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Friday, December 05, 2008

A judge has sentenced O.J. Simpson to at least 15 years in a Nevada state prison for his role in a botched attempt to recover sports mementoes and personal items from two collectibles peddlers at a Las Vegas hotel. Simpson and co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart were convicted Oct. 3 of 12 criminal charges, including kidnapping and armed robbery.

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Belated Justice.

Better late than never. I guess Karma IS a bitch.

Once a thug, always a thug. The sentence ain't long enough. Oh well, goodbye Juice.

How is he supposed to find Nicole's killer if he's locked up? Have we no heart?

#3 | Posted by OohRah

There will now be many a golf fairway that will go unsearched.

Good riddance to a mudering scumbag. I hope he really screws up his parole.

Per Geraldo--they never get parole the first time. So this is looking like --fer sher--over 6 years--likely closer to 8.

Has anyone got Fox on?

They are talking with the Goldmans and there are some serious protesters yelling??

I wonder if the Goldman's will have the opportunity to oppose his parole when he's up? $33MM settlement be damned, if they can convince the parole board to keep him for the full 15 it's gonna be sweet irony.

I hope he gets to play Center in prison.

Once a thug, always a thug.

Most of the thugs we see have been thugs for most of their life. I don't remember anything about OJ having problems until the murder. He had a great career and did movies and was seen as such a nice and personable guy (I think he was anyway) then he just goes crazy it seems.

www.breitbart.com

This link says at least 15 years!

This link says at least 15 years!

#11 | Posted by the_nether

The sentence is 15 year... 6 years before he's eligible for parole.

Yes--the sentence was 15 years along with a bunch of other 12 mos --72 mos etc.

They all run concurrent--meaning at the same time--versus consecutive which would be one sentence after the other.

But the first time he is eligible for parole is 5 years and something about the gun being a bonus--so 6 years minimum.

And it is unlikely he will get parole on the first hearing.

CA has parole hearings every 2 years--right?

Not sure about NV.

So he is likely going to spend up to 8 years or more in prison.

Yes and to make it more difficult to decipher some sentences were concurrent, some consecutive. I listened to the sentencing hearing and couldn't keep up.

"Count 4 12-48 months concurrent to count 2, consecutive to count three" and such as that.

Only took 12 years to get the guy.

On a hardly related note, I was watching "Capricorn One" on TCM a few weeks back and kept thinking I recognized the black astronaut, but couldn't place him. It wasn't until about 2/3 of the way through the movie that I realized that it was OJ! Here's to not seeing him on any form of media for another 15.

"I don't remember anything about OJ having problems until the murder. "

Wife-beating isn't a "problem"?!?

I said I didn't remember.

He beat her? I'm not doubting it just can't recall.

I don't think it was really publicized until the murder trial, and then it came out that there had been numerous domestic battery calls in the past.

He beat the crap out of her and left bruises and black eyes.

Then he decided to decapitate her--and stabbed Goldman who was there at the wrong place at the wrong time about 180 times.

Someone posted the image of Goldman--dead.

I won't go looking for it.

He beat her? I'm not doubting it just can't recall.

#17 | Posted by eberly

Spud recalls her sister showing pictures of Nicole after an OJ beatdown that she kept in a safety deposit book.

Grim stuff.

How is he supposed to find Nicole's killer if he's locked up? Have we no heart?

#3 | Posted by OohRah

Perhaps this is all part of OJ's cunning plan to find the real killahs, Ooh. Ever think of that? Ya see, OJ has obviously scoured the earth looking for the real killahs all these years and having not found them he musta figured that they have been caught and sent to jail. Maybe he even knows wot jail and wot cell it is. Ergo he set up this high publicity take down of himself in order to be put away in the same jail as the real killahs. Once he's in he's gonna take his sweet time setting up a little sweet revenge against the awful men who took his beluffed Nicole away from him as well as slaughtering the unfortunate Ron Goldman.

After successfully pursuing justice he will be released by the authorities (who were in on the scheme all along) and then once he's cleared his besmirched name it's nothing but ticker tape parades and the high life fer po' ole misunderstood OJ.

/Yes, sarcasm. How could you tell?

Be Well.

/Yes, joke was stolen but from whom?

I won't shed any tears for him, but 15 years for this crime seems a bit ridiculous. Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?

He beat the crap out of her and left bruises and black eyes.

I was referring to when he was in college and his NFL career.

the wife beating didn't start until after all of that.....right?

My point was that most thugs like Mike Tyson etc..start out illustrating their complete disrespect for life much younger than OJ did(seemingly).

Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?

probably not without prior convictions.

Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?

The scumbag he was sentenced with today got the same thing.

OY, am I savoring this one.

I just got off the phone with an old co-worker who's taking me to dinner tomorrow night, due to an old bet I made with him thirteen years ago. It was my contention that Simpson's sociopath tendencies would land him in prison sooner or later, even if Lance Ito did let Johnnie Cochran grandstand the Juice to freedom; I felt that O.J. wouldn't be able to conceal his nature forever. My co-worker held that even if O.J. did kill Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, he'd be super-careful to keep his nose clean from that point forward.

So, I'm collecting. I only hope Nicole and Ron are somehow aware that O.J. is going to be spending a long time behind bars, where I felt he belonged all along.

P.S.: All these years later, I am still pissed that Ito let Cochran get away with that glove trick. O.J. spread his hands as wide as they'd go, and then Cochran made his famous "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit" closing. If only Ito had been competent, he might have instructed the defendant to make a conscientious effort to put the gloves on, and we'd all have been spared a lot of hooey.

The Postman Always Rings Twice.

"Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?"

Yes

" If only Ito had been competent, he might have instructed the defendant to make a conscientious effort to put the gloves on"

And if Darden was competent, he would have had a professional glove-maker fit it on OJ's hands.

BTW, watch OJ take the gloves off next time. Too-small gloves can't be removed that easily.

It is obvious that everyone thinks OJ got away with murder but he was not on trial for that here.

The thing that seems odd to me (and correct me if I am wrong) is that the prosecutor submitted an audio tape of the event into evidence that the prosecution admitted had been edited and it was this tape that was pointed to as a reason for the verdict.

How was an edited tape allowed in as evidence and used for conviction?

If this is true, it sets an odd precedent on a very slippery slop

How was an edited tape allowed in as evidence and used for conviction?

Something buffalo bob would love to know!!!

"Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?"

OJ (1)had the misfortune to draw a judge known for harsh sentences, and (2) used a firearm in the commission of the crimes he was convicted of. I didn't hear the verdict...did they throw out the kidnapping count? If not, that might well be #3.

The verdict will be appealed, 100% guaranteed.

You'd think that after Darden and Clark handed him a get-out-of-jail-free card in Ito's court, he'd have been a bit more circumspect. But former USC footballers are not known for circumspectness. Nevertheless, Rcade was right (as always) with "Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?" herm

How was an edited tape allowed in as evidence and used for conviction?

If this is true, it sets an odd precedent on a very slippery slop

Sounds like a retroactive conviction, to make up for the LA DA's clusterfuck of a case.

O.J.'s facing a world of Hertz in the big house.

The scumbag he was sentenced with today got the same thing.

Sure, but he was O.J.'s codefendant. If a nobody did what O.J. did here -- or some athlete without his past did the same crime -- I have trouble believing he'd take up a prison cell for 15 years.

Will they rape a 61 year old?

Yep

Maybe bush will pardon him.

"O.J.'s facing a world of Hertz in the big house."

That would mean Hertz is number 2.

And all along they claimed it was Avis who tried harder.

Hans

RCADE

I won't shed any tears for him, but 15 years for this crime seems a bit ridiculous.
Would anyone else have seen that much jail time for this?

15 years is not too bad a sentence -- considering there were guns involved. Under Nevada law OJ could have received a life sentence. I think he's now eligible for parole in 9 years.

OJ's sentence was so harsh because Las Vegas is extremely tough when it comes to the use of ANY guns when committing a crime. If OJ and buddies had just gone to that hotel room and physically roughed up the other guys but had not brought any guns with them, OJ most likely would have received a lot less than 15 years jail time.

Now lets go get the White Bankers Right???

"I just arrest them!! I don't make 'em steal!!"

-Nick Nolte...."Another 48 Hours"

I have trouble believing he'd take up a prison cell for 15 years.

~Jolly Rogers

He won't.

O.J.'s facing a world of Hertz in the big house.

~Rein.

That would mean Hertz is number 2.

~Hans.

Wow, and Spud thought he was the truly shameless one hereabouts.

Well played, sirs!

Now lets go get the White Bankers Right???

~Prolix

Ha! Good one.

Nope, sadly, prolly not.

Justice seems truly blind to *ahem* White collar crime.

Be Well.

It only Hertz for a little while. Then you actually kinda enjoy it.
- OJ's future roommate

#43 | Posted by OohRah

"If it doesn't fit...

