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Tuesday, December 16, 2008

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday granted an appeal by four former Guantanamo prisoners and ordered further review of their lawsuit against top Pentagon officials for torture and religious abuse.

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Let's quit fighting the tape here.

Let the libs have their way, let these folks go with money and first class plane tickets in their pockets for their horrible pain and suffering so they can get their asses back in order to blow-up some more Americans. The odds of killing only the families of democrats / and the media is so high in places like DC, NY, and elsewhere, I say, "YAY"- have at it.

Obama is going to have to deal with this inevitably anyway and to the delight of everyone sensible, LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED !!!

wow you're a douchebag

"Let's get this party started..."

I think you just called for the deaths of your fellow Americans.

Leave this idiot's post up. I know he's beyond embarrassment personally but the rest of us can always use a reminder of what the last eight years have been like and why people like him needed to lose.

Terrorists may not stop hating America, but they sure got their as..s kicked by Bush. Thanks Bush for doing all you can to keep America safe --- all these talks of international image is a hogwash, liberal hogwash. I prefer safety to appeasement.

Is the Iraqi shoe tosser a liberal? Ungrateful.

"religious abuse"? Was the toilet facing the wrong direction?

"Is the Iraqi shoe tosser a liberal? Ungrateful."

Un-fucking-believable.

Would someone please buy that poster a clue?

No Zed i think its been you and the liberals calling for american deaths. Lets see shut down gitmo and bring them here. That has been the lib mantra, not the center to right. They dont desereve our courts any more than any other soldiers from any of other wars. Fuck them, kill them before they kill more americans.

Let's get this party started..."

I think you just called for the deaths of your fellow Americans.

Leave this idiot's post up. I know he's beyond embarrassment personally but the rest of us can always use a reminder of what the last eight years have been like and why people like him needed to lose.

Unlike the calls for deaths here for the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rice, Limbaugh, Hannity, Maulkin, Ingram, religion, the easter bunny, santa clause....

Lets send them to your home so you can keep an eye on them Zed. They wont go back to their countries as they will be killed for not dying for the cause. You can train them to be good can't you?

Were those people OC who have been killing Americans, dont think so. YOu evidently do not read accounts from the soldiers, only the liberal press and TV.

Fuck them, kill them before they kill more americans.

Posted by JMFJ at 2008-12-16 09:31 AM

In fact, fuck them and kill them whether they killed any Americans or not. Fuck them and kill them whether they've been proven guilty of a single thing. You know, just in case they might have, fuck them and kill them all!

And torture is not loud music or waterboarding, its getting your nails pulled out, Your penis cut off while you are alive, or your head whacked off. Torture-bullshit,

Were those people OC who have been killing Americans, dont think so. YOu evidently do not read accounts from the soldiers, only the liberal press and TV.

Can you break this down for me? If that is a reply to my post. Not sure what your point was.

Isn't it funny when they let someone out that back they came. I know you will say that its becacause they were held, but thats not true. Richard pearle is a perfect example of what they would do to you if they got a hold of you-or do you think you could talk your way out of it San?

Read The Lone Survivor OC.

Okay, torture I can understand, if there were beatings or things of that nature they should be looked at. But what the hell is "religious abuse" and since when is it a crime?

This was in Afghanistan, the war you all support.

Read The Lone Survivor OC.

#15 | Posted by JMFJ at 2008-12-16 09:46 AM

Marcus Luttrell? Decortated and honored Navy Officer. A true american hero. OK? What was your point about only listening to liberal media? Maybe when they start recognizing the thousand of others deserving their story be heard, I will listen. I won't hold my breath.

"Let's shut down Gitmo and bring them here has been the mantra...."

You do realize this lawsuit is brought by persons already released and not living here?

Your post hammers home how little you've paid attention. The "mantra" has been deal with these people in some conclusive and hopefully fair sort of way. Not just leave them in legal limbo for years and pretend you've solved something.

I don't want to rehash this sorry mess once again. "Stupid and mean" protects no one. ""Stupid and mean" appears to comfort the stupid and mean, however.

While I'm on this theme let me continue----George W. Bush is stupid and mean. You've seen the sort of leadership stupid and mean gets you.

That's always been his appeal. While Bush was being most stupid and mean, the stupid and mean among him liked him best. Why? I don't know. Perhaps they longed to be as unfettered in their stupidity and meaness as he is.

Listening to right-wing commentators discuss their recent election loss, do you know what many of them say? We would have won had we been more stupid and mean.

