A STRAY DOG WOULD BE MORE LOYAL...

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Wall Street, AIPAC, otherwise identified by Eisenhower as the Militay Industrial Complex. The President that built most of our infrastructure and curtailed deficit spending. Eisenhower warned us not to let these greedfuckers take over our Government.

Wall Street bought Obama on the first day of his campaign. Rolling over for the bailout is the first payback. We've heard him kowtow to AIPAC in a most disgusting manner. Keeping Leiberman is one aspect of that.

The failures of statism. When will people learn?

If it were any other committe besides homeland security it would be less of an issue. But when the basis for your disagreement with your party is homeland security, and its the most important issue of the day, then allowing him to remain chair of the committe is at best, problematic.

This actually gives me some hope that the President elect will be true to his word with respect to trying to move away from partisan politics. Senator Lieberman is a smart and dedicated public servant who has consistently put the country at the top of his priority list. It is one of the reasons I voted for him to be VP in 2000 instead of the self-appointed puppet master. It is unfortunate that the "true believers" of both parties are unable to recognize that intelligent politicians that actually assess each issue individually are far to rare and will be desperately needed if we are to get this country back to where it needs to be. We have plenty of party hacks that vote the party line with out thinking about whether it is correct or not.

Lieberman actually puts Israel and AIPAC on his priority list but not before himself.

He doesn't care about America.

It really wouldn't be a good idea to force Joe to cross the aisle. Take away a subcommittee and let him focus on Holeland Defense and mending fences. The DEM Party has a big tent.

Correction:

It really wouldn't be a good idea to force Joe to cross the aisle. Take away a subcommittee and let him focus on HOMEland Defense and mending fences. The DEM Party has a big tent.

This is so wrong.Lieberman deserves what he gave the Dems: a kick in the a**.

so does this mean that all is forgiven??

of course not
what it means is that the dems dont want him to become a republican.......JUST like republicans dont want hagle or the woman senator to change because of numbers...seems pretty simple enough

of course if he stays, we will get the old feel good shit about coming together in bipartisanship and its all
ABOUT THE NUMBERS and getting to the magic number.....60

It really wouldn't be a good idea to force Joe to cross the aisle. Take away a subcommittee and let him focus on HOMEland Defense and mending fences. The DEM Party has a big tent

~TownandCountry

Why the fuck is there still a DHS anyways?

BushCo obviously conflated the real dangers of global terrorism in order to fearmonger his way into Iraq. The so-called war on terrorism (TM) is merely a poor substitute for America's traditional excuse to do wotever the fuck it wants in the world ie. The War on Communism (TM). Bottom line, DHS isn't really neccessary and is unproductive as hell.

Here's Spud's idear.

Let Joe Loserman hold onto his DHS commitee chair but defund and de-staff the structure until it's down to only Joe in a broom closet full of duct tape.

Cos that would be fitting and funny.

But yeah, in all seriousness No-mentum Joe will prolly continue to play AIPAC kingmaker in the Senate even if the Dems do pick up Georgia, Alaska and Minnesotta.

Wot the guy really deserves, however, is a massive cockpunch fer all his Zell Miller-like shenanigans on the McLame campaign trail of tears.

Be Well.

/And yes Spud realises that until America has Bin Laden's skull to gnaw upon the DHS prolly aint going nowhere.
//Which is prolly why sed skull hasn't been produced to date, btw.

"...and its all ABOUT THE NUMBERS and getting to the magic number.....60."

#10 | Posted by bushlovertwo

I doubt they could count on him to help override a fillibuster. I doubt they could count on alot of dem's for that.

yeah maybe not

but on some issues it probably would matter

supreme court?????

First he wants Hil for SoS, now he wants SloJoe to keep his chairmanship.

When are real Libs going to band together and impeach this guy?

Dems in power are such pussies.

Watch Pelosi and Reid get a sweet deal.

My prediction about Lieberman was correct then. I didn't think he would lose his chairmanship

"When are real Libs going to band together and impeach this guy?"

He has to assume office first. Give them time, say Jan. 21, 2009.

Do the Dems have a death wish or what?

Lieberman spent the entire Presidential campaign with his nose firmly embedded in
McCain's butt and also gave a speech at the GOP convention.

Hello? Dems? Wake up, fools.

