"landmark lawsuit"? You mean the one that will be laughed out of court?

That one huh?

well, maybe cheney will confess to this one, too?:>)

Bani- since Cheney couldn't *legally* order something like this he won't be prosecuted.

-Goatman.

Alex Jones. Planetprison.com. An Army Spc suing Cheney.

*yawn*

'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers' some limey whose name escapes me at the moment.

Cheney was in charge giving orders. When the President isn't around---who's in charge at the White House? In addition, the President delegated certain responsibilities to Cheney, so his ability to give orders is not in question.

It seems clear they knew the plane was coming in from the count down Cheney was as to how far out the plane was, and the Air Force waiting for orders. The military personnel telling Cheney how far out the plane was and asking Cheney if the orders had changed needs to be found.

The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers' some limey whose name escapes me at the moment.

#5 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2008-12-20 04:40 AM | Reply

YEAH--then we can start killing with no problems at all.

When the President isn't around---who's in charge at the White House?

That happened for about ~4 hours ~4 years ago when Bush delegated to Cheney while he had a cyst removed or something. I don't think Cheney did that much during that short time.

So when Bush goes to Florida----and the White House is threatened---no one can make decisions---they have to get in contact with Bush? So when Bush goes to Florida, and a jet is on its way to the Pentagon---no one is in charge? Is that how the chain of command works?

I see Goatman has maxed out with his reading and responding to posts---limited to ten words of comprehension per post. Poor guy---that's what eating those paint chips will do as a child. I know they are pretty and taste great, but look what they did to Goatman. He can't read more than ten words in a row.

Cheney was in charge giving orders. The President delegated certain responsibilities to Cheney, so his ability to give orders is not in question.

It seems clear they knew the plane was coming in from the count down Cheney was as to how far out the plane was, and the Air Force waiting for orders. The military personnel telling Cheney how far out the plane was and asking Cheney if the orders had changed needs to be found.

Is that site a planetprison mirror? Got some MSM stuff, bOoB?

Once again larry drops facts like bombs.

BTW Goatman I didn't make any of that up. It's typed too neatly. Now what say You about Dick Cheney not having "Any" power???

Larry

Maybe the dUmmY would like a memo from Cheney---or a White House press release on how they planned 911---I doubt the dUmmy would even believe that. In fact, I'm sure of it. He would believe himself over the perpetrators of 911 if they disagreed with his mindset. Facts don't make a whit of difference to zombies.

Facts are if Norm Minetta is not lying---Cheney is as responsible for the Pentagon attack as any terrorist, and in my eyes more---since he could have stopped it with just a word or two.

Facts are Norm Minetta was not heard by the 911 commission.

Facts are Ted Olson never got that phone call from his wife Barbara Olson on the Pentagon plane.

Facts are there are a lot of questions unanswered.

Facts are there should be absolutely NO questions left unanswered.

Where's Goatman??? Snicker Snicker

So when Bush goes to Florida----and the White House is threatened---no one can make decisions---they have to get in contact with Bush?

Yes, bOoB -- that's exactly what happens. In my country (America) we have had these devices known as radios and telephones. Had 'em around for over 100 years.

Don't they have them in bOoBistan yet?

Where's Goatman??? Snicker Snicker

I'm right here, Larry. Just had breakfast. I don't take a laptop into the galley with me when I eat. snicker snicker.

I had forgotten why the "bush is cheney's puppet" stuff got started.

Thanks for the reminder, larry.

NP Alexandrite. Cheney pulled the strings and Dubya did His bidding.

Larry

Yes, bOoB -- that's exactly what happens. In my country (America) we have had these devices known as radios and telephones. Had 'em around for over 100 years.

Don't they have them in bOoBistan yet?

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-20 06:19 AM | Reply | Flag

So what was Bushs response when that plane was heading for the Pentagon dummY? Did he leave his magic phone in his other pants?

Who made the call to Bush? No one? Who was supposed to make the call?

What time was the call made?