... tough!"

- OJ's future husband

A lesson to heed: keep away from bad company, even good people are dragged or tainted when things happen with rash and uncaring people.

Right now, on News RAW I'm watching Stewart pleading for a lighter and concurrent sentence. I hope he gets it, as he appears remorseful and humbled.

If it doesn't fit...

... tough!"

- OJ's future husband

Posted by SanAntonioRogue

/obligatory

Be Well.

I hope he gets it, as he appears remorseful and humbled.

#46 | Posted by takitez

More remorseful than when he took the stand at his wife's murder trail? Fuck him. He always was a shitty actor.

Wisgod, I'm talking about Stewart, not OJ Simpson. I have decided not to comment on the latter --- things better left unsaid.

Right now, on News RAW I'm watching Stewart pleading for a lighter and concurrent sentence. I hope he gets it, as he appears remorseful and humbled.

#46 | Posted by takitez

Sentence has been passed. I don't think it can be changed now.

And "remorseful"? I guess realizing you're finally going to be held responsible for your actions might be an eye opener.

Wisgod, I'm talking about Stewart, not OJ Simpson. I have decided not to comment on the latter --- things better left unsaid.

#49 | Posted by takitez

Gotcha. My bad.

It was inevitable that eventually he would do something violent again that WOULD get him locked up. I hope Nicole Brown's and Ron Goldman's families will now have some sense of closure. They've waited long enough.

52 comments and no references to Naked Gun? How we forget the classics.

"Nice Beaver"

-Leslie Neilson....Naked Gun

If only Ito had been competent, he might have instructed the defendant to make a conscientious effort to put the gloves on.

OJ's former memorabilia promoter claims that OJ stopped taking a medication for arthritis and that allowed his knuckles to swell. Others claim he curled his thumb.

But the best explanation for OJ's acquittal came from Jerry Spence who trashed Clark and Darden for failing to present a proper case.

What gets me is the concurrent sentencing. Seems if you're going to commit a crime you might as well bundle up. If sentencing were consecutive then 15 years would be about right for a half dozen felonies.

Doesn't matter. He won't serve that long.

I ran into Leslie Neilsen in a small club 25 years ago. Funny man! He had one of those hand held fart noise thingys. Kept everyone in stitches for a couple of hours. Left with a hot 22 year old hot waitress.

Chris is right, in Nevada they really go after people for pulling shit like this because they don't want anyone to get the impression that Vegas is the type of place where this could happen to you.

He left with a hot 22 year old waitress. I wanted to LOL

I heard in jail OJ was wishing for 'golf and fishing'.

Hell is a million times worse literally --- don't go there.

Left with a hot 22 year old hot waitress.

#56 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

You, or Leslie?

Doesn't matter. He won't serve that long.

#55 | Posted by OzarkAggie

You're right, he probably won't serve anywhere near 15, but he has to serve at least 6. And that (I hope) will seem like an eternity to him.

SANAN

He left with a hot 22 year old waitress.

I gotta feelin' O.J.'s gonna get it in the bung hole

Our favorite X-football player and people slayer get to finally meet our other "friend", Bubba. You do remember Bubba don't you? He is that 6'8" mixed (all) race 350# man lover. He has been waiting for OJ for some time. By the way OJ, he really likes it when you fight back. His IQ 12 and his appendage 12" seem adequate to the task.

Let's see, just where is that soap?....

A dear friend of mine knew all too well a man who was convicted of murder in the first degree. I asked him, what did he think?

"I think he's exactly where he needs to be."

And I agree in this case..OJ is exactly where he needs to be.

Like a blind man at an orgy, Ole "juice" is going to have to feel his way through......

I hope that Like a midget at a urinal, he satys on his toes.

His sex life is gunna be alot like his basket ball games, one on one and with alot of dribbling and crying.

"
His sex life is gunna be alot like his basket ball games
"

He played football.

Ya, but i was speaking to his post-career past times Golf and B-bal with "friends"

plus I couldn't think of a good Footbal one.. Oh well.

Orange Jumpsuit.

Anyone think He will get a Reality TV show deal outa this?

I'm think of the title as something like

O.J. 24/7, 6-15.

Here's a classic about OJ from the Howard Stern Show: ('ol Black OJ)

content.ytmnd.com

Grossly overcharged. Grossly oversentenced.

This so-called crime was a Keystone Kop type event, a comedy that would have warranted misdemeanor time at most.

OJ has been tried and sentenced for the Goldman slaying here.

