Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, November 14, 2008

MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the leaker of an embarrassing story about Sarah Palin. The story was faked by filmmakers Eitan Gorlin and Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

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Lemme try to remember all the libtard dumbassess who fell for the story. CBOB, Danforth, Moneywar, Danni, Jsprague, Apocalypto. Not to mention the usual douchebag suspects over at MSNBC.

"I saw it on the internet, so it must be true!!!"
-- Buffalo Bob, along with most of the DR left

"Lemme try to remember all the libtard dumbassess who fell for the story."

Lemme try to remember who reported it as a news story....

FOX?!?

I guess you're right, RiR...

How stupid were we, believing something FOX reported?

Yeah, that's it. She needs more experience. You know, like 7th grade geography.

#87 | Posted by RastaCyborg

"You're stupid. You'll believe anything you see or hear on the internet."

And it seems you'll deny anything you see or hear on the internet.

You think the reporter or aides are making this shit up for fun? I don't know what would be worse, this is actually true or the different factions in the campaign hated each other so much they'd be willing to make it up.

Either way, it seems we dodged a bullet.

#137 | Posted by jpw

You're stupid. You'll believe anything you see or hear on the internet.

#135 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-11-07 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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I believe it. When I look into Sarah Palin's eyes I see a welcome vacancy sign flashing bright neon.

Larry

#139 | Posted by LarryMohr

Sarah Palin didn't know that Africa is a continent and didn't know which countries belong to NAFTA, according to FOX NEWS' Carl Cameron,

#149 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

She may have been able to fool the Wasilla Hillbillies into thinking she was qualified to be VP but as we see now, she is incredibly ignorant, arrogant and corrupt.

Thank god she has been tagged and released back into the wild.

#163 | Posted by JimmyWallback

I died. I had to hit the back button and make sure I heard it right.

She still thinks Africa is a country, she just wasn't sure anyone asked her about it being a continent.

#167 | Posted by YAV

Perhaps in your zeal, you failed to notice that this piece says the identification of the SOURCE was incorrect, but does not dispute the story itself.

"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin not the Fox News story itself."

"Africa's a continent? Silly me. I thought it was a vowel!"
- The gubnah

#6 | Posted by cbob

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Attack the messenger. I'm sure he's lying: Palin belongs in Mensa.

#10 | Posted by Danforth


Perhaps in your zeal, you failed to notice that this piece says the identification of the SOURCE was incorrect, but does not dispute the story itself.


"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin not the Fox News story itself."

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-11-13 10:45 PM | Reply


Smoochies. Put THAT in Your Pipe and smoke it RiR bwhahahahahahaha LMAO

Larry

Okay Sanantonio. Go with that.

Nothing's funnier than a libtard who makes fun of someone else's intelligence. Nothing.

Then let's cut to the chase, and the bottom line question, RiR. Do you believe Palin was qualified for the job description as the Vice-President of The United States?

And since I believe I know how you'd honestly answer that question, then why do you believe John McCain did it, and do you agree?

"Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague."
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Umm, right. Because all the emails I get from my colleagues are 100% accurate.

"Okay Sanantonio. Go with that."


Yeah, I do prefer to actually read the article completely. Helps prevent that premature ejaculation problem you seem to be suffering with.

Besides, I didn't make fun of her intelligence, or lack thereof. I simply posted the story as it came from a news source you've trusted in the past.

Then let's cut to the chase, and the bottom line question, RiR. Do you believe Palin was qualified for the job description as the Vice-President of The United States?
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Sure. But since I don't believe John McCain was qualified to be president of the United States, it's irrelevant.

Actually, the bottom line question is, did you believe that the governor of Alaska was unaware that Africa was a continent? That someone whom I heard deliver an outstanding speech on energy policy, and on oil and gas exploration in Nigeria and the Middle East, was ignorant of the fact that Africa is a continent, and not a sovereign nation?

Or, were you taken in by a hoax, just like the douchebags were over at MSNBC, because of something you hoped was true?

PDS !


CNN Distorts Palin Comments From Its OWN Interview With Her

On CNN's Political Ticker Blog on November 11, CNN had this absurd headline:Palin in Obama's administration?
And followed that up with a paragraph that materially misstated what she told their own commentator, Wolf Blitzer.

Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Wednesday she would be honored to help out President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an "unrepentant domestic terrorist."

Yet, the several paragraphs that follow shows that the header and the into paragraph twist what it is she really said.

the link

newsbusters.org

Yeah, I do prefer to actually read the article completely. Helps prevent that premature ejaculation problem you seem to be suffering with.
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Actually I have the opposite problem. That said, the article posted on the DR was about a McCain aide who said that Palin didn't know the countries in NAFTA, and that Africa was a continent. The person who was quoted doesn't exist. But you're going to go on and pretend that . . . Palin doesn't know about Canada and Mexico, and that even though she's one of the leading political figures on energy policy, she's unaware of a big body of land that includes Nigeria, Libya, and Egypt.

Whatever. Spin it any way you want. You were suckered in, and you look stupid.

"... and that even though she's one of the leading political figures on energy policy,"


WHO was suckered in???

Well, I supposed anyone who was in Houston at the NAPE conference, who heard her speak.

You're funny. "She's a Republican, so she must be stupid." Tell you what--when it comes to energy, she makes Barack Obama look like a drooling retard. It's obvious he doesn't know dick about the oil industry. But who cares? All we need are some good tax increases on drillers--that'll help keep prices down!! Yeah!! LOL. What a dumbass.

"Actually, the bottom line question is, did you believe that the governor of Alaska was unaware that Africa was a continent? That someone whom I heard deliver an outstanding speech on energy policy, and on oil and gas exploration in Nigeria and the Middle East, was ignorant of the fact that Africa is a continent, and not a sovereign nation? Or, were you taken in by a hoax, just like the douchebags were over at MSNBC, because of something you hoped was true?"

