these civil rights violations have just got to stop.

How naive.

John McToast

How naive.

said with tongue firmly in cheek,hope it landed on his f---ing head.

It's heartwarming to see someone performing such dedicated volunteer work. He will be rewarded in his next life.

Yay--and it only cost 3 million.

Yay--and it only cost 3 million.

That's only two million more than the operation that changed you from Buffalo Barbara.

kill them all and let god sort them out.

kill them all and let god sort them out.
#7 | Posted by GenSherman at 2008-11-22 09:11 PM

How ironic. Another job America exports. Counting and sorting.

Let me get this straight...
We're now killing people we suspect are linked to terrorists?
How fucked in the head are you people?
I suspect you guys are idiots.
Maybe I should have all of you lobotomized for the safety of the public?

Rashid Rauf 'escaped' from a Pakistani maximum security prison.

And now he's dead with a few of his pals.

You can all guess what really happened. LOL

If one watches the videos made after such drone attacks, one gets the impression the building or house attacked was empty. The dead bodies are placed in there after the attack. And we can then claim whatever.

Perhaps Rauf never 'escaped'? Perhaps, he was killed making an escape? And for the last few months we had his body on ice waiting for the right opportunity to plant the dead fool at the right place.

Doing stuff like this makes the Americans feel important.. "Hey, we're good! We can get a wanted guy with a drone!" LOL

Do keep in mind, these Predator drones depend TOTALLY on targets given to them by Pakistani agents on the ground. Otherwise they have no idea who is hiding in what house. And these same Pakistani agents provide confirmation of who died (which can be anything we make up).

However when a person is named... that "this guy" died... then his body is recovered and given to the Americans, if possible, for DNA analysis.

I suspect, Osama's body is also somewhere on ice. But then I'm a conspiracy buff kinda guy.

OR

We simply got a wanted guy who escaped and now he is dead. Nothing sinister about it.

WASHINGTON, Nov 20: The United States not only has an understanding with Pakistan to attack suspected terrorist targets inside its borders but also shares with the Pakistani military top-secret video feeds from Predator drones that carry out such attacks, says a senior US general.

"We exchange frequencies. We exchange intelligence. We have a Predator feed going down to the one border coordination centre at Torkham Gate that's looked at by the Pakistan Military" said Gen David McKiernan, who heads US and allied forces in Afghanistan, told a Washington think-tank.

Most likely, he was allowed to escape and then watched until he met up with a few more of his pals.

And then they were all taken out together.

Saves on the paperwork.

When Rauf escaped from prison/interrogation, everyone thought at the time, it sounded staged. Probably true.

I suspect, Osama's body is also somewhere on ice. But then I'm a conspiracy buff kinda guy.

Spud thought so too and rather half-expected that OBL's corpse was gonna be the GOP's October suprise that woulda swung more votes John McCain's way.

Because that never occured Spud is forced to rethink OBL.

Spud's two top current theories?

Either OBL's dead and has been buried by his own people in a secret location unknown to both US and Pakistani intelligence or he is alive and living somewhere in the lap of luxury with a new face and laughing his ass off at the rest of the world.

Ever wonder why terrorists don't use unmanned tech like drones or even lower tech counterparts in order to do their dirty work?

Spud half expects that that will be the next evolution in terror.

Not looking forward to it.

Just sayin'.

Yer enemies tactics always end up informing yer own.

Traditionally this has always been the case on this ugly rock we call home.

Don't see that changing any time soon, unfortunately.

Be Well.

When Rauf escaped from prison/interrogation, everyone thought at the time, it sounded staged. Probably true.

~Tosser

Spud thought it was either staged or he was being held by Colonel Klink and Sgt Schultz.

/Sorry, did you ever watch "Hogan's Heroes"?
//American teevee show set in a PoW camp in WWII.
///A comedy, if you can believe it.

Be Well.

It might also be that we accidentally killed Rauf during 'interrogation' (been known to happen.... hangs head in shame...or not) but didn't have the guts to tell the Americans that we made poopoo on the new carpet. So we said he "escaped"... put his body on ice... and then stuffed him into the wreck of a Predator strike.