You are truly a dUmMy. You earn the title every day in many ways. If you are wondering what Larry Mohr is handing you---it's your ass---didn't you notice it was missing?

;-)

So what was Bushs response when that plane was heading for the Pentagon dummY? Did he leave his magic phone in his other pants?

Who made the call to Bush? No one? Who was supposed to make the call?

What time was the call made?

???

WTF are you talking about? Which call? Which trip to the Pentagon? I'm sure he made more than one during his 8 years as President.

We're about out of snickers around here.

I do think it is touching that LaRry MohrOn and b00b are bounding.

The suit is frivolous and the courts should levy heavy sanctions both on the plaintiff and the attorneys. This misuse of the courts for political purposes requires a response that will discourage the kooks, whose "activism" knows no bounds, and who seemingly have no respect for society's traditional and successful ways of doing things.

#5 | Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2008-12-20 04:40 AM

'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers' some limey whose name escapes me at the moment.

Here is an excerpt from a defense of lawyers with an earlier attribution of the phrase to Shakespeare.

We have been complicit in designating an elite, the judiciary, to superimpose their judgment on the will of the people

Yeah! Who the fuck set up this stupid system of checks and balances anyway?

We only need two branches of government. A wise and benevolent Leader and a rubber stamp deliberative body to give his dictates the sheen of legality.

WTF are you talking about? Which call? Which trip to the Pentagon? I'm sure he made more than one during his 8 years as President.

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-20 08:28 AM | Reply | Flag

Beats me dUmmy YOU are the one who claims Bush gets a phone call when something comes up at the White House.

I asked:

So when Bush goes to Florida----and the White House is threatened---no one can make decisions---they have to get in contact with Bush?

and you answered:

Yes, bOoB -- that's exactly what happens. In my country (America) we have had these devices known as radios and telephones. Had 'em around for over 100 years.

Don't they have them in bOoBistan yet?

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-20 06:19 AM | Reply |

and then I asked:

So what was Bushs response when that plane was heading for the Pentagon dummY? Did he leave his magic phone in his other pants?

Who made the call to Bush? No one? Who was supposed to make the call?

What time was the call made?

Answer up dUmmY---it is your premise that calls have to be made to the President before any defensive measures can be taken in Washington.

I do think it is touching that LaRry MohrOn and b00b are bounding.

#24 | Posted by ozarkannie at 2008-12-20 08:29 AM | Reply

Bounding? I find it amusing that Ozarkannie and Goatman are getting professional at their pas de deux.

Beats me dUmmy

???

Beats you? Yet you are the one who asked 5 different questions about the plane trip.

You really need to get that memory thing checked into, bOoB, or at least overcome this morbid fear you have of your PGUP key.

Good luck with either or both endeavours

I find it amusing that Ozarkannie and Goatman are getting professional at their pas de deux.

You've got me confused with someone else, bOoB. I'm not a ballet fan.

dUmmY only sees three or four words a post. My bad I forgot about his brain problem. Memory of about 8 seconds--on a good day.

You've got me confused with someone else, bOoB. I'm not a ballet fan.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-20 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag

WTF are you talking about

;-)

WTF are you talking about

WTF are you talking about

en.wikipedia.org

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2008-12-20 11:20 AM | Reply | F

You are making no sense. What planet are you from. This is Earth---are you lost?

Try this link then since wiki is apparently above your intelligence level. It has more pictures.

What are you talking about? Lay off the paint chips.

Synopsis:

bOoB: #29 references 'pas de deux'

Goatman: #31 (knowing a pas de deux is a ballet move) "I don't like ballet

bOoB: #33 WTF are you talking about?

Goatman: #34 gives da bOoB a link to pas de deux description

bOoB: #35 You are making no sense

Goatman: #36 Graciously gives another link to pas de deux description with pictures

bOoB: #37 you are eating paint chips

Goatman: #38 gives up trying to educate the ignorant

...Graciously gives another link to pas de deux description with pictures...

