to refuse the 666 and be martyred: even then God has a reward for them (Revelation 20:4).

1000 years reign is better than a few minutes of terror and chopping of head. Never give in if you find yourself in this situation!

"Adam and Eve were kicked out of paradise for disobedience."

Was this the paradise Mormons locate in the Show Me State? The one near Baghdad (Iraq, not Arizona)? Or the Paradise Bar & Grill in Tallahassee?

Pay attention Doc it's the one just off Route 666.

So basically Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot could be bouncing on those fluffy clouds along side Ken Lay, if they repented just before death?

And those non-Christians who spent their entire life helping others are burning in hell? Sounds like God doesn't care what you do, as long as you toe the party line before shuffling off your mortal coil.

Suhweeeet....

Zap - LOL!

Northguy3, God does care enough to receive you should you seek Him in humility --- but for now you seem to argue yourself farther and farther away. Its your opinion and its your one life on earth.

Again, as for Ken Lay, I have no clue where he went, whether he sought divine pardon or not.
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Some people are fortunate to have friends or relatives praying for them. And when the Holy Spirit hits, the scales fall off their eyes and they make a complete turn around.

A friend took me out to dinner one time and told me how God touched him. A believer simply reminded him 'to not let pride rule his life'. He laughed it off. One day he got hit by the Holy spirit and he remembered the word pride and realized it was really pride that was keeping him away from God. He broke down (in tears) under conviction and turned to the Lord.

I pray that the Holy Spirit will hit some readers here someday. Then you will understand a lot of things that you scoff or laugh at right now. (If not, then sorry for your eternal misfortune).

"Then you will understand a lot of things"

Like, say, the meaning of The Parable of The Good Samaritan?

"I pray that the Holy Spirit will hit some readers here someday."

If your prayers are answered the Holy Spirit will be due for a good, swift kick in the bollocks.

Yes, Dan, thx for correcting me on that one.... though occasional oversight is different from tectonic shift in attitude toward God.

According to some posters it (with consideration to thr B man) is who you blow. I dont' know????

Again, as for Ken Lay, I have no clue where he went, whether he sought divine pardon or not.

He meet the Grim reaper who gave him some 'special' cardiac meds and Everybody found a little Paradise.

Who says the bible is the word of god?

It is interesting that people of zealot faith say the bible is the word of God but have no idea how that attribution came about.......mans church no doubt.

It is interesting that people of zealot faith say the bible is the word of God but have no idea how that attribution came about

Hey It says so in the Bible.

It's called Circular Faith...

Adam and Eve were kicked out of paradise for disobedience.

Spud finds the whole Adam and Eve story to be basically a lufferly little metaphor describing the evolution of human sentience.

At one point human being were indistinguishable from all the other animals on the planet and then at some point a tipping point of conciousness was achieved and suddenly we became aware of our own nakedness and the existence of free will and our ability to chose between right and wrong.

We were kicked out of the Garden after having feasted on the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Basically, sentience gave us the ability to choose between right and wrong and we didn't always do the right thing.

Essentially all the other species on the planet who are not sentient and do not have free will never left the Garden.

Trick is to get back into the Garden ie. find a path towards a sustainable, eco-friendly existence w/o giving up sentience or free will.

So far humanity sucks ass in all it's attempts to date.

Don't take any of that as gospel, obviously.

Merely a spuddish rant from an athiest/recovering catholic.

On Topic?

This world has always been less a meritocracy and more of a neptocracy.

Anyone suprised by this fact has not been paying attention at all.

Be Well.

"Again, as for Ken Lay, I have no clue where he went, whether he sought divine pardon or not."

Takeashitski, why don't you go to the restroom before you log on so you don't spew your ignorant shit all over an otherwise intelligent conversation.

Go back to the kiddie section and find another book you can obsess about. Then you can come back and explain the 'debil' to us.

See what i mean about the corrolation between extreme religiosity and lack of intelligence?

Exactly... Just like this guy
Mayor Richard M. Daleythis guy knows Obama too. Not long ago, there was Democrat Illinois Congressman Dan Rostenkowski, who was indicted on 17 felony charges, including embezzlement of nearly $700,000 of taxpayer and campaign funds (Remember the stamps?) He served 15 months in prison before being pardoned by President Clinton. Today he pockets something in the neighborhood of $100,000 a year from his congressional pension.