Everyone happy.

Ever wonder why terrorists don't use unmanned tech like drones or even lower tech counterparts in order to do their dirty work?

Spud half expects that that will be the next evolution in terror.

How do we know they don't? All they have to do is visit a toy shop and buy a remote plane. How hard could it be to put a wireless camera in one of these?

If you search the net, you can see how some folk have done this easily enough.

Hell, Iran basically mounted a camera on something just a little bigger than a toy plane and took pictures of an American carrier in the Gulf. Quite an embarrassment that was for the US navy.

Excellent, it's good to hit something when expending a costly missile.

Greetings Infidels--

And chalk up some points for the good guys as the Predator is killing the bad guys and not costing us any soldier lives--just a couple of million.

Hope they keep it up without destroying the country with the radicals inside the country.

When Rauf escaped from prison/interrogation, everyone thought at the time, it sounded staged. Probably true.
~Tosser

Spud thought it was either staged or he was being held by Colonel Klink and Sgt Schultz.
/Sorry, did you ever watch "Hogan's Heroes"?
//American teevee show set in a PoW camp in WWII.
///A comedy, if you can believe it.
Be Well.
#14 | Posted by dethspud at 2008-11-23 12:18 AM

Hell, Iran basically mounted a camera on something just a little bigger than a toy plane and took pictures of an American carrier in the Gulf. Quite an embarrassment that was for the US navy.

~Tosser.

It begins.

Oddly enuff that one managed to escape the eagel eyed glare of the American MSM/snark>

Crane teamed up with video technician John Carpenter to document his exploits, an association that may very well have led to his murder in a Scottsdale, Arizona motel room in 1978, which remains officially unsolved to this day.

~REddy

Rumpour mill fer years has it that Crana and Carpenter not only made their own home made sex tapes with star struck wives attracted to Crane's celebrity but that those films were very, VERY kinky.

BDSM on the ugly end of the spectrum.

Official theories speculate that Crane wanted out and that Carpenter killed him when he wouldn't back down.

Spud don't buy into that. Crane was a sex addict with no real impetus to stop.

Rumour mill has it that the killer of Crane was really the husband of one of Carpenter and Crane's little cinema verite projects.

Possibly in law enforcement.

Just idle speculation mind you.

Be Well.

Hope they keep it up without destroying the country with the radicals inside the country.

The only danger is to your own troops. If they hit the wrong target, the supply line will be attacked and the route will be shut down (as was threatened again.. today's papers).

There are hundred-truck convoys going into Afghanistan daily. Easily stopped and supplies stolen.

So that this does not happen too often, America has an incentive to play by the rules (giving Pakistan access to Predator feeds.. sharing Predator technology so we can make our own Predators, etc).

Uncle Sam is the dumbest and fattest Santa we got.

Oddly enuff that one managed to escape the eagel eyed glare of the American MSM/snark>

A few grainy pictures taken by6 something that flew a few hundred feet over the flight deck.

American media downplayed it, but the fact was, the Iranians made them look stupid.

See video.

www.shrunklink.com/bhqu

Tehran: A pilotless Iranian reconnaissance plane circled for 25 minutes over a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf before returning safely to its base, a senior Iranian official said Tuesday.

"Our pilotless reconnaissance plane flew over the USS Ronald Reagan in the Persian Gulf unnoticed to the Americans for 25 minutes," the official said, according to Iran's Fars agency.

He did not say when the flight took place, but added that U.S. radars picked up the unmanned aerial vehicle after 25 minutes, and that four USAF fighters and two helicopters were scrambled to intercept it. However, the Iranian plane had already crossed the border back into Iran and landed at its base.

Americans are like little children... when shown things they don't like, they stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and go "LALALALALALALA".

Doesn't change the reality that a bunch of people can use 'off the shelf' tech to do remarkable stuff these days.

Uncle Sam is the dumbest and fattest Santa we got.

#21 | Posted by Tosser

How many of you assholes do we have to kill to make our point?