*yawn*

#4 | Posted by goatman

Dick Cheney is guilty of WARCRIMES by his OWN admission (yes...*yawn*:>)

duMMy got played with his own tactics and wasn't bright enough to pick up on it.

snicker snicker

;-)

I see boOb and skidmark are some of the only "truthscholars" left. Even Obama blames Osama, but you guys can't!

Don't even try talking to boOb. His infatuation with illogic is boundless. His story is this: he will argue a point until even his bs can't refute logic, then he moves onto the next stupid idea.

So boOb where ARE those planes?
Where ARE the people who flew on them.
How come 99% of all democrats believe it was AQ?
How come the NYT and all major left wing rags believe it was AQ?
Did Obama drink the koolaide too?
Why can't you refute any of the popular mechanics analysis of the destruction?
how can you believe an non-engineer over all the highly ranked engineers who reviewed 911 commission?

Why do you have shit for brains?

OMG I just read the story! YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE. You spent pages denying there was a jet that plowed into the pentagon. The suit says Cheney should have warned them. I guess it's your dumbshit way of talking out of both sides of your mouth.

I remember vividly your stupidity, dude. And I won't ever forget your horseshit. Stew in it liar.

In addition, the President delegated certain responsibilities to Cheney, so his ability to give orders is not in question.

#6 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-12-20 04:48 AM | Reply

well Boob, the only solution is to create two countries.

Isn't that your solution for everything?

well Boob, the only solution is to create two countries.

Isn't that your solution for everything?

#44 | Posted by vernon

the confederates should have won!

Even Obama blames Osama, but you guys can't!

Dave the brave

he doesn't have a choice....

Bani

Very interesting video. It should have its own thread.

I see boOb and skidmark are some of the only "truthscholars" left. Even Obama blames Osama, but you guys can't!

I speak for myself. No one eve said Osama wasn't involved, or that it wasn't his plan. What is being suggested, and shown with certain evidence and circumstantial evidence, is that Osamas plan could never have worked without US government involvement.

Don't even try talking to boOb. His infatuation with illogic is boundless. His story is this: he will argue a point until even his bs can't refute logic, then he moves onto the next stupid idea.

What logic are you talking about? Let's hear some. So far you don't seem to even know what happened on 911. The government would never lie to you would they.

So boOb where ARE those planes?

There is evidence to indicate that some of the flights never existed. That drones took off in their place for radar location. But the question is returned to you---where are those planes---none of them were found.

Where ARE the people who flew on them.

Assuming there were any planes and passengers to begin with, I would say they were all killed in cold blood. If you would blow up the towers killing thousands---what's a few more hundred?

How come 99% of all democrats believe it was AQ?

So if enough people believe something--that makes it true? Is that your logic?

How come the NYT and all major left wing rags believe it was AQ?

There are no left wing rags. The news media is all right wing. Any news media that came out with some of the facts known would be burned to the ground.

Did Obama drink the koolaide too?

What does Obama have to do with 911?

Why can't you refute any of the popular mechanics analysis of the destruction?

It has all been refuted. What are you talking about?

how can you believe an non-engineer over all the highly ranked engineers who reviewed 911 commission?

Again, you highlight your ignorance of 911.

Here is a list of 640 highly qualified engineers and architects that disagree. They have qualifications far in advance of the 911 commission which was not an unbiased investigation.

Here is a list of 640 highly qualified engineers and architects that disagree.

Out of the hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of architects and engineers on the planet, 640 statistically easily falls into the percentage of the general population with mental illness by a couple of orders of magnitude.

Now if you could get affidavits from half of the total number of architects and engineers, you would have some sort of credible evidence

dUmmY--the same could be said for the number of highly qualified engineers for the government conspiracy theory.

The 640 gave their views on the subject in the link. here is an example.

Frank A. DeMartini WTC victim. Architect and WTC Construction Manager, North Tower, 88th floor. Demartini first worked at the World Trade Center when Leslie E. Robertson Associates hired him to assess damage from the terrorist truck bombing in 1993.

