Pretty rotten thing that happened in Mumbai, huh?

Grand old hotel, in an increasingly progressive and prosperous India: Suddenly, hundreds of innocent, unsuspecting people are hostages, some of them being systematically murdered. Bombs are exploding, people are screaming, military are descending into the chaos, TV crews are coming from everywhere to broadcast the carnage worldwide.

When the dust begins to settle after many horrifying hours, the body count has reached nearly 200, and many more are injured and emotionally scarred for the rest of their lives.
Thank God, it couldn't happen here. Could it?

Look around. Watch your evening news. Read your newspaper.

Are you unaware of the raging demonstrations in our streets, in front of our churches and synagogues, even spilling into these places of worship, and many of these riots turning defamatory and violent? Have you not seen the angry distorted faces of the rioters, seen their derogatory and threatening placards and signs, heard their vows to overturn the democratically expressed views of voters, no matter what it costs, no matter what was expressed at the polls? Twice?

I refer to California's Proposition 8.

~Pat Boone (Metal God)

Can you spot the logical fallacy that Pat is making here?

Pick up yer #2 pencils.

Turn over yer blogpaper ...and begin.

Be Well.

pat is still alive?

pat is still alive?

Yup, well ...except fer his brain, obviously.

Be Well.

pat is still alive?

#2 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe at 2008-12-06 08:20

Don't worry, HillbillyDeluxe, your singing idol is still alive.

I'll even bet you were the first one in line at Wal-Mart the day Pat Boone released his pathetic attempt at doing a heavy metal album -- "In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy"

hahahaha

Pat Boone lives next door to Ozzy Osbourne in Beverly Hills. According to Ozzy, he's the one behind Pat's heavy metal move

Talk about a couple of opposites sharing a fence ...

Metallica versus Pat Boone.

The NY Times carried an ad referring to the concept that mob action should not be able to veto the results of legally constituted elections in a democracy. But there are some people, who are so self-righteous and self-centered that they think they merit special dispensation, and suffering from arrested development, anchored in infantilism,throw tantrums to get their way. The greater the infantile component of people suffering from arrested development, the lower the frustration tolerance.

And to think, so much of this disagreement is concerning the definition of a word, "mate." Homosexuals together can engage in various forms of mutual masturbation. But they cannot mate. There is no end, no conclusion to a homosexual relationship. It cannot be consummated. Two homosexuals cannot mate. Being a "mate" is the nexus of marriage. Homosexuals "partner." Heterosexuals "mate."

The NY Times carried an ad referring to the concept that mob action should not be able to veto the results of legally constituted elections in a democracy.

Uh-huuuuh, Mob action certainly shouldn't be able to effect the results of an election but the sheer unConstitutionality of sed initiative should.

Besides, legitimate protest is the hallmark of a true and functioning democracy. Why do you hate democracy, Tiny J?

But there are some people, who are so self-righteous and self-centered that they think they merit special dispensation, and suffering from arrested development, anchored in infantilism,throw tantrums to get their way.

All the self righteousness on this issue is to be found on the intolerant, immoral, unevolved religious right.

So is most of the infantilism and tantrums.

Special dispensation?

* deep sigh *

Equal rights aren't special right, wingnut.

Do learn this at some point.

Two homosexuals cannot mate. Being a "mate" is the nexus of marriage. Homosexuals "partner." Heterosexuals "mate."

Ergo, by yer ill logic, infertile couples and couples who choose not to procreate can only be considered partners and not mates?

That's gonna come as a shock to a lot of folks.

Also, giving birth is not the only way to have a kid, Tiny J.

Gay couples who marry and adopt a child are as entitled to their equal rights and protections under the law

Gay couples who rear children from a previous traditional marriage are also entitled to thiose rights.

Lesbian couples with their turkey baster kids are also entitled to same.

Childless gay couples just like childless traditional couples are entitled to the same rights as Sarah Palin and her hellspawn brood.

Tiny FAILS.

Thanx fer playing.

Be Well.

/Wot, no more suckas from the religious right wanna try justifying Pat Boone's wingnutty comments here?

//Yer too scared, aintcha?

Equal rights aren't special right, wingnut.

Two homosexuals cannot mate. Being a "mate" is the nexus of marriage. Homosexuals "partner." Heterosexuals "mate."

Ergo, by yer ill logic, infertile couples and couples who choose not to procreate can only be considered partners and not mates?

Also, giving birth is not the only way to have a kid, Tiny J.

Gay couples who marry and adopt a child are as entitled to their equal rights and protections under the law

Gay couples who rear children from a previous traditional marriage are also entitled to thiose rights.

Lesbian couples with their turkey baster kids are also entitled to same.

