But is there a limit as to what can or can't be acceptable? #1 | Posted by OohRah

Sadly and obviously not.

OK, for those who may think this is a good idea... how comfortable would you be if a church ran an ad for its youth group activities? Or an abortion clinic? Condom sales, etc?

Historically (at least as best I can recall) schools used to try to keep ads out of the kids' face. Over time that's likely changed. But is there a limit as to what can or can't be acceptable?

I heard this story on the radio the other day.

You know who the guy is selling ad's to? Companies in the community. They say things like "Bill's Plumbing wishes the class of 2010 a great year!" It's not "tell your mom and dad to get their pipes cleaned by Bills Plumbing".

If a church wanted to advertise community activities, great. So long as they're not writing "God loves you" on the bottom of the test, there's no issue.

Did you read the article?

Ax,

I am afraid you have missed the point, now that they have accepted adds they can't turn down who wants to place the add or it is discrimination.

This isn't private now, it is a public school.

The first time they turn down a business entity for thinking it doesn't fit the moral code the school district can be sued for discrimination.

I like the ingenuity of this teacher but cutting the budget down to where the teacher know longer has the ability to make enough copies for the year for exams is outright stupid.

The teacher would be better off not giving exams and not giving grades and telling the district that the kids do not make the requirement to pass because there is not the necessary supplies to successfully educate for a passing level. If all the teachers did this the district would quickly rethink their funding cuts.

All cuts should be away from the class room, not one cut should be made that restricts the learning process of the students or the ability of the teacher to keep the learning available.

The state representatives should be thrown out for neglect of their purpose and fiduciary responsibility.

Moneywar, If the teacher gave whomever wants the ads a guideline of what the content could be as a contract then wouldn't that alleviate the problem? I am not sure of this and it just came out of my head (like most things)... but it seems like that could be done to circumvent any discrimination and contraversy...

Personally, I think it's sad that teachers must resort to this type of thing JUST to pay for paper so kids can get practice.... any math teacher/tutor will tell you that lots of practice is the best way to learn and remember math... As long as it stays towards things like inspirational messages I have absolutely no problem with it... I really liked how the parents stepped up and bought ads for inspirational messages to the class.

California schools went from 1st to 48th in the nation after Prop 13 caps on taxes in 1978.

Reaganism eventually gives you ads on school tests.

Historically (at least as best I can recall) schools used to try to keep ads out of the kids' face.

#1 | Posted by OohRah at 2008-12-03 05:52 PM | Reply

Advertising is part of American culture. And it has been in school for more than 100 years.

Remember when you were a kid and in 'science' class tried to burn asbestos? Who do you think paid for those kits?

Asbestos companies. You sucked up their asbestos smoke.

Remember brushing your teeth and chewing those tablets that made the plaque turn orange?

Proctor & Gamble. Selling Crest.

Teachers are always desperate for teaching materials, and private business is always at hand.

A few years ago Frito_Lay had a school program where they told children that there is more salt in a slice of bread than a 'serving' of chips (technically true). And every kid got a free bag of chips.

See? Fritos are more healthy than bread!

Right now, in your local schools, there is a campaign about washing your hands. If you do a good job you get coupons to McDonald's.

M&M's enjoyed a huge sales increase thanks to Channel One, which began in 1989 ...

Rancho Bernardo High is one of the richest schools in San Diego County. This guy is an opportunist, and probably an asshole.

Strategically placed product management is a course all kids should take isn't it? It prepares them for the "world they'll live in" more so than say, learning to balance a damn check book!

What BS. I also think its BS that teachers are this strapped for supplies. I can't speak for CA, but in my neck of the woods in VA, my 5 yr old had to have 50 packs of everything on her list? 50 glue sticks and they just sent home a letter wanting us to buy more. I see what she does in school & there is no way they've used all those glue sticks. They're stockpiling! Unique to my kids district you ask? Not hardly. My neices & nephews scattered over 5 or 6 counties have the same thing. Its not that the teachers have to fill in the gaps, they ask the parents who give a shit to buy extra for the kids whose parents talk on their $200.00 cell phone during the school play if they even bother to show up in their designer clothes but are "needy" enough that they can't afford a freaking buck at the Dollar Store for their kids' glue stick. Jesus!

