Also to ve considered beyond the obvious evDEVILical bias w/i the US military is the latest connection between Evangelism and the miltary contractors (ie. mercenaries) in Iraq (particularily Blackwater).

The increasing rise in influence of evangelists w/i the American military power structure should be worrying to anyone with half a brain in their head.

Found this in an interesting study on Evangelical Elites in the US Military.

In June of 1954, Colorado Springs bested 582 sites around the country as the location for the new Air Force Academy. At the time, the city was known mostly as a resort community located at the base of Pikes Peak on the eastern side of the Rocky Mountains. The only other educational institution in town, Colorado College (founded in 1874), was known as a left-of-center liberal arts college-hardly a bastion for military conservatism. Yet in recent decades, Colorado Springs has become a Mecca for American evangelicalism. Today, over 100 evangelical groups are headquartered in the town of just 360,000, including Focus on the Family, Compassion International, Promise Keepers, The Navigators, and Young Life.5 Gradually over the years, the Air Force Academy became a campus where evangelicals felt quite at home as the institution was permeated by the evangelical ethos of the local community. This made nonevangelicals increasingly uncomfortable. By 2004 a survey of Academy cadets revealed that 30 percent of them regarded the campus as home to unwanted evangelical proselytizing.

Will we ever grow up?.........

Not if the "True Believers" have anything to say about it. And they're tryin' REAL hard to have the FINAL say.

Will we ever grow up?.........

#2 | Posted by Kenoosh

We either all grow up or we all blow up.

All childhoods end.

Sometimes with mature, adult human beings as the end product.

Other times with little caskets.

Life is choice.

Choose well.

Be Well.

Life is choice.

Choose well.

So it's either believe and hurry on our way toward certain cataclysmic death or don't believe and we're "just peachy keen".

What if I told you there was another way?

What if I told you there was another way?

The only other way is "live and let live", but no follower of any religion (nor even many atheists) seem predisposed to that.

sued after being forced to attend military formations led by Christian prayers.

I'm surprised he didn't die from THAT punnishment.

I personally think it is a good marriage, soldiers and religious nuts.

They both have moral dispensations to kill the unremitting scumish non-believers on the other side.

They both have moral dispensations to kill the unremitting scumish non-believers on the other side.

#8 | Posted by Lipzoidial

And your answer to the deaths on 9/11/01 would be?

"And your answer to the deaths on 9/11/01 would be?"

Oh, I know!!! Invade a country that didn't attack us!
-GWB

And your answer to the deaths on 9/11/01 would be?

#9 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Find the people responsible.

Find Osama bin laden.

And Snippy, Thanks for askin....

Like a true lib, you didn't answer the question dan. In stead you bring something else up.

"you didn't answer the question dan. In stead you bring something else up."

Are you suggesting GWB didn't address the question, and instead did "something else"?

Like a true con: can't take responsibility for anything.

So it's either believe and hurry on our way toward certain cataclysmic death or don't believe and we're "just peachy keen".

~Axiom (body spray)

Wot if Spud told you you didn't have a freakin' clue wot Spud meant there.

Would you be open to hearing it?

They both have moral dispensations to kill the unremitting scumish non-believers on the other side.

~Lips

It says in the book:
Burn n destroy...
n repent, n redeem
n revenge, n deploy
n rumble thee forth
To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side
cause they dont go for whats in the book
n that makes em bad
So verily we must choppeth them up
And stompeth them down
Or rent a nice french bomb
To poof them out of existance
While leaving their real estate just where we need it
To use again
For temples in which to praise our god
(cause he can really take care of business!)

~Frank Zappa

And your answer to the deaths on 9/11/01 would be?

~Snippy.

To not re-elect Bush the guy who let it happen.

Be Well.

/Like an 8 1/2 inch tall talking tatyer o' doom tends to do entering the always ready to rumble Retort
stage left

I'm surprised he didn't die from THAT punnishment.

Or get whacked like Pat Tillman did, right Snippy?

Like a true lib, you didn't answer the question dan. In stead you bring something else up.

#12 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Like a true moron you miss Dan's point. The something else he brought up was Bush's answer to 911.

Invade the wrong country with fraudulent reasons with alternative motives.

Keep talking sparky I'm sure your the brightest light in dumbfuck.

Christian bias is running rapid in the military. They have received 50 complaints in 3 years from 1.5 million solders. That is over 13 complaints a year or .000001% of the troops. Something should be done about this. Good God! I see a squeaky wheel that needs some grease.