Childless gay couples just like childless traditional couples are entitled to the same rights as Sarah Palin and her hellspawn brood.

You reside in the Canada, seemingly in isolation from other members of the human species, and may have forgotten certain information concerning anatomy and physiology. But try hard to recollect. Inserting a turkey baster in a vagina is not the equivalent of mating with another human being, a sex act possible only between a male with a female. I don't know what other kinds of devices fascinate you, dildoes, other sex toys, but a woman doesn't mate with a vibrator. Get it? Possibly not.

The parenting material is so unrelated to the subject at hand that its introduction is inane. I was tempted to ignore it. But then deth, your mind works in mysterious ways. You write crytographically and have developed a unique orthography, possibly due to neurological dysfunction, so possibly in the workings of your own mind these matters are related. So deth, I'll make inquiry as to your thinking on the matter in the probably vain hope that even if there is no rational basis for your comparison, you may reveal more of the inner workings of your fascinating mind.

How did allusions to raising children become a demonstration that two same sex people can "mate?" Only in the world of deth, do such matters seem related. But then, for someone who equates turkey baster conception with sexual intercourse, all things are possible. In your mind anyway, deth. It's a "special" world that you inhabit.

deth, in your world there are equal rights for masturbators, which you consider should be equivalent to those of people who mate?

Hey, don't knock masturbation at least it's sex with someone I love"

~Woody Allan.

"Plus you don't hafta dress up for it"

Ask a stOOpid question, Tiny, that's wot you get in response.

Not at all, deth. Heterosexuals are a class that has the apparent capacity to mate. Heterosexuals marrying are treated as members of that class with a legal presumption that they can mate. Either party may challenge the validity of the marriage and seek annulment on the basis of failure to consummate. Homosexuals on the other hand, are not members of a class that can mate since homosexual mating is not a possibility.

Pure sophistry, Tiny, even you must know on some level how disingenuous and intellectually bankrupt yer arguments are.

Marriage is a contract between two people.

Period.

/Consenting adults obviously.

Yer attempts to tie that basic reality into the neccessity of children or at least the potentiality fer kids is absurd.

Yer motivations fer trying such a stunt are as patently obvious as yer racism and elitism.

Marriage does not equal "mating".

Learn that.

Care to try a shot at the real topic at hand?

Is Pat Boone right to try and equate the terrorist slaughterfest in Mumbai with anti-Mormon backlash caused by their interfernce in California's political initiative H8?

G'head. Try and justify the unjustifiable.

You know you want to.

It's kinda "your thing" after all.

Be Well.

And to think, so much of this disagreement is concerning the definition of a word, "mate." Homosexuals together can engage in various forms of mutual masturbation. But they cannot mate. There is no end, no conclusion to a homosexual relationship. It cannot be consummated. Two homosexuals cannot mate. Being a "mate" is the nexus of marriage. Homosexuals "partner." Heterosexuals "mate."

#7 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-12-06 10:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Master's in bullshitology

Master's in bullshitology

And debate!

Tiny Johnson is a Master Debater par excellance.

Here's wot Tiny refuses to wrap his wee head around here.

That the equality of a gay marriage and a traditional marriage is akin to the equality between men and women.

Men and women are not the same in certain specific ways but they both enjoy the exact same rights under law as each other.

Equal but different.

Apparently, a level of nuance that Tiny's mind works furiously to avoid.

It's not that he's not capable of seeing this truth.

It's just that he won't.

His ignorance is willfull.

Sad is that.

S'rsly? No other RT's have showed up on the Spudthread yet to try and condone Pat Boone's back-assward epiphany here?

Guess that must mean they all universally loathe and disavow his madness but are too shy to come on the thread and say so.

Yeah, that must be it.

Oh well.

Tommorow is another day.

Be Well.

/Yes, really gone now.

Tiny Johnson is a Master Debater par excellance.

#12 | Posted by dethspud at 2008-12-07 04:08 AM | Reply | Flag: That's one damned painful pun ya got there, suh!

Pat Boone the hater--dresses his hate in Christian "love" as usual. His kind attacks the rights of others, then bleats about his right to hate being attacked. Typical Christian hypocrite.

Throwing out the mob rule of the majority for over two centuries is that band of terrorists the Supreme Court and their nasty little manifesto the Constution.

Pat Boone's version of Long Tall Sally is played at most gay weddings.

"Christians" along the likes of Pat Boone are the real terrorists.

Pat is a latent Tootie Frootie.

Johnson

You simply make your own definition of the word "mate".

It doesn't fit the definition the rest of the planet uses.

"Lesbian couples with their turkey baster kids are also entitled to same (rights)."

What's hilarious and sad is that you and yours can't see why 30 some states don't vote for this.
Maybe it's just your rhetoric...
It doesn't sound quite compelling enough when you phrase it like that...