Well, the bottom line is, I believed what the FOX guy said, partially because I wanted to believe it. Therefore, by your metric, I was a douche, since I should have know never ever to believe what FOX reports.

I also partially believed it because, unlike your "Sure", regarding whether she could be President on a moment's notice, my answer was a resounding "no". Every interview of weight made her look more like an fool. I mean, I know what The Bush Doctrine is; why shouldn't the Vice President? I felt insulted McCain would choose someone merely because she happened to be at the intersection of Dobson and Vagina. That McCain would foist that idiot on us was and is unforgivable. Her answer to Couric alone will (and should) live in infamy. So...somehow I get the feeling you were either joking, or stirring the pot.

I can remember when that thread first came out I challenged the story. I said no one could be that stupid. Of course I was called everything from a partisian hack to right wing rethuglicuntitardian (or whatever the stupid republican mot de jour was) shill.

As I said, no one could be that stupid. I'll bet I nor anyone else who voiced similiar sentiments gets an apology from the left. But that's to be expected.

Bush doesn't even know what the Bush Doctrine is. And since the "job description" of Vice President is to serve as the caretaker of the Naval Observatory, go to state funerals, and cast the deciding vote in the Senate (and, believe me, for the next few years, there won't be any to cast)--yes, she's qualified to be the Vice President. Just like I am. Or you. After all, Al Gore and Dan Quayle and Andrew Johnson have set the bar pretty low for what passes for Veep in this country.

"Palin doesn't know about Canada and Mexico, and that even though she's one of the leading political figures on energy policy, "

Since when? Nobody ever heard of that clown until two months ago, loser.

Oh--I forgot another one: Joe Biden. If that dumbass is qualified, so's she.

" And since the "job description" of Vice President is to serve as the caretaker of the Naval Observatory, go to state funerals, and cast the deciding vote in the Senate"

Anything else you'd like to add, considering the top of the ticket was 72, or are you going to pretend, so as to avoid the point?

" Joe Biden. If that dumbass is qualified, so's she."

So you actually believe Biden = Palin.

Speaking of dumbass....

Nobody ever heard of that clown until two months ago, loser.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian
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You're right. The nobodies you hang around with had never heard of her. And neither did you.

By the way, I had heard of Sarah Palin before I knew of Barack Obama. Could be because I'm a righty tightie, could be because the governor of Alaska is more consequential than a do-nothing legislator from Chicago. At least if you're in the energy markets.

RCade posted the fake story about the named McCain aide last week and then quickly recognized it was a hoax and said so. The original story, citing an unnamed aide, was by Newsweek, and as far as I know, that one hasn't been debunked yet as a hoax, except by Palin herself.

"Could be because I'm a righty tightie,"

Probably. Only you retards take that ridiculous clown seriously.

Bull shit, and this is nothing but getting someone to step up and protect a dumbass politician.

"she's qualified to be the Vice President. Just like I am. Or you."

Okay...you were joking. Carry on.

So you actually believe Biden = Palin.

Speaking of dumbass....

#30 | Posted by Danforth
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No. Biden is much more stupid than Palin. In fact, I'm hard put to think of a bigger buffoon in national politics than Joe Biden.

But MSNBC didn't run any stories about how Joe Biden is a plagiarizing moron who exhorted the lame to walk, and kept referring to the upcoming Obama Administration as the Biden Administration. Olberman and his pals were too busy printing off their emails and rushing them onto the air to devote any time to Joe Biden's douchebaggery.

Which is fine. The comedy writers will need a new favorite target in a couple of months. And we all know that none of them will be touching Obama. For obvious reasons.

"who exhorted the lame to walk"

Translation: I'm a bitter partisan hack, pissed off that we lost.

This was a hoax. I pulled it offline one minute after posting it.

Here's RCade's original link to the hoax:

www.drudge.com

Again, the hoax was the naming of the aide behind the Africa story. I don't think the original Newsweek story with anonymous sources has been debunked. Has it?

"No. Biden is much more stupid than Palin. In fact, I'm hard put to think of a bigger buffoon in national politics than Joe Biden."

What a dumbass. You would think that he would've earned a reputation in his 65 Face the Nation appearances and 42 Meet the Press interviews as a "buffoon" if that was a fact, moron.

Meanwhile, the Juneau Joke still hasn't appeared on either one, and we all know why. She's a blithering idiot. Like you.

"Biden is much more stupid than Palin."

Ah...still joking.

Now I understand, RIR posted this.

RIR lost my respect a long time ago and makes no bones what so ever to lie and misinform on purpose for his political standing.

Fucking jerk is all he is.

But MSNBC didn't run any stories about how Joe Biden is a plagiarizing moron who exhorted the lame to walk, and kept referring to the upcoming Obama Administration as the Biden Administration.

I did hear them mention the plagarism claim when Biden got the nomination. And before actually.

"#36 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-11-13 11:21 PM | Reply | Flag: Sore Loooooooser

Hey RiR why ddo You bag on Joe Biden for His Fuck Up regarding that Handicapped wheelchair bound person and nary a word about how Dubya made the comment to that blind man for wearing Sunglasses indoors. Funny Dat Be.

Larry

Hey RIR, don't feel too bad, loser. You'll get another chance. In four...long...years. Hahahahahahahaha.

Gal,

Nice post, the hoax is naming the source but has nothing to do with palins' stupidity of not knowing africa is a continent.

And now we have the lying misinformation convoluted RIR trying to twist this whole thing as palin didn't know.

RIR lost my respect a long time ago and makes no bones what so ever to lie and misinform on purpose for his political standing.

Fucking jerk is all he is.

#41 | Posted by moneywar
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I did? I'm devastated.

Still, I didn't know I had a "political standing". Is that a paid position?