#11 | Posted by HATEBIGGOV

Wow! Really? I remember my parents having to buy our own supplies... but we didn't have to share... of course we all did have to bring in a box of tissues or something for the whole class to share, but never 50 glue stix.. we all had our own... but that was in the late '80's and in a school run by the education sector of the DoD as we were in Europe...

That's just stupid...

One of my best friends is a 1st grade teacher and she spent $6,000 of her own money to buy supplies and decorations for her classroom... :/

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in anyway questioning the dedication of individual teachers, the teacher's union is a different story, I'm just saying that many parents don't do their part as to the supplies and many of the things teachers "want" may not necessarily be "needs". And to clarify, I didn't literally mean 50, but multiples of everything, many, not just 2 or 3. The list called for & I bought 5 packs of 4 glue sticks. That times 25 kids is a lot.

California schools went from 1st to 48th in the nation after Prop 13 caps on taxes in 1978.

Reaganism eventually gives you ads on school tests.

#6 | Posted by silver_ironist

Silver,
Prop 13 is the only working tax mechanism left in California. It has already been reported that Prop 13 homes have helped maintain a level tax base while home prices are dropping and homes are being reappraised. It also allows families to stay in their primary homes without being taxed out.

Just remember this last real estate bubble could have forced thousands of people from their homes due to increased (fabricated) property assessments.

Now, I do agree with you on prop 13 commercial properties.

I do think that they should be hit with a 3% increase this year to be reassessed every five years (just to make it fair to businesses).

Since Prop 13 commercial property is a revenue generating property for the owners and not their primary residence they should be taxed and adjusted fairly.

I have lived in Southern California all my life and am very familiar with Prop 13.

What HATE meant to say is that it is the fault of minorities and labor unions. Right? Isn't that the myth that you have bought into? She/ he see a black person on the phone and see a good for nothing, lazy individuals who are living high on the hog on welfare (Note: oxymoron). Does she/ he realize that unions where created out of horrible labor injustices of our past. Imagine what teacher would be paid without a union. Not that there is always some cleaning house to be done within. Corrupt people can be found in all facets of life and business. Oh yeah as also meant to say that she exaggerates exponentially most of the time to make a point.

labor injustices of our past

You said it. Our past! Unions nowadays are proof that the road to hell is paved w/ good intentions. Not one union rep in DC gives a rats ass about what a teacher in rural VA is going through & you know it! They tie their hands at every turn and take decisions that should be made in the classroom out of the classroom with a "one size fits all mentality" that is classic behavior of the left in this country! No one said anything about race or welfare except you! Putting wants in front of needs, or worse yet, pretending like those wants ARE legitimate needs is wrong & stupid period but downright criminal on the public dime regardless of who is doing it! Don't presume to know what I "meant" to say. I meant exactly what I said. Who said they were blacks on the phone anyway? Are your stereotypes & preconceived notions coming into play? Its the ultimate irony you would finish up with an observation on corruption when defending unions wouldn't you say?

Hate
It actually not ironic at all. It's what you dislike about union and the problem I have with corporate America.
Who and where are these "kids whose parents talk on their $200.00 cell phone during the school play if they even bother to show up in their designer clothes but are "needy"" you so vividly defined? How do you know so much about them? What is it that you do, to so clearly see into their lives to brand "them" America's scapegoat?

So we've agreed to disagree. You want to give corporations the shaft for the same behavior you celebrate & defend in your lazy neighbors? We're just not going to see eye to eye on this one thank God or I'd just shoot myself because I'd officially be a "victim" too.

I'm not about victimization. I'm am also not about demonization.

Unless the victims are the "poor" and the demons are "corporations". I just want to clarify for future reference. There is good and bad in everyone if you look you can find both.

I have the answers to the Urine Test.
Sincerely, LetUsPrey

answers to the Urine Test

The answer is negative.

Please, God, let it be negative.