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Record number of U.S. students study abroad, in diverse locations

Guess they're visiting their future property. How do you say landlord in mandarin?

randrold.

How do you say landlord in mandarin?

#2 | Posted by panchovilla at 2008-11-17 11:37 AM | Reply

You literally don't have to, you just ask for a number 7.

Whatever you do-do not ask for a #7....

It includes a donkey, three midgets and a cherry bomb stuck up your ass......

Reminds me of a song Bert Williams used to sing:
"Come after breakfast, bring along your lunch and leave before suppertime".

Why do you even try?

Go put some air in a tire and wipe off my windshield grease monkey.

A few labs at my school are almost entirely Chinese, they cluster among themselves, rarely communicate with their American peers unless they have to due to language difficulties.

Not the best environment for an academic exchange of ideas and god help the undergrads they teach.

That said, a minority are quite proficient in their language skills and do interact.

Wait... how is this news?

This has been going on for as long as I've... well.. been old enough to be able to think.

Seriously, welcome to the 1980's. Scary place, huh? Eesh.

"Guess they're visiting their future property."

More likely their future home. The Chinese people, especially educated ones, are less than thrilled with living under a brutal, anachronistic government even if it is fashionable in some Western circles to pretend otherwise.

randrold.

#3 | Posted by LetUsPrey

nice!

"Guess they're visiting their future property. How do you say landlord in mandarin?"

In the 80's this sentence would have ended with "Japanese?". They just recently reentered a depression after getting out of one that lasted over a decade.

The reason students come here is because we have the best universities in the world. Duh.

More likely their future home. The Chinese people, especially educated ones, are less than thrilled with living under a brutal, anachronistic government even if it is fashionable in some Western circles to pretend otherwise.

#11 | Posted by Sully at 2008-11-17 12:29 PM |

True. Though, oddly enough, a chinese couple that bought a small grocery store in my old neighborhood was quite adamant in saying that the communist approach was the only way to yank china out of the stone age as quickly as they are doing now, that a more democratic approach would stunt development.

That being said, they don't live there anymore and chose to come to montreal instead. The guy's an engineer, his wife a university professor in finance or economy. The difficulty, in canada at least, is that their degrees are not recognized unless some equivalency tests are passed, or some courses redone. If, by contrast, a foreigner gets a diploma here, they can work here or back home in their country of origin. I imagine the situation in the u.s. is the same?

"I imagine the situation in the u.s. is the same?"

Panco - I believe so. I'm not really sure what the rules are but we always hear anecdotes about people who were doctors or engineers in other countries who come here and have to drive a cab until they can get their certifications straightened out.

Globalism, trickle down economics, out sourcing, off shoring, deregulation have been very successful at shrinking the American middle class. The cost of an American higher education is beyond the reach of most American families but the beneficiaries of all of the aforementioned policies can afford to send their children here.

Why do Republicans hate Americans?

Lawyers cannot practice in different U.S. states so far as I know so I wouldn't be surprised if the same system exists for medical doctors or engineers.

Academic careers should be all right though, that is more reputation and output based.

Why do Republicans hate Americans?

Posted by FedUpWithPols

Who is letting these students in? University Presidents and tenured faculty are very conservative I hear.

:-(

Who is letting these students in? University Presidents and tenured faculty are very conservative I hear.

This is not my lament. These presidents are just trying to put butts in the seats. I would prefer that those butts be American but to many American families are being priced out of higher education due to the ruinous economic policies that began with Reagan.

I would prefer that those butts be American but to many American families are being priced out of higher education due to the ruinous economic policies that began with Reagan.

Reagan made those poor presidents raise tuition on everyone and force them to bring in international students?

Can you offer something other than your rant to substantiate that "reaganomics" made college expensive?

Can you offer something other than your rant to substantiate that "reaganomics" made college expensive?

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that reaganomics made college more expensive. My statement was that policies popularized by Reagan led to more and more American families being squeezed out of being able to afford a higher education.

The economy is in the toilet and more and more the blame is being attributed to deregulation, globalisation, etc.; policies that are still being championed by Republicans. Democrats have a lot to answer for as well. At least with them, they are beginning to admit their mistakes and hopefully, with an Obama admin, correct them.