Oh, I see Rogue is a better reader than I am and already answered my question:

Perhaps in your zeal, you failed to notice that this piece says the identification of the SOURCE was incorrect, but does not dispute the story itself.


"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin not the Fox News story itself."

#10 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-11-13 10:45 PM |

Hey RIR, don't feel too bad, loser. You'll get another chance. In four...long...years. Hahahahahahahaha.

#45 | Posted by nullifidian
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My candidate won less than 1% of the vote. I don't feel bad, though. My life is somewhat more than what goes on in Washington.

Try it sometime. A life is a good thing to have. Check ebay.

A search of msnbc.com for biden +plagiarism produces 514 hits.

In four...long...years.

That what scares me. It will be another four...long...years, just as it's been four...long...years since 2004.

Goatman-
I don't get the connection.

Nice post, the hoax is naming the source but has nothing to do with palins' stupidity of not knowing africa is a continent.

And now we have the lying misinformation convoluted RIR trying to twist this whole thing as palin didn't know.

#46 | Posted by moneywar

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LMAO. Moneywar, you're so stupid it's hysterical.

Suppose an aide to Obama was quoted as saying that Obama was a Muslim. It gets reported, and I rush to put the link on Drudge. Then it turns out that the aide doesn't exist, but that I still want to argue the point. Wouldn't that make me look dumb?

You're a partisan little bitch. A funny little bitch, but still a bitch. To be fair, I don't know whether or not Palin had ever heard of Africa. But I know she knows the crude production and proven reserves in the Indian Ocean off Somalia, and in the Atlantic Ocean off Nigeria. I know, because I was on a teleconference when she answered questions about it. So my position is this: I think it unlikely that someone could know the minutiae of crude production in emerging markets, and be unaware that there is such a thing as Africa. That's just me, though.

"My candidate won less than 1% of the vote. I don't feel bad, though. My life is somewhat more than what goes on in Washington. "

Yeah, sure, loser. Nice after the fact rationalizing. If McCain had won you would be celebrating. The rightwing lost big. Deal with it, loser.

Oh, yeah, it was Carl Cameron on Fox who broke the original story:

www.drudge.com

www.drudge.com

Now I remember the Cameron video.

"My candidate won less than 1% of the vote."

Cheesy cop-out from a guy who voted for Bush twice and knows he lives in a bright-red state.

I don't get the connection.

It's been four long years since Bush has been president since 2004. I'm afraid that Obama will be such a poor president that it will be another four long years as null said it would be.

Get it now?

This story is not that complicated. Fox News' Carl Cameron reported the story about a McCain advisor saying that Palin thought Africa was a country, not a continent OF countries/nations. MSNBC then got duped by a fraud claiming to be the source quoted by Fox News.

That's it.

This has nothing to do with the original report by Fox News, which they stand behind.

When I said original story, I meant the one with the unnamed source, not the later one with the named aide, which was a hoax.


That's fun. I put in "Biden Gay Lover Obama" and got 720 hits. You do know it's a general search engine, right? And not a link to actual news articles?

www.msnbc.msn.com

When I said original story, I meant the one with the unnamed source, not the later one with the named aide, which was a hoax.

My candidate won less than 1% of the vote. I don't feel bad, though. My life is somewhat more than what goes on in Washington.


Try it sometime. A life is a good thing to have. Check ebay.

#49 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-11-13 11:35 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You mean I got more than one vote?? Unbelievable. LMAO

Larry

Yeah, sure, loser. Nice after the fact rationalizing. If McCain had won you would be celebrating. The rightwing lost big. Deal with it, loser.

#54 | Posted by nullifidian
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The right wing wasn't running, and I said in 2000 that I would never vote for McCain. EVER. So, no, I wouldn't have been celebrating.

I still have a life though. Ups and downs. By the way--how have the markets been doing, since Obama wrapped up the nomination, then the presidency? Maybe I should check that out . . . see how my portfolios are doing . . .

Wow!! I AM a loser!! So is everybody!! Godalmighty!!

Goatman-
re: It's been four long years since Bush has been president since 2004. I'm afraid that Obama will be such a poor president that it will be another four long years as null said it would be.

Get it now?

Yes, I get it. You have decided that Obama will be worse than Bush in advance. Just sorta hitting the ground running this time.

I suppose it makes sense; you were awfully slow off the start last time.

"This has nothing to do with the original report by Fox News, which they stand behind."

Oops.

I guess I'm not the douchebag RiR and I thought I was.

"The right wing wasn't running"

Just 90% of it.

Gal tuesday-
You made perfect sense. And yes, the original Fox report was grotesque in triplicate. (I enjoyed at least two of those copies, just for full disclosure)

You have decided that Obama will be worse than Bush in advance.


???

I've made no decisions. betelg, why do you always to this -- put words in my mouth? If it's to prove you are an idiot, you've long passed that point. No need to continue.

you were awfully slow off the start last time.

LOL You had to ask that the obvious be explained to you. No one else did.

Run along. Find someone else's mouth to put words into.

The right wing wasn't running, "

Bullshit, loser. The lame ass excuses coming out of you losers are pathetic. What in the fuck was the Palin nomination about if the rightwing wasn't running?

Fucking excuse making, crybaby losers.

GAL -

I'm glad you showed up tonight. On the Veteran's Day thread we had a couple days ago here on DR we put together a list of all our DR military veterans -- the poster's name and his branch of service. Maybe I'm wrong but weren't you in the military (or still are)? If so I wanted to make sure you were on the list too. If so, just let me know what branch of the service and I'll add your name to it. We have quite a few names so far.

Nulli, you're just a bore.

Goatman-
I'm just responding to the words you type on the little smart box, dude. They actually have meaning when you string 'em all together.

"Nulli, you're just a bore."

