Lord I hate these ignorant Right Winged Fucktards. I mean really the Religious Right thinks they're Gods gift to mankind when in reality they are pond scum. First they declare Obama a NAZI not even when He is President yet and actions make people think that Yes indeed Obama has NAZI like tendencies. Until the dude acts the way the NAZI's did STFU. Then those Relious Right declare that they believe in equality of everyone at the same time they are relegating a certain segment of the population as Second Class citizens. I mean really what is their cranial malfunctions?? Makes You wonder WWJD.

Larry

You're really making an impact Alex. Keep up the good werk.

After years of Bush being compared to Hitler, someone does it to St. Obama? How dare they?

*sob* Someone have a hankie?

Well Goatman when one's "Leaders" behavior is just like Hitlers what else are You gonna call it. If it walks talks and acts like a duck You wouldn't say they acted like a goose Ya know.

Larry

Light the torches !! Boil the oil !!

Find Dobson's followers !!

Looks like a very effective fund raising letter. Assuming of course that the target audience has any spare cash left.

So in order to protect the family we should have voted for the divorced philanderer? Who knew?

I am with Goatman... the hypocracy of the left is astounding. They have said far, far worse about Bush.

Sawdust-
Blogging 101, first lesson:

Learn how to spell "hypocrisy".

" the hypocracy(sic) of the left is astounding "

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

No wonder Michigan is an economic disaster, it's filled with illiterates.

Thank You, Betel

Good catch. Majored in Math in college, spelling is not my forte.

So, aside from my spelling. Would you agree that there is some hypocrisy in all this outrage by the left?

Dobson's all pissy because he's got all those copies of Mein Kampf he can't unload now.

"Some hypocrisy in all thos outrage by teh Left....?"

Oh, there's always hypocrisy everywhere. But I wonder if you recall all those Republicans comparing Clinton to Hitler?

What I think is funny is people calling Obama a "thug" because he's from Chicago, but also calling the soon-to-be-past prez and VP great Americans for approving the torture of human beings.

........why is their tax exemption not revoked ?....

I am with Goatman... the hypocracy of the left is astounding. They have said far, far worse about Bush.

#8 | Posted by sawdust

The problem here is that Bush has earned the scorn and Obama has not even been given a chance. I don't remember Bush being vilified before he took office and on Sept.12, 2001 everyone in the country respected him. Of course, things went downhill from there.

BTW, these are "model" Christians, right?

Hmmm, no one thought that Bush and the repubs stole the election from Gore?

I will agree that after 9/11 Bush had the world behind him and pissed it away.

But to say that it was only after the war in Iraq did not go as planned that people started to say bad things I do not believe is accurate.

"I am with Goatman...
#8 | Posted by sawdust "

Fruit-tart.

I am with Goatman.

#8 | Posted by sawdust at 2008-11-08 08:45 AM

unless you bleat, i doubt your his type.

Now the blind lemming left Obamaphiles are sounding like the the Bill Oreilly's, and Sean Hannity's.
Wah! Wah! If you don't agree with Obama, just shut up! Wah!
If you try and put out any information about Obama, you get attacked and called a hate monger, or you get arrested.
What a bunch of sheeple mindslaves.
Larry, You're one of the worst.

didn't you move to denmark, asshat?

Notice how the Un-American, douchebag, Obama mindslave, morons never have an intelligent retort, only personal attack.
They hope to silence the truth thru intimidation.
A perfect example of the fascism growing in America.

Mindslaves huh JeffNDenmark?? bwhahahahahhahahahahahahahahah
ahahahahha Too fucking hilarious for words bwhahahahahahahahahahahha

Larry

"After years of Bush being compared to Hitler"

Were these "years" pre or post swearin' in?

Maybe what you are missin' is the part where Obama is doing something Hitler'esk first!

You know, like havin' atleast ONE policy and such!

Hypocrisy indeed!

Well, those of you who support Obama, what is your solution to the economy? How are you going to reverse this? How are you going to create jobs?

Attacking people does not solve anything. Neither does blaming others. People are looking for leaders. They are looking for solutions. As I have told my children, there are people who talk about people and people who talk about ideas. Find yourself with those who talk about ideas and you will be ahead in life.

What you are asking Saw is how is Obama gonn clean up W's huge frickin mess.

Thanks for acknowledging that W made a ginormous mess that will prolly take more than a week or two to fix.

Years is more like it.

In the mean time, you may wanna wait till he is prez before you start bashin him for w's fuckups.

Let them talk!! Now that their tactics have been rejected by the voters, let them continue to behave in the same way, further alienating the electorate.

On a like note - some 64% of republitards want Sarah to run in 2012. I would think that 100% of Democrats do, too.

I've been perusing this blog since '04, and I remember many of the folks lined up to attack Obama before he's even entered office, and wailing about what he may or may not do to solve the problems and how he better hurry up and prove his mettle by untangling this clusterfuck, I remember these same folks lambasting liberals, nearly, or definitely, calling them traitors and un-American for questioning Bush and co., but now these folks don't seem to have any inclination or want to hold the man they elected twice and their party accountable. I know it shouldn't amaze me; but it does. Who the hell are you people? Do you love your country, or your party? WTF is your problem, children? Be responsible. You belittled people who turned out to be true and right, questioned their love of country, when it is your lack of judgement in regards to truth and character that have contributed to where we are. And now... No accountability, just more attacks. You are the worse of the worse. And you know who you are. Ugly, stupid and from this moment on, as far as I'm concerned, thankfully irrelevant.

Right on Midiman! Let the right burn up the very last bit of coal it has in the fires of political life.

They've wasted their party's power. They've been ripped off for trillions by their leaders and now they have nothing left to do but eat each other.

And then there is Palin....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

BTW. Bush = Hitler is not too far off righties. Or have you forgotten that Prescott was a dear friend of Hitler, and Hitler's crime of genocide, though a few million more, is matched by Bush's Genocide in iraq.

I guess those Iraqia are only brown people, so they only count for 3/5s of a Crakkkah!

So in order to protect the family we should have voted for the divorced philanderer? Who knew?

Well, he went so well with the fornicatress who breeds fornicatresses.

Focus on the family should follow the truth in advertising laws and rename itself "Republican Zealots".

Hopefully, the Republicans will realize their adherence to the wishes of the talibaptists have bee their undoing and relegate these assklowns to the status of Naderites and Rainbow Coalitionists.

The hysteria from the right is comical.

Wait for it. The intelligent side of the Republican party -- and there is one if you can believe it -- will learn from 2008 and distance itself from the theocratic nuts such as Dobson. I'm stocking up on popcorn for 2012 when these two factions have at each other: one trying to get an actual conservative nominated, the other propping up Palin, or, as they refer to her, Jesus with a Vag.

Hmmm, no one thought that Bush and the repubs stole the election from Gore?

I will agree that after 9/11 Bush had the world behind him and pissed it away.

But to say that it was only after the war in Iraq did not go as planned that people started to say bad things I do not believe is accurate.

#17 | Posted by sawdust

Yes, Bush was vilified for what people perceived as