If Christian bias offends a solder then imagine how hard it will be for him to tolerate and cope on the battlefield. Sounds like a Section 8 is appropriate.

Personally, I didn't find the bias offensive. I did lodge a complaint after I was ostracized in my HQ platoon because my wife wouldn't attend the commanders wife's prayer group. Then things got really ugly.

So, no, not offensive but not good for the welfare of the unit, either.

Like a true moron you miss Dan's point. The something else he brought up was Bush's answer to 911.

Keep talking sparky I'm sure your the brightest light in dumbfuck.

#16 | Posted by Zap

I know what the congress did. They voted for war. I ask what you would do stupid.

"If Christian bias offends a solder then imagine how hard it will be for him to tolerate and cope on the battlefield."

YEAH!

Except on the Battlefield there is Honor -------- unlike in religious extremism, where there is only hate for those who don't adhere to the same extremisms (ie no honor)!

But please --- continue voicing your support for the "troops" (that you like)!

Personally, I didn't find the bias offensive. I did lodge a complaint after I was ostracized in my HQ platoon because my wife wouldn't attend the commanders wife's prayer group. Then things got really ugly.

So, no, not offensive but not good for the welfare of the unit, either.

~Door2Summer

Spud finds the ostracisation you mention to be offensive and highly unneccessary.

Spud largest problem with the increased influence of evangelicals in the military has to do with the born agains interpretation of various end game scenarios in the bible. Spud has heard military folks talk of the neccessity of supporting Irael one sidedly until Jesus returns and other bits of nuttiness.

If the people involved didn't have access to nukes and clusterbombs and the like Spud could prolly just laff it off but as it is Spud finds the whole situation worrisome.

A self fullfilling prophecy of doom in the making.

But enuff about that.

And your answer to the deaths on 9/11/01 would be?

#9 | Posted by Sniper

Throw the ones that caused it in jail, GWB and Cheney.

I know what the congress did. They voted for war. I ask what you would do stupid.

#19 | POSTED BY SNIPER

They did?

Care to provide a link to a Declaration of War?

Take your time I'm sure you'll find it............................
..

The only other way is "live and let live", but no follower of any religion (nor even many atheists) seem predisposed to that.

Too true, but there are a few.

My uncle and a few others being the only ones that I know. I've always described myself as agnostic. Through some reading I've been doing and talking about the subject with my uncle, I've come to my own conclusion.

Religion has been distorted by doctrine. Religion is a personal thing. It is about one's relationship with God and brotherhood with Jesus.

The doctrines of the world like Baptist, Methodist, etc have taken a historical text and interpreted to the shape they prefer.

Wot if Spud told you you didn't have a freakin' clue wot Spud meant there.

Would you be open to hearing it?

Sure would. Can you manage to grow up a little and address my point without coming across as a jerk? If I misunderstood your point, it's because you don't communicate

It's Axe body spray. There's someone else around here with that handle, but it ain't me.

"I'm surprised he didn't die from THAT punnishment."

That makes two of us. Sadly your being sarcastic,but if this guy would have spoke his mind, I am fairy confident the xtian killers in the military would have tillman'd him as well.

P.S. All you trash who say no atheist in a foxhole, where r u?

That's right, your all gutless, nutless tards.

LM

Throw the ones that caused it in jail, GWB and Cheney.

#22 | Posted by Lipzoidial

You are funny.

we have become a country filled with self-pitying whinners. Believe or don't believe, your choice... if you're the miniscule minority, why should the majority bow to your belief system, or lack thereof... speaking of hypocritical!! When you're drawing your last breath, believe me you won't be praying to Frank Zappa.

"The doctrines of the world like Baptist, Methodist, etc have taken a historical text and interpreted to the shape they prefer"

Are you claiming the bible is historical texts and other religions ripped of their beliefs from it?

I so, please explain. Which bible is historical, and which text are historical? Is it the whole book? Have you explored the fact that the bible is stolen idealogy from pagan "histories"?

LM

I know what the congress did. They voted for war. I ask what you would do stupid.

#19 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Have someone read and explain #11 to you

And again, thanks for askin..

"When you're drawing your last breath, believe me you won't be praying to Frank Zappa."

We on't be praying at all. Wewill be lookin back at our livesand relishing/cherishing eh fact that we LIVED our OWN lives and did so to the fullest. We will have no remorse for things we should have or could have done, we will be regretless. We will embrace death as the natural conclusion to life.