A convicted felon collecting 100 grand a year in pension money from you and me folks...

Maybe he Blew Hillery..........

"A convicted felon collecting 100 grand a year in pension money from you and me folks..."

Any idea about Duke Cunningham's Navy and Congressional pension status.

Makes no difference the party, the sleezeballs should be hit in the only thing that counts with them: their goddamned wallets.

The select were picked before the earth was made, there is no redemption. Only the grace of god, not a human act like "repentance" gets you to heaven.

#6 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-01-01 04:53 PM | Reply

This is a classic Amateur Hour error. People have used this nonsense for centuries as an excuse for a lazy life.

The concept of 'predestination' is also a long-time intramural topic within the church.

Stupid people like LUP don't understand that God exists outside of time. That's how God can know the final score, even though it has not happened yet. LUP can only understand linear time.

God didn't tag people from the beginning as redeemed or damned. He gives us the free will to choose. But He also knows what choice you will make.

"but true repentence and acceptance of Christ"

Sounds like "works" to me.

#7 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2009-01-01 04:54 PM | Reply

At least you are consistent in your ignorance.

God is always at the ready for you; your 'works' is in your active resistance to God. If you stop fighting Him it's not works but a stoppge of works.

Surely you've had situations where you finally accepted the inevitable. It's a relief to stop struggling.

Stupid people like LUP don't understand that God exists outside of time. That's how God can know the final score, even though it has not happened yet. LUP can only understand linear time.

God didn't tag people from the beginning as redeemed or damned. He gives us the free will to choose. But He also knows what choice you will make.

#27 | Posted by vernon at 2009-01-01 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since God created us, and knows who will choose what (your definition of free will), didn't he set some people up to be damned?

didn't he set some people up to be damned?

#29 | Posted by BetelG

see what i mean? they can't have it both ways. god can't be omnisicient and benevolent at the same time.

here's another problem. if what vermot is saying is true, why would god be angry that he created man (ref. the story of noah).

also, how could my personal favorite bible verse be literal?

proverbs 6
16 These six things doth the LORD hate;
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 a proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 a false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.


how could god hate what he already knows and has set in motion. he should be happy that his subjects are killing each other every day, because that is His will, no?

could it be that the current religious interrpretations of god are WRONG?

Lipzoidal-
There is an alternate explanation that makes more sense while preserving the actuality of the Old Testament God: He was/is not omniscient, omnipresent, or "timeless", but was rather a tribal god who was petty, jealous, and liked to smite the enemies of his tribe.

I pray that the Holy Spirit will hit some readers here someday. Then you will understand a lot of things that you scoff or laugh at right now. (If not, then sorry for your eternal misfortune).
-Takitez

Oh, I used to get hit by the "Holy Spirit," whenever I worked myself into a religious frenzy. Got tired of it, though. All you're talking about is a technique pushing your own spiritual buttons and tricking yourself into thinking it's some or another deity. It's basically like masturbating but convinving yourself you're getting a handjob. I suggest trading hits of the holy spirit for hits of something a little more enjoyable. Quit wasting your finite existence here on Earth worrying about an "eternity" for which there is no shred of supporting evidence.

Thx for all the comments.

To Hans: I read about John Lennon doing dope and then composing the song.

As for Ken Lay, I was not privy to his last moments on earth, or death bed as we call it. That's all I'm saying.

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I'm fully aware some of you will jump at this too, but I'll say it anyway as a witness.....

On your deathbed demons (people in the natural cannot see it) will show up and wait to take away your soul --- but for those in Christ, God's angels will be there to escort the soul to heaven (Luke 16:22).

All the best. May the good Lord open the eyes of those who sincerely seek the truth.

Takit-
I'm sure you are quite qualified to state who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. (Especially if they are liberals "doing dope").
You seemed to have overlooked something damnable, however: Hubris.

"but true repentence and acceptance of Christ in God's eyes punches the ol' Heaven ticket" - Oohrah.

but for those in Christ, God's angels will be there to escort the soul to heaven (Luke 16:22).- Takitez

Come on, you believers. Is it a bus or is it an escort service?

Make up your minds, please!

