Um sir, to paraphrase an old, old, old joke?

You don't play the game, you don't make the rules.

The Dalai Lama is wrong.

the Buddhist credo of non-attachment

Finally we have an authoritative source for the "love 'em and leave 'em" strategy.

"His Holiness" looks on sex as an abstraction, with legs of its own. I see it more as a way of relating to another person. It doesn't enslave, and it does liberate. herm

I'm sure all of the Buddhists in Hollywood will make this teaching more widely known.

He knows "fleeting satisfaction" as well as anybody else, it seems.

He said conjugal life caused "too much ups and downs."

LOL

And, of course, the greatest philosophical truth of all time: (Recommended for the Dali Lama and everybody)

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-11-29 11:36 AM

He said conjugal life caused "too much ups and downs."

LOL

Voluntary celibacy is a perversion.

By the way, how come there are so many devout practicing Buddhists? Is cloning a secret Asian art?

Well then, for the conspiracy theorists it must seem that the Dalai Lama is another agent of the New World Order that purportedly is seeking to bring to the world population down to a sustainable number, 300,000,000.

The ultimate irony would be if this goal were accomplished, and then the Earth was destroyed in some cosmic catastrophe.

I wonder what the Dalai Lama's views are on masturbation for men and women, and involuntary nocturnal ejaculation for men?

Wouldn't "too much ins and outs" be a more appropriate observation?
#9 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-11-29 01:44 PM

Point well taken, Johnson!

I wonder what the Dalai Lama's views are on masturbation for men and women, and involuntary nocturnal ejaculation for men?

#11 | Posted by Johnson at 2008-11-29 01:54 PM

The aptly named Johnson once again displays his astounding ignorance.

masturbation is forbin to Buddhist monks and nuns and I'm sure the Dalai Lama, keeping in context with the rest of Buddhist teaching would consider masturbation a distraction.

Involuntary ejaculation of any kind would, of course, not matter, hence the word "involuntary."

Try reading something besides porn and The Collected Wit & Wisdom of Bill O'Reilly.

if it weren't for sex... he wouldn't be here.

Budhist sexual yoga is a pretty potent form of spiritualism, and I expect he knows all about it. Maybe he's pulling a Pope and trying to keep the flock from learning how easy it is to achieve enlightenment once you let go of the people who hold you back, ie, people like him.

Dear Dalai Lama: Fuck you.

Celibacy is as unnatural as beeing Vegan/Vegetarian. Both are fucking whacky ass ways to live.

the "Sutainablity" of the human race isnt 300,000,000. Most of the whack-a-loon "people are the Problem" dip shits actually say 90,000,000 is their golden number. But like I said they are Wack-a-loon dip shits.

Two of our leading resident righties apparently do NOT believe that 300 million, or even 90 million, is a a reasonable maximum for Earth population. They seem to be even deeper in De Nial than those who disbelieve global warming. herm

I seriously hope you are not calling me a "righty" for I assure you I am not. But I am not a "lefty" either. I have found that when one bends only to extremes the posture of their arguments becomes broken and ill standing. I have come to see a "Big Lie" in both the DEMS and the REPS.

A 2 party system is one of Controll, not choice.

Yo know what you call a point where one can only make Choice A or Choice B? Its called a Ultimatum.

YOu need more than 2 options to call it a choice.

My only questions about a "Sustanible" population is this. How?

DAMN MY TYPOS!

Dalai Lama: S-E-X Spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E

Right here in River City!

With a capitol T
And that rhymes with P
And that stands fer Pocketpool

/Sorry, couldna resist.
//Laws, Deth is weak Spud.

Oops fergot to add "Be Well" on that last postage.

Be Well.

Be Well.

/There now we're even.

Sex is good. Period.

The Dalai Lama, .... said sex spelt ... trouble

The Dalai Lama has the looks and charm of a turnip.

Of course he would say that.

I know I'm going to regret this but I have to ask.

The quote:"Voluntary celibacy is a perversion."

Wait, what? A perversion? I see it as a self defense mechanism. Somebody explain this to me.

/unless the reference is to not wanting to breed because the point of it is not seen.... after all that's all sex is good for, is putting more useless humans on the planet.... oh, that's why it's a perversion, now I get it.

#13 | Posted by briwo at 2008-11-29 05:25 PM

I wonder what the Dalai Lama's views are on masturbation for men and women, and involuntary nocturnal ejaculation for men?

The aptly named Johnson once again displays his astounding ignorance.

Then, along came briwo. who from his vast store of knowledge graciously reported on the status of this solitary practice among Buddhists.

masturbation is forbin to Buddhist monks and nuns and I'm sure the Dalai Lama, keeping in context with the rest of Buddhist teaching would consider masturbation a distraction.

Involuntary ejaculation of any kind would, of course, not matter, hence the word "involuntary."

(cont.)

(cont.)

Try reading something besides porn and The Collected Wit & Wisdom of Bill O'Reilly.

Again, thank you for your sage advice and inside information on masturbation, as practiced or as avoided by Buddhist religious functionaries.

Again from a pragmatic perspective, I suspect that masturbatory relief would provide for far less distraction than avoidance of autoerotic stimulation. The Dalai seems to be on to this, for with him sex seems to provide a "Wham. Bam. Thank you ma'am," transitory experience, or so he relates it. He seems to have anticipated the findings of the good professor on another thread on this blog that foreplay is wasted effort and energy, and that a man should just plug away and finish the process with the woman deriving satisfaction from coition itself.

I always marvel at these folks like the Buddha, who were wastrels when they were in their prime, and then with flagging desires find solace in the pretense that sex should be avoided. From my unenlightened perspective, voluntary celibacy is an ultimate perversion of nature.