Kirk

Why not explain the logic of those thirty states for those of us who think it is due to religious intolerance or bigoted homophobes.

Johnson that is one of the dumbest argument I've heard yet about gay marriage.

If the production of a child is so key to marriage as you claim then how would you feel about requiring fertility tests before granting a marriage license? Perhaps we should place some time requirement on the couple, if they do not conceive within X months then the marriage automatically nullified.

Since you feel that breeding is so key to marriage I'm sure you would agree that a heterosexual couple that are not able or not willing to bear a child should not be eligible for marriage.

pat is still alive?

#2 | Posted by hillbillydeluxe at 2008-12-06 08:20

Don't worry, HillbillyDeluxe, your singing idol is still alive.

I'll even bet you were the first one in line at Wal-Mart the day Pat Boone released his pathetic attempt at doing a heavy metal album -- "In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy"

glad to see you'll be able to take when you get piled on again, Drama!

hahahaha

#4 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-12-06 08:42 PM | R

Finally a sane article on Prop 8...Thank you Pat Boone and thank you logic!

Pat Boone is just "milking" the situation for attention.

Pat Boone is a fucking idiot, he ought to take his cheap hairpiece an get the fuck out of dodge...Fucking Right Wing Hack!!!!!!! Thank God I am a Liberal, to think that I could think like this Idiot, I may as well just shoot myself.......

What's hilarious and sad is that you and yours can't see why 30 some states don't vote for this.

Actually wot's hilarious is the fact that if you study the numbers in all these 30-0 losses fer equal rights fer gays initiatives you detect a noticeable trend.

That trend is that gay rights are inevitable.

As the older, less tolerant, more close minded generation dies off the younger more morally evolved generation takes their place and gay rights become accepted as a matter of course.

Yer on the wrong side, Kirk.

The wrong side of history, morality and luff.

Learn that.

Also...

Pat Boone's version of Long Tall Sally is played at most gay weddings.

#16 | Posted by like

Now THAT is super hilarious!

Spud is LOL!

Be Well.

/Ta to the Jolly-rogering blog-god fer the greenlight.

The under 18 crowd is much more tolerant. Gay issues have only begun to gain traction. Homophobia will wither and die.

There is no end, no conclusion to a homosexual relationship. It cannot be consummated. Two homosexuals cannot mate. Being a "mate" is the nexus of marriage. Homosexuals "partner." Heterosexuals "mate."

#7 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-12-06 10:56 PM

So aptly named Johnson, is my marriage of 20 yrs invalid in your opinion because my wife and I chose not to have children? In other words we don't "mate."

C'Mon Johnson, tell me.

And why we're at it, when are you going to defend this statement of yours:

Doesn't your camp claim all of the "Queens?"

#69 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-11-22 02:03 PM

Doesn't your camp claim all of the "Queens?"

#69 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-11-22 02:03 PM

Apparently you haven't been watching the news the last 8 years. Your camp seems to have cornered the market on Queens, Pedophiles, and sexual deviance.

#72 | Posted by briwo at 2008-11-22 02:06 PM
#85 | POSTED BY BRIWO AT 2008-11-22 02:33 PM

AND, how many other so called defenders of "traditional marriage" can claim to have been married only once, and for 20 yrs and counting?

Johnson, you are one stupid motherfucker. Please don't breed, we need to strengthen our gene pool, not weaken it.

Thank God I am a Liberal, to think that I could think like this Idiot, I may as well just shoot myself.......

#26 | Posted by celisary
* * * *

Please, don't let that stop you.

I'll even bet you were the first one in line at Wal-Mart the day Pat Boone released his pathetic attempt at doing a heavy metal album -- "In a Metal Mood: No More Mr. Nice Guy"

hahahaha

#4 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-12-06 08:42 PM

sorry pudge, wasn't me. but at least you knew the nmae.

go find a man, hon.

there a lot of guys out there that like "big" women.

go find yourself one, hon.

Have to agree with you Pat. Prop 8 supporters should not have to fear a bunch of extremists trying to shove their "it's my way or no way" agenda. That's what Islamo-Fascists do. If the anti-Prop 8 people want to try again then do it by peaceful means. Afterall, isn't it liberals who are supposed to be peaceful? Only if it fits your agenda. I feel sorry for the voters that were exercising their INDIVIDUAL rights by donating to a cause important to them. Your side will continue to lose because Americans still have the FREEDOM to vote how they want, not how a bunch of extremists want them to vote.

Johnson!! Are you going to man up and answer or are you going to continue run and hide like the little girl you are?

"...Americans still have the FREEDOM to vote how they want, not how a bunch of extremists want them to vote."

