.........ok.........where's Tosser, Kliff and Beekeeper to defend this Neanderthal religion.?....

FTA: The father had agreed to marry off his daughter for an advance dowry of 5,000, as he was apparently facing financial problems

Wow, Wahabists are purely fucking nuts.

Be Well.

**** Wow, Wahabists are purely fucking nuts.
.......#2 | Posted by dethspud ****

......it's perplexing that the search for God invariably leads to following the money........

newsworthy

......it's perplexing that the search for God invariably leads to following the money........

~Skizziks

Aye, perplexing and disheartening, simultaneously.

Deliver unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Deliver unto yer PedoNeighbour (if he has a coupla extra bucks) yer 8 year old daughter cos God is totally cool with the idear.

No, rly!

/yeesh.

Be Well.

.........ok.........where's Tosser, Kliff and Beekeeper to defend this Neanderthal religion.?....

I'm with you guys in condemning this bullshittery, but I think it is important to realize that Islam has little to do with this- don't use a cultural practice as an excuse to beat up on a religion. Islam can be used as rationalzation, but then again any religion is full of wierd shit that can be twisted to support just about anything. I can dig up all sorts of juicy fun from Leviticus or Revelation. This is a culture we are dealing with here, one that has coevolved with religion even before the dawn of Islam. Religions are fairly inoccuous until they get blended with culture and politics into something destructive. Religion is fertilizer. Culture is nails. Politics is diesel fuel. You get the idea.

Arranged marriage as a political/economic practice is a cultural practice in the region that dates back thousands of years. It is as relavent to the most basic tenets of Islam in about the same way as the Easter Bunny is central to Christianity. That being said, in order to keep the tradition alive, people have had to present it in religious terms. No one objects, because then they get flogged, decapitated, or sent to hell. We tolerate these religious wackjobs since they keep our fuel tanks full.

"the plea should be filed by the girl herself when she reaches puberty"

she's not old enough to know whether she's too young for this shit.

Mormons do the same thing. Beat up on the Christians for a while.

Is there no one to protect this child and others like her?

Is there no one to protect this child and others like her?

Nope. The UN won't and can't act and if a Western power went in to try and tame these savages, well. . .see Bush/Iraq.

The girl's fucked -- literally

Not only that but Saudi Arabia has us by the short hairs. They are our number two importer of crude oil.

Larry

**** It is as relavent to the most basic tenets of Islam in about the same way as the Easter Bunny is central to Christianity.
....#6 | Posted by ZombieHunter *****

....is the Easter Bunny raping children or making women a lesser class of humans ?.....

"Geez, have your cake and it too; I'll talk to her."

~William J. Clinton

Well, my mother was white...so,...it...or rather, I don't feel that we...or, I don't feel that the United States should meddle in those issues sacred only to our foreign neighbors."NEXT QUESTION, YEAH, YOU KATHY, NEW YORK TIMES- GO AHEAD...."

~BARACK H. OBAMA

You got a link for that Obama quote or are you just making shit up?

our allies and hand holding friends of Shrub,

putting the lie to Shrub's phoney love of Freedom and Democracy.

Is there no one to protect this child and others like her?

#9 | Posted by suzycreamcheese at 2008-12-22 07:04 AM | Reply |

She has inalienable rights--just ask anyone who says no rights come from the government.

Holy crap, ButtNuggettJohanson comes along to show us what "off my meds" really looks like. If not, then he's El Supremo Douchetits, hat tip to Rob_the_Ahole.

skizziks

just cause the backward saudi court says its ok
doesn't make it ok in islam

If the girl is married then even by ancient sharia standards this is illegal.

and note i say ancient cause the laws haven't been updated in 5 to 8 hundred years and they need updating bad if they want to be considered legitamate.

According to the practice of sharia as it SHOULD be then it should not only fit into world accepted contemporary law but work to be even better.

I agree its bullshit

and this is not a good thing.

I've said it a billion times
fuck saudi arabia's bullshit wahabi backward government and law system

You got a link for that Obama quote or are you just making shit up?

#16 | Posted by RastaCyborg

Does it matter? It isn't our fight anyhow. The US should keep out of that kind of shit. We arn't the police and jury for the whole world.