Do you think we're giving you full resolution? We're wetting your appetite because you can't get along with your neighbors. We laugh at the Canucks because they kiss our ass, and the Mexicans wipe it. We're not afraid of Pakishitstain. That's why we're over there, and you're not over here.

We're doing more for India because they can eat your lunch, push comes to shove. They can hurt China too. Meanwhile we know that you goat humpers are the real whack jobs and we're training an Army so we're ready for the likes of you.

But in a few years we'll be using even less gas and oil while you idiots embrace Allah and kill off your customers in Europe.

So I don't see much reason to do anything but set you up for some outdated technology. We might even make you pay for it, though if you keep killing your neighbors we might just give it away.

I'll be so happy when the Pakis are glowing pieces of wog shit.

Do you think we're giving you full resolution?

Yes. Full resolution. Full transfer of technology.

Sorry if that bothers you.

Stick your fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALALALA".

That's why we're over there, and you're not over here.

Hey, you are everywhere but still can't do the job.

You went to Afghanistan to catch a certain Osama bin Ladin... and still haven't. LOL.

The very definition of "stupid".

outdated technology.

When it becomes outdated, you will simply give us more. It has been that way for the last 40 years.

They can hurt China too.

India can hurt China???

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Idiot.

I'll be so happy when the Pakis are glowing pieces of wog shit.

Right. Sure.

Meanwhile, do what you do best...."LALALALALALALALALALA"

Potato... notice how these guys are reacting to the Iranian video? LOL

With this attitude, no wonder aren't getting anyplace.

Only an idiot laughs about war. We're forming an alliance just south of you, and it's brains that wins out. China doesn't want a war with India, and the Aussies wouldn't look too favorably on a naval war.

So it's status quo.

You're status extinctus.

Matter of time.

Meanwhile keep boasting of those dollars we're deflating. We don't like it but then we're not squatting above a hole in the floor either.

Finally, why can't you make your own stuff? Probably because your culture is half beggars and half thieves. Praise Allah dumbfuck. We'll send you some more toys.

Only an idiot laughs about war.

No, I am laughing at your naive assumptions.

You know, I remember you. You are the same prize-idiot who claimed to me that the US made Pakistan independent from India!!! My God! LOL

Finally, why can't you make your own stuff?

But we do! In fact the US border guards use Pakistani drones to catch all them evil Mexicans.

But I guess you are too stupid to Google up our weapon systems? LOL

LALALALALALALALALALA!!!

good living in Pakistan

Iranians fly over American carriers. Pakistan made tanks, stealth submarines, fighter jets, missiles... from shoulder launched to ballistic to cruise, airlaunched BVR weapons, etc etc.

But when you have fat stupid Uncle who can be persuaded to give you more for free... GREAT! Go for it!

Meanwhile Americans stick their fingers in their ears and go "LALALALALALALALALA".

The world is not the way it is printed up in your Jew York Times. LALALALALALALALALALA

good living in Pakistan

Good living in the US.

Pakistani drone used by America to catch Chihuahuas.

It's funny... America uses Pakistani drones to catch Mexicans and Pakistan uses American drones to catch Arabs and Afghans.

LOL.

LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!
!

try this one

That looks like India, Gujarat riots.

LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

Why does America hate Mexico? LOL

Again, watch the Iranian video of American dumbfuck carrier. LOL

www.shrunklink.com/bhqu

Potato... notice how these guys are reacting to the Iranian video? LOL

You mean the whole "I'll be so happy when the Pakis are glowing pieces of wog shit." thing?

The bravado and bluster backed up by little to no real understanding of anything that happens outside their borders and damn little within it, matched only by a studied incuriousness that equates to a form of prideful ignorance?

That typa thing?

Umm, yeah, Spud kinda noticed.

Spud's been "talking to American" fer 4 years here and is oh so used to it by now.

In all fairness that's only the trolls, there are also thoughtful, insightful, well informed and conerned individuals as well.

I'ts a numbers game really, like much of life.

You know, I remember you. You are the same prize-idiot who claimed to me that the US made Pakistan independent from India!!! My God! LOL

See you met Oz.

Guess Spud doesn't hafta tell which category he belongs in, eh?