It's no more complicated than that. A bunch of obnoxious kids tearing wings off flies and saying it's "foreign policy" or "national defense".

ZED what about the 250 when gitmo is shut down, are you taking those. shows how much you are paying attention because they are trying to figure out where to keep them here and how to run them thru our court system. Guess you being stupid too comforts you as well.

You do realize this lawsuit is brought by persons already released and not living here?

Then you must also realize these same people were asked to be litigants by liberal lawyers in the US right Zed? Unless you think these same laitigants were familiar with the US Constitution, the Geneva Convention,US Religious Laws... Get my drift? Take a gander at the grievences and named defendants.

Anybody detained has been so maligned, all the americans killed deserved it, in a liberal nutshell.

Why is that other countries wont take them Zed, is it because they are angels and won't help the cause?

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday granted an appeal by four former Guantanamo prisoners and ordered further review of their lawsuit against top Pentagon officials for torture and religious abuse.

It would seem someone must have been water boarded or had a picture taken with underwear on their head, big fucking deal. What a joke compared to having your head sawed off with a butcher knife in just under 30 agonizing seconds or having your testicals cut off and shoved down your throat as you are set on fire to burn to death. Or being boiled in a vat of acid until your flesh falls off only you are still alive, death comes slowly to save you from the agony. Yea I think some underwear on my head and a little water boarding would be a day at the beach compared to the religion of peace and what their followers use for torture.

"all these talks of international image is a hogwash, liberal hogwash. I prefer safety to appeasement."

Said Osama bin Laden

let these folks go with money and first class plane tickets in their pockets for their horrible pain and suffering so they can get their asses back in order to blow-up some more Americans.

"been there, done that. Only I gave them chartered flights home."

GWB

Funny that the righties refuse to accept the reality that Glorious Leader has already released 80+ per cent of the evil doers from gitmo. Could it be that they weren't real evildoers, but clowns sold to the CIA by jealous and greedy neighbors?

Nah....Bush is way too smart to be suckered like that.

"And torture is not loud music or waterboarding"

Waterboarding isn't?!?

It was...when we prosecuted the Japanese for war crimes, specifically including waterboarding.

Tell us: what day, exactly, did it cease to be torture?

never been to a concert?

Dont think waterboarding on our part killed anybody.

Now having your penis cut off and stuffed in your mouth before you die is torture. I dont think we did that.

read the flags of our fathers our media and most authors dont have the guts to report what they do to our brave soldiers.

Is that all they did Danforth?

"Dont think waterboarding on our part killed anybody.

Now having your penis cut off and stuffed in your mouth before you die is torture. I dont think we did that."

JMFJ,

Hey dumbfuck you have never been to univeristy have you?

Guess you wouldn't know then that pyschological torture can have far deeper scarring than physical? You don't think your body having an instinctual reaction (waterboarding) that it's going to die occurring hour after hour for weeks is not going to fuck someone up?

Fear, especially instinctual, is a far more powerful tool than pain is.

You just have very little imagination.

Just another uneducated, right wing, mouth breathing, room temperature IQ, non-branching family tree piece of white trailer trash.

Why have the detainees been in Gitmo for over 6 years and only a couple have stood trial??? What is taking so long to bring up charges???? BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE!!! AND MAY YOU ALL BURN IN HELL FOR SAYING WATERBOARDING IS NOT TOTURE!!! HAVE IT DONE ON YOU...OR ARE YOU NOTHING BUT COCK-SUCKING, BUSHEE PUSSIES?????????????

GWB is the Terrorist. As well as his treasonous father and grandfather. We are being led by the nose to our own demise. These people are Nazis attempting to produce the 1000 year Reich in which Germany will be dominant using fascism as a means to their ends. The Bushes are trying to reclaim that which they felt was taken from their grandfather Prescott Bush the Nazi Financier.

Follow the money.

www.worldreports.org

But what the hell is "religious abuse" and since when is it a crime?

Personally, I've never understood why "religious abuse" is lumped in with physical or psychological torture. Of course, I'm not religious, so maybe I just don't appreciate the psychological harm in being forced to deny one's faith in some way.

On another note, so many folks seem quite unaware of how many prisoners we've actually KILLED during torture.

Former FBI Director Louis Freeh, who was a U.S. Prosecutor and U.S. District Judge, was firmly against the detainment of terrorism suspects without a trial.

BTW, he asked Bill Clinton to propose the Anti Terrorism Act of 1996, which called for funds to hire 800+ new anti terrorism agents. Clinton did, and the GOP Congress gutted it to only fund 7.