* Video interview 1/25/01: "The [Twin Tower] building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. This intense grid and the jet-plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting." http://video.google.com

* Editor's note: The Boeing 767-200s that impacted the Twin Towers on 9/11 were only slightly larger than 707s and DC 8s, the types of jetliners whose impacts the World Trade Center's designers anticipated. The maximum takeoff weight of the 707 is 15% less than the 767.

The 640 gave their views on the subject in the link. here is an example.

Let's be very conservative and say there are 1,000,000 architects and engineers in the world. In fact for easy math, let's say there are even less -- say 640,000.

You cite 640 engineers and architects who agree with your conspiracy. That is one in 1,000, or 1/10 of 1%. Since it is estimated that about 8% of the population is mentally ill, those 640 EASILY fall into that realm.

When you can cite 50% of engineers who disagree instead of 1/10 of 1%, get back with us, OK?

dUmmY

When you have more than 640 on your side--get back with us ok?

Dave the Wave

Here is a link to start your education. Barbara Olson never made that call.

When you have more than 640 on your side--get back with us ok?

I don't need to. You are making the claim. You bear the burden of proof. 1/10 of 1% (a very conservative figure) of architects and engineers is hardly 'proof'

Outside a legal context, "burden of proof" means that someone suggesting a new theory or stating a claim must provide evidence to support it: it is not sufficient to say "you can't disprove this." Specifically, when anyone is making a bold claim, either positive or negative, it is not someone else's responsibility to disprove the claim, but is rather the responsibility of the person who is making the bold claim to prove it. In short, X is not proven simply because "not X" cannot be proven (see negative proof).

All bullshit answers as usual from boOb.

You ran with the thermite rant forever, what's the matter do you forget, or just chose to ignore your BS?

You said planes never hit the towers, are you now recanting that crap?

Employees of the cell phone companies said the calls could have been made. You know better then them?

You won't even address why all the enigneers agreed to what happened..HOW can they be wrong?

You won't answer all my questions because YOU CAN'T. Like the dem's and the news services not atleast playing lip service to jones. Why is that? Your normal bullshit AS USUAL, that's why.

So let's hear it boOb, why haven't the news services bought in???????

Then answer why is this lady suing for lack of notice regarding the risk to the Pentagon. When YOU say it was a missile. A missile sure is a lack of warning heh?

Again, you are a lame excuse for a human being

Has anyone wondered "why" Bob needs to believe this conspiracy theory? What is it in the workings of his mind that compel him to assemble the information, screen it, and accept some of it and reject other interpretations?

Bob, what if this conspiracy theory of yours is the actual reality? Then what? And why?

Do you think reassembling the information distinguishes you as to intelligence, or do you think instead that it subjects you to ridicule, obloquy, and contempt? Do you consider yourself to be a hero for the ages, a man in the vanguard, who is focusing on truths that will be revealed in the future, and that your view will be vindicated? And then the name of Doubting Bob will be entered in the annals of history? What is it, Bob? You seem to deny physical reality and physical processes in advancing your propositions. Well, so be it. It provides continuing amusement, you and others engaged in this "debate."

GW and company sure must run a tight lipped ship there not to have one person's guilty conscious make them spill the beans to the public.

You have proven NOTHING with your answers, and use the same lame approach, partial answers, lack of addressing all questions, and ignorant impossible responses. When proven wrong on anything you just go onto the next irrational POV. drop dead douche bag, you disrespect all the victims of 911, every American

All bullshit answers as usual from boOb.

What is bullshit about 640 architects and engineers doubting the government conspiracy theory?

You ran with the thermite rant forever, what's the matter do you forget, or just chose to ignore your BS?

I have seen nothing to discount the thermate theory. I don't see where I have ever said there wasn't thermate.

You said planes never hit the towers, are you now recanting that crap?

I think you are delusional. I never denied planes hit the towers. I said no plane hit the pentagon.

Employees of the cell phone companies said the calls could have been made. You know better then them?