You mean like the Pope, Catholic Bishops, and the President and Quorum of the 12 Apostles of the LDS Church?

Have to agree with you Pat. Prop 8 supporters should not have to fear a bunch of extremists trying to shove their "it's my way or no way" agenda. That's what Islamo-Fascists do. If the anti-Prop 8 people want to try again then do it by peaceful means. Afterall, isn't it liberals who are supposed to be peaceful? Only if it fits your agenda. I feel sorry for the voters that were exercising their INDIVIDUAL rights by donating to a cause important to them. Your side will continue to lose because Americans still have the FREEDOM to vote how they want, not how a bunch of extremists want them to vote.

#34 | Posted by Freedom1st at 2008-12-07 01:57 PM |

"100 percent american"! too funny, goober.

Prop 8 supporters should not have to fear a bunch of extremists trying to shove their "it's my way or no way" agenda.

Supporters of equal rights are extremists?

Tiny Johnson is a Master Debater par excellance.

~Spud

That's one damned painful pun ya got there, suh!

~Numba Six

Meh, in Spud's defense it were after one o'clock on the West Coast and Spud was sleepy and half cut.

Not a justification by any means Spud is merely plead extenuating circumstances!

/Interesting side note: Tiny Johnson masturbates with a pair of felt lined tweezers and a magnifying glass.

^_^

Finally a sane article on Prop 8...Thank you Pat Boone and thank you logic!

#24 | Posted by babysheepndels

Cos equating religious extremists murderers in India to people fighting religious extremism in America is somehow "logic" in yer book?

About that book?

Does it pop up?

Were you able to color within the lines without assistance from yer mommy?

Spud is deeply curious now.

Be Well.

Boone says,"it is a time honored and biblically ordained institution that is subject not to the government but to the will of the people. And the people, down through the centuries, have spoken. Not just the Bible, but Webster's Dictionary, defines this covenantal relationship called "marriage" as a commitment between one man and one woman."

Well we know that the bible if full of people with MORE THAN ONE WIFE. And we know that polygamy seems to be no problem for the god of the bible, Yehwah. That fact is why the Later Day Saints originally had no problem with this aspect of marriage as NOT being between one man and one woman but a man who could have MORE THAN ONE WIFE. To site something like the bible is to site something as speculative as any fairy tale. Then bring in the concept of DIVORCE which is in fact at least A LEGALIZED SCAMMERS FORM OF POLYGAMY!

Boones whole argument is absurd and is typical of a person steeped in a concept of normalcy where anything else causes him a emotional and psychological reaction that he likely little understands! If any thing it is typical of a religionist mind set that has terrorized people for centuries. It's totally empowered priest, bishops, imams, popes, pastors, preacher, who have never been elected by a populace generally over everyone else.

And then you get into what this actually says about females! Increadable. Males by this line of resoning are the main powers in culture! Women are nothing. Did you knwo that there are NO, NADA, ZIP, female angels in the bible! There is reference in a verse to what appears to be 2 female forms floating in the sky but any angel references are all male. Heck! the god is male. A man can have more tha one female! Females are like owned!

This whole line of reasoning by Boone is typical of a person steeped in a concept of normalcy where anything else causes him an emotional and psychological reaction that he likely little understands!

One of the main reasons why same-sex intercourse was and should be rejected as contrary to nature has to do with the incapability of the male-male or female-female to produce offspring. This should not be dismissed with the infantile reply, "Well, there are heterosexual couples who can't have offspring. I guess their relationship isn't valid then?" Clearly this misses the point, and purposefully so, as homosexual activists are so want to do.

Since the obvious receptacle given by nature for the male penis was the female vagina, penetration of a mlae amounted to treating the male as if he were a female and thereby "emasculating" him - a blatant case of anatomical gender transgression.

In effect, the willingly penetrated male takes up a complaint with nature for failing to supply him with a vagina, and vice versa for a woman. In Hellenistic and Roman Imperial culture, "the passive partner" in a homoerotic relationship, either on his own initiative or by way of encouragement or coercion from the "active partner" took the process of feminization a step further by braiding and adoring his hair or growing it long, putting on makeup and perfume, adopting feminine mannerisms, wearing women's clothing, plucking facial and body hair, or in extreme cases undergoing castration.

Clearly this is plain to see today with all the dysfunction displays that are now blessed as good and wholesome. Transgenderism, effete males, butch dykes, cross dressing, and the like, are all symptoms of the rebellion against nature, and nature's God.

It's even now come to coercion on the grand scale, where homo-eroticism now is a movement seeking validation by bullying the public, bullying churches or disrupting civic events with marti gras type displays intended to shock and force their abomination on all. In the words of Genesis, "Bring out your men that we might know them!" has now become a mass movement by dispicable subhumans pretending to be human, seeking sanction through vile displays and terrorist type tactics.

