good to see this info getting out!

The US should not be so tied up in Israel's affairs. We don't need to show them tough love. We need to take care of ourselves. Somehow, I think Israel may become less tolerant of their extremist settlers once we aren't footing the bill and waiting in the wings to fight for them. If they do choose to continue on the path of eternal war without our help, that is their problem.

Americans should not be taxed and the money given away overseas. People who want to work for Israel should do so privately instead of using the government to force all of us to work for Israel.

He's right.

The hypocrisy inherent in our support of a militaristic and religiously-zealous country like Israel while simultaneously condemning those same qualities in other countries is disgraceful.

Until you guys realize the truth, no 'tough-love' or nothing else is going to make any difference.

Look at the names on the federal reserve and in key positions in all the banks and you will see why the US can't shake Israel. All Jewish.

We will always be fighting for them because they are evil and want only one thing - to stay in control. They created a religion that made them the chosen people and the rest of the religious idiots fell for it.

Then they were able to create a national bank for the US and they now control all the money, money values and interst rates.

We should just nuke Israel and get rid of all three problems at once.

i'd say give the israelis north and south dakota, but then they would just piss off the canadians.

The hypocrisy inherent in our support of a militaristic and religiously-zealous country like Israel while simultaneously condemning those same qualities in other countries is disgraceful.
posted by Kinger

Great article, too bad everything in it will go unheard by the people who have the power to change our foreign policy.

We should just nuke Israel and get rid of all three problems at once.
posted by Lipzoidial

Knock, knock.
Who's there?
FBI.

Tough love.

LOL

I'm sure sHillary will get right on that...

"Every nation on Earth reacted with horror at the Mumbai attacks, 9-11, South Africa's Apartheid, Darfur, etc.

"Yet for some reason, Israel can treat Palestine worse than the Nazis treated the Warsaw Ghetto and escape criticism.

"Upon what meat doth this our Israel feed that it has grown so great?"

wrote M.R. of Wrh after posting the below from Finland on his website!

Assad urges EU to help lift Gaza blockade

We should just nuke Israel and get rid of all three problems at once.
posted by Lipzoidial

Knock, knock.
Who's there?
FBI.

posted by defiant

How to be DEFIANT with the FBI...

This is the FBI. We have a few questions for you.

This is the business card of my attorney. Please contact him and he can arrange an appointment.
DOOR SLAM!

Three things to remember when the FBI comes knocking at your door

1) Don't Talk

2) Don't Talk to Them

3) Don't Talk to the FBI!

>>"Yet for some reason, Israel can treat Palestine worse than the Nazis treated the Warsaw Ghetto and escape criticism.

>>Syrian President Bashar al-Assad held talks with two French envoys on Sunday and urged Paris and the European Union, currently headed by France, to work to lift the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

The premise of the first comment is ridiculous. Things are rough in Gaza but don't approach extermination.

The 'government' of Gaza is similar to the 'government' of Somalia. The widespread missile attacks are like the pirate raids -- a lawless situation with many causes. The Israeli approach may not be working, but who would tell the shipping owners and their countries to just ignore the pirate attacks?

The US may have to apply tough love to Israel to change the current situation, but it would help if neighboring countries would apply tough love to the Palestinians, as well.

"Yet for some reason, Israel can treat Palestine worse than the Nazis treated the Warsaw Ghetto and escape criticism."

Utter nonsense. Nobody is being carted away from Gaza to be slaves, medical experiments or murder victims. WWII era Jews also weren't clinging to eternal conflict that the way the Palestinians have either. No people on Earth right now are more self destructive or poorly led than Palestinians and that is something that would be foolish to ignore.

It is possible to disagree with Israel without being a lying, one sided drama queen about it. When you choose to overdramatize the situation and to pretend that the Palestinians haven't contributed to their own plight, you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

I saw we let Israel alone and just let them nuke Iran.

Israel is the front lines of what we all just watched in Mumbai ...

You people are still so delusional.

The Jews In Mumbai were targeted, sought out and killed. And according to one of the doctors "It was obvious that they were tied up and tortured before they were killed. It was so bad that I do not want to go over the details even in my head again,"

Here is GZ to post his shitty propaganda about the poor jews and they are being the target.

My word, does the lying bigot ever think there might be something wrong with his thinking.

Shut up MW you fool ... you are so clueless you embarrass yourself every time you open your mouth.

Frankly after reading the article, I agree with much of what Cohen says, however the problem is Hamas - which Cohen conveniently doesn't deal with at all and yet they are about half the population.

Hamas like Hezbollah and the countless Muslim brotherhood groups are all about Islam versus the infidel and not about co existence or compromise or any sort.