No man, I'm flyin'...

...I thought you had be 12 years old to post on here- Does your dad know about this ?

she hasn't hit puberty making her marriage illegal.

and the dowry is the girls.

if the father took it as a purchase price for the hand of his daughter

then he is breaking the rules of islam which forbids the sale of daughters for money.

(which was common practice is arabic culture and apparently still is)

Islam banned this practice which is still being followed and obviously upheld by the backward unhumanitarian saudi court system.

the aforementioned addressed to REAGAN58

Yeah let's have a constructive argument over the next 100 years regarding any consistency to the MO of the Islamic religion....

this isn't the religion this is pure culture

backwards culture

Rights are not merely given, they're earned. You do your part- the will do its part.

#19 | Posted by bnjohanson at 2008-12-22 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag

So, this girl needs a machete and a gun--is that what you are saying?

All rights come from the government---end of story. This girls government says she has the right to stay married until puberty. If there is another government that can override that decision--so be it--but until then her rights are what ever the ruling government says they are. Rights are given by the government---whether you EARN them or not is meaningless.

I think the Saudis must be nice people. Bush hugs them and kisses them and holds their hand, so yeah, they must be good people.

Buffalo Bob- Take the potatoes out of ears...

I was talking about the US moron. You want rights elsewhere, bring US Dollars.

bnjohanson,

Lets see if I can decode your gibberish.

Mine Safety Codes in the US fill a large desk. Lawyers spend more money writing and then dodging those laws on behalf of Employers than safety programs cost. To legally enforce a citizen's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, you need cold hard cash.

There's no money in actual safety, but there's big money in the paperwork process.

Translated into Arabic, if she were a princess this wouldn't happen.

Looks to me like the ideas of Freedom and Democracy are being exploited by a ruling class, in the same way they use religion and phoney economic theory to rob stupid working stiffs blind. It is better than guns and torture, I'll give you that.

I was talking about the US too, chump. All rights come from the government---what part confused you. But that fact stands world wide. All rights every where come from whatever government is in control.

You say rights are earned--not given. You are mistaken. Clear enough for you?

She needs to find a way to run away.

All rights come from the government

um, bOoB -- that memory thing of yours again: You've done the 'allrightscomefromthegovernmen
t' thing about 4 dozen times in the last year.

"All rights come from the government---end of story."

I hate to rain on your parade, Boob, but wiser men than you deny that statement. According to them, these rights, endowed by the Creator, were not granted by government. You should probably stick to proving fake moon landings and the like.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

da bOoB has divested himself of America and started his own country, so he does not believe what the founding fathers of America have to say about rights. He only cares what the founding fathers -- oops, father -- of bOoBistan (himself) has to say about rights.

So I guess in bOoBistan, that's the way it is.

I'm glad I live in America!

In the end, BUFFALO BOB and NUTCASE are exactly right in that when they lose their teeth (again), they have the right to collect their coin from the tooth fairy.

...Next question, go back to talking to the hand you morons.

Hey, Boob! Good news! Someone has posted a thread titled: "Smokestack on the Moon." Get theeself over there immediately!

I hate to rain on your parade, Boob, but wiser men than you deny that statement. According to them, these rights, endowed by the Creator, were not granted by government.

Back up your words loud mouth. Show where those words have any meaning---show where the Creator says anyone has ANY rights.

2:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now pay attention you fracking moron---if those words were true, this girl would have rights--she doesn't---you are mistaken. No Creator ever endowed anyone or any thing with rights. EVER---GET IT?????

Who the FACK said Jefferson spoke for any Creator anyway you fecking idiot.

SO--back your words or STFU. Simple isn't it?

;-)

"Islam banned this practice which is still being followed and obviously upheld by the backward unhumanitarian saudi court system."

Oh that's a relief, it's good to know that only Saudi Arabia's Muslims practice backwards and disgusting rules for women.
Women is all other Muslim countries have equality and freedom.
Riiight.

I used to disagree with Buffalo Bob about rights but really his point is undeniable. Platitudes about the origin or rights are just platitudes.

It really is a charming culture.