Their end will come. Though they interrupt church services, or burn down churches, they are receiving punishment in their own person. And when their end comes, we shall lift praise, as when the Hebrews celebrated when pharaoh's armies drowned in the sea.

Away with these sub-human animals. The Lord's curse be upon them!

I have zero problem with homosexual couples having the same tax benefits and penalties that heterosexual couples do. What i do have a problem with is trying to force a church(of any kind) to preform a ceremony that goes against its moral philosophy and/or teachings. People can have a marriage in a courtroom and let it be legal without undermining the religious community. And for the people who say we shouldn't even allow civic court room marriages for gays/homosexuals; Its 2008 come out of your Dark Age.

I thought Pat Boone had choked on a chocolate Jesus and gone on to croon with the invisible boogeyman in the clouds, years ago; but he's still here preying upon us with his ignorance, superstition, delusions,and hate?

Coupla things here.

First, GodAlmighty ROOLZ!

Sweet postage, Dude!

Second, Theo Nebs DROOLZ!

Seriously, cut and pasting a religous argument against gay marriage that includes the line "Away with these sub-human animals"?

WTF?

Pat Boone is a fat old shithead that I'd love to see sacrificed to his "God".

Spud thinks he's mr. integrity? Spud shouldn't speak in the third person then. It's kinda like the Michael Jackson glove thingy, hiding behind some warped and insecure sense of self.

Be well...go see a psychiatrist!

Unlike Debbie Gibson's eventual nudes in Playboy ~ Boone has always had his foot in his foot when sprouting bible righteousness...

Glad to see he's still in form:>)

What i do have a problem with is trying to force a church(of any kind) to perform a ceremony that goes against its moral philosophy and/or teachings

~GotTruth

Nobody is trying to "force" religious institutions to go against their own teachings and conduct marriage ceremonies for gays.

That is a red herring frequently put out from the right in this divisive national debate.

Actually, as Spud sees it, that's part of the beauty here. Once Gay Marriage is an accepted everyday part of life in North America then the pressure is on the churches (with their already falling attendance) to either evolve or be superceded by more progressive and moral institutions.

Don't wanna have gay marriage ceremonies? Fine, Gays will just hafta go shopping fer more moral and progressive places of worship. Other hetero religious families might well follow suit for moral reasons as well thus eaving the older, more hidebound institutions wondering why their sermons are being preached to less and less people and why their echoes just get louder and louder from year to year.

Evolution, babies.

Is a beautiful thing.

Be Well.

foot in "His" foot?

"His" = Devil?

I see the aptly named Johnson has an intellectual twin in THEONEBS.

foot in "His" foot?

Bullshit#1 would have to masturbate with a thesaurus hourly for the next 5 years to be the obtuse pseudo-intellectual (in his own mind)waste of bandwidth that Schlong-boy is. Some people still actually read a few posts from Bullshit boy whereas the only reader Skinhead Johnson has is Murphy.

Debating "scripture" with the unfortunates who earnestly believe in that nonsense is a futile waste of time. "Scripture" can be quoted to support anything from slavery, to stoning people to death for eating shell fish, to talking snakes, and an ark full of dinosaurs bobbing in the Red Sea for 40 days. Absolute drivel.

To believe any of the nonsense in that foolish book, one must have "faith". In order to have "faith", one must perform a do-it-yourself
frontal lobotomy in order to cancel all rational thought.

The fact that so many people in the world blindly cling to all the rubbish that religions peddle, does not bode well for the future of our species.

Spud i think you miss understand me a little. I am in favor of Gay Marriages. I dont even go to church, hell dont crawl from bed till the crack of noon on sunday. But I'm not in favor of a Church( of any fait or denomination ) being told what it must do. Thats all. But on a deeper not I think we should get rid of joint file tax forms for married people. Every citizen should file a Individual Tax form. but that is a topic for another day.

Bullshit#1 would have to masturbate with a thesaurus hourly for the next 5 years to be the obtuse pseudo-intellectual (in his own mind)waste of bandwidth that Schlong-boy is. Some people still actually read a few posts from Bullshit boy

Who the fuck are you talking about?

I have zero problem with homosexual couples having the same tax benefits and penalties that heterosexual couples do. What i do have a problem with is trying to force a church(of any kind) to preform a ceremony that goes against its moral philosophy and/or teachings. People can have a marriage in a courtroom and let it be legal without undermining the religious community. And for the people who say we shouldn't even allow civic court room marriages for gays/homosexuals; Its 2008 come out of your Dark Age.

#42 | Posted by GotTruth

Nobody is advocating churches to be forced do anything of the sort. It is about civil and legal rights. Religious entities should always be free to choose to perform ceremonies, or not.