I disagree about the pussy part

I think that during the last two years they purposeedly did nothing so as to not endanger the election of 08...........and if you dont think they wouldnt do that or would be too concerned about thier important jobs to do that, then you havent seen much politics.

This is all a matter of perspective. If you live in the US, it ain't a big deal. If you live in Israel, it's a huge deal. They're very livelyhood depends on it.

"When are real Libs going to band together and impeach this guy?"

A lotta people will be surprised when Obama turns out to be no "real" flaming librul at all, but a cautious middle of the roader. Hey, I've been posting that from Day One. herm

Like I said last time, Both Reid and Pelosi need Joe still. They weren't going to kick Joe in the ass knowing they'd have to kiss his ass and make it better to get what they want down the line.

Lonnie

Obama and the Dems are more concerned with achieving a filibuster proof majority more than punishing Lieberman. I think it's smart politics.

Hate to say I told you so (numerous times) but no way the Dems would do anything to force Joe to go to the other side:

LOL-

Some things never "Change".

I don't think I have ever agreed with Herm and Danni in consecutive posts, but sometimes lightning strikes twice.

Congrats, Herm and Danni, you share today's Moment of Clarity (tm) Award!

Thanks for playing, and keep up the good work!

This country needs to be governed from the center. When the extreme left and right wings of the two parties are allowed to govern that's when things start to turn ugly. That's why the Republicans failed so miserably over the last 8 years. They allowed the extreme, right-wing, trickle-down, imperialists to drive this country into a huge ditch.

Obama will receive a lot of flack from his own party, just like Clinton did, for not being "liberal" enough. I think his biggest challenge will come from trying to keep Pelosi and Reid from spending the country into economic oblivion.

"I don't think I have ever agreed with Herm and Danni in consecutive posts...Congrats, Herm and Danni, you share today's Moment of Clarity (tm) Award!"

Obviously I've done something wrong and will immediately reconsider my views.

As for "This country needs to be governed from the center," I respectfully take exception, quoting that latter-day Will Rogers, Jim Hightower, who said:

"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos." Keeping to the left side merely means giving priority to what's best for the most people. herm

This actually gives me some hope that the President elect will be true to his word with respect to trying to move away from partisan politics

How is it partisan politicans when you are disciplining one of your own?

DC is the way it is for a reason. Every politician there is looking to score points against their rival (real and imagined); to distinguish themselves from the pretenders. Republicans are not going to regain power by being like Democrats. They must be different and being different in a political context means being in "opposition to".

The only reason people were tired of partisan politics was because nothing of any consequence was getting done. With the kind of numerical advantage that the Dems now have, grid lock is much less likely and the public's concern about partisan politics will vaporize.

Keeping to the left side merely means giving priority to what's best for the most people

Herm,

I generally agree with that statement but, I think you have to avoid the extremes on the left just as much as you avoid the extremes on the right. The extremes on the left are out-of-control welfare spending. I believe very strongly in providing a safety net of programs to help lower/middle class citizens who are struggling. But, the programs should be designed as a springboard into a middle class existence without incentivising (word?)a life dependent on govenrment handouts.

Lieberman has fallen out with the Dems over foreign policy but goes along with them on domestic issues.
Once Obama shows him where he was wrong, Joe Lieberman will, once again, be a good Democrat.

I'm disappointed that Sen. Lieberman has been rewarded in spite of his disloyalty, but I suspect it's the right move politically for President-elect Obama and the new Democratic Congress.

They should have waited for the outcome of the 3 remaining Senate races. If Lieberman is #60 than yes keep him. If he's #59 or 58 allow him to manage a McDonalds at a I95 reststop in Connecticut. Will the Dems be taking Zel Miller back too? Leecherman treated Obama like he was a Shabbes Goy.

They took a secret vote--which is more than what the Dems would allow under card check.

They wouldn't disown Joe than they would their own grandmother.

Until he does something else. Then under the bus he will go.

Liberman should have had to "earn back" the right to be a committee chairman. If he caucused with the Republicans, he would forfeit his right to regain this chairmanship.

Given how blue the northeast has become, it is unlikely that Lieberman would have caucused with the Republicans. The voters of CT would turn on him for sure.

Another empty threat courtesy of Pelosi and Reid.

Obama promised to come to washington and work with Republicans. Booting Lieberman into the Republican camp isn't a good way to get started with bridging differences. Time to stop thinking US vs Them until the next election.