No Zed i think its been you and the liberals calling for american deaths. Lets see shut down gitmo and bring them here. That has been the lib mantra, not the center to right. They dont desereve our courts any more than any other soldiers from any of other wars. Fuck them, kill them before they kill more americans.
#7 | Posted by JMFJ at 2008-12-16 09:31 AM |

OK, I'll bite.

You DO realize that the vast majority of Gitmo detainees were released already without any charges or explanation, right? What should we do with these people? In your post, you imply that they're all guilty of SOMETHING or they wouldn't be there. Questions of torture aside, we held hundreds of people for years without any contact to lawyers or their home country. We set a terrible precedent in doing so; now any country (Iraq/Afghanistan included) can now do the same or worse to our armed forces or civilians.

Your total lack of logic and reasoning is remarkable, only to be equaled by your blind hatred.

"Personally, I've never understood why "religious abuse" is lumped in with physical or psychological torture."

Gee Divis Bob maybe if it was the most important and precious thing in the world to you, you would get a bit annoyed having some asshole insulting it to your face and you were powerless to respond.

And by the way religion in general ranks lower than whale shit on my value scale.

I think, Furio, that you can see that I acknowledge the possibility of religion's importance to some people in my post.

And, by the way, I think the damaging form of "religious abuse" is when the prisoner is forced to desecrate/deny his own beliefs. Being powerless to stop others from "insulting" your religion is probably really frustrating, but not on the same level as doing so yourself.

BTW, he asked Bill Clinton to propose the Anti Terrorism Act of 1996, which called for funds to hire 800+ new anti terrorism agents. Clinton did, and the GOP Congress gutted it to only fund 7.

Just curious who signed the Act into law? Let's see here... 1996. Not Bush I. Not Bush II. Oh Yeah CLINTON. How in the wide, wide world of sports can you blame anyone other than Clinton. Then again you called my reasoning skewed because I had the nerve to equally blame all those who voted for the Iraq invasion. Which happened to include democrats.

Do you ever make right turns? Just wondering if your political bias extends to anything left or right.

Oh Yeah CLINTON. How in the wide, wide world of sports can you blame anyone other than Clinton.

#39 | Posted by crispee_oc

So by that logic, if the Bush asked for $10 Billion dollars for the Iraq war, and the Democratic Congress only voted for $5 billion and Bush signed the bill, you would say any resulting consequences were Bush's fault?

I can hear the torture now at Guantanamo, " Oh please cut my dick off, boil me in acid , set me on fire with my balls in my mouth anything but that damn underwear on the head thing.

So by that logic, if the Bush asked for $10 Billion dollars for the Iraq war, and the Democratic Congress only voted for $5 billion and Bush signed the bill, you would say any resulting consequences were Bush's fault?

That's ripe San. You asking me to answer a hypothetical question.

You asking me to answer a hypothetical question.

#42 | Posted by crispee_oc

I'm saying in the example cited Clinton wanted one thing, the Congress gave him something less than that and he decided to take what he could get as being better than nothing.

In your book that makes any results Clinton's fault.

I've given you a similar situation with the parties reversed and asked if your assignment of blame would still be the same.

It is a valid comparison, unless your only purpose was to blame Clinton and excuse the Republican Congress for their actions.

Which is it?

"I can hear the torture now at Guantanamo, " Oh please cut my dick off, boil me in acid , set me on fire with my balls in my mouth anything but that damn underwear on the head thing."

Great, Ataxpayer, is another Opus Dei Catholic who fears he will end up in a Dante's Inferno version of hell if he doesn't stop jerking off with his mother's panties.

San,
Maybe you don't remember the vast questions I asked you about Obama. All of which you deflected or ignored. Also your claim about me blaming Clinton as usual had nothing to do with the post to AU. Your assumptions are wrong and off base. Not ripping on you so don't take it as an insult. I will explain my madness. As usual AU will never fault a democrat when he can blame a republican for the democrats actions. I was reminding him of his obvious bias as well as pointing out how blaming republicans for what the dems do make the dems look worthless and weak.

Crispee,

You are speaking in tongues again. Cut back on the kaolin for a change. Now take a few minutes try to think clearly and write a few intelligent sentences.

I know you can do it!

Crispee,

You are speaking in tongues again. Cut back on the kaolin for a change. Now take a few minutes try to think clearly and write a few intelligent sentences.

I know you can do it!