Perhaps, but I'm not a loser like you, loser. See you in 4 years, loser. Hahahahahahaha.

Nulli --

Bullshit, loser. The lame ass excuses coming out of you losers are pathetic. What in the fuck was the Palin nomination about if the rightwing wasn't running?

Fucking excuse making, crybaby losers.

Let me guess. Your favorite insult word to use is??? lol

They actually have meaning when you string 'em all together.

Indeed. They have a very specific and exact meaning. There is no need for your twisted mind to interpret them into someting other than what I wrote. Thank you for your understanding.

Fox News reports that Sarah Palin doesn't know about Africa!! So it must be true!!

--Danforth

By the way, is there any woman over the age of 35 who hasn't seen the movie "Out of Africa"? Is there any woman with children who hasn't seen "The Lion King"?

Still, you know best. Maybe you and Buffalo Bob can hang out together, and look for red dots and demolitions gear on WTC 7.

Goatman-
re: I can remember when that thread first came out I challenged the story. I said no one could be that stupid. Of course I was called everything from a partisian hack to right wing rethuglicuntitardian (or whatever the stupid republican mot de jour was) shill.

As I said, no one could be that stupid. I'll bet I nor anyone else who voiced similiar sentiments gets an apology from the left. But that's to be expected.

Posted by goatman at 2008-11-13 11:11 PM | Reply

Do you understand what the story atop this thread is about by now?

"Fox News reports that Sarah Palin doesn't know about Africa!! So it must be true!!"

So which is it, RiR...should we believe what FOX news tells us, or know it's always bullshit?

Hi Chris,

No, I was never in the military. I had a short lived stint in ROTC when I was a freshman in college, and my dad and stepdad were in the army. Also had a boyfriend once who was in the Air Force. Nice job you have been doing with the military related stuff, btw. I didn't see the Veteran's Day thread you are referring to. Got a link?

Ah. The fallacy of the false choice.

How about, if it seems outrageous, it probably is? It doesn't have to always be true, nor always false. But I see you've opted for door #1 if they're speaking ill of Republicans, but #2 if they have something negative to say about one of yours. Which makes you guilty of being a partisan hack.

Therefore, I recommend you tune in to MSNBC for all your news in the future. You won't have these dilemmas any longer.

"The fallacy of the false choice."

Hardly. Believe, or not believe?

"How about, if it seems outrageous, it probably is? "

I'd go with that, but McCain actually chose Palin. So much for your theory.

Consider a dilemma I had a couple of months ago, when I saw a video of Obama's "58 states" whopper. Now, this wasn't an "unnamed aide" quoting him; it wasn't someone who sent me an email--it was an actual video that was widely reported.

Now I have two possible choices: I can choose to believe that a Harvard-educated legislator who has doubtless seen an American flag a few times in his life didn't know there were only 50 states, and that despite his erudition, he is a retard. Or, I could just assume he was tired, and misspoke.

Which is what I did. Despite the fact that the video was played on Fox. Maybe you should do the same. You know, critical thinking and all that.

Or not. Your business.

Hardly. Believe, or not believe?
* * * *

Okay, whatever. Go ahead and believe everything you see on Fox News. Easier for everyone, probably.

"#74 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-11-13 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag: "

For the month or two after the election? Yes, Chris, "loser" is quite apropo.

That reminds me, Chris...

When I heard the report that Palin, when speaking in New Hampshire, said, "You, here in the Northwest..." I figured she misspoke in the same way Obama did or in the same way Biden did when he said jobs was a three letter word. Now I'm not so sure. The first time I heard McCain confuse Shiites and Sunnis, I figured he misspoke. After he made the same mistake a few times, I wasn't so sure.

#83 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-11-14 12:12 AM

Nevermind, Chris. I found the link. :-)

Sleep well, my fellow Don Quijotes.

GAL

Nevermind, Chris. I found the link. :-)

Good. I saved the list so I'll make sure your name is on it.

CHRIS,

NO! Don't put my name it! I wasn't in the military. See my post above.

GAL

Okay, got your message further up this thread.

You said you found the link. Good. The most up to date "DR Military Veterans" list is one of the last posts on that thread. I think I updated it about 25 times on that one thread as different guys would come on and add their names to it. We have so many veterans on DR we can probably start our personal own army. lol

George Zornick writes: I confess, I told a few people that Joe the Plumber was a relative of Charles Keating, the banker involved in the Keating Five scandal that ensnared Sen. John McCain in 1991. But that's not true -- it's a claim fabricated by a couple pranksters who have gone to elaborate lengths creating an imaginary conservative wonk, Martin Eisenstadt of the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy.

Of course, I only mentioned the Keating connection in conversation, and soon learned it was false. Notably, though, I do not work for a major cable news network, and I didn't pass along any Eisenstadt-based tidbits on the air, as MSNBC's David Shuster did this week. Talking about the rumors that Sarah Palin didn't know Africa was a country, Shuster said: "Turns out it was Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, who has come forward today to identify himself as the source of the leaks."

"Eisenstadt" wrote on his blog that he alone was the source for the rumors, and that indeed Palin didn't know -- and MSNBC hurried to get that on the air after the fake blog post was linked in several mainstream political blogs, including The New Republic.

The prank highlights the vacuous nature of cable news, where information is pumped and then dumped without too much awareness of who provided it, or why. But more importantly it's a caveat to bloggers -- who is behind that Typepad page you want to quote? Do you know them?


mediamatters.org

The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin not the Fox News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony.

Yet it is so funny that there are some people so blinded by leftwing partisianship, that they actually believe that Palin thought Africa is a country. If only folks knew how stupid being a sheeple made them look. . . .

Yet it is so funny that there are some people so blinded by leftwing partisianship, that they actually believe that Palin thought Africa is a country. If only folks knew how stupid being a sheeple made them look. . . .