Be Well.

There is SO MUCH that Americans don't know about the world. They have no idea of the massive gains the world has made in the concepts like 'asymmetric warfare'.

They still think like they are fighting in Vietnam! LOL

I find it amazing these people can even walk in a straight line.

That typa thing?

Yeah. The moment I sent that link to that Iranian video, I KNEW the cockroaches would go into abusive-language/denial mode.

Maybe they are paid shills? Nawww.... Too stupid to earn the 2 cents per word a shill gets these days.

Spud's been "talking to American" fer 4 years here and is oh so used to it by now.

Back in the 50's, my aunt married a Canadian. So I have Canadian cousins (they are not Pakistani-Canadian dual... only Canadian). They recently came for a visit here and I asked how it was with their southern neighbors. They wouldn't say much, but I could tell, they think the US is one big headache.

In all fairness that's only the trolls, there are also thoughtful, insightful, well informed and conerned individuals as well.

Let's hope you are right. Otherwise people like that tend to get squished under a bus trying to figure out how to cross the street.

See you met Oz.

Oh yeah. I remember him from some time ago.

I think he has gone senile.

Yeah. The moment I sent that link to that Iranian video, I KNEW the cockroaches would go into abusive-language/denial mode.

Well, there sommat to be sed fer predictability.

Maybe they are paid shills? Nawww.... Too stupid to earn the 2 cents per word a shill gets these days.

2cents? That would be over-charging.

As Noel Coward used to sing...

"Here's a penny for yer thoughts... incidentally you can keep the change"

Spud hums that one to himself some days in blogworld.

Back in the 50's, my aunt married a Canadian. So I have Canadian cousins (they are not Pakistani-Canadian dual... only Canadian). They recently came for a visit here and I asked how it was with their southern neighbors. They wouldn't say much, but I could tell, they think the US is one big headache

Wot part of Canada do they hail from?

BC perhaps?

We got a huge Ex-Pat Pakistani population here in BC.

Let's hope you are right. Otherwise people like that tend to get squished under a bus trying to figure out how to cross the street.

No one sheds tears fer trolls who walk into buses unless they happen to be the folks who hafta clean those buses later.

I think he has gone senile.

Either that or his Bitterness dial got turned up to 11 and then the dial fell off.

Be Well.

Wot part of Canada do they hail from?

Toronto.

Potato... I like talking to you.

I can easily talk to my Canadian cousins. I can easily talk to my Australian cousin. I can easily talk to my white anglo-saxon Englishman "uncle" and "cousins" who come from the bastard line of the family (grand-uncle made a booboo in UK long long ago). I would love to talk to the huge part of the family that vanished in Norway in the 60s because they forgot how to speak Urdu and English and lost touch.

My American cousins, I can't talk to straight. I have to talk in circles. That is how their mind works these days.

Potato... I like talking to you.

~Tosser.

Same here, Old bean!

I can easily talk to my Canadian cousins. I can easily talk to my Australian cousin. I can easily talk to my white anglo-saxon Englishman "uncle" and "cousins" who come from the bastard line of the family (grand-uncle made a booboo in UK long long ago). I would love to talk to the huge part of the family that vanished in Norway in the 60s because they forgot how to speak Urdu and English and lost touch.

My American cousins, I can't talk to straight. I have to talk in circles. That is how their mind works these days

Now wot you mean.

Spud's got family in the UK and Oz and the US as well.

Spud can talk too the Limeys and the Roo Doers
much more openly and in greater detail than their US counterparts.

A lot of this Spud subscribes to the fact that most of Spud's US relatives are loaded and beyond a certain pay grade there's a societal pressure to become an Rtard in the US. Part of that process seems to dumb one down or reduce their conversational skills to talking points that are based in anything but reality.

After a few shouting matches Spud largely gave up on enlightening me American cuzzins or indeed having much to do wif 'em at all.

Spud's negative perception of the dumberd down American wasn't much altered until Spud came to blogworld and found that not all Americans are like that.