Stay on one thread while trolling little man. This has nothing to do with you. You have plenty of opportuniites to prove your superior ignorance and stupidity to other posters. I have seen plenty already.

"Stay on one thread while trolling little man. "

Says a troll. Crispee when you stop your "librul" rants you'll have a righteous platform to stand on until then don't cry like such a little bitch.

Says a troll. Crispee when you stop your "librul" rants you'll have a righteous platform to stand on until then don't cry like such a little bitch.

Says the whining bitch upset over my lack of recognizing you or your pathetic posts. I don't care what you ask or think Furio. You are a pathetic little man hell bent on any attention here. If I want to get down to your level and ask you something I will. Until then camp on all the posts you want that don't apply to you. I couldn't care less little man.

"Until then camp on all the posts you want that don't apply to you. I couldn't care less little man."

Crispee you soil your pants again? Libruls just won't run away in fear of your great intellect anymore? Shit, you better go out and buy a bigger gun maybe one of those .50 Desert Eagles and cowboy up to handle some of those pussy liberls. Either that or do a viagra/coke speedball and pray you can can finally get half a chubby and have a fleeting moment of virility. Choose your poison.

Choose your poison.

I will look for a 15 year old so you have a fighting chance. My money is still on the teen though. Seeing as he can probably catch your gutless little ass when you run away.

"Seeing as he can probably catch your gutless little ass when you run away."

Oooh, tough talk, just like Rock Hudson would do. Crispee, do you see yourself as a Rock reincarnation?

Oooh, tough talk, just like Rock Hudson would do. Crispee, do you see yourself as a Rock reincarnation?

Figures Rock Hudson was your choice of people to use. No doubt it is telling. You need to move on Sparky. Again you forget this had nothing to do with you. San or AU don't need a quack like yourself defending them. You got enough attention on this. So take your meds and do what clowns like you do outside of here.

GWB is the Terrorist. As well as his treasonous father and grandfather. We are being led by the nose to our own demise. These people are Nazis attempting to produce the 1000 year Reich in which Germany will be dominant using fascism as a means to their ends. The Bushes are trying to reclaim that which they felt was taken from their grandfather Prescott Bush the Nazi Financier.

Follow the money.

www.worldreports.org

#33 | Posted by Prolix247 FLAG FOR THE MOST RIDICULOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY OF THE DAY.

You have serious issues if you really believe all that.

Reading over what passes as right wing thought on this thread...

I think Zed nailed it with his "stupid and mean" comments.

I see the question as whether the government can be held responsible for it's actions.

They have not denied the accusations, only that the plaintiffs have no standing for the case.

I prefer safety to appeasement.

~Takitez

You are not safer from terrorism today then you were on 9/11.

You are, in fact, much less safe.

America is weaker economically, has less moral standing in the world, enraged it's enemies and has tested the patience of even it's closest allies.

The terrorists like Bin Laden who have long claimed that the US was "The Great Satan" who was poised to invade, plunder and humiliate the Muslim world have been proven correct and have thus gained footholds and established themselves around the globe in plces they never were before. The four million refugees displaced by America's pre-emptive fuckup in Iraq are a breeding ground for recruitment fer AQ and their ilk.

These are seeds that America has sown.

Seeds that y'all will one day reap.

"As ye sow..."

Do yerself a favor and learn some or all of the above information at some point.

More on Topic?

FTA: The Bush administration urged the Supreme Court to reject the appeal on the grounds that the appeals court's decision was correct.

"The court of appeals reasonably concluded that military detainees could not impose personal monetary liability on the nation's military commanders for overseas conditions of confinement during a time of war," Justice Department attorneys said.

The idea that because this mistreatment didn't happen on American soil they don't deserve their day in court is pure stOOpid.

A transparent attempt at subverting justice that a half bright third grader could see through.

Also, Spud has a problem with the admin continually claiming that there is a "war" on.

By Spud's lights "war" is something that requires two sides with some semblance of parity.

The "War in Iraq" is really just a corporately ordained shiat-kicking by a vastly superior force onto one without tanks, planes, depleted uranium munitions or even pover-paid corporate mercenaries.

A force that has no other options but to resort to hit and run guerrilla tactics in order to resist a universally hated invasion/occupation force.

To call that a "war" is like calling Mike Tyson curb stomping a three year old to death a "fair fight".

Hopefully this case will lead to sommat resembling justice but Spud aint gonna hold his breath waiting for that to occur.

America's reputation as a "Nation of Laws" has been much diminished after eight years of Cheney and his pet Chimp in Chief.

Be Well.

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