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Wednesday, November 12, 2008

As early voting and absentee votes are counted in Alaska Mark Begich has taken a lead in the count for Ted Stevens' Senate seat. According to the Alaska elections site Begich now leads by 814 votes.

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yeah 60!!

LM

Wow, shows what a dumb electorate they really have. How many counts was he convicted of? 7?

Don't underestimate the power of the third party vote. Everyone disparages it as worthless, but I, a native Minnesotean, did vote third party cross the board (absentee), and la-di-da, if Alaska's dem candidate holds on, and the runoff in Georgia's nets the other Dem, it could be that third party candidates in my state took enough votes away from Al Franken to keep Coleman in. Well, this might very well be what keeps the dems from getting that filibuster proof senate, and really, a carte blanche on totally fucking up the country, taking over for what the GOP didn't have time to fuck up in the last 8 years.

For me, I voted for libertarian Charles Aldrich for Senate because he's a fellow vet Marine, and he lives in Blue Earth, home of the JOLLY GREEN GIANT!

Norm Coleman's a nitwit to be re-elected, but if you look at it big picture, Minnesota's strong showing for third party candidates might just have saved this country's ass!!!

So please don';t line up and thank me if the dems get their 59 seats instead of 60. Actually, thank those who voted for Barkley-- he stole 10 percent of the vote from al "schmeckel" Franken!

KGB-In other words-you're a "closet" Rethuglicunt....

"KGB-In other words-you're a "closet" Rethuglicunt....'

Actually I'm a libertarian, though I have voted GOP in the past, and I'm not embarrassed to say I did, though I am personally regretful.

Keep looking, I know you'll find another fellow "closet" guy, Frank, LOL!

I hope Begich made it to the toilet before he passed Stevens.

Fucking A Man keep kicking His ass Begich. WTG. Let's hope they kick the Stevens dude to the curb like so much used garbage. Hot Damn.

Larry

He was up over 800 votes @7:30 AKST!!!!

AKST Alaska Sarah Time. LMAO

AKST Alaska Sarah Time.= 1/2 hr - 3 days late

Buy that old motherfucker a package of Depends and send him home.

"Well, this might very well be what keeps the dems from getting that filibuster proof senate, and really, a carte blanche on totally fucking up the country, taking over for what the GOP didn't have time to fuck up in the last 8 years."

You mean the little bit of it left after the Republicans, who you admit you voted for, are done fucking it up. All you may really accomplish is to force the Dems to us the Nuclear Option as the Rethugs threatened to do. The country is far too badly damaged to allow obstructionists like you to prevent the Dems from doing the necessary things to bring it back to good health. Did someone say "raise taxes on the rich?" Like forget about the Bush tax cuts, how about them Reagan tax cuts?
Oooooh! That's sure create a knot in the tummy of some greedy Rethugs.

I love how half the state went along with his definition of "convicted": he's not convicted until he's run out all his appeals, i.e. not until the SCOTUS says he is. LOL.

As a solid Democrat and political junkie my hopes are this, Begich wins and Stevens does 180 days in a Club Fed before beginning his retirement and weekly visits with his parole and/or probation officer.

I'm not concerned about MN or GA races at all. MN recounts might narrow the gap but I doubt they're going to turn to Franken. Georgia goobers will in all likelihood elect our POS Chambliss in the runoff.

But the biggest reason that I want to see Stevens fall is that with his homecoming to AK the spotlight on Palin dims considerably and I can see no downside to that at all.

Another note. Stevens running around the country saying "I've not been convicted of anything yet" will not sit too well with a Federal judge as the sentencing process moves forward. He may get probation but then again the judge may choose to make a point. And I'm by no means saying that his appeals are wrong, just that he should watch what comes rolling out of his piehole, not that he's famous for verbal restraint.

#15 | Posted by Reagan58

His lawyer must be having a conniption fit over Stevens' "They haven't convicted me of anything" spiel. Clients can often be their own worst enemies, and Stevens is a case in point. He may've been a senator since Christ was a corporal, but that won't slow down a judge who gets pissed off.

Are we to understand that half of Alaskans are as retarded as we think they are?