Betelg, the story goes that John Lennon was a bit high when he composed the song. I'm not implying that he went to hell because he was doing dope or that because he was a liberal.

At the moment, or upto the moment of his death, there is no record that John Lennon acknowledged Christ as his Lord and Savior.

Based on what Jesus said in John 14:6, I have been laying out the discussions.

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LOL Sitdown, the word 'escort' is associated with certain things in the world's mind. But in reference to angels, they come to protect/escort the heirs of salvation --- so the demons cannot lay a hand on them in their flight to heaven.

Takit-
Right. So a child dies of cholera in Africa, but believes not in Christ, but in something else....

Your demon sends him/her to hell?

(BTW, you have stated declaratively that John Lennon is in hell, "God". Shall I quote you?)

Yakit-
re: Betelg, the story goes that John Lennon was a bit high when he composed the song.

Not that it matters, but what story is that?

Takitez is either relating what he learned in Sunday School the previous Sunday or his lesson plan for the preschoolers the next Sunday.

Betel

You know the story:

"Some people say..."

Ted-
Few things gall me more than some stupid primate claiming his own personal demon-daddy as the lord of the universe, and to hell with all the rest.

Its not what you did

Its who you know

and how much power you weild

and how much money you are prepared to part with

Betelg, a good point....

at what point or at what age a child reaches the level of accountability only God knows; but there are no children in hell, as all children go to heaven regardless of the faith or no faith or different faith of their parents.

could it be that the current religious interrpretations of god are WRONG?
#30 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Perhaps the defiinitions of God are wrong. Maybe he/she/it isn't omnipotent but in comparison to our earthly capabilities, that is a distinction without a difference?

at what point or at what age a child reaches the level of accountability only God knows; but there are no children in hell, as all children go to heaven regardless of the faith or no faith or different faith of their parents.
#43 | Posted by takitez

Wait, I thought that was the whole point of baptism right after birth?

*shrugs

"To Hans: I read about John Lennon doing dope and then composing the song.

"As for Ken Lay, I was not privy to his last moments on earth, or death bed as we call it. That's all I'm saying."

To takitez: F*CK YOU, assh*le.

Can't be more plain than that. You troll around here proclaiming in no uncertain terms that liberals like John Lennon are in hell ("At the moment, or upto the moment of his death, there is no record that John Lennon acknowledged Christ as his Lord and Savior."), while for Republicans is it "I was not privy to his last moments on earth."

Once again, F*CK YOU takitez. You do more harm to Christianity than any previous posters here. Period.

"On your deathbed demons (people in the natural cannot see it)"

#33 | Posted by Cole Sear

Hans, I am humbled to increase my reward through your ranting (Matthew 5:11). I have restrained myself from exercising a similar privilege on you as shown here in Acts 13:8-12.

But in due time, when the Lord strikes you, remember so long as you have breath, you can still repent and plead for mercy. REMEMBER!

Remember the dying thief.

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Biblically, baptism is a symbol for dying to sin and resurrecting in Christ. Baptism does not bring salvation. Baptised or not, all children go to heaven.

"Hans, I am humbled to increase my reward through your ranting"

"Hans, I am humbled to increase my reward through your ranting"

takitez: if you're a dirty liberal hippie you die and go straight to hell.

If you're a conservative, Republican and/or friend of GWB, "I was not privy to his last moments on earth.".

Hans

Hans, Just grow up. Answer to post #49 .... the privilege of rubbing nose was simply an expression to mean I get to share my viewpoints to liberals, like it or not.

Are you that offended by the line? You have been very insulting to me yet I have not been dredging your past posts to distract you or others.

And what has the death of Lennon and Ken Lay has to do with being dem/repub ?

John Lennon went to hell because he did not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

I have no clue if Ken Lay received Jesus and begged for mercy on his death bed. Did he or did he not? Maybe Hans can research and share with us on this particular incident.

It isn't who you know, its who you blow.

John Lennon went to hell because he did not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.
#52 | POSTED BY TAKITEZ

Says Jesus' mouth piece on earth..

Not that Takitez would be judgmental. I believe that would be sinful he's only given the straight talk as relayed by the big guy.

Baptised or not, all children go to heaven. -Takitez

Unborn ones, too, I sincerely hope.

"I have no clue if Ken Lay received Jesus and begged for mercy on his death bed."