I see the aptly named Johnson has an intellectual twin in THEONEBS.

#51 | Posted by briwo

Looks like either (a) Theo lifted directly from Tiny Johnson's horrendously redundant posts, or (b) they are both cutting and pasting from the same source.

Spud i think you miss understand me a little. I am in favor of Gay Marriages

~GT

Spud gets that, Got.

But the closest thing to an example of a church being forced to do sommat outside of their doctrine that Spud can think of is when a gay couple rented a reception area owned by a church who later reneged after finding out it was a gay wedding the reception was for.

Nothing to do with anything going on inside the House of Worship itself just in a building owned by the church that was a rental space.

Gay couple sued as Spud remembers.

Spud is still conflicted on that one.

There are indeed extremists on both sides of any argument as a rule but in the main on this particular issue Spud finds them to be vastly on the side of the religious right.

In truth the "Gays wanna force religions to marry them" argument is a canard and people need to see this.

Nobody is advocating churches to be forced do anything of the sort. It is about civil and legal rights. Religious entities should always be free to choose to perform ceremonies, or not.

~SAR

See? SanAn totally gets it.

As to the "all income taxes should be individual" argument well that's a whole other thread in itself, aint it?

Be Well.

The fact that so many people in the world blindly cling to all the rubbish that religions peddle, does not bode well for the future of our species.

~Art Carroll

Spud don't know Art but Spud knows wot he likes and Spud is like that post.

Spud biggest problem with the religious mindset (beyond preaching immorality as morality) is the "God has a plan" thing.

This whole "God has a plan and everything happens fer a purpose" thinking is very dangerous in that it prevents people from taking talk about enviromental sustainability, curbing population growth, decreasing levels of industrial pollution or even looking for a level of justice in this lifetime as seriously as they should be looked at.

We are either a sentient species or we are bipedal Cancer.

Spud opts fer the former interpretation.

Be Well.

How about we take away the right to carry arms? Let's see how violent and pissy people get in the streets. What the fuck do you expect when you take away people's rights? A fucking drum circle? Kumbaya? He's just lucky that homosexuals are generally pretty peaceful in their demonstrations... It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they started getting violent at this point. Enough is enough.

BTW, Spud, I'd go with the "bipedal cancer" interpretation any day of the week (mostly because I get a good chuckle out of that analogy).

Pat Boone the hater--dresses his hate in Christian "love" as usual. His kind attacks the rights of others, then bleats about his right to hate being attacked. Typical Christian hypocrite

~BBob.

Adultery isn't a family value either, it divides them for good. Hating wrong isn't hate.

"Hating wrong isn't hate."

if one gets ulcers from hating then what use is it to anyone ~ except a self righteous indulgence?

Gays can marry people of the opposite sex like normal folks so their civil rights are not being violated. They just can't marry someone of the same sex because it's against the law and really weird anyway.

Pat Boone believes in Vampires, he once aided in stabbing a stake in a Vampires heart. They ask Pat "what if he wasn't a Vampire", Pat answered "well he said he wasn't, but you know how those Vampires lie" then he said a prayer to Chuck Norris just before he sucked him off! Chuck shouted "good head job" in glee.

It always seemed to me that Pat was the type that has lots of evil urges.

The reek of desperation is in the air; American conservatives desperately trying to distance themselves from their nutjob islamic conservative brethren.
You're all peas in the same friggin' pod. Your tiny intellects force you to accept fairy tales as reality and to lash out violently at anyone who pokes at your pathetic house of cards.

I thought this piece of garbage died a long time ago.

Ah well-I guess even the devil doesn't like his music....

Adultery isn't a family value either, it divides them for good. Hating wrong isn't hate.

#63 | Posted by rick1234567890

Apparently for you guys-ignorance IS a "Family Value"..
Putz.

"You're all peas in the same friggin' pod. Your tiny intellects force you to accept fairy tales as reality and to lash out violently at anyone who pokes at your pathetic house of cards."

This country was founded by people who believed in those fairy tales

The reek of desperation is in the air

Put your damn panties back on then!!!

Such irony, but there is a tiny kernel of truth in this mountain of crap.
There is a tiny, tiny seed of hate in the hearts of some of these protesters. But the quesiton is, will it grow? In the current climate, it will. It will grow into a mighty weed, which will choke our nation, just as the race issue did for years.
But where does this seed come from?
It is a reflection of the hate that we see in the pro prop-8 ers, and the anti-gay community. Hate begets hate, and Pat Boone, on some primal level, seems to understand that by hating someone unconditionally, will eventually cause them to hate you back. Is it as extreme as he says it is? Not at all. Is it a possibility if we continue on this road? Yes.
This is going to sound ridiculous, but one of the best examples of this is Star Wars. Look at the descent of Anakin from Jedi to Sith. He starts with anger, an indignation at the Sith for their corruption. But that turns to hate in time, and finally he becomes evil.
I urge both sides to forget the hate. Especially the gay side. No matter what conditions you strive under, never succumb to their level of hate! It will destroy you!

