Evidently prior ships like this had been allowed on through, but with this new round of hostilities in full bloom there was little chance Israel would let such a boat through.

There are conflicting stories as to what actually happened, as the story points out.

It's not nice to try to maneuver around a blockading warship of a sovereign power, unless you are accompanied by the U.S. Navy.

They will either shoot you or ram you, guaranteed. The best course is to heave to and retreat.

Ms. McKinney and company got the kid-glove treatment.

Too bad it was not an US flagged vessle.
In international waters, that would be an act of war.

"In international waters, that would be an act of war."

You might have missed it, GBoy, but if you'll check the news you'll see that Israel and Hamas ARE at war.

I think he meant it would be an act of war against the United States.

I think he meant it would be an act of war against the United States.
~SanA

israel didn't allow aid into Gaza before this war of theirs

why would it allow it now

israel has no qualms of killing anyone in their way of doing the same mistake they have made over and over again

which each of their "wars"
they make hezbolla stronger
they make hamas stronger

and they make israel weaker

less and less international support

the last vestige of support that israel has is the american GOP

and they are themselves losing.

Its time Israel had its own liberal revolution and got rid of the Likud and Conservatives on their own end.

they are just as bad as Hamas

lets see who the world conservatives are

hmm

GOP
Likud
Hamas
Hezbolla
Taliban

sounds like being a conservative means you kill in the name of your ideal.

"israel didn't allow aid into Gaza before this war of theirs"

Wrong again, BuzzardBreath. It might be near the time for you to get out the ol' prayer rug and pray for your Hamas brethren though.

"The rockets were fired as Israel let some 100 trucks carrying humanitarian supplies from Jordan, Turkey and international aid groups into the Gaza Strip via the Kerem Shalom border crossing.

In addition, five new ambulances donated by Turkey were allowed into the Strip."

"Wrong again, BuzzardBreath. It might be near the time for you to get out the ol' prayer rug and pray for your Hamas brethren though"

wrong again.. you might want to continue singing "onward christian soldier"

these 100 trucks were JUST let in after a year or so of blockaide

interesting that they let the aid in right before their huge offensive.

"stockpile this stuff cause your gonna need it after the pounding we are going to give your savage asses"

gaza is a prison state

geneva conventions state that an occupying force should be providing the aid

thanks isreal for letting turky and jordon do the job of your government

get rid of conservatism
biggest hate mongerers of the world.. all conservatives

"you might want to continue singing "onward christian soldier"

I think you are confused....there aren't too many Christians involved over there. I've been rooting for the Jews though, what should I be singing? I think my team is winning. Last time I saw the score it was Israel 340: Hamas 4. C'mon, Israel! Run up the score!

"geneva conventions state that an occupying force should be providing the aid"

Get with it, kliffart! Israel isn't occupying Gaza!

Get with it, kliffart! Israel isn't occupying Gaza!

#13 | Posted by jestgettinalong

News reports are they're about to. They occupy the West Bank and have for decades.

jest get with it

the un and america calls them officially the occupying force.

"Last time I saw the score it was Israel 340: Hamas 4."

oh vietnam didn't teach you
its number of deaths that lead to loser

its he who flinches first and runs

watch how israel eventually runs.

the score card is massively in israels favor
but they are still the losers

they don't have a safe place for their home
and hamas lost 250 or so of their soldiers

but probably recruited a thousand new ones from the all the broken families that israel has created with its mass death machine.

silly conservatives

your jock mentatlity of kill first think later always seems to lose.

I saw the score it was Israel 340: Hamas 4. C'mon, Israel! Run up the score!

#12 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-12-30 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

A true sick man here, people like this who lay within our societies bring down civilizations.

"News reports are they're about to."

They will have to in order to totally defeat Hamas.

Did you see my question to you regarding the Philippines?

"watch how israel eventually runs."

Maybe not this time. They should listen to Bret Stephens.

"This is not a counsel of restraint, of which Israel has shown more than enough through years of provocation. It is merely to point out that no ingenious conceit can disguise the fact that war offers no outcome other than victory or defeat. This is one big thing that Hamas understands, and that Israel must as well. The fox cannot beat the hedgehog. But the bigger hedgehog can -- and in this case must -- defeat the smaller one."

I decided to make the risky investment of 2 minutes of my time to read about this retard McKinney.
(I am struck with awe over the kinds of idiots the libs will vote into government)

And after reading about the situation and reading McKnney's comments... my conclusions about her have been reinforced.