One would think that restitution would have been required before forgiveness. Lay's greedy family will share his punishment eventually I hope. They all deserve a nice hot spot in hell. If some don't want to share the guilt....fine give back the loot.

Ken Lay did nothing wrong.
He was obviously framed by the DNC

Zap, there is a fine line between being judgmental and declaring a factual statement.

Ken Lay did wrong, but it was something that cannot be easily corrected. Even then, if there is true repentance, there is true mercy --- I'm aware this is hard to digest, but God's mercy is unlimited to anyone who truly seek Him with absolute penitence and seek for mercy (not justice). The dying thief on the cross who received mercy was not asked to provide restitution because it was no longer possible for him.

Be merciful because you need the mercy of God yourself, no matter in whatever league you think you are.

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Re. John Lennon: from CELEBRITIES IN HELL (by Warren Allen Smith).... "....Lennon later called himself an atheist.... found in the song, "Imagine"...."

Zap, there is a fine line between being judgmental and declaring a factual statement.

Yup and you clearly crossed it.

Thanks for playing...

If God exists, God judges people by what God sees in their soul/mind. And how they act on that. And most importantly by how they treat the people around them. The thinking that good works alone can't get one into heaven seems very opposed this.

Religion is a tool (even if it has been abused throughout history) to get people to behave in such a manner. The primary purpose of Jesus was to put forth, reinforce, and emphasize those points. Any religion saying that it is _the only_ way to God reflects hubris, because no religion and no human can read the mind of God. Any person saying that commits much more than hubris. That some people believe that the Bible is the literal word of God and it therefore (_per their interpretation_) supports their position is the ultimate in circular logic.

Zap, you're entitled to your opinion while I'm entitled to disagree.

If every proclamation of warning or statement of facts are considered 'judgment', I guess liberals will go about judging those who continue to express solemn truths of scripture.

Are you a dirty, f*cking liberal hippie? No question whatsoever:

"John Lennon went to hell because he did not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior."

"I was not privy to his last moments on earth."

Hans

Postscript - Thank you for providing me with the very words necessary to condemn your perversion of God's Holy Word.

"Zap, there is a fine line between being judgmental and declaring a factual statement."

"John Lennon went to hell because he did not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior."

Hans

I guess liberals will go about judging those who continue to express solemn truths of scripture.

So now it is a 'solemn truths of scripture' that Lennon went to hell..

How now that is upping the ante!

FF for you

You're funny, Hans. Even childish, sometimes.

John Lennon was shot dead --- we know he died an atheist.

As for Ken Lay, he had some time to ponder on all that went wrong --- and one never knows his real state of mind leading upto his demise.

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That does not minimize the pain, loss, anger,and frustrations of those who suffered as a result of Enron and its fall. Sometimes things do happen and survivors are left with having to go through painful adjustments in life.

How now that is upping the ante!

Make that "Now that is upping the ante".

It's hard to type and laugh at the same time. I think that's in Scripture. The Book of Belushi.

"John Lennon was shot dead --- we know he died an atheist."

We? How do you know what was in his heart?

Of course, if you're a conservative, Republican or, best of all, a friend of George W. Bush, you get the takitez perversion-of-the-Holy Word, benefit of the doubt:

"I was not privy to his last moments on earth."

takitez: funny, even childish, sometimes.

Hans

OK, keep playing the 'implacable'....

OK, keep playing the 'implacable'....

#68 | POSTED BY TAKITEZ

Try a mirror.

It's Not What You Did, It's Who You Know

and this is new HOW???...in almost any context you want to talk about....

I guess you could add this one..

its not what you did, its whether your name is kennedy or not..........

its not what you did, its whether your name is kennedy or not..........

Or Bush.

The Conservative Perversion of God's Holy Word
(otherwise known as takitez's gospel)

Let's start with who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

Are you a dirty hippie, especially one who smoked pot? Straight to hell:

(...from above)

LOL....

What do you say BL2, Takitez wants to give Kenny Boy Lay a pass. A guy that cost many a hard worker a lot of money. And there is a pretty good argument that he gave himself a dirt nap so his brood could not be sued out of his ill gotten gains. If the rest of the crooks didn't off him.

But for that you can go to heaven. He thinks Takittothebank is a better name for our judgmental zealot.