Are we to understand that half of Alaskans are as retarded as we think they are?

#17 | Posted by panchovilla

Are we to understand that over half of the US citizens are more retarded than we thought they were?

Are we to understand that over half of the US citizens are more retarded than we thought they were?

Must. Resist.

Good-as-gold news.

Are we to understand that over half of the US citizens are more retarded than we thought they were?

#18 | Posted by Sniper at 2008-11-13 09:52 AM | Reply |

All a matter of perspective or point of view, I know. But after the brutal butt fucking you guys got from the last republican admin, to vote another similar gov't in would (at least from here) look like the more retarded thing to do, if you can step away from partisan lock-stepping.

The country is far too badly damaged to allow obstructionists like you to prevent the Dems from doing the necessary things to bring it back to good health.
Danni statments remind us of how big a fool she is.

"Danni statements remind us of how big a fool she is."

#22 | Posted by slicksterWilly at 2008-11-13

YEAH!

And Bush's presence in the WH is a reminder of how what was perfectly acceptable to you last year, is now predictably a concern for you now!

But don't worry, it will only be 40 years plus two months you will have to endure!

Newt/Palin 2012!

I would just HATE it if any meaningful progress in the next Senate is impaired by a tiny handful of Minnesota Neanderthals who wouldn't put Al Franken in the Senate. With Begich, and then Franken, Obama could really make a start on repairing some of the Bush damage. herm

Begich will get the majority of the still uncounted votes so this is now a lock for the Dems giving them 56 seats, or 58 counting Sanders and Lieberman. Minnesota and Georgia could give them the magic 60 but the odds are heavily against them winning both of those, far more likely they'll win neither. Gotta be nice to Joe while it's a possibility though.

"Danni statements remind us of how big a fool she is."

#22 | Posted by slicksterWilly at 2008-11-13

Yeah cuz she doesn't parrot Rush Limbaugh's propaganda that tax cuts for rich folks help working folks. With the tax rates pre-Reagan the United States built the largest manufacturing economy in the world. Since his tax cuts we have watched as our industrial base has discintigrated.
Don't blame me, them's the facts.

Danni,

Your case against a reduction in tax rates for the highest brackets would be more compelling if you weren't so frickin' giddy at the notion that your beloved Democrats are going to 'stick it to those greedy rich fucks'.

Progressive taxation makes sense on multiple levels - in fact, our tax code as it exists now shifted the total percentage of income tax dollars contributed to the treasury slightly higher than the percentage was prior to your hated Bush tax cuts. THAT is the essence of progressive taxation.

Having said that, you rarely argue progressive taxation on merit, other than fucking in the ass anyone who earns one bracket higher than your own. Your arguments come accross as vidictive, spiteful and envious in lieu of logical - much of the time.

Anyhow, enough about your posting style.

Above all else, I favor a balanced budget; extreme circumstances such as attempting to stave off a recession notwithstanding.

The problem I have with our government is that reducing spending is rarely an option. Going forward, I propose the following toward the goal of achieving a balanced budget:

For every dollar of proposed increase of tax revenue a matching dollar of proposed decrease of government spending must correspond. It's perfectly fair. We have a take matched by a give.

I won't hold my breath though.

Yeah cuz she doesn't parrot Rush Limbaugh's propaganda that tax cuts for rich folks help working folks.

Instead she parrots class hating extreme liberal propaganda that tax increases for the rich folks help working folks.

Neither act, by itself, does.

Wow, shows what a dumb electorate they really have. How many counts was he convicted of? 7?

#2 | Posted by BenFranklinn

7 felonies

Think about this: Nothing suggested so far is going to work. The present system has failure hard-wired into it. The only solution is to wipe the slate clean and start over. The axiom that "you can put lipstick on a pig, but..." fits this situation perfectly. We have the tools, the intelligence, all the necessary resources...all we need is a leader to put the puzzle together. I think we just elected that leader. I hope he comes to the same conclusion.

Stevens can play the George Burns role in a remake of "Going In Style" should he not get reelected.

...Alaska [Democrat] Mark Begich has taken a lead in the count for [Republican] Ted Stevens' Senate seat...