Total assclown.

Give it time... she will be throwing a brick through a Starbuck's window any time now.....

Hey Klifferd if Hezbollah and the Taliban et. al. are so evil and rotten, what are your brethren doing about it? You don't see the skin heads in the US calling the shots, do you?

Did you see my question to you regarding the Philippines?

#18 | Posted by jestgettinalong

No.

I read Abbas and other players in the region are rooting for the defeat of Hamas, who do stand in the way of a final peace. However, killing old men, women, and children in another heavy handed and overreaching attack will just create more men willing to die trying to kill Israelis. Hasn't that lesson been made clear for Americans by the repeated NIE's over our invading Iraq that have stated categorically it has created more terrorists?

"A true sick man here,..."

Just getting kliffart worked up.

"...people like this who lay within our societies bring down civilizations."

Surely you don't classify what Hamas has set up in Gaza as a "civilizaton," do you? If you'll recall, they spent some time in "cleansing" Gaza of all those Fatah followers, their own countrymen, once they won power. Right now they aren't too concerned about Israeli civilian deaths and CERTAINLY aren't concerned about their own citizens. Hamas needs to be eradicated and it's gonna take innocent lives to do it. A pox on them.

its number of deaths that lead to loser

its he who flinches first and runs

watch how israel eventually runs.

the score card is massively in israels favor
but they are still the losers

they don't have a safe place for their home
and hamas lost 250 or so of their soldiers

but probably recruited a thousand new ones from the all the broken families that israel has created with its mass death machine.

#15 | Posted by klifferd

Hamas will be gone in a few weeks. Then it's on to Iran ( I hope!)

Wise tactic - to swat the mosquitoes before you turn to face the wolves.

"However, killing old men, women, and children in another heavy handed and overreaching attack will just create more men willing to die trying to kill Israelis."

Perhaps they will finally tire of the policies of Hamas and support Abbas much like the people in Iraq turned against Al Quaeda. At least we can hope so. One thing for sure...there will NEVER be peace as long as Hamas remains operational.

Here's the question about the PI again:

"I saw somewhere the other day that you really loved the Philippines. When/where/why were you there? It was always one of my favorite places too."

"Hamas will be gone in a few weeks. Then it's on to Iran ( I hope!)"

bwahahahhahahahahaha
conservative idealism
always the loser

sorta like how the taliban is finished?
oh wait they have 70% of afganistan back

al qaeda is done.

bombing makes more of them
not less

how many times do you have to repeat the same mistake conservatives?

"Perhaps they will finally tire of the policies of Hamas and support Abbas much like the people in Iraq turned against Al Quaeda"

again al qaeda was a percent of the insurgent forces

america made massive headways on the insurgency when they finally turned the insurgent forces into paid police.

hmm maybe israel should take a lesson from our esteemed General Patreous

peace might be attainable if israel takes the responsiblity of an occupying force along side the david patreous method.

Get with it, kliffart! Israel isn't occupying Gaza!

What's the difference? Israel controls all entry and exit to Gaze - including by sea. They've isolated Gaza for years, and Gaza is the most populated (if not one of the most) land mass in the world. Israel's created a cauldron of resentment and hostility. Why do people expect them to accept their situation?

Hopelessness breeds desperate acts. Life for life's sake is only so valuable. Worse yet, Israel and the U.S. have enable Hamas' growth.

It is most unfortunate.

You guys love to argue about which stick is the best stick to be beat with.

You totally miss the point that another option is to not be beat at all.

Fredo seems to think that Israel has balls or something!!! The fucking cowards will be very happy to kill from their airplanes and helicopters but the sniveling shitstains will never set foot in Gaza in person. Ever since the Internet and Cable TV took away their ability to use human shields, the pussys haven't used soldiers anywhere near real danger.

It is only a matter of time until the cowards start targeting hospitals, power plants, elementary schools and fire stations. Too bad the cocksuckers can't loot the banks from their airplanes or they would be doing that, too.

The rest of the world looks on at this clusterfuck and thinks Israel, Hamas and the conservative fucks in the USA are all a bunch of apeshit homicidal maniacs.