You and your ilk will be praying you didn't waste your time here, that you will hopefully live forever so you have a chance to experience all the things you were to scared or weak to try on your own. Your fear of the end of it all will so consume you that your mind in it's last flailings will go berserker and you will halleucinate(sp) seeing angels, hearing voices and seeing strange lights.....

LM

"I know what the congress did. They voted for war."

#19 | Posted by Sniper

Congress did not "vote for war." The vote was for or against the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002," which granted the president authority to deploy military assets to Iraq. Not quite the same as a formal Declaration of War against another sovereign nation. The US has not formally declared was since WWII. It was a cheap-ass way to go kick another nation's ass without the approval of the American people.

"Does yer nom de blog have sommat to do with Robert Heinlein's immortal 1957 Novel?"

Pete is The Cat!

"why should the majority bow to your belief system, or lack thereof"

Said Osama Bin Laden

They did?

Care to provide a link to a Declaration of War?

Take your time I'm sure you'll find it............................

#23 | Posted by Zap

October 10, 2002
Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
As Delivered

Today we are asked whether to give the President of the United States authority to use force in Iraq should diplomatic efforts fail to dismantle Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapons and his nuclear program.
Bla,bla,bla
So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed.

S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq. I did not say declare war, they authorized the use of force against Iraq. You are picking shit with the chickens buddy.

...if you're the miniscule minority, why should the majority bow to your belief system, or lack thereof

~Joe the Citizen

The real question is why should the majority of Christians be able to make the minority of non Christians submit to their irrational belief system.

The answer?

Cos America was founded partially on the ideal that the minority should not have to submit to the "tyranny of the majority".

Dumbass.

Spud: Would you be open to hearing it?

Axiom: Sure would.

The human race needs to start working together if there is to be any sort of viable future for us. The days of land wars and religious based wars need to be left behind and greater co-operation between the great powers of this earth need to be encouraged.

Spud has no problem with military personnel who are informed by their personal religious beliefs but Spud does have a problem when military policy is based on religious interpretations of an "end times" scenario because that, as Spud previously posited, can easily become a self fullfilling prophecy of doom.

Now, please do explain wot you meant when you originally sed "there is another way".

Be Well.

"If Christian bias offends a solder then imagine how hard it will be for him to tolerate and cope on the battlefield. Sounds like a Section 8 is appropriate."--KBM

Oh, that's just dandy. Following this out to it's logical conclusion, if I don't believe in Jeeebus, I must be crazy and will not be able to perform in combat. Sounds like you need a 55 gallon drum of STFU. And you guys wonder why people run away from organized religion like scalded cats.

And seeing how no one else wants to open the lid on this box of snakes, winking at evangelical proselytizing on U.S. military bases and training facilities just further smudges the line between church and state. When you the have the Commandant of the U.S. Air Force Academy openly encouraging the harassment of non-Christian cadets by other cadets and faculty until they either submit or withdraw their candidacy, you are creating a climate of a defacto state religion at that facility. Not with my tax $$ you don't.

Pete is The Cat!

~Zot.

Spudpoints au go-go fer Zot!

That's one of them oddish novels that Spud has prolly read and reread over a hundred times fer some reason.

Published in 1957, set in the "future" 70's it's a luffly example of retro futurism and the luff triangle thing was also pretty cool and nouveau fer a Heinlein book.

Belle Darkin is a biatch!

Miles Gentry is a shit-head!

Pete RAWKS out loud.

The nudist colony thing was kinda funny too.

The first robot to be mass marketed is a vacuum cleaner?

"Throw the ones that caused it in jail, GWB and Cheney"

Same old tripe offering nothing to what is otherwise an informed, useful debate between grownups.

"P.S. All you trash who say no atheist in a foxhole, where r u? "

According to the left religion is the only thing that causes war so this couldn't be true could it? Idiot!

Army? How about the whole country.

I myself have had to turn Jehovah's Witness's away from my door on numerous occasions. Crazy bastards.

I myself have had to turn Jehovah's Witness's away from my door on numerous occasions. Crazy bastards.
#39 | Posted by nutcase

What are you supposed to do when they can't take a simple "no thank you" for an answer?

Sucks because they won't leave until you're rude to them and then when the finally do leave, they're vindicated in their opinion of you because you had to be rude in order to get rid of them.

Mind you that this is a blanket statement that covers most experiences with supposed "christian" proselytizers.

Nutz...just tell them you're a Mormon. Works every time.

Or ask them why they won't salute the flag. Then tell them the question's rhetorical and quietly close the door. You won't see them again, guaranteed.