Panco - I believe so. I'm not really sure what the rules are but we always hear anecdotes about people who were doctors or engineers in other countries who come here and have to drive a cab until they can get their certifications straightened out.

#15 | Posted by Sully at 2008-11-17 01:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, I've met seven of those people, who've had that "problem" for years.

And the thing is, if they could took 3 months worth of class and pass a few exams, the "degrees" would count here. In every case, all 7 of them, the issue is that they are unable to pass these tests.

While one can argue that I might have magically met 7 exceptions to the rule, I'm guessing that's not the case. I'm willing to speculate that the real reason this is so prevalent is because a lot of overseas universities are just diploma factories, and don't actually teach the subject matter anywhere near as well as American universities.

The fact that I, who is ONLY qualified as an EMT (if I hadn't let my cert expire) had to help one of said "Doctors" with his mother's IV meds and explain to him how one properly CLEANS AND DRESSES A FUCKING WOUND sort of reiterates to me that this may, in fact, be the case.

Our primary schools may suck ass compared to the rest of the world, but apparently our postgraduate types kick ass, and have for a very long time.

Don't put words in my mouth.

no problem.

Why do Republicans hate Americans?

#16 | Posted by FedUpWithPols

My statement was that policies popularized by Reagan led to more and more American families being squeezed out of being able to afford a higher education.

I get it Fedupdanniwithpolsdanni.

I fear the new administration's policies will just be hair of the dog.

.. I just noticed I said "If they could took" in my post. Can you tell I got my edumacation in American public schools?

房东Fan-dong (landlord of apartment)

Nice! Then how 'bout you nice folks fork over some of those dollar reserves you're hoarding to help shore up our schools that you're sending your kids to? Maybe my supercomputing center can get some funding while you're at it?

You walk into the USC School of Dentistry in Los Angeles and it's seems like 90% Asian dental students -- mostly all Chinese. It costs $10,000 just for a dental kit (drills bits, scrapers, everything most dentists use in their practice) each student is required to own as part of the dental course requirement. And that's not counting the cost of books or tuition.

The Chinese seem to have beau coup bucks to spend on educating their kids, not to mention the grants and scholarships they get. Plus the cost of room and board at USC is another few thousand dollars a year. Don't know where they get all the money to afford it.

megatrends outlines an Oligarcies plan to shift manufacturing offshore, use our schools to plant surrogates around the world spreading goodwill and Chicago School Economic Theory, maintain hedgemony through military force and exclusive trade with dollars.

when you surrender power to obviously inferior peoples, do what every Imperialist Country did before they abandon their colony, rob them blind. Paulson is doing a bangup job of it, but it is sad how this diminishes blaming Obama and the Democrats for the whole debacle.

Don't know where they get all the money to afford it.

No tickee no washee....

I work as an editor in Hong Kong and the US government commissioned us to produce a video to recruit Chinese students to study in the US. The Universities were mostly Ivy League and prestigious ones.

Some of the points we had to convey.

1. The students will not feel like outsiders.

2. They can make friends (foreign and domestic)

3. They don't have to give up their identity

4. Education is key

5. Food and living conditions are of high quality

Basically we had to make sure US colleges were the best schools in the world to offer to Mainland Chinese.

6. You're guaranteed at least a TA position in an Organic Chem lab class at any institution of your choosing.

"Ah, cowboy! You stop righting Rucky Stlike with Bunsen Burner NOW!"

"You fail class!"

Sorta on topic, there's a pretty cool documentary out on some shit leftist public television show (P.O.V.?) about children of farm villages being slowly flooded by the 3 gorges dam project seeking work on cruise boats on the Yangtze.

It's really well done.

Those little oriental fuckers are tough, smart, hard working, and running out of resources.

Comparatively, your typical Obama voter faces a "personal crisis" when his Tivo fails to record The Jon Stewart Show---thereby being deprived of the intellectual fodder provided by yet another new and exciting round of funny and/or ironic facial gestures in response to Dick Cheney sound bytes.

What an exciting century this will be!

Chinese chicks are HOT, especially the ones with money!

btw, their 'kung-pao" goes the other way, not like American girls.