Link? Try that sometime to back up your BS. I said Barbara Olson never made the call. If you had read the link you could discuss it intelligently, but you have read nothing about 911---ever. You are simply mouthing things you heard on the radio and TV. If Barbara Olson made the call from her cell phone---why is there no record of it?

You won't even address why all the enigneers agreed to what happened..HOW can they be wrong?

Paid? Threatened? Stupid? How can the 640 I referenced be wrong?

You won't answer all my questions because YOU CAN'T. Like the dem's and the news services not atleast playing lip service to jones. Why is that? Your normal bullshit AS USUAL, that's why.

As usual you have it backwards---I have answered all your questions, and you haven't answered my one little question. How did Barbara Olson make that call?

So let's hear it boOb, why haven't the news services bought in???????

The news services are all right wing. Those that might are threatened. If we had a free news service like in the 40's and 50's, we wouldn't have gotten into the Iraq mess---the news hounds would have shouted that there werte no WMDs.

Then answer why is this lady suing for lack of notice regarding the risk to the Pentagon. When YOU say it was a missile. A missile sure is a lack of warning heh?

I say a 757 doesn't fit through a 15 foot hole. Have you read anything? This woman had no warning, but they saw the plane coming in for 15 minutes---there was a countdown. They could have evacuated the building.

Again, you are a lame excuse for a human being

And you know nothing of America. Americans are bound by honor to question their government on every aspect of its behavior. You have no logic for your beliefs of 911, and refuse to read anything that would contradict the government line. You are a sheep--not an American. You have no logic---just venom and personal attacks.

#55 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2008-12-21 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag

Bob, what if this conspiracy theory of yours is the actual reality? Then what? And why?

#56 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-12-21 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

Assume for a second that it was proven true. The question is yours--then what?

Watching Bush in that classroom should have been a dead give away for anyone who knows body language or has any kind of hint as to normal human reactions.

When Andrew Card came in to tell the President that the second plane had hit the White House and America was under attack---he didn't wait even a fraction of a second for a response--look how fast he backs off. Not even a blink. Think about that---you tell the President of the United States that the Unites States is under attack---and you don't think he is going to have anything to say about it? In fact you KNOW he has nothing to say. Card wasn't telling Bush something new---he was giving him an updated report.

Now from Bush's perspective---has he ever seen to be the calm cool James Bond type to just sit there and cooly think what his best options would be---or has he usually been known as a cowboy type with a shoot first ask questions later type of attitude? Do you think if a private went into a generals office and reported the base was under attack the the private would wait for orders? Do you think the general would just sit there? Any general? Any private? Any person of responsibility? Any underling reporting? No--if you are sitting in your house and your kid comes in and says someone is stealing things out of your garage--you won't sit there for seven minutes to figure out what to do--and you kid will wait to see what you want him to do--call the cops--call 911---hide--get the gun--get the baseball bat--run next door--SOMETHING.

Now let's see things from the Secret Service perspective. Planes are hijacked--people are dying--America is under attack, and the Presidents whereabouts are well known--a Presidential attack could be very likely---do they move the President? Any activity at all? No. No one involved in the school that day reacted like normal people. I've heard the--they didn't want to frighten the kids--BS. If you can't smoothly excuse yourself from a bush of first graders you shouldn't be President, and their delicate psyches would have rebounded better than the people who lost their lives by his inaction.

Bush sat there because he was told to sit there. Card was making an updated report, and the Secret Service wasn't worried because they knew the President was under no threat.

Again no answer about the news services, all the dems, tight lipped insider....

Another laugher is your claim "Paid? Threatened? Stupid?" You are completely out in left field....

Just bullshit boOb

I gave an answer--you just didn't like it. Where is your answer---how did she make the call? You know nothing. Will never know nothing. You are an embarrassment as an American and human being.

GW and company sure must run a tight lipped ship there not to have one person's guilty conscious make them spill the beans to the public

Dave the Brave

Well, it seems that they tend to get Wellstoned if they do...

Man who set up alternate email for White House dies in plane crash the othe day

Bani

You should start threads instead of burying things like this on an old almost dead thread.