Spud-

Yes it is. That and Stranger are my 2 favorite books.

I never experienced any religeous bias while in the US Army (92-95). in my basic training platoon we even had a muslim who read his koran every night with his flashlight. he was razzed because he refused to listen & got us 'dusted' many times not his religeous practices. he was certainly able to attend sevices on post.

"Have you explored the fact that the bible is stolen idealogy from pagan "histories"?
LM"
#28 | Posted by Liberal_Mongrel at 2008-12-30 01:31

source?

Congress did not "vote for war..."

It is a crime against intelligence for Congress to be allowed to authorize the conduct of war while refusing to declare war -- nice and Orwellian of them. I'm sure the over 1 million dead in Korea & the hundreds of thousand of dead killed Vietnam, the gulf war, and the invasion of iraq. let's not even mention the wounded. but I'm not which crime is worse, Congress twisting truth into a more palatable form or morons who point at their actions and reinforce their acts of deception.

er, I'm sure the over 1 million dead in Korea & the hundreds of thousand of dead killed Vietnam, the gulf war, and the invasion of iraq would ignore the semantics.

"Have you explored the fact that the bible is stolen idealogy from pagan "histories"?
LM"

source?
EDB

I'll start with Judean, Egyptian, Greek, Asyrian, Arabian, and Persian Myth.

again............source? Not another string of words.

I don't recall Icis in the old testiment.

I've noticed an increasing attitude within the US Armed Forces that shows a Christian worldview...

...We're ALWAYS turning the other cheek
...and praying for our enemies

Really?

What pagan said "Turn the other cheek", "Love thy neighbor"?

What pagan started a faith without using a sword to convert?

How do you dismiss the archeological documentation and evidence of the bible?

How do you dismiss the historian Josephus?

-------

All this stuff from one soldier who doesn't want to pray before going to face an enemy who will surely try to kill them.

Instead of just standing there with his own silence he has to whine that others who have a faith that he doesn't or won't understand.

EDB, you can start with these.

Bible - Christian Scripture
Qur'an - Islamic Scripture
Yasna - Zoroastrian scripture
Timaeus - A Dialogue on Platonism
Egyption Book of the Dead
H. Oosthout. (1991) Modes of Knowledge and the Transcendental: An Introduction to Plotinus Ennead V.3. Amsterdam.
Boyce, Mary. (1987) Zoroastrianism: A Shadowy but Powerful Presence in the Judaeo-Christian World, London: William's Trust
King, Charles William. (1887) Gnostics and their Remains Ancient and Mediaeval. London: Bell & Daldy.

Not that I expect that you would actually read any of them. They might force you to challenge your preconceived notions of Christian superiority and uniqueness.

As for JW at the door--

I tell them what church we attend and they leave.

Do what Oorah does--get a stick and go tot he door with the guard dog. (or something like that ;o))

What pagan started a faith without using a sword to convert?

I'm sure I could tell you quite a few if the Christians hadn't been so thorough when they killed them all off.

How do you dismiss the archeological documentation and evidence of the bible?

There's a big difference between saying that such and such a city was such and such a distance from the Jordan river and claiming that a self-proclaimed god incarnate was resurrected. You can dig up a city. I've yet to see any archaeological evidence that supports any supernatural claims in the Bible, and it's not like the Bible is some infallable archaeological index. Like any myth, it has its roots in fact. There were no witches in Salem, but there was a Salem.

How do you dismiss the historian Josephus?

Josephus was nothing more than early apologist. He begins with a premise that he assumes to be true and either handpicks or concocts facts to confirm it. Some "historian".

And it's pretty hard to claim that Zoro created Chrisitanity when Jesus was here first?

As for JW at the door--

I tell them what church we attend and they leave.

I suggest purchasing a Cannibal Corpse CD for just this purpose...
1.) Crank death metal up to 11,
2.) Go to the door,
3.) Tell Jehovas Witnesses you can't talk because you ate some bad acid yesterday
4.) When they look puzzled, shut door
5.) If they keep knocking, open the door.
6.) Put your hand in your pants and scratch your balls while telling them they're delusional members of a cult until they leave or you get bored.
7.) If they still don't go away, consider resorting to violence- if there is more than one Jehovas Witness, make sure to leave at least one survivor to deliver a message to the rest of the cult so they do not come back.

The last time I had to deal with the fucking Jehovas Witnesses, they kept knocking at my door because they saw my car in the driveway. I was in the shower at the time, and didn't appreciate it. I answered the door naked and they left.

What pagan said "Turn the other cheek", "Love thy neighbor"?