Except, as the Socialist Jack London pointed out, a General Strike will bring down any Government.

In China, Cuba, Haiti, Mexico, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia... the principal weapon of persuasion is the gun. In the US and Western Europe its the TV. Both tools are there to maintain an unbalanced distribution of wealth.

John Lennon's People Power is real, they just have to have the intelligence and courage to demand it.

No man, I'm flyin'...

...I thought you had be 12 years old to post on here- Does your dad know about this ?

#23 | Posted by bnjohanson

So I guess that means you don't have a link for the Obama quote, which means you probably just made it up.
Sniper doesn't care because believing made up horseshit is his thing. The rest of us would prefer that you not spread your manure around without at least attempting to back it up with facts.

danni

i like you so please don't be naive in this statement

"Women is all other Muslim countries have equality and freedom.
Riiight."

the right is there in almost all muslim countries
its the cultural practice that prevents woman from advancing

like i said in another post
my father's family which is completely middle class and average in lahore pakistan have 4 Female Doctors.

2 were in the military for a while.

The leaders of several muslim countries have been woman... unlike many western countries.

the most extremist form of islam comes from saudi arabia

bin laden was an arab and convinced a huge following of illiterate afghans and pakistanis to join him.

the 911 cast were all saudis and arab.

the extreme anti woman laws are practiced in saudi arabia and arab countries..
i will totally agree
that the culture is very backwards through out the asias and middle east toward woman.

that exists in non muslim asian countries too... like woman being arrested in south korea for adultry.

This is why Americans have been traditionally isolationist and tried to be self-sufficient, as a country. With the exception of Europe, they really don't like us, want us, need us, (it seems), and we in return have no respect for their cultural extremes. American tolerance, such as it is, is limited, and I honestly believe the rest of the world sees us as a gangly teenager, curious, but uneducated, and not at all inclined to be understanding.

I earlier claimed that that arranged marriage in the Middle East has as much to do with Islam as the Easter Bunny has to do with Christianity. Someone replied:

....is the Easter Bunny raping children or making women a lesser class of humans ?.....

Remember the Easter Bunny is a metaphor (not real, in case no one told you). Christianity bears the same faults as Islam or any other religion, and can be used to legitimize any number of reprehensible cultual practices. Try slavery on for size.

Makes me want to consume barrel after barrel of their precious crude... NOT.

Makes me wish that the mystics and scientists ran the show instead of clerics and politicians.

What a dumb decision! Why not just say the judge says "wait until the man rapes her"?

Well lets look at logic. If she's too young to get a divorce maybe she was too young to get married. Those camel jockeys over there can't think worth a pound of shit.

"Geez, have your cake and it too; I'll talk to her."

~William J. Clinton

"Thes eare the people I'm proud to send Americans to die for."
Anybody named Bush.

And as far as "a creator" giving anybody "inalienable rights", Bob's right (finally). Find that phrase in the Constitution. Anywhere.
It's in the Declaration of Independence, the promo ad of the Revolution, not the final contract. Try and defend the inalienable right to Life with the death penalty....

Rights and laws are traditionally hereditary (we've always done it), eventually codified. There are as many inalienable rights as there are smokestacks on the moon.

What type of a gift do you get a Saudi child bride for her bachelorette party? I know! How about a Mattel My first dildo.

Frank2.5",
You should have taken the handle "humorrapist", but seing as though it's already taken you should probably just kill yourself for Christmas.

And Jest-just to make your head explode a little more-the only reason "creator' was even in the Declaration was to sell the right to revolution against a monarch to the other monarchs who ran Europe-they all saw their crowns as divinely given, so the Founding Fathers had to convince them that they were serving a higher divine mission by restoring the rights the "creator" had given everyone.

Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

OOPS, it looks like THE PEOPLE retain all rights. We merely loan a few to the government in order to have a smoother society.

I'm glad I live in America!

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-22 12:09 PM |

Ditto for canada. I can't imagine what the mother is going through, knowing that her ex husband sold her baby to a pedo for $5K.

OOPS, it looks like THE PEOPLE retain all rights.

"The people", of course, being the government. What rights do you have that aren't in some way regulated by the government?