Yes, let's not hate.

I don't hate incest, I just misunderstand those who practice it.

I don't hate beastiality, I just misunderstand those who find a thriling escape in it.

I don't hate pedophilia, I just misunderstand those who choose this lifestyle.

I don't hate homosexuality; I just don't understand the joys of ham-slamming!

Can't we all just get along?

THEONEBS yes THE ONE BS, namesake tradition giving us BS, Thanks

well lets see

these people will do literally anything to push thier agenda.
violence is not at all something they dont consider or advocate

and even in hollywood.....they are using this for purposes of BLACKLISTING people...is that pretty ironic or what????

so maybe he has a point at least as to the antagonitic part of thier issue with prop 8

in other words, they have no problem at ALL with keeping people from working or using their freedom IF they dont agree with it.

This country was founded by people who believed in those fairy tales

#71 | Posted by timbci

This country was founded by people who owned other people; does that make slavery OK?

And the founding fathers who were deists rejected the fairy tale.

Hey BLT,
Let's play a game. I'll start listing conservatives who brutalize other people to push their agenda and you can start listing liberals who do it.
OK?

we could with start with the FACT that if someone is shouted down or has something thrown at them or shit like that....that the speaker in question is from the right and the ASSHOLES who disturb the peace or who try and inhibit someones elses right to speak is from THE LEFT

thats a good place to start

and DONT EVEN start with anything CHURCH RELATED..........the inquisition was a LONG time ago.

AND REMEMBER>.........NO ONE EXPECTED THE INQUISITION...hee hee

"AND REMEMBER>.........NO ONE EXPECTED THE INQUISITION..."

Theonubs:

In Hellenistic and Roman Imperial culture, "the passive partner" in a homoerotic relationship, either on his own initiative or by way of encouragement or coercion from the "active partner" took the process of feminization a step further by braiding and adoring his hair or growing it long, putting on makeup and perfume, adopting feminine mannerisms, wearing women's clothing, plucking facial and body hair, or in extreme cases undergoing castration.

Now, that's just unadulterated BS. Spartan warriors on the battlefield in drag? As my people say, puh-leaze.

In my experience, very, very few men who are interested in sex with other men want a man who's dressed as a woman. Visit your local CraigsList and check out the ads for that. Almost all are married men with issues.

Oh, and if looking at the other ads causes any unwelcome effect, just try thinking of dead puppies and it'll go away.

Away with these sub-human animals. The Lord's curse be upon them!

#41 | Posted by TheOneBS

Theodore Nebs, you are like Lil' Johnson, seriously on the wrong side of history. When the earth is either smashed by an asteroid or consumed by an expanding sun in a few billion years, you will not be around to appreciate how how stupidly you wasted your allotted life. You could have been happy and made others happy. Instead you chose to worship ignorance and fear. Too bad. It is your loss, not mine.

Why am I not surprised that he can't even get something as simple as "Nobody expects the spanish inquisition" right.

Hans

#80 | Posted by Hans at

NO but even a dimwitted, numbnutted poster like you got the reference, didnt you>?>????

I said "Boone" is an idiot
he said "Prove i"
I bought up 4 of Boone's articles on WMD
he said "wow, case closed"

I love it when people say "marriage is for having kids" because they completely forget about all the heterosexual couples who aren't out there firing up the babymakers.
Honestly? What's the point of keeping the def of marriage?
Here's the way I look at it:
1) A group of people are asking for a right (it's not even that big, they just want to say that they're married).

2) The only condition on which we should deny someone a right is if that right infringes on the rights of others.

3) Allowing gays to say "we're married" doesn't seem to infringe on anyone's rights.

So why not redefine again? Because they're all pedophiles? Yeah, and so are all catholic priests. Don't condemn a group on the actions of a few.
How about "it's a war on family values". That's a load of crap. Anyone who's actually read up on the subject knows that children coming from gay parents are no better or worse off than other kids. In fact, if you break it down by percent, they're actually more normal than kids coming from straight parents.

So, wait, what was your point again?