"The rest of the world looks on at this clusterfuck and thinks Israel, Hamas and the conservative fucks in the USA are all a bunch of apeshit homicidal maniacs." - AXE

I may be mistaken, but I think both Dems and Reps publicly support the US policy with Israel. If there are a few pols who don't, they aren't very vocal about it, are they?

the dems and reps support israel in its right to exist and defend itself.

but the gop has openly supported israels methods

I don't think anybody would be crying if that loon's boat was sank and she had to have her hair stylist airlifted to fix her nappy hair for the Al-Jeezera

Hamas, Hezbollah and Jewish hard-liners are all very happy with the status quo and the endless cycle of violence. Unless all three are removed, nothing will change in that area. Good luck with that.

You might have missed it, GBoy, but if you'll check the news you'll see that Israel and Hamas ARE at war.

#4 | Posted by jestgettinalong

This statement is not true. Israel is attacking its own ghetto or open air prison. Hamas is NOT a country, they are a political movement. You cannot declare war against a non-state and we all know there is no Palestinian State.

Right?

"Aid boat with Cynthia McKinney aboard hit by Israelis..."

"...many crackpipes were lost at sea"

Want to see some heeelarious?

Do a google image search on "Cynthia McKinney"

Fredo seems to think that Israel has balls or something!!! The fucking cowards will be very happy to kill from their airplanes and helicopters but the sniveling shitstains will never set foot in Gaza in person. Ever since the Internet and Cable TV took away their ability to use human shields, the pussys haven't used soldiers anywhere near real danger.

It is only a matter of time until the cowards start targeting hospitals, power plants, elementary schools and fire stations. Too bad the cocksuckers can't loot the banks from their airplanes or they would be doing that, too.

The rest of the world looks on at this clusterfuck and thinks Israel, Hamas and the conservative fucks in the USA are all a bunch of apeshit homicidal maniacs.

#30 | Posted by axe at 2008-12-30 11:26 AM | Reply |

LOL not only do they go there, and carry out raids, if given half a chance the civilian population would go there too and build tract housing.

Hey...they didn't recognize her. She changed her hair style.

"There are conflicting stories as to what actually happened, as the story points out." #1 | Posted by OohRah

Not according to whoever wrote this headline:

"Israel Rams Aid Boat with McKinney Aboard"

Then there is this:

"The Israelis have denied their ship deliberately struck the Dignity, telling The Associated Press that the ships collided when Dignity tried to maneuver around the Israeli ship."

Tried to maneuver around the ship? How about:

"the boat tried to outmaneuver an Israeli navy ship and crashed into it, which lightly damaged both vessels"

And now the money quote:

"they tried it several times before with 'three ships,' under the pretense that, as activist Renee Bowyer says so eloquently: "The trip here is to show that obviously no one can stop us."

Wow! Did you know that McKinney was the Green Party nominee for this year's presidential election? I even voted for her (NO WAY was I going to vote for the other goofs). Now, you can accuse the Isrealis of trying to kill a former candidate for President of the United States!!!

By the way.....I want to be clear that I DO NOT support McKinney in supporting terrorists, which is kinda what was going on here.

I cannot quite remember.....

Sideshow BOB or Sideshow MEL ??

Hamas will be gone in a few weeks. Then it's on to Iran ( I hope!)

Wise tactic - to swat the mosquitoes before you turn to face the wolves.

#23 | Posted by Fredo_C at 2008-12-30 10:40 AM |

and you named yourself after the stupid Corleone brother.

Go figure.

He twarn't stupid. He was jest dropped on his head when he was small, is all.

Oh retarded pot smoker HBD is back.....
hey HBD - I got a piece of information you may not have heard before.....

Bumbles bounce !

Oh retarded pot smoker HBD is back.....
hey HBD - I got a piece of information you may not have heard before

Oh you're so funny in a short bus kinda way, lil Fredo!

What's wrong with smoking pot?

What's wrong with smoking pot?

#48 | Posted by LetUsPrey

I can't remember.

Israel is an ally with our full support. Hamas is a declared terrorist organization. It is illegal to give support to terrorists, usually you end up in Cuba. Supporting our allies enemies makes you a de facto enemy target without US support. At best, McKinney should be arrested. If the boat was sunk, the US could nor would not intervene legally or militarily. She is probably alive and not heading for jail because the boat was not American registered.

What's wrong with smoking pot?

#48 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2008-12-30 04:30 PM

Fredo can't figure out which end of the joint he wants to light.

and you named yourself after the stupid Corleone brother.

Go figure.