The other fact of the matter is that Spud is a huge fan of American culture. American teevee shows and movies and bands and books and comics and comedians are a part of me very soul by this point andn thus to hate America is impossible because inm order to do so Spud would hafta hate himself and Spud's really too nice of a bloke fer that self loathing rubbish.

Besides thinking of the globes races and cultures in a superior/inferior context is self defeating.

End of day there's only one race that counts and that's the human race.

Life's too short to hate anything less than hate itself.

Yer alright Tosser, ole chum.

Be Well.

I used to play cowboys and injuns with one of my cousins all the time, shooting paper 'pellets' with rubber bands.

Then he got married to a Texan lady and moved there.

Now I detect a snide tone in his conversations.... he always wanted to be a cowboy, and now he is one for real.. whoopie... what's with the tone buddy?

He took me on a tour of his house (his wife's parent's house) using internet video and I can see my home is twice the size of the one he is living in there. So what's with the tone?

He used to sell... what are they called?... NASCAR pit helmets?... on the internet plus other clothing stuff (he used to be an international banker... imagine that). When his webpage went kaput I asked him what you doing now dude?

Nothin... jest load my guns and go with my brother-in-laws and shoot beer cans and make big plans until the sun goes down.

And what of the big plans? Oh... we fergit them the next day and start over.

Yep.

The brightest people turn dumb over there. It's the fluoride in the water. Must be.

Another American cousin has turned into a blithering idiot on YouTube.

He also lost all his hair.

Fluoride.

It's the fluoride in the water. Must be.

Makes fer strong teeth and weak brains.

^_^

Be Well.

/Alright, that's enuff blogging fer one day.
//Calgary Stampeders won the Grey Cup!!
///Woo Hoo! The West is the best.

Spud: Wot part of Canada do they hail from?

Tosser: Toronto.

Dang it!

Van City folk and folk from the T Dot is hate each other!!!

Not really, more of an intense rivalry than anything else.

Actually all of Canada likes picking on TO.

They even made a movie about it.

"Let's all Hate Toronto!"

"Let me get this straight...
We're now killing people we suspect are linked to terrorists?"

Yes. Its a war. They aren't going to come in for questioning. They aren't going to wear uniforms. They use civilians as human shields. We are left to do our best in identifying the bad guys while minimizing unnecessary deaths. If they wanted to play by the "rules of warfare" it would easier to limit the killing to the correct people. Neither they nor their "civilian" protectors want to do so.

"How fucked in the head are you people?
I suspect you guys are idiots.
Maybe I should have all of you lobotomized for the safety of the public?"

Realistically, we are faced with two alternatives: 1) Do our best to try and combat these people knowing full well it will be messy. 2) Allow them to murder us with impunity.

You may think the first option is crazy. I think anyone who supports the 2nd optionis a fucking stupid asshole who values his pretentiousness more than the lives of his friends, families, neighbors and countrymen. Americans should sit around waiting to be murdered just because certain pretentious assholes want to claim the mythic "moral high ground". Fuck off.

#52 | Posted by Sully at 2008-11-24 03:00 PM

Hands down winner of Righto's coveted 'Moment of Clarity' (TM) award for the day, dare I say for the week.

Well done!

Sully,

It is mind-boggling to me that the US gets so severely criticized for collateral damage when it's the tactics of her opposition who create the guessing game in the first place.

the US gets so severely criticized

You are talking of the Govt of Pakistan criticizing the US?

Oh, that's all an act.

Who said it cost 3 million to fire a missle from a Predator? I'd say the missile probably cost less then 100K

I'd say the missile probably cost less then 100K

FINALLY someone who knows what he's talking about...

Yes, they cost $68,000 each.

"FINALLY someone who knows what he's talking about...
Yes, they cost $68,000 each."

Don't forget to add in the $7.50/hour rate the guy firing them gets...

Don't forget to add in the $7.50/hour rate the guy firing them gets...

Compared to all that, a bullet costs 10 Rupees. LOL

What a waste. And then they ask why they are having financial shits.

Who said it cost 3 million to fire a missle from a Predator? I'd say the missile probably cost less then 100K

#56 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2008-11-24 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag

How much did the Predator cost? 3.2 million