Normally Pat Boone, Johns and Theo scream out for rebuttal. But what the hell. You cannot really refute hate; sheer infantile stupidity usually does not bend to facts. But from another:

"I do have a problem with trying to force a church (of any kind) to preform a ceremony that goes against its moral philosophy and/or teachings. People can have a marriage in a courtroom and let it be legal without undermining the religious community. "

The very notion that a Mormon stake center or a Catholic basilica could be "forced" to perform any ritual it doesn't want is as idiotic as the notion that a loss for Proposition Hate would have forced schools to teach how to have sex with one of your own gender. herm

this shit is a stupid as Smoking Bans in Bars. Why a comprimise of "No Smoking in a Buisness that makes more tha 50% of it revenue in Food sales." Is so crazy, I will never know. But I digress...

IF folks wanna get married, Just let them. Why can't we just let people get a judge to marry them if a church wont.
I worked my why through school(SIUC)Driving a Delivery van for 2 gay men who owned a Flower Shop. Good people. Its a fucking shame that this couple, who have been together a longer than alot of straight married people I know, cant enjoy the same tax/medical perks and policies that straight folks can. Why cant people just exercise A LITTLE COMMON SENSE.

Also a funny side bar to my old College Job( I still make time to help them out ever Valentines Day). "J" was pretty much a Conservitive, while "N" was a Lib always trading dirty jokes with me. I always had the worst jokes though ^_^.

I have zero problem with homosexual couples having the same tax benefits and penalties that heterosexual couples do. What i do have a problem with is trying to force a church(of any kind) to preform a ceremony that goes against its moral philosophy and/or teachings. People can have a marriage in a courtroom and let it be legal without undermining the religious community. And for the people who say we shouldn't even allow civic court room marriages for gays/homosexuals; Its 2008 come out of your Dark Age.

#42 | Posted by GotTruth at 2008-12-07 02:49 PM

Where, in any of the "gay marriage" bills, has there been any provision that "forces" any religious institution to perform a ceremony they have a problem with? This is just another BS, fear-mongering talking point/fund raiser from the orthodox religious zealots. You cannot, without some serious string pulling or major funding(if at all), get married in a cathedral if you're Jewish, get hitched in synagogue as a Baptist or anywhere but a graveyard in the dead of night as a Satanist. The churches just won't do it and this reasonable tradition would continue.
Hell, why would the couple want to screw with their "special day" by having it somewhere they weren't welcome?

Gays can marry people of the opposite sex like normal folks so their civil rights are not being violated. They just can't marry someone of the same sex because it's against the law and really weird anyway.

#65 | Posted by fwthom at 2008-12-07 08:25 PM | Reply |

I love this - this is what gay people used to do - "get married like normal folks" and then live "really weird" lives.

Now they want to live less "really weird" lives by being able to marry the person they want to marry.

You might get it one day, FWTHOM. You are not half as "really weird" as Johnson.

these people will do literally anything to push thier agenda.

~BLT

Agreed. These Mormon jerks is crazy!

See also: Pat Boone.

violence is not at all something they dont consider or advocate.

Well, when they wear those magical underpants it gives 'em special powers and makes them invinicible doncha know, so wot do they really have to fear from starting a fight with anyone?

Be Well.

/Sorry? Wot's that?

You were talking about the anti H8 crowd?

Teh Gheys and their supporters?

They're the violent ones in yer considered opinion?

Cos presumably there's been a rash of Christian bashings where gangs of armed thugs beat the living crap out of some Xian out walking by themselves.

No wait, hold on, that's mostly gay folks that that happens to.

Maybe yer referring to the first openly Christian politician who was shot down fer daring to hold political power.

No wait, that was Harvey Milk that Spud was thinking of.

Guess Spud doesn't really know wot yer talking about.

Do you?

My neighbor is gay and he alway walks around like he took a really long shit or maybe he got something still lodged up there

I am an atheist, so my opinions on worship probably don't matter much to people who go to church. Having said that, however, ultimately, marriage is a church institution. If two people want to be married, and their church will not let them, they might consider a different church. One thing churches understand is the collection plate. Take your tithe or whatever, and put it in another collection plate! There are many churches which not only accept, but actually welcome gays. The United Church of Christ is an example. I cannot understand the attraction of worshiping in communion with people who don't like you.

In the meanwhile, gays should go the marriage-at-the-courthouse route. It is more important to get personal affairs in order, create wills, create death instructions, etc., than it is to appease a church which doesn't like them anyway!

I thought Pat Boone was gay...I mean, look at the hair, those shoes...come on. Seriously thought these are pretty heavy thoughts for a crooner - especially one pushing 300 years old. And what on Earth rhymes with "sexual jihadists"

"Your eyes are blue and shine like new
My heart beats fast for you *ss
Don't me modest...you sexual jihadist
If I can't have you, we'll get blew up too..."

...he must need publicity for a new album coming out for the blue hair set.

Pat Boone lives next door to Ozzy Osbourne in Beverly Hills. He's being slowly Ozzyfied by osmosis.

His wife was pretty hot when she was a tad younger.