What is he, 60 years of age. Then I suppose he'll be at least 70 by the time he's released. But then, the parole board may be of the same mind as the prosecutors, judge and jury, and decide they don't want to release him before the full sentence has been served.

I heard that he received a gun enhancement which in most jurisidictions runs consecutively by mandate. Did OJ carry a gun, or was it one of his "confederates."

I wonder where he learned his thuggery. His mother had an MSW, a Master's Degree is it, in social work, and so he was seemingly not exposed to a "ghetto mentality."

Who will take care of the children now? What a trauma for them. Another dislocation. How old are they? Terrible thing.

I wonder what kind of record Stewart had to receive the same time as OJ? Here he was not the "mastermind" that OJ was, the initiator of the action, and he falls just as hard?

Johnson--it doesn't matter--when there is a gun--all the people involved have a gun in the eyes of the law.

OJ had the gun.

The other cohorts copped a plea and testified against OJ--they still got jail time, just not as much.

Here is the audio tape of what occurred in the room and was played to the jury.

OJ Robbery Tape

OJ is a sociopathic monster and it's amazing it took 14 years after the murders for him to do something else.

It's amazing no one was shot during this fiasco.

He is 61 and likely not to get parole the first time up.

He won't be out until he is 70 or so.

Fitting punishment for the crime.

Y'all really think OJ is in danger of forced man love in the clink? He'll have a protection crew in no time - suck ups (no pun intended) that will offer protection just so they can say they were one of his boys long after he's gone.

While addressing the court before/after? his sentencing he sounded like a rambling douche bag. What was up with the coerced porn movie? I would have laughed so hard in that courtroom I'd have spent time for contempt.

And if you interested--here is Nicole's autopsy report.

www.lectlaw.com

Her injuries were

"All the injuries are antemortem, unless otherwise specified."

Meaning they were inflicted after she was already dead.

He almost completely decapitated her.

Here is Ron Goldman's report

www.lectlaw.com

He won't be in the general population.

Rot.

Pedro guerrero.

Don't worry! Obama will pardon his soul brother!!!

Don't worry! Obama will pardon his soul brother!!!

#81 | Posted by Humorrapist

So the first part of your name is sarcasm, and the second part is your prison fantasy?

You are aptly named.

Johnson, those two kids are young adults now and they happen to have many family members on BOTH sides of their parentage who are ready to help them. If I remember correctly, the daughter has called the police several times on her father. That must have been one horrifically dysfunctional household. There has never been any proof the kids did not hear something that terrible night. This was bound to happen...I'm sure that the family is just happy that the victims this time were not members of his immediate family.

while eating lunch at the old sports bar they kept running the video of this murdering piece of shit talking after being sentenced or it may have been just before and I couldnt help thinking that it was too bad that he wasnt 'rehabilitated' here in texas after plunging that knife repeatedly into his wifes body

and I agree with her fathers' assesment of this

something about the sob finnaly getting what he deserved.

and do ANY of you liberals STILL believe about all that glove fitting bullshit???

and do ANY of you liberals STILL believe about all that glove fitting bullshit???

~Rusty T

Yer question presupposes that "liberals" originally believed in the "glove fitting bullshit" which is not the case.

Yer not too bright are you?

Y'all really think OJ is in danger of forced man love in the clink? He'll have a protection crew in no time - suck ups (no pun intended) that will offer protection just so they can say they were one of his boys long after he's gone.

~Johnny Lock

Damn! There goes Spud's shadenfraude moment blown all to hell by JL's interjection of reality.

Thanx a bunch, Johnny!

While addressing the court before/after? his sentencing he sounded like a rambling douche bag. What was up with the coerced porn movie?

Whaa? Orenthal pulled a Hogan? News to Spud!

OJ is a sociopathic monster and it's amazing it took 14 years after the murders for him to do something else.

~Murphy.

Agreed, unless you wanna call the time his own daughter had to call 9/11 on his rage-a-holic ass "something else"

Be Well.

I don't disagree with the general impression of OJ as dysfunctional. It seems, however, that we have difficulty reviewing the Nevada charge separately and on its own merits. Is OJ a bad guy, who belongs in jail for what he has done during his life? That's likely.

But almost all of the posters here justify his charge and conviction for the Nevada event on the basis that he deserved it for his previous legally unrelated conduct. On the basis of the Nevada incident itself, the whole procedure is a travesty.

Since I find myself agreeing with Johnson I can only conclude that the parallel universes are merging, an event of some moment whose consequences cannot be stated with certaintly let alone imagined.
(To be continued)

He was framed!!