#95 | Posted by goatman


Why, its damn near as partisan as believing that Obama really thought there were 57 states, right Goat?

Why, its damn near as partisan as believing that Obama really thought there were 57 states, right Goat?

Yes, it is. Did anyone really believe that?

Yes, it is. Did anyone really believe that?

#97 | Posted by goatman


I don't know, but there were certainly a large number of your compatriots citing it at every opportunity. Perhaps you would like to make up for your oversight and condemn them as partisan and stupid sheeple now?

They were partisan and stupid sheeple. Just like you.

LPerhaps you would like to make up for your oversight and condemn them as partisan and stupid sheeple now?

OK. I will. Give me their names

I don't know, but there were certainly a large number of your compatriots citing it at every opportunity.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Are you denying he said it, or just deflecting from the topic at hand referred to as a hoax.

Its OK, just a blanket condemnation of anyone who did that will do.

They were partisan and stupid sheeple. Just like you.

You call m a sheeple just because I don't like Bush, am against the war in Iraq, for gay rights, against prayer in school, am an atheist, pro early term abortion, believe in demand side economics, and against corporate welfare?

That's not fair. I also share some ideologies with the right.

...but there were certainly a large number of your compatriots citing it at every opportunity

???

You don't even know me, much less my compatrots. WTF are you talking about?

Are you denying he said it, or just deflecting from the topic at hand referred to as a hoax.

#101 | Posted by wisgod

#1 - I was addressing Goatman specifically about his comment so accusing me of deflecting is, in and of itself, deflecting.

#2 - I didn't deny he said it. I was commenting on whether or not you folks really believed he thought that.

#3 - You will note that I addressed the subject quite directly when I actually read the article and noted that it was not the report itself that had been retracted, but to whom the report was attributed.

You see, the story was leaked anonymously and reported by several outlets, primarily Fox. Later someone took credit for being the source of the story and THAT was what turned out to be a hoax, not the report..

I don't know if the report is true or false and I never made a claim one way or the other.

You don't even know me, much less my compatrots. WTF are you talking about?

#104 | Posted by goatman

I know you're sleepy and ready to go home, but try not to be disingenuous. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

just a blanket condemnation of anyone who did that will do.

I did. Last sentence. Post #95.

Doing a little selective reading null -- I mean sar?

#2 - I didn't deny he said it. I was commenting on whether or not you folks really believed he thought that.


Posted by SanAntonioRogue

I certainly didn't believe it for a moment. And I also didn't believe that Biden really thought Chuck, the guy in the wheelchair should actually stand up.

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

I was trying to be polite. OK. I'll be blunt. You are a fucking liar. I have no compatriots here.

I certainly didn't believe it for a moment.

#108 | Posted by wisgod


That's good. Then I'll assume that if I did some research (or asked Hans), you wouldn't appear on the list of those who threw it out at the drop of a hat. Because I'm sure no one would offer up something they didn't actually believe as proof of anything.

(or asked Hans),

The guy who tells people to "live in the now" yet whose blog life mainly revolves around digging up past posts? That Hans?

Because I'm sure no one would offer up something they didn't actually believe as proof of anything.

#110 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Oh, I'm guilty for bringing it up. But far less quilty than those duped by the many hoaxes. I would direct your attention to the "Bristol is Trigs Mother" thread aftr the Pain selection.

"duped by the many hoaxes"

So her inability to speak in complete sentences is a hoax?

So her inability to speak in complete sentences is a hoax?

???

Obviously. I've heard her speak using complete sentences.

"yet whose blog life mainly revolves around digging up past posts"

YEAH!

But Obamas past associations and comments are indicative of his judgment


Sincerely

You, pre election


They were partisan and stupid sheeple. Just like you.


You call m a sheeple just because I don't like Bush, am against the war in Iraq, for gay rights, against prayer in school, am an atheist, pro early term abortion, believe in demand side economics, and against corporate welfare?


That's not fair. I also share some ideologies with the right.

#103 | Posted by goatman
* * * *

Chill out Goat--I was responding to San Antonio, when he posted this:

I don't know, but there were certainly a large number of your compatriots citing it at every opportunity. Perhaps you would like to make up for your oversight and condemn them as partisan and stupid sheeple now?

#98 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

* * * *

Regards.

Chill out Goat--I was responding to San Antonio, when he posted this:

I realized aftet I hit publish that it was from you, to SAR, not from SAR to me.

Reading too fast. Mea culpa


"Obviously. I've heard her speak using complete sentences."
#114 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-14 10:23 AM

Then you are as ignorant and clueless as she is!


In speaking about herself, she said,
"My experience as an executive will be put to good use as a mayor and business owner and oil and gas regulator and then as governor of a huge state, an energy producing state that is accounting for much progress towards getting our nation energy independence, and that's extremely important."
A fifty-word sentence without a single clear agent or action!

She is a mutilator, a torturer of our language!

But Obamas past associations and comments are indicative of his judgment

As it is with most people.


Goat

Still no Ride?

Then you are as ignorant and clueless as she is!

It is you who is the ignorant one, redneckshill -- at least in English.

You stated that she was unable to make a complete senctence. To be a complete sentence, it must have a subject and a verb (transitive or intransitive) The sentence you cited above fits that. If you diagram that sentence (and I would, but it would be hard with the limited symbols I have) you would see that the subject is "experience" and the verb "will be" (future tense of 'to be'.

Educate yourself before you speak and make an ass of yourself. Having suffered through many of your posts, I know it must be hard for you.

Still no Ride?

Well, the ride is not for me. I have another week. It is my relief's crew change replacement. So I have to stay up until he gets here.

But no, no ride yet. They are saying 10:00. It must be raining in Houma.


So I have to stay up until he gets here.

Well I hope this is as busy as you have to get.