Well we can be assured nobody by the name Boyd Coddington voted on this measure. If He had of He would have axed Joe Lieberman in a heartbeat. This is rotten to the very core.

Larry

I have no used for Lieberman or any of the Dems who voted to support him. Lieberman is a low-life.

After hearing that Obama was supporting him to remain without tacitly saying so my thought was this: Any time that the new president needs a vote in the Senate he's just gonna reach out to Lieberman and say, "hey Joe, remember when I said you were gonna be my bitch?"

And that would make this a very smart move.

Like Bill Maher said yesterday, something like he's stopped criticizing Obama- whenever he did during the campaign, Obama would prove him wrong time after time.

Not that aanybody is going to be right all the time. He's just a smart guy who seems to be intimate with the laws of power. I'm anxious to see where it all goes.

LIEBERMAN ROCKS he is my Senator and he has BIG BAD BALLS - and he will fuck you dems hard in the ass and unload his mighty war-hawk demon seed into your rectums for the way he was treated by you scum.

HA HA HA HA HA one vote farther from 60.
JOE IS TRUE to his MORALS ON VOTES - YOU QUEERS!

he will never vote with your side AGAIN!!!

This is all developing PERFECTLY according to my PLAN!

#41 | Posted by Fredo_C

Blotto again.

#41 | Posted by Fredo_C

Blotto again.

#42 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Ah.... the loyal fan base.

I do this for YOU, man!

"This is all developing PERFECTLY according to my PLAN!"

Sounds familiar:

On a slightly more serious note:

Retards like R58 naturally assume Senator Joe, my Senator, is devoid of values and backbone and fortitude; like R58 himself is.

Look at the track record: Senator Joe, my Senator, is his own man and when the Dems need fucking, a-fucking Joe will go. He's gonna like it in Barry's ass. he's gonna go balls-deep.

think we know well that "PLAN" worked out.

LOL!

Hans

#44 | Posted by Hans

FF for Hans! way to go, man!

Fredo is one of those many rightards that has blinded himself from reality.

When Santino is finished swallowing Hansel's load, perhaps he would like to tell me if Joe Leiberman, my Senator, has ever bowed down to the lib establishment, like all of you other fucktards are.

No one called attention to the Jew issue here. They are not for America or anything but themselves.

Brilliant Move!

Joe Loserman can always be shit-canned at a later date if necessary. I hope the dems hold it over his head on each and every vote.

Brilliant Move!

Joe Loserman can always be shit-canned at a later date if necessary. I hope the dems hold it over his head on each and every vote.

#49 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Why do I get the impression it would have also been a "brillant move" if they would have kicked him to the curb in your world?

They need him. Dems didn't "yield" to anyone. They'll be nice to him until a better chance comes around. Then they'll repudiate their links to him when the win is clear. I can't see how a man like Hans can study politics without becoming bored out of his skull. I primarily do international crap, but the domestic stuff bores me to death, even on drudge. Soldier on, my friend Hans.

"Do the Dems have a death wish or what?...Lieberman spent the entire Presidential campaign with his nose firmly embedded in McCain's butt and also gave a speech at the GOP convention...Hello? Dems? Wake up, fools..."

Chris, Chris, Chris...

And here I was thinking that you were smarter than this. Look at the damage Lieberman tried to do during the campaign. Do you honestly think kicking him in the balls and giving him a grievance is the way to get him under control? He'd try going over the fence to the Rethugs completely. This way, the Talking Turtle owes his sorry ass to Obama, and I have a feeling coming events are going to show that our new Prez always collects. If Lieberman is stupid enough to think he's won anything here, he's dumber than I figured, and I have long thought that the Talking Turtle makes Duyba look kinda savvy.

the Talking Turtle

LOL!

Actually No-mentum Joe always kinda reminded Spud of...

Why do I get the impression it would have also been a "brillant move" if they would have kicked him to the curb in your world?

#50 | Posted by wisgod at 2008-11-18 09:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

...Because you're wrong.

It should have ended for Leecherman this way: Leave the gun, take the canoli.

As for "This country needs to be governed from the center," I respectfully take exception, quoting that latter-day Will Rogers, Jim Hightower, who said:

"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos." Keeping to the left side merely means giving priority to what's best for the most people. herm

#27 | Posted by herm

Going to the left too far puts you in the ditch though Herm!