#44 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe

I gotta admit that IS kinda funny - but my handle is an abbreviation of my actual name, which just happened to come out as FREDO C and I did not notice the Godfather thing right away.
There's some liberal douche here that pops up every now and then. Calls himself "Santino C" ....and Hans thinks it's me.

"I can't remember.

#49 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue "

You can't remember what?

Right Mick. They end up in Cuba unless their last name is Bin Laden.

and you named yourself after the stupid Corleone brother.

Go figure.

#44 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe

I gotta admit that IS kinda funny - but my handle is an abbreviation of my actual name, which just happened to come out as FREDO C and I did not notice the Godfather thing right away.
There's some liberal douche here that pops up every now and then. Calls himself "Santino C" ....and Hans thinks it's me.

#52 | Posted by Fredo_C at 2008-12-30 04:37 PM

Then give me a fucking funny flag.

It is illegal to give support to terrorists

It's also illegal to give foreign aid to an undeclared nuclear state.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear state.

Ergo, all aid to Israel is illegal.

Don't worry nobody is gonna throw Dumbya in Gitmo fer that. In point of fact it was Nixon who first encouraged Israel to adopt a "don't ask don't tell" policy in terms of Israel's nuclear program and every POTUS since him has followed suit.

On Topic?

Israel is determined to prevent food, medicine and other humanitarian aid into Gaza and will stop at nothing to achieve this aim.

McKinney is lucky she wasn't killed.

Be Well.

Then give me a fucking funny flag.

#55 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe

Hey there big fella I'm not into that guy on guy shit or whatever man. Sorry. I just wanna argue politics here.

It's also illegal to give foreign aid to an undeclared nuclear state.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear state.

Ergo, all aid to Israel is illegal.

#56 | Posted by dethspud

Hey legal scholar you better go brush up on what's legal and not legal about cell phone camera use in the Chuck E Cheese bathroom

Hey there big fella I'm not into that guy on guy shit or whatever man. Sorry. I just wanna argue politics here.

#57 | Posted by Fredo_C at 2008-12-30 04:41 PM |

deep left field.

"I think you are confused....there aren't too many Christians involved over there."

True, they've been driven out never since the Israelis moved in. They've also been driven out of Iraq since the Yanks moved in.

There they go again, acting just like a bunch of Nazis.

Kill a Jew, you're labeled a terrorist in American Media. But, Jews killing Arabs are always just defending themselves. F-16s against bottle rockets.

Hey people. Maybe Israel made a mistake. Maybe they thought they were ramming the USS Liberty? Hehehe.

Hey all you morons like "nutcase"

here's what I challenge you to:

I, having never been to Israel, and am basically just a plain old American looking guy....will go right now and get on a plane to Tel Aviv and get off the plane, and walk around the streets with an image of the American flag on my shirt.

And one of you terrosrist dick loving assholes like nutcase or Klifferd, or whoever, go over to Tehran, or Islamabad, or Damascus, and do the same thing.

WE'LL SEE WHICH one of us gets treated like a fellow human being and receives basic respect and good will (hint: ME) ...and which one of us gets tied up and our heads sliced off on Youtube ( Uh oh! that would be the other guy)

Deal?

They should have sunk the boat , America would be much better off without this traitor

FREDO

Go to Israel disguised as a Palestinian and report back to us on how much respect you get.

I play backgammon online with several Iranians - most in their 20's and 30's. They don't have a beef with U.S. citizens. They want economic opportunity and have about the same opinion of Ahmedinejad as they do of Bush - both juveniles in men's bodies who stand in the way of peace and progress.

AU your point is valid and I anticipated that point as I was writing so that is why I included the other cities. so then we'll send you to Islamabad or Damascus, or Kabul or whatever.

gonna miss ya big guy.

Oh and AU, BTW you want me disguised as a Palestinian - WTF

you go to those other cities with the tall jew hat and big jew curls - I'll wait to hear from ya.

my point was how do both cultures feel towards AMERICANS.

Are you drinkin already?

AU arrives in Tora Bora -

disguised as Super Jew .....

AU arrives in Tora Bora -

disguised as Super Jew .....

www.bangitout.com

#68 | Posted by Fredo_C

I'm all verklempt!

They want economic opportunity and have about the same opinion of Ahmedinejad as they do of Bush - both juveniles in men's bodies who stand in the way of peace and progress.