:)


KHUM is currently VFR

She is a mutilator, a torturer of our language!

#118 | Posted by Redneckville

Translation: I caint stumick somebidy whut I caint unnerstan.

Well I hope this is as busy as you have to get.

LOL

Thanks!

Actually, safety is such a big issue, if I had a call for a problem that required putting on a harness or around high voltage or something of that nature, all I have to say is that I don't feel that I could do the job safely, and there would be no pressure on me to do it nor would there be any reprimand. They are very good about that here.


They are very good about that here.

Good to hear.

Translation: I caint stumick somebidy whut I caint unnerstan.

Posted by wisgod at 2008-11-14 10:45 AM | Reply

ROFLMMFAO Too Fucking Funny. HILARIOUS

KHUM is currently VFR

They should be here any time, then.

Hark! I hear the whirring of helicopter blades. I'll be in bed in 10 or 15 minutes after Mike signs in and puts his stuff away.

I'll be in bed in 10 or 15 minutes after Mike signs in and puts his stuff away.

#129 | Posted by goatman

You must really like Mike.


(Just kidding)


I'll be in bed in 10 or 15 minutes after Mike signs in and puts his stuff away.

Enjoy it..

was ignorant of the fact that Africa is a continent, and not a sovereign nation?

#18 | Posted by rightisright


Africa is a sovereign nation?

en.wikipedia.org

Can someone help find the country of Africa? Who's the leader of the Africa country?

You must really like Mike.

Well, he is kinda cute. *grin*

"My experience as an executive will be put to good use as a mayor and business owner and oil and gas regulator and then as governor of a huge state, an energy producing state that is accounting for much progress towards getting our nation energy independence, and that's extremely important."

A better way to have contructed the sentence would have been:

"My experience as an executive, as a mayor and business owner and oil and gas regulator and then as governor of a huge state, an energy producing state that is accounting for much progress towards getting our nationn energy independence, will be put to good use, and that's important."

Unless she meant:

"My experience as an executive, as a mayor and business owner and oil and gas regulator and then as governor of a huge state, an energy producing state that is accounting for much progress towards getting our nationn energy independennce, and that's important, will be put to good use."

As the sentence stands, the verb will is describing what she did as a mayor, business owner, yadda yadda: things she has already done, or is currently doing, not what she is going to do in the future. In truth, the sentence is messed up and logically makes no sense, though one can generally parse out what her meaning was. That said, she was talking off the cuff, not reading from a speech or writing, and most people are more imprecise with their language use under those circumstances.

Goat, if you diagram the sentence, something I was never very good at, I think you'll see the problem in the sentence structure I've described.


Goat, if you diagram the sentence, something I was never very good at, I think you'll see the problem in the sentence structure I've described.
~GT


OMG sentence structure and diagrams.

What a way to clear a room.

Oh geez Grammar class. Lord have mercy.

"Translation: I caint stumick somebidy whut I caint unnerstan."

Ya' just gotta love our little leftist-socialist friends. They are such hypocrtites and practice such a critical double standard that they appear comical. All that preaching of compassion, tolerance and love...where in hell is all that understanding, inclusion and equality? Why am I not feeling all this love? The little beasts start becoming vicious really young too. They are so full of bullshit!

www.orlandosentinel.com

Goat, if you diagram the sentence, something I was never very good at, I think you'll see the problem in the sentence structure I've described

I see what you are saying.

BTW, not split hairs or anything *ahem* the verb in the sentece is 'will be', 3rd person singular future tense of the infinitive verb 'to be'. But better splitting hairs than infinitives. *grin*

Zap,

True dat. As English major and teacher, I never cared for dat stuff.

What a way to clear a room.

Wanna hear something really sicko? I actually enjoyed diagramming sentences in HS English. I don't know why, but found it fun. I even liked it in Latin class, although I thought it was much easier. I don't know if that was because the sentences were more simple or if it was because Latin had a more logical structure than English. think it was a little of both.

BTW, not split hairs or anything *ahem* the verb in the sentece is 'will be', 3rd person singular future tense of the infinitive verb 'to be'. But better splitting hairs than infinitives. *grin*

Oopsy daisy, I stand corrected. Like I said, I never cared for dat kind of stuff. Used to give me a mental block. LOL

I can not believe this stupid story garnered 124 comments.

Palin-itis has caused many on the left to become flat-out retarded.

You believe some aid who doesn't even exist when he says, anonymously of course, that Sarah Palin didn't know Africa was a country. That is first grade geography.

Yet, Barack Obama publicly states that the US has 57 states and you all immediatly assume, as I did, that he made a simple mistake. He misspoke.

I watched some of Palin's post-election interviews. She's doesn't strike me as a genius, but she does come off as fairly intelligent.

If she is truly as gifted as many of her supporters believe (I am still playing 'wait and see'), she needs to do 4 things if she wants to have a reasonable shot at a nomination AND a victory in 2012:

1. She needs to notch more accomplishment as governor of Alaska.

2. She needs to study - study real hard - on the issues of national politics and global affairs. Obama demonstrated book smarts on national and global affairs; she needs to be able to do the same.

3. She needs to schedule some high-profile personal interviews - interviews that probe into who she really is and what she truly believes. The GOP allowed her character to be defined by the opposition and their substantial allies in the press. She needs to define herself.

4. She needs to find a way to be less divisive AND she needs to try and charm the media in lieu of continuing with an adversarial relationship. As a bunch of blatantly biased, hardened liberals, she will NEVER get a fair shake within the media. She needs to understand that (I think she does); she needs to NOT talk about it and instead do what she can to reduce the prejudicial bias the media has, and will always have no matter what, toward her.

As English major and teacher,

What grade do you teach? What type of Engish? (Lit, grammar, )

I even liked it in Latin class, although I thought it was much easier.