Travesty my ass...he used a handgun in the commission of multiple class A felonies. There's probably some mandatory guidelines in the Nevada penal code as to sentencing per each count. Plus there's the kidnapping charge. I'm thinking that if there were no guns used, then OJ and his Gimme Back My Shit gang would have faced five to ten/out in three for simple strong arm robbery and the kidnapping charge would have thrown out having no grounds to base it on.

Moot point, now. But fear now...there will be an appeal, I'm sure. Maybe George will pardon him and offer him a "position" down there in 43's mythical Uruguayan Hole-In-The-Wall hideout.

OJ and his Gimme Back My Shit gang

~Dutch

Okay, FF fer that alone.

Plus, Spud quite concurs with yer assessment there.

mythical Uruguayan Hole-In-The-Wall hideout

How odd, Spud has been metally thinking of Team BushCo as the "Hole in the Head Gang" fer a bit now.

Spooky synchronicity or just Captain Obvious to the rescue once agin?

Be Well.

I want OJ to get another trial because I believe this juries decision was based largely on payback for the aquittal of OJ in the murder trial. from their own Statements afterwards. They declared this was a retaliatory verdict to right a wrong they saw at OJ's double murder trial back in the mid 1990's He deserves a new trial as bad as I hate to say it.

Larry

Anyone that tries to get stuff back from "friends" and takes a gun deserves this.

OJ is a thug! RIH OJ!

Correction on #77

antemortem--is Before death (not after death).

How could anyone still be alive with the wounds inflicted?

MURPHY

I've been playing thread tag trying to catch up with you. Left you this same message yesterday on your "Mormon" userthread in order to let you know the following --

I had left you a (2-part) post on the 12/4 Nooner (in response to your post to me the day after Thanksgiving about your Dad).

Thanks CC--lol

I'll go find it.

Ok--CC--I am unable to find your post?

MURPHY

Ok--CC--I am unable to find your post?

Here's the direct link to that Nooner (12/4)

My posts to you are #55 and #56 --

NOONER

Thanks CC---

"You could have the emails cc'd to you or someone else in your family who has a computer and then you could mail them directly to your Dad for him to read. That way I think he might be more interested in attending the reunion and would probably feel more comfortable about it too. These guys wouldn't be such total strangers anymore either since it's been so many years. Might take away some of the apprehension he may have about meeting everyone again after so many years apart.
"

I think that is a great idea!

My Dad is a stubborn man (I don't know where he gets it from ;o))

He saw the print outs and said he had those. I pointed out some of the items he may not have seen.

I gave him the emails I received as well.

Then we corraled him into the room with the computer to show him on the internet. He seemed impressed, but no--he was not doing cartwheels.

I was thinking he would not be "joyful". That is just not how he is. My hubby said as much on the way home.

We also talked about him going to FL for the reunion. He started giving excuses.

He has received mail from them--that is how he new about the upcoming reunion and he said he turned it down.

Too long of a trip, they all want to play golf, his ankle hurts him and he wouldn't be able to play, sitting in an airport.

So my sister offered to go with him. There are direct flights--so no waiting around for a connector. He doesn't need to go for all 4 days. He could go for 2 days. (I think I saw his eyebrow move on that suggestion). He doesn't need to play golf. There will be lots of guys not playing golf. He could drive the cart if he wanted to be on the course.

These are all excuses to not talk about the big elephant in the room. That would be his feelings about Vietnam and having to talk about it/them.

You know you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.

So we'll have to see.

But I'll start with emails.

Thanks for the post.

There's probably some mandatory guidelines in the Nevada penal code as to sentencing per each count. #90 | Posted by dutch46

Yep matter of fact recently some one I once knew got 7-15 years for attempted armed robbery though the revolver was not only empty but lacked it's cylinder and all he got was his face punched in by the intended victim.

Nevada is particuarly sensitive to crimes committed with guns, especially if you happen to be in one of the resort hotels at the time you commit the crime. The judge told OJ that he was very, very lucky no passersby were in the hallway and that the gun did not discharge on accident. Had he been party to having one of the Las Vegas tourists shot, you can bet he would have been serving much harder time than he got. As it is, apparently the sentencing was lighter than expected. At least OJ lawyers seemed very pleased that he got the sentence he did considering he could have been sentenced to a much longer period of time. I sure won't be crying any tears for that sob. This was bound to happen sooner or later. He is a thug, pure and simple and eventually he ran into a judge who wasn't buying into his act.

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