I see.... so you assumed I gave Ken Lay a pass... no wonder you and Hans are so 'exercised'.

(I thought I just described the circumstances and the potential).

As for Lennon, I'm convinced he died an atheist. You can disagree and chastise me on this one.

I see.... so you assumed I gave Ken Lay a pass... no wonder you and Hans are so 'exercised'.

Exercised, not at all Kenny Boy could very well be in heaven in fact I hope so.

My 'exercised' is over a judgmental zealot actually believing he knows who is in heaven and who is not.

And I'm using standards your faith ascribes.

I think MANY people will be surprised who gets into Heaven and who goes to Hell. Only 1 knows and He isn't talking.

Larry

OK, Zap.

In heaven, three surprises --- 1. you see people you don't expect to be there; 2. you don't see people you expect to be there; 3. you find yourself there.

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I am sorry to be sharing this, but whatever happened happened, no turning back (that is why there is great urgency to repent while one can)... re. John Lennon, he really died an atheist and based on John 14:6 he is not in heaven. (And a South American youth was taken to hell and was shown Lennon there --- Jesus has His own reason for revealing this to the guy, so you better ask Jesus if you have a question over this. Don't ask me).

(And a South American youth was taken to hell and was shown Lennon there --- Jesus has His own reason for revealing this to the guy, so you better ask Jesus if you have a question over this. Don't ask me).

Que the Twilight Zone Music

I have to ask, Source? This ought to be good....

What God wants, God gets. God help us all.
-Roger Waters

"re. John Lennon, he really died an atheist and based on John 14:6 he is not in heaven."

How do you know?

"And a South American youth was taken to hell and was shown Lennon there"

Ah, personal delusions, of course.

Hans, How do I know?

Jesus said: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man [or woman] come to the Father [God] except through me."

Ron Pettey was shown heaven and he saw a young man walk right through Jesus into heaven --- and Ron felt the scripture was literally true on this one. Later he met the mother of this young man and she strangely happened to bring his portrait to the meeting. Ron confirmed for her that her son went to heaven.

I sometimes wonder about the universe. Most people who study it believe that there are many planets populated by intelligent beings. Guaranteed none of them have read the Scripture that the fundamentalists on earth read.
It makes sense that Jesus should have visited all those planets and given them His message. Of course that Jesus would be a different one in appearance to the one who appeared here on earth. Of course, being not of earth, the message would have to be one which they understood, therefore, not the same one Jesus gave us. Per fundamentalists, this means they are all going to hell.

'Tis a very spitefull God who designs the universe so that a billion or a few billion humans are saved and countless billions of humans, and trillions of non-humans are not. Despite being a Christian (Catholic), this is not a God I want anywhere near me. For the record.

its not what you did, its whether your name is kennedy or not..........

Or Bush.

#72 | Posted by Zap at

if you could see me now you would see me bowing to you and thanking you for the comment as I am on record as saying that its time for someone other than bush or clinton...of course at the time I should have said that it was time for someone named

ONENDONE>...and hopefully thats what we've got....

On your deathbed demons (people in the natural cannot see it) will show up and wait to take away your soul --- but for those in Christ, God's angels will be there to escort the soul to heaven (Luke 16:22).

What do you say BL2, Takitez wants to give Kenny Boy Lay a pass. A guy that cost many a hard worker a lot of money. And there is a pretty good argument that he gave himself a dirt nap so his brood could not be sued out of his ill gotten gains. If the rest of the crooks didn't off him.

But for that you can go to heaven. He thinks Takittothebank is a better name for our judgmental zealot.

#76 | Posted by Zap at 2009-01-02

what does it say that you are still talking about lay and not about this ponzi guy.........could it be because lay was in texas????

and in a somewhat similar story I read the other day that people in california were still bitching about energy shit like they did before we found out what a bunch of lousy crooks REALLY were running enron................so why didnt they fix that?

and I see some references to lennon which reminds me of george carlin

I wonder what he is saying now..........you know if he could talk to us....would his whole deal about religion be something WAY different or would he be telling us...see I told you so....

and I really dont want to get all this 'out there' with questions like this but on a yearend retropsect they showed him since he died this year and I was just wondering where his soul is and what his soul is doing..........