One educational regret I have is that I never took Latin when I had the chance. Silly me. :-)

Mikey's here. 'nite all.

Jeff-

I don't think Palin "needs" to do any of that stuff. I'd much rather see the Republican party get behind someone like Paul Ryan than try to "develop" Palin into someone formidable. There are real conservatives and reformers within the party that don't come with Palin's baggage.

She is a mutilator, a torturer of our language!

#118 | Posted by Redneckville
* * * *

Kettle, meet pot.

Goat,

I have taught freshman level college English, writing and lit. The reason I didn't take Latin was because the teacher was a bitch. I had her for a math class, and she scared the crap out of me. My high school comp teacher was also a scary bastard. I sat behind some poor guy whose papers came back looking like bloody bandages. On top of that the teacher used to read excerpts from the student's paper in front of the class. A little too much shame to be motivational, I always thought. It occurs to me now to wonder if that teacher had been a sargent in the army, or whether he had a fulfilling sex life, or any kind of life for that matter. But I digress. . . .

Nite, Goat. Sleep well. Sounds like you've earned it.

Deep down I secretly hoped the story was true, even though I was sure it wasn't.

I still hate Palin.

Joe,

I don't necessarily disagree with you.

This is my biggest fear:

Some of the GOP's love for Sarah Palin was purely emotional, kinda like Obama's gushing support, but on a much smaller scale.

I'd hate to see her secure a nomination based primarilly on a popularity contest only to have her tank in a campaign.

Again, I see some things I really like in her, but she's just too unproven at this point.

Jeff, I think a lot of the GOP's love for Palin was purely reactionary. The left had a fit over her, attacked her, and it gave Republicans a reason to support their party. Bottom line, there are better prospects within the party than her. Hopefully those with power agree with me.

From last night...

"...because the governor of Alaska is more consequential than a do-nothing legislator from Chicago."

That do-nothing legislator from Chicago is the next President of the United States, and the "consequential" governor of Alaska is now scrambling around doing flop-sweat career damage control on any microphone she sees...a far cry from her media exposure during the campaign. So...NOW she wants to burble and coo for the camera? Honk! Sorry...times up, thanks for playing and here's your lovely parting gift.

I won't speak for any of you, but I'm not interested in anything the woman had or has to say. I'm not even interested in her accepting Hef's invitation for a spread in his stodgy old girly mag.

Steele understands what she was able to do. She won't be my choice in 2012, but for what she accomplished in a short amount of time within the party is impressive. Hopefully, they're smart enough to become fiscally responsible again.

JeffJ - I can agree with some of your points in post #142, but not #4. Palin all but refused to be interviewed until after the election was over. Why? She seems to speak pretty well when she can say whatever she wants to say. I can't stand to hear her voice, but that's just an opinion.

Hey, I also know Olbermann is the left's version of O'Reilly, but he offered to have Palin on for an Q&A for one hour, live, without tape splicing, etc. to answer some questions. She didn't do it.

Obama did go on the O'Reilly show and I think Billo respected him for it as did a lot of people.

All I ask is for people to stop with the Palin didn't get a fair shake with interviews and the media. Had she stepped up from day one, accepted interviews, then you would be correct.

Middleroad,


I concur on this.


The biggest thing that Palin brought to the ticket was that she WASN'T a Washington insider. I really think at least part of her failure regarding her Couric and Gibson interviews was that she was shackled into the position of supporting McCain's stated positions, even when she disagreed with him. She was spouting talking-points in lieu of speaking her mind.


If she's serious about a 2012 run, she needs to do some tough interviews. She needs to make her beliefs, opinions and personality as clear as possible. Either she will resonate or she won't.

It will be interesting to see how she proceeds with her career.

JeffJ - I can agree with some of your points in post #142, but not #4. Palin all but refused to be interviewed until after the election was over. Why? She seems to speak pretty well when she can say whatever she wants to say.

My question is: did she do no interviews/etc before the election because she didn't want to, or because the McCain campaign forced her not to? That's a pretty big distinction.

Like you, though, I'd agree with pretty much everything JeffJ said in #142. If Palin can prove herself to be intelligent and experienced in 2012, then I think she'd have a good shot running for the GOP. But if she doesn't prove herself, she's going to crash and burn.

Either way, I'm sick of the media circlejerking over her right now. Her voice gets on my nerves too.

JeffJ and Kinger...I think we're on the same page. I am pretty sure she didn't do interviews because she didn't want to. More so she had to agree 100% with McCain which isn't the case.

I'm not sure she would be able to win in 2012 if she keeps saying things about Obama and terrorists, plus we don't know what the next 3+ years will bring. Hopefully the divisive issues that she peddles are gone and the congress/president focus on jobs, the economy, etc.

I'd say should the country be on an upswing with job creation and looking healthy all other things being equal Obama would probably end up with another 4 years.

"There should be some apologies here--to Governor Palin by some of the posters"

Why? It's not like I called her Anti-American!

"Why did the story that Sarah Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent gain such credibility in the media?"

Probably because she presents herself as an un-educated, poor grammar speakin' Idiot! It was believable because when people listened to her they believed she was a Moron!

Talk bout missing the Obvious!

Now, please explain why it's someone else's fault the way one is perceived by others?

From a "personal responsibility" point of view of course!

"Why did the story that Sarah Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent gain such credibility in the media?"

In a word: Plausibility.

Hans

So the story is a hoax and folks blow it off?

I shouldn't be surprised.

Dang--I looked to see if this was already a thread and posted another.



I called bullshit on this story when it first came out.

RiR has the thread on the front page--

www.drudge.com


My bad for the duplicate.

Sounds like all you loons are obsessed with Palin or maybe you are afraid of the crowds she attracted. Face it loons millions of America identify with her and what woman from middle America would love to go on a shopping spree at Saks and Neiman Marcus. My only suggestion is at Barneys. They are having a sale right now

Sarah Palin's performances this week on the TV shows and particularly in Miami yesterday make no apology of any kind TO her of any significance.