How come xtrian god was stole directly from the tale of mythra, isis, osiris, dionysis and more....

What pagan started a faith without using a sword to convert?

That would be the same as above that your story is a rip-off from.

How do you dismiss the archeological documentation and evidence of the bible? Such as, a ark that can't e found, zero evidence of global flood, zero evidence ofred sea ever parting, zero evidence of immaculate conception, zero evidence r reincarnation, zero evidence of 1st born of entire nation taken and killed, zero writing about the guy unti 60 years after his death by so called eyeitnesses....your evidence is lughable at best. Please site some real exaples of your evidence?

How do you dismiss the historian Josephus?

And it's pretty hard to claim that Zoro created Chrisitanity when Jesus was here first?

Zoroastrianism predates Christianity- get your facts straight. Zoroastrianism was a full-fledged religion by the 5th century BCE. Mazda was doing quite fine in a time when Jesus was half a millenium away. Zoroastrianism didn't "create" Christianity, but its mythos is intertwined with Christian mythos.

LM--you need to watch some History Chanel--you might learn something.

As for--mythra, isis, osiris, dionysis and more....

Where are their scriptures?

...We're ALWAYS turning the other cheek

#47 | Posted by kirk at 2008-12-30 03:27 PM |

give em a clear target.

Murphy- there is more to a belief system that its scriptures. Go to a bookstore and look in the "compartative religions" section. I would refer you to my earlier post, #49, if you want some material to start with, but your earlier comments show that you have no idea what you are talking about, so I don't know if it will be any use to you. If you are so confused as to think Zoroastrianism followed Christianity in time, you have no right to be criticizing the claims of anyone who points out the facts surrounding your religion.

"Where are their scriptures?"

If you have to ask that then it's you who needs history channel. I would recommend looking at the temples in assyria and the pyramids of egypt for some starter clues as to where are these cultures scriptures.

Let's also not forget what your religion did so many other religions historical documents over time.....

Murphy, still waiting fo evidence from your book, but I am yet to see any.

LM

...Believe or don't believe, your choice... if you're the miniscule minority, why should the majority bow to your belief system, or lack thereof... speaking of hypocritical!! ... #27 | Posted by joecitizen at 2008-12-30 01:26 PM | Reply | Flag

Because the US is a secular country, aka separation of church and state. The military is a government department (DoD) under the Executive Branch. If you don't like this arrangement, Iran seems to be a better fit for your theocratic idealogy. Bye!

LM--you need to watch some History Chanel--you might learn something.

I would hardly call the history channel a reliable source. Most of their shows are about ghosts, legendary animals, and UFO's. I guess religious myths do fit well with this theme, though. Even "The Universe" leaves a lot to be desired.

Again, murph, see post 59 for evidence.

"Even "The Universe" leaves a lot to be desired."

Not to intervene here, but what did you view "The Universe" as lacking?

Where are their scriptures?

#57 | Posted by MURPHY

Wow! So you base ALL of your faith on some embellished mythology written completely, 100% by humans and what said humans might interpret from the voices in their heads. Amazing!

'There are no atheists in fox-holes, son'; Larry Craig in a truck stop mens room on I-10.

'There are no atheists in fox-holes, son'; Barney Frank in a truck stop mens room on I-10.

'There are no atheists in fox-holes, son'; Barney Frank in a truck stop mens room on I-10.

As his mouth and ass are getting cock slammed.

"As his mouth and ass are getting cock slammed"

easy vato, we can see ur cyber bulge....

LM

The human race needs to start working together if there is to be any sort of viable future for us. The days of land wars and religious based wars need to be left behind and greater co-operation between the great powers of this earth need to be encouraged.

Spud has no problem with military personnel who are informed by their personal religious beliefs but Spud does have a problem when military policy is based on religious interpretations of an "end times" scenario because that, as Spud previously posited, can easily become a self fullfilling prophecy of doom.

The only way the human race will ever start working together is if they are brought together under the umbrella of the same belief system. The issue that comes up is that this is usually accomplished through violence.

Violence is not the answer.

Love is.

Common ground is the only method to achieve this. Christians and Jews and Muslims have been in disagreement for centuries over the method in which they worship. I submit to you that they are all talking to the same god, but have a different means for addressing him.

Christians use the generic God.
Muslims call him Allah.
Jews call him Yahweh.

I can't really list the other belief systems because I am not familiar enough with them to say what they do or do not believe.