Oh, oh, there goes Sarah's plans to run as President Palin in 2012.

The behind the scene deal was for Ted Stevens to win re-election to the Senate but then he would lose his Senate seat because the Republicans planned to remove him from the Senate due to his felony conviction leaving the seat open for Palin to run for it. Then Palin planned on running (and winning) Steven's now vacated Senate seat and take it over until 2012 when she would toss her hat into the ring to run for Prez.

But if the Democrat wins instead (which looks like what's going to happen), then guess Sarah will have to just stay put as Governor of the great northern wilderness of Alaska.

Can you say election fraud?!!!!

Just like with the race in Minnesota. Voting officials are finding all of these absentee ballots in the trunks of cars and they all vote for the Democrat candidates. Good grief!! When the Lord God and Royal Highness and Majesty Barack Hussein Obama hits the White House, I am sure there will be move backed by Pelosi and Reid to make being a Republican a federal crime punishable by death.

"Just like with the race in Minnesota. Voting officials are finding all of these absentee ballots in the trunks of cars and they all vote for the Democrat candidates."

Really, and you think the republican majority in alaska is doing that? Please post support of this assertion, as for now I call bullshit!! I have googled and found nothing, sounds like another made up right wing story.

LM

P.S. Did you hear Sarah Palin voted twice, and none were where she was supposed to so they are throwing her vote out!!

P.S.S. See how easy it is to make up bullshit, the Palin line was my own creation

Just shows how much Alaskans HATE Democrats. Plus voters know that if the GOP prevails, Stevens can resign and Sarah Palin will take over in the Senate.

Palin 2012.

Just shows how much Alaskans HATE Democrats. Plus voters know that if the GOP prevails, Stevens can resign and Sarah Palin will take over in the Senate
How do you know what Alaskans like and hate?

Most people are making judgements about the voting process here based on how things function in the lower 48. Many of the precincts here are in remote areas accessible only by dogsled or airplane. Things move a bit slower here because of that.

Ted Stevens did a lot for Alaska and the support of him doesn't reflect how people feel about Democrats. What I am telling you... long story short... you are full of shit.

"AKST Alaska Sarah Time.= 1/2 hr - 3 days late"

I thought Alaska Sarah Time was a day late and a dollar short.

"Just like with the race in Minnesota. Voting officials are finding all of these absentee ballots in the trunks of cars and they all vote for the Democrat candidates."

That lie being propagate by Sean Hannity and Megyn Kelly has been completely discredited by the Republicans involved in the vote tally in MN. In fact, 32 ballots were found - and despite the Right Wing nutcases "all 32 went to Franken" they didn't:

But as MinnPost's David Brauer reported yesterday: the story of the 32 absentee ballots is flat wrong. He called up Minneapolis election director Cindy Reichert to get the facts. She (Pawlenty during two Fox appearances in as many days called her "he") attests the car-ballot story is "just not true": She never had the ballots in her car nor were they in anyone's car for several days and they were kept in secure facilities between election day and vote counting. It was Coleman's attorney, Fritz Knaak, who told reporters, "We were actually told ballots had been riding around in her car for several days, which raised all kinds of integrity questions." From there, the Wall Street Journal picked up on it and reported it as fact; similar to Hannity's on-screen graphic (shown above), the error appeared in a story headlined "Mischief in Minnesota?" . . .
Franken won half, 18, seven were cast for Coleman, and the remainder went to other candidates.

minnesotaindependent.com

Knaak (Coleman's lawyer) never provided a source and did not return two MinnPost calls for comment. However, he was already backing off his story at the same press event. As that day's Pioneer Press noted, "Knaak said he feels assured that what was going on with the 32 ballots was neither wrong nor unfair."

Still, the lie that won't die is that Reichert toted around ballots like an empty McDonald's bag thrown into the back seat.

www.minnpost.com

So what have we learned? We've learned that the "Right" doesn't care about the truth. We've learned that the Wall Street Journal doesn't check "facts" when it comes to "the Right" and that the mouth pieces at Fox News are all too happy to lie.

OK, I actually didn't learn that - I've known that for a long time.

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