An apology FROM her might be welcomed before she finally shuts up (and one can only dread that she will never shut up).

murph
i said it was most likely bs as well
as did most people.

So the story is a hoax and folks blow it off?
I shouldn't be surprised.
#4 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-11-14 01:56 PM


I'm not; it was Fox News after all! I think most of their reporting is false anyway so im not shocked in the slightest!

Funny thing is, for someone who rails against the media in general, you sure seem to put a great deal of Stock into what they say in the end!

So the story is a hoax and folks blow it off?

I shouldn't be surprised.

#4 | Posted by MURPHY


Just a reminder that the original story has not been refuted. It was leaked to the press and reported out by Fox.

Later, someone came along a claimed credit for being the original source. The story of who the source was is the hoax, not the story itself... so far.

Sorta like the Rather story on W AWOL. Never disproven, just unvarifiable with current circumstantial evidence.

I still believe the big douchebag was as AWOL as 101 at a diversity seminar.

Palin and Africa: It's Truth even if she never actually said it.

Obama and "57 states": A slip of the tongue, as there are 57 entities with convention delegates, that I for one am willing to forgive. herm

I believe it. When I look into Sarah Palin's eyes I see a welcome vacancy sign flashing bright neon.

Larry

#139 | Posted by LarryMohr

Larry I believe thats just the reflection of your own sign flashing back at you.

Of course W was AWOL (and his strategery was misunderestimated), of course Sarah thought Africa a country, of course Dan Quayle didn't know how to spell potatoe. We need Republican legends. herm

The story that Governor Sarah Palin did not know that Africa is a continent appears to have been a hoax.

You're mistaken. The story Palin didn't know Africa was a continent is not a hoax. The hoax is that a fake McCain aide claimed to be the guy who leaked that story.

There's still an unidentified McCain aide who told that story to Carl Cameron of Fox News and other reporters.

Of course MSNBC did not even conduct a casual fact check because it was a negative story on a Republican. If it was a negative story on Obama, they would have checked it for weeks or months before publishing. Look how long it took the liberal papers like the LA Times or NY Times to write stories about Democrat John Edward's affair. The tabloids had been reporting on it for an entire year before they picked it up. Negative story about a Republican...just run with it with no vetting process whatsoever.

MSNBC is not even a legitimate news source anyway so what does it really matter.

"Look how long it took the liberal papers like the LA Times or NY Times to write stories about Democrat John Edward's affair"

How long do you think it'll be before they report the tabloid-reported story alleging the Cindy McCain affair?

Just curious, you being such a keen, evenhanded observer of the media.

the economy is about three letters J O B S.spoken by v.p. joe biden.so much smarter then palin.

SO I guess the 177 comments are confirming that there was an article stating that an anomyous person thinks Palin is a dum-dum.

Specifically, the comments seem to focus on
'she is not a dumdum'
'is too'
'nuh-uh'
'uh-huh'
'yer a dumdum'
'no, you are and so's this other guy'

When I think the more glaring point is McCain hired a guy without enough balls to say 'you're a big fat dumdum head' in public.
How useless is he?

They should spend the exact amount of time and resources reversing this error as they did trying to destroy her.

Sarah Who?

Oh yeah, that religious extremist who wants to secede from the union and helped create more votes for Obama.

Is she still around? Either way, thanks Sarah!

So the story may not be false, they just got the source wrong? Am I understanding this correctly?

MSNBC has fallen for all Palin hoaxes. Olbermann and Maddow dedicate most of their program to promote the hoaxes.

So the story may not be false, they just got the source wrong? Am I understanding this correctly?

#181 | Posted by NoGov4Me


That is correct. The original story itself has not been proven false, nor has it been retracted. Only the claim of who the source was for the story has been proven false.

From the article:

"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin not the Fox News story itself."


That is correct. The original story itself has not been proven false, nor has it been retracted. Only the claim of who the source was for the story has been proven false.

GOP standard method of decrying the truth.

See: Dan Rather


Sarah Palin didn't know that Africa is a continent and didn't know which countries belong to NAFTA, according to FOX NEWS' Carl Cameron,


#149 | Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Or so say some gutless anonymous campaign staffers who lack the courage to come forward and stand by their allegations. Of course that's sufficient for those who see her as a potential threat. She gave a good speech at the convention that energized the Republican base and gave McCain a boost in the polls and immediately the bomb throwing began. I'm not convinced that she will or should be a force for the Repubs going forward; but, I don't buy the unsubstantiated allegations touted here and elsewhere. Believe what you want to believe. It's what folks here do best.

Palin and whatever in 2012. Please.


Sounds like all you loons are obsessed with Palin or maybe you are afraid of the crowds she attracted. Face it loons millions of America identify with her

#165 | Posted by timbci at 2008-11-14 02:01 PM |

maybe they should have voted for her and McGrampy.

What do you expect? It's BSNBC! They are always wrong!

I know this thread is just about played out, but what the hell...

Do you know why Sarah Palin has avoided visiting Australia?

She doesn't like long bus trips.

Yeah, we're terrified of the Baked Alaskan.

Yeah, we're terrified of the Baked Alaskan.

Spud is a totally Baked Potato and refers to Scary Failin as the "half-baked Alaska" in light of the ideas in her fading beauty pageant queen head.

Also wot's up with her "word salad" approach to oration that she obviously mistakes for an ability to speak publically?

Seriously, does she even know that words are supposed to go in a certain order to enable her listeners to understand her?

She just spouts off buzz-words and half finished sentences and then afterwords winks like she's actually made some kind of point.

She makes Miss Teen South Carolina look like freakin' Einstein in direct comparison.

Be Well.

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