Again briwo, thanks for the information although it seems to have been provided somewhat grudgingly, and with some intimations of negativity. But that could just be my misperception. I recognize you as a fount of goodness and a beacon of light to us all on proper social attitudes and behavior, and kindness in our address of others.

#22 | Posted by GotTruth at 2008-11-29 10:56 PM

DAMN MY TYPOS!

From Johnson: "From my unenlightened perspective, voluntary celibacy is an ultimate perversion of nature."

Oh hell, man perverts nature all the time. What's the problem?

/damn this "no sleep for you haha!"

#27 | Posted by LetUsReason at 2008-11-30 01:08 AM

The quote:"Voluntary celibacy is a perversion."

Wait, what? A perversion? I see it as a self defense mechanism. Somebody explain this to me

We have bodies. They generate activities to maintain the body, and to procreate.

We have a digestive system and an alimentary canal. We need to ingest energy and process it to survive. In the course of "processing" food, we urinate and defecate. Keeping ourselves from urinating and defecating is injurious to our health.

We don't deliberately impede the functioning of other body systems. We don't, for example, deliberately cut off our blood supply, bind our arteries.

We also have a progenerative system, so devised that for most of us, we have natural urges, indulgence of which are beneficial for our bodies. Some of these urges are quite complicated with glands and bodily chemistry is involved,and on a micro basis far more complicated. We indulge all of our other bodily functions. What is the reason for blocking fornication. There are homologous male and female organs that have separated in development, and which are drawn together by natural attraction. To differentiate sexual activity, and restrict our practice and enjoyment of it is a perversion, "a misuse" of a bodily function.

A definition of perversion is diversion from the true meaning or proper purpose. The proper use of functioning sex organs is fornication (and activities precedent - the process of seduction, whatever that might be in context). Indulgence seems to produce a tranquility and quiet appreciation of life, making man a more gregarious and social creature, less committed to strife.

Its sort of incomplete, and so partially unresponsive, but I'm preparing to go to bed shortly, so please forgive me.

S'okay, Johnson, I believe I see your point. I merely disagree. I have seen nothing that says if we don't screw or masturbate, or to be more accurate, if we choose deliberately not to screw or masturbate, we are killing ourselves.

Just because we have the tools, doesn't mean we are required to use them.

Anybody try and have sex with a turnip? No?

Anybody try and have sex with Dalai? No?

Turnips are to be put in the pot, not have sex with.

Voluntary celibacy is a perversion.

#11 | Posted by Johnson

Okay... I'll bite.

Definition:

Main Entry:

1: the action of perverting : the condition of being perverted2: a perverted form ; especially : an aberrant sexual practice or interest especially when habitual

So how can the absence of a sexual practice, and, as defined, an aberrant sexual practice, be considered a perversion? If one does not even participate, how can one term it anything at all?

You be one twisted up dude, dude.

Glad I'm a Christian with a whole book of the Bible dedicated to the (descriptive) joys of married sex!

"The proper use of functioning sex organs is fornication (and activities precedent - the process of seduction, whatever that might be in context). Indulgence seems to produce a tranquility and quiet appreciation of life, making man a more gregarious and social creature, less committed to strife." - Johnson

Johnson believes this, but does not seem to support the indulgence of functioning sex organs other than between married men and women. Strange.

Or is he referring to the Cockney slang, i.e.

"...making man a more gregarious and social creature, less committed to 'Trouble and Strife - Wife' " ?

Johnson believes this, but does not seem to support the indulgence of functioning sex organs other than between married men and women. Strange.

That is because Pecker-Johnson is a Fundo who can only get an erection if there is a hole in the sheets.

Piece of shit Dalia-Turnip... he wouldn't know a shag if it bit him on the arse.

Want to know about sex, you ask me. I come from the land of the Kama-Sutra (yes, it as much Pakistani as it is Indian) which we wrote to make Americans feel stupid and inadequate.

All right, since you say I should ask you, Tosser, let me ask:

Why bother with a mechanism used to procreate when one hs no desire to procreate, and ends up being a waste of time and energy because of that fact?

And, uh, I doubt the KS was written to make Americans feel stupid, as it existed just a little before the States did, if I remember correctly.

Why bother with a mechanism used to procreate when one hs no desire to procreate

You might have no desire but maybe the lass does.

Women go a bit bonkers when it comes to their biological clock.

And if you don't have kids, who will flip burgers and pump gas for the next generation?

And, uh, I doubt the KS was written to make Americans feel stupid, as it existed just a little before the States did, if I remember correctly.

OK, maybe not... but we sure use it NOW to make you feel stupid. LOL

Imagine Abe Lincoln reading about sex. Impossible!

Yet, we could always read about sex without thinking it naughty.

Sorry it took so long for me to get back to this, figured Tosser deserved a response.
"You might have no desire but maybe the lass does."
Not my problem.

"Women go a bit bonkers when it comes to their biological clock."
I've seen it happen. Incredibly amusing. Again, not my problem.

"And if you don't have kids, who will flip burgers and pump gas for the next generation?"
Absolutely not my problem. Besides, they're popping out left and right from everybody else, why add to it?

And there was another thing, talking of the Kama Sutra. I decided to pick up a copy back in 2004 and read through it; compatriots of mine suggested it as a possible "solution" to my lack of drive. I read through it and said "meh".

LetUsReason,

There's a future in Buddhism for you...

Sex done right is wonderful.
Sex done wrong can be anywhere from pretty darn good to miserable, with horrible after-effects.