Please tell everyone about the Bush Embargo of Iran in 1979. I would love to her the story. Like I said, you are obsessed with blaming Bush for every ill. Now going back to 1979.

Ugandan rebels have killed more than 400 people in northeastern Congo since Christmas.

where is the worlds outrage,and where are the hundreds of news crews with wall to wall reporting? gee,their to busy covering poor hamas and the evil jews.

Fredo C.
The "mentally disabled" Corleone brother.

Zionist Nazis Have to Pay!!!

Sooner or later this fight has to be brought to the streets ansd cities of America! The Zionist Nazis and their willing supporters must be made to pay!!!

Sooner or later this fight has to be brought to the streets ansd cities of America! The Zionist Nazis and their willing supporters must be made to pay!!!

just one more peace loving muslim.

LIB OVERBOARD!!!

I always wanted to say that. I wish I could have seen that boat load of libs rammed. I would have laughed.

The article even mentioned one of the humanitarian boats was named Liberty, and then went on to explain how the Israelis attacked this US ship in international waters. Just a case of mistaken identity though. Pffft. Looks like this story is finally hitting the main stream. Looks like the Zionist propaganda machine, aka US mainstream media, is springing a few leaks. =)

Here is another gem, where Israel commits an act of terrorism against the United States. They were caught (by the Egyptians) red-handed: Operation Susannah also known as The Lavon Affair. In 2005, the Israeli PM lauded the team that killed the Americans and others.

Have mercy on suckers like "Justgettingalong". Singing some forlorn American patriotic tribute to Israel, as they pork us in the ass. Just a victim of right wing prop...

Such Israeli aggression in international waters is not without precedent.

Let's not compare the Liberty with what constitutes a boarding.

Cynthia McKinney? Please. Just a power stunt gone stupid. Look at ME.

Well, if you wanted to ferry genuine humanitarian assistance I should think you'd approach Egypt and shame them if they denied access.

Of course it's not smart to assist the enemy in any way until they capitulate and cease fighting. If they bought guns and rockets instead of medicine then they choose wrong. Running what constitutes a small nation on a program of hate, failing to negotiate reasonably, and then using any cessation of hostilities to rearm and attack redux.

Just let Canuckistan try that.

Enough is Enough, eh?

Just a victim of right wing prop...

Is it just me or is anybody else still having trouble getting their head around this "right wing Jew" meme.

Fredo,

What you're really saying, which is true, is that everyone in the world, except Israel, is sick and tired of us, our frauds, our wars, our bullshit. Many hate us.

There are real reasons for this. Ever wonder what they are?

NUTCASE,

You are just projecting your obvious self-hated. As a child how did you feel about your father?

Thom the Shrink

You totally miss the point that another option is to not be beat at all.
#29 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Thank you for most logical post on this board Lipzoidial.

I don't know why, but this headline made me laugh out loud just picturing in my mind the indignant look on McKinney's face. If she were the only person on board, I'd have hoped for an Israeli bullseye that would have turned her into shark chum.

If she[McKinney] were the only person on board, I'd have hoped for an Israeli bullseye that would have turned her into shark chum.

#83 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-12-31 12:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

You'd like to assassinate McKinney?

How dare a much needed ship full of medical supplies and surgeons - like many others that brought humanitarian aid in recent weeks - be allowed to enter port while Israel bombs, or that people care enough about human beings to bring them into dangerous territory. Not like there aren't a lot of bleeding women and children among the wounded who may die for lack of medical attention.

There are 1.4 milion people in Gaza
There are 20,000 Hamas

There are diabetics, heart patients, elderly, children - people with all kinds of afflictions as there are in any city who had nothing to do with firing a rocket. Should all of them be cut off from food and medical supplies as they've largely been for months because of the actions of the handful who fired rockets that killed one person?

You'd like to assassinate McKinney?

#84 | Posted by BetelG

well?

You'd like to assassinate McKinney?

#84 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-12-31 12:54

Sorry, I forgot you two were hooking up for New Year's Eve.

Another time, perhaps. lol

I don't know why, but this headline made me laugh out loud just picturing in my mind the indignant look on McKinney's face. If she were the only person on board, I'd have hoped for an Israeli bullseye that would have turned her into shark chum.

#83 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-12-31 12:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

LOL!

Betelg

I said "...if McKinney were the ONLY person on board..." and never implied I'd want the entire ship to sink taking down all hands on deck. And you know it.