It is a difficult concept to wrap your brain around. It's taken me 20 years to reach my own conclusions based on discussions with my uncle, his friends and my family members. I used to feel the same that others here in this thread do; that religion is all superstitious non-sense.

Call it what you will, but make sure you have all sides of the argument.

"As his mouth and ass are getting cock slammed"

I love it when homophobes let down their guard.

That seems odd that there would be people who claim to be christians in the army of a nation that 89 percent of the population claim to be christions..sedcular my ass, you lefties use that excuse to whine and do whatever "feels" good. Pot heads!!!

sued after being forced to attend military formations led by Christian prayers.

I'm surprised he didn't die from THAT punnishment.

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2008-12-30 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

This from the poster who screamed about people being 'sworn' into office with the Koran.

lol. I just love the ever repetitive themes of
the Republican Right everywhere. Lets see if I
have it right, if you are not a God Fearing, Fallwell Loving Bibblethumping Rightwing Jesuscrat you must be a left wing commie gay lesbian flagburning gun seizing pothead who just strolled in off of the Hollywood U.F.O. ranch.

Hah!! it's so easy to make fun of such small minded people...the script pratically writes itself.

Peace, all you Rightwing Guntoating Neoconfundy
believers of the great Rapture to Never-Never-land...

(grins wistfully at the Chaos about to ensue)...

do whatever "feels" good. Pot heads!!!

#71 | Posted by HillBillyJihad

Yes, you are right, we can't have anyone doing what feels good, because that is baaaaadddddd.

'We must feel miserable to approach godliness' --religious assholes-

but seriously....(smirk)

name calling is really rather a childish
(albeit amusing) past time, and leads to
little in the way of communication on
religious or political matters...uh...for
that matter :-)

I used to be Catholic...but I gave it up
for Lent (bada bing!)

but really...aren't all of us on the same
continuim, somewhere between fanatic
belief and no faith at all. It's all
good, live a moral life, cast the die,
roll the chips, and hope/pray for the best.

God isn't exactly showing up on a daily basis
to reaffirm our faith. So everyone just do your
best. Believe or don't believe, but keep on keepin'
on...

I mean with God's Attendance record, you can't really blame people for doubting in a Personal
God...

ma 2 cents...

maybe he just hasnt made it into a fox hole while people are shooting at him....GET IT GET IT

and last time I heard being in the military was
A VOLUNTARY THING............maybe this issue is just in the way of him getting free education and other benefits from the american tax payer

dont like it

GET OUT!!!!!!!!!

Peace, all you Rightwing Guntoating Neoconfundy
believers of the great Rapture to Never-Never-land...

What does the fact that I...

A: Do not support the current administration or their foray into war with Iraq.

B: Am not a bible thumping, Falwell following believer.

C: Licensed to carry a firearm, concealed.

D: Own multiple rifles and a shotgun.

say about your broad generalization of people?

Zounds man...don't blow a gasket!!
I mean, that wasn't even coherent...

2 things

1). check your meds b4 posting...
2). make sure you list who you are responding to...
it makes more sense that way...

(grins widely)....Happy New Year All !!

p.s.

BushlostOne, BushloverTwo...game over...kaput!
move on.

If Christian bias offends a solder then imagine how hard it will be for him to tolerate and cope on the battlefield. Sounds like a Section 8 is appropriate.

#17 | Posted by KBM

What does being a christian have to do with coping with battlefield fatigue or fear? Can only a christian cope with battle? Does their faith make them better or stronger then the guy next to him?

I am also a Vet and I was also forced to attend religious ceremonies that did not represent my beliefs. I am not evangelical and hated going, to me it was religious mind control. Our god against their god stuff. You also have to do it or you get punished.

But KBM that is a real unenlightened statement you posted their buddy.

Atheists are such annoying crybabies that its hard to give a shit even when they have a reason to cry.

Atheists are such annoying crybabies that its hard to give a shit even when they have a reason to cry.

#80 | Posted by Sully

What does that make all the simple-minded idiots screaming "War Against Christmas"?

Christians hold the scant majority in this country, and have been gently cupping the balls of the Executive office for the last 8 years. Yet you continually make yourselves out to be victims as if the Romans were still feeding your kind to lions in the coliseum.

Spud-

Yes it is. That and Stranger are my 2 favorite books.

#42 | Posted by door2summer

Ah, Spud is grok.

Good eye.

Be Well.

The last thing this country needs is a bunch of christian scrotal sacks with their fingers on the Nuke Button.

Nothing like an 'End-Of-Timer' who dearly misses his/her Jeeezus.