What so many just don't get is it doesn't matter if Israel disappeared tomorrow. It won't calm anything down. It will change nothing or at least be extremely insignificant. maybe the far Left would finally get it but that's even doubtful. They'll just go on to fight another Islamist battle like Kashmir and why they want Spain's Granada back.

You've got decades of these uneducated unenlightened Maddrass kids floating around and some rogue elements like ISI exploiting them or even Hezbollah who recently seized power in Lebanon and have their hands on all those US weapons we gave the Lenanese - before Hezbollah turned their guns on their own people and staged a coup ... or don't any of you remember that?

This is way way bigger then Israel and maybe it comforts you to imagine if Israel is gone it all gets better, but you'd be sadly mistaken. Mumbai or the weekly murdering in Thailand should have opened your eyes by now.

I worked for Obama because I believe he's smart enough and tough enough to understand when reasoning and logic won't work that other measures will have to be taken - and my guess is they will indeed have to be taken

Yep, it is everyone elses problem and blame except israel.

GZ is like a hardcore drunk in self delusional thinking when conversing about israel. Too funny!

Greetings DR posters.
Lipzoidial what an interesting POV.

The reply to your comment by Dfiant brings about a much needed question.
Why would the FBI show up at an American citizen's door for merely disagreeing with Israeli policy?

In GZ's mind Israel is perfect and holds no blame ever!

other measures will have to be taken

You don't mess with the Zohan!

Creep.

Yes, let's side with the Islamists. Forget Israel and kiss up to Islam instead.

Yep, this board loves to court evil, and disparage the good.

....all so that we can have our gay sex and smoke dope.

Lipzoidmanica and Moneywart, can you please go and fuck yourselves. Better yet, why don't you screw each other.

5 million Jews against I don't know how many 100's of million Arabs. No wonder they have the best man to man fighting force in the world. Still need heavy US military aid and political leverage or its doomsday.

Crisis

CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT WANING FOR ISRAEL SINCE US JEWS CONTINUALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC.

CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT WANING FOR ISRAEL SINCE US JEWS CONTINUALLY VOTE DEMOCRATIC.

Posted by ozzieoswald

It's difficult to understand your intent here when you use all caps.

Did you mean U.S. Jews or we Jews?

Memo to Ozooie:

Find the "Caps Lock" key on keyboard. It needs some attendng to.

"I saw {sic} we let Israel alone and just let them nuke Iran."

#13 | Posted by utastaff

Riiiiight... That will most certainly bring peace to the entire region. And no doubt the Chinese won't mind a bit of radioactive fallout or the loss of one of their major suppliers of crude. Of course, the entire planet will praise the Israelis for deploying the nuclear weaponry that they will not admit formally they possess.

If Israel was gone tomorrow, Islam would still want to kill the great Satan. Jews just have the bulk of their hatred but there is plenty to go around. They'll kill their own why will they play nice w/ everyone else? The irony is, even if you took out the political aspects, the religious ones are the meat of the issue and believers know that Israel cannot be defeated so Conservative support will never truly wane for Israel because that would be turning on God. Boy, its good we're finally getting somewhere in this whole mess isn't it? Right........

Oh, but you mean all these wars and fighting is religious? You mean we have not learned from the last 800 years and the crusades?

We have to thank israel for such ignorance. I always find it funny how israel and those who support israel cry about how they were abused, suppressed, and killed during WWII but can't seemed to see what they are doing right now with palestinians.

The most egocentric selfish race ever to occupy this planet is israel.

As long as the Palestinians make everything they think, say, or do about Israel, they'll never be happy. How is that Israel's fault? I get that the whole "chosen" thing pisses everyone off but the Palestinians kill indiscriminately and fight amongst themselves as often as they fight everyone else! Everytime the Israelis give them anything, they want more. If Israel were gone tomorrow they still wouldn't be happy so blaming Israel is getting them nowhere. You think they'd learn but as long as their entire culture is steeped in a religion of death, they won't.

Tough love. LOL. I'm sure Hillary will get right on that... --#8 | Posted by IraqiBukkake

I think the main problem in Israel is the fact that Eastern European Jews were senselessly placed back in Israel (Palestine) and have taken over the government (the children of Esau). This was the first step in the downfall of Israel (children of Jacob)

If we were to take a serious look at who those Eastern European Jews were we would find that they were the more radical, rich and persuasive (ruthless money changers) elements in the eastern ghettos. Their blood lust has never been satisfied since those days of humiliation and deprivation and they have been searching for revenge since.

The children of Esau (Eastern European Jews) will take revenge on all the Semites (children of Jacob) to again gain preeminence (the first born) in the land called Israel.