And I don't know why Israel doesn't try to beat Hamas at its own game by having Israel be the one who provides food, medicine, clothing, etc, for the desperately poor people of Gaza instead of letting Hamas do it.

That's the only reason Hamas has such a stranglehold on the majority of desperately poor people of Gaza in the first place. It's only because Hamas provides for all their needs and not because the people of Gaza believe in Hamas' ideology and religious beliefs.

"lets see who the world conservatives are
hmm
GOP
Likud
Hamas
Hezbolla
Taliban
sounds like being a conservative means you kill in the name of your ideal."

astute (or simply obvious) observation, KLIFFERD.

I said "...if McKinney were the ONLY person on board..." and never implied I'd want the entire ship to sink taking down all hands on deck. And you know it.

It's clear that you would just like to see McKinney dead. I never said or implied otherwise.

It's clear that you would just like to see McKinney dead. I never said or implied otherwise.

#92 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-12-31 02:05 AM

Oh please...I see dry humor goes right over your head.

She's an idiot (and your New Year's Eve date) but I've never wished mortality on anyone. Although, I must say, you're coming mighty close to being the first. lol

I doubt the 'peace protesters' were going along with the surgeons to Gaza to hold signs and chant. Most likely they were going to carry cargo and volunteer once they got there.

It would have been smart for Israel to ensure people ate and had medical supplies. They sent the first very small shipment of food and drinking water (four trucks for a city of 1.4 million) into Gaza the day before the bombing began. They've had Gaza blockaded for months. Shut down phones. Cut them off entirely. There's been no running water in much of Gaza. Must be a real party for the other 1.38 million non HAMAS people.

CC-
She's an idiot (and your New Year's Eve date) but I've never wished mortality on anyone.

If she were the only person on board, I'd have hoped for an Israeli bullseye that would have turned her into shark chum.

Whatever.

(lol)

She's an idiot (and your New Year's Eve date)

#93 | Posted by CalifChris

Why is that?

"Hamas is a terrorist organization, supported by Iran, that does not represent the legitimate national interests of the Palestinian people but a radical Islamist agenda that seeks to deny peace for the peoples of this region."
Hamas was the popular choice of Palestinians at the last election. It is entitled under international law to take up arms against an illegal occupier and invader. If it is supported by Iran, so what? Israel receives mega-support from the US. When it comes to terror, it is Israel's conduct which fits the US definition of terrorism so perfectly see Bush's Executive Order 13224, Section 3.


SHOULD THE US GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY COMPLAIN OVER ISRAEL'S ATTACK ON US CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY?

vote here:>)

Cynthia McKinney SLAMS Israeli Navy

FuckWad Thom,

Think man. Free markets only enrich the biggest fish. How many countries have we starved, bombed or rigged their economic system through the miracle of compound interest which exceeds their growth rate? On the last count we've done it to ourselves with bullshit economic theory. Greenspan has admitted as much to Congress.

Would you like to work in a Congolese US owned Mine for $.30/hr while the CEO turned Secretary of Energy pocketed $1 billion. How many dead bodies did he leave in his wake in Congo? During the California Energy Crisis shortages were manufactured and the Bush Administration refused to do anything about those violations of law. Ken Lay had unlimited access to both Bush's and Cheney, selected the countries FERC Chief and sat on Cheney's secret energy task force. Their policies brought us $5 gasoline and bankrupted California for the next decade. In spite of all the cash Enron earned through fraud, they still cratered because they lost billions trying to charge third world countries "market" prices for electricity and no one could pay.

Robert Rubin, of the same Goldman-Sachs as Paulson, sent to "help" Russia during Yeltsin's reign completely destroyed the place and then ran CitiCorp into the ground. But, like Greenspan, they're now billionaires, with their money safely hidden overseas. Real Estate prices are unsustainable, except $40 million NY apartments are doing fine.

Bush savaged Texas first and then the United States, not just the outside world. We have devolved into a third world economy and medieval economic structure. The list of crimes is endless, yet little if any investigations or prosecutions are in progress because of the politicial connections of the criminals. Bush refuses to admit the free market model has failed miserably even as the evidence stares him in the face. Trillions have vanished without discussion and with no discernable economic benefit to the community.

Why? Because elites prosper disproportionally by those rules. There are plenty of places and people that are worse, Mugabee for example, but that's no excuse for fucking up everything in our country.

SHOULD THE US GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY COMPLAIN OVER ISRAEL'S ATTACK ON US CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY?