"Ron Pettey was shown heaven ..."

He was on drugs at the time. Sounds like an advocacy for taking drugs, so you too can possibly see heaven.

FYI, there comes a point whether you choose to believe or you choose to disbelieve --- God will respect that. God will not interfere with your FREE WILL.

And one day: A PARTING OF WAYS WILL HAPPEN. Eternally.

(As for Ron Pettey, yes he was on plenty drugs for treatment; but once your spirit leave the body, you are ten times more aware than when you can be in the morning when sober).

what does it say that you are still talking about lay and not about this ponzi guy.........could it be because lay was in texas????
~BL2

I didn't start with Lay he was on the table, pun intended, I just picked him up since he was already here. Don't get all defensive with me, I really like Texas. Well Houston could be an exception.

"Hans, How do I know?"

Because you make it up. Your version of Christianity bears no resemblance to anything anyone believes, Christian or otherwise.

Jesus said: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man [or woman] come to the Father [God] except through me."

Nothing in there about John Lennon being in hell. Nope, nothing at all. Because no one knows what was in Lennon's heart when he was murdered.

"Ron Pettey was shown heaven ..."

He was on drugs at the time. Sounds like an advocacy for taking drugs, so you too can possibly see heaven.

An orgasm on ecstacy be a good candidate for feeling like you've gone to heaven, and mushrooms are good for thinking about heaven (or hell), but if you really want to go there and talk to God, you need to smoke DMT.

And one day: A PARTING OF WAYS WILL HAPPEN. Eternally.

I'm just baffled by how you know all of this fascinating information, Takitez.

"And one day: A PARTING OF WAYS WILL HAPPEN. Eternally."

Takitez, that is true. God will then take to God all those who lived as God wished them to. And reject those who exhibit hubris and thus reject God. Especially those who brought false witness in the name of God, those who judged others in the name of God.

Takitez

Thanks for the link hell there have been so many visitors to Hell just from that site I suspect next month they will be running junkets to Hell*.

* No BL2 I don't mean Houston

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When we get to Heaven we will meet ever* living entity that has come before us.
~The Book of Zap

*Including Buffalo Bob but he will deny it.

Personally I will be on the 18th hole of a gorgeous beach CC surrounded by every one of the wonderful dogs I have shared time with trying to teach BL2 how to putt. Of course he will insist his putting would be fine if there was only a windmill to shoot at.

"Zap, you will find it here....
spiritlessons.com"

Well, there you have it! A Web site!

Hans

"An orgasm on ecstacy be a good candidate for feeling like you've gone to heaven ... you need to smoke DMT." - Zombie

Haven't take ecstasy ever, so I'll take your word for it. Likewise DMT. Don't think that highly of orgasms, though. Did think I was in heaven pretty often when dancing with my wife to really good dance music.

"I'm just baffled by how you know all of this fascinating information, Takitez."

Here ya go, ZombieHunter:

This has all been really amusing, but GTG.

Happy New Year to all!

"Happy New Year to all!"

And to you as well, Zap!

Hans

Here ya go, ZombieHunter:

The Conservative Perversion of God's Holy Word
(otherwise known as takitez's gospel)

Pretty much explains the whole thing.

Wow, it all makes sense now... by the way, most of you are going to burn in hell with Ghandi.

"could it be that the current religious interrpretations of god are WRONG?"

Best statement of the entire thread and I second the motion.

Thx folks for all your comments and judgments.

The site includes a lot of what we call extra-biblical (different from non-biblical) elements. They were revealed to shed further light on already established doctrines of scripture and to show the seriousness of the afterworld. Some areas needed further explanation too --- but I hope some of you who have some Bible background already will see things and burn the scales off the spiritual eye (Acts 9:18; Ephesians 1:18).

Whatever you do, please don't go to hell. God does not want you there and so God has provided a way through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). A time will come, sooner or later, you will experience the reality of your CHOICE. FREE WILL.

I posted this the other night in another thread. It's another take on the "get out of hell" free card.

"O my Lord,

if I worship you
from fear of hell, burn me in hell.

If I worship you
from hope of Paradise, bar me from its gates.

But if I worship you
for yourself alone, grant me then the beauty of your Face."

Rabia, an early Sufi from Iraq and one the better known women Sufi poets.