#99 | Posted by Bani

That would be cute.... if Cynthia McKinney actually was a US Congressho....

Good call klifferd . Right out of the liberal playbook

Page 59 center of page-"Name calling is encouraged in the event you can think of nothing else to say" and "All good liberals should readily resort to belittling (making-fun-of) anyone they don't like"

(No need to respond , you will just use the playbook again)

How about complaining about attacking and killing any US citizen? Like Israel did to the US Liberty, with no consequences. The Liberty attack was intended to cover-up the fact that Israel started the 6 day war.

too bad they did not ram her as well, the world would be a better place with out that wacko.

McKinney is the biggest waste of human flesh there is. period, the womans an eye sore, and just plain crazy. she is a black bigot and GA was better off when this idiot got voted out.

SHOULD THE US GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY COMPLAIN OVER ISRAEL'S ATTACK ON US CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY?

NO

US GOVT IN TOTAL COLLUSION WITH THE ISRAEL NAZIS!!!

SHOULD THE US GOVT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ISRAELI-ZIONIST-NAZI "WAR CRIMES" ATTACKS CYNTHIA MCKINNEY,HER HUMANITARIAN AID SHIP AND AND ALSO ON ISRAEL'S MURDEROUS ATTACK ON THE USS LIBERTY? NO BECAUSE THE US GOVT (UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE BUSH REGIME) IS 100 PER CENT IN CRIMINAL COLLUSION WITH THE NAZI STATE OF ISRAEL!!!

The Israeli Govt and every one of her piece-of-shit supporters is the biggest fucking waste of flesh in human history - but then again theses Sleazy-Slime-Bags couldn't even qualify as being human!!!

I'll take Israel over the Islamic idiocracies surrounding them any day.

To bad they didn't sink the boat. Considering who was on it (Reporters, Ammnesty International and McKinney) that would of removed the world of a bunch of freeloaders that suck the money from the rest of us. We are talking about a former Lawmaker that was an insult to the institution she was susposed to uphold.

you will just use the playbook again

Anybody got a spare copy?

Mine's kinda dogeared from the election and all.

You are forgetting the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. The Israeli pilots claimed that they didn't see a US flag. That was an outright lie. They wanted the Liberty out of the area because the Israeli high command thought it was spying on them and passing information to the Egyptians. So, being in company with a US warship isn't the key to passing through an Israeli blockade. BTW, those Israeli bastards killed 34 of our Navy personnel in that attack.

"US GOVT IN TOTAL COLLUSION WITH THE ISRAEL NAZIS!!! ..."

I love the way pseudo-intellectuals toss around terms like nazi, facist, etc.

I think that if one were to do any research on the rantings of the nazi party (real nazis, not just any one who does not carry mindless liberal water) -- they would find conspiracy theories around the zionists and their collaborators much in line with their own postings. But, again as noted above -- when one does not agree with "me" throw the bombs of insults and name calling to cover my own ignorance and complete lack of topic understanding.

"Nazi" does not mean anyone with an opposing view point. It was a political nightmare where many people perished as enemies of the state, and yes -- the vast majority of the non-combatant victims were Jewish because the nazis created and perpetuated distortions against Jews in an attempt to exterminate them from our planet.

May 2009 may as delusional for you as 2008, I think anything less would be a disappointment for you.

Franka-
re: "Nazi" does not mean anyone with an opposing view point. It was a political nightmare where many people perished as enemies of the state, and yes -- the vast majority of the non-combatant victims were Jewish because the nazis created and perpetuated distortions against Jews in an attempt to exterminate them from our planet.

Where are you when the Nazis post comments?

Belteg - I know there is a resurgence of the Nazi party in various countries, and having had a very unpleasant skin head encounter in Paris I am no fan. But the term "Israeli Nazi?" Anti-semitism was a pillar of the National Socialist party, the party standardized its propoganda in this area. The mindless bomb throwing on this blog is just too ridiculous at times ...

IDF VIDEO CLAIMING TO SHOW HIT ON TRUCK FULL OF ROCKETS ACTUALLY HIT TRUCK FULL OF WELDING TANKS

"SHOULD THE US GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY COMPLAIN OVER ISRAEL'S ATTACK ON US CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY?

"NO"
#106 | POSTED BY OULOSTURMIND

Why not?

Is it because she's black, because she's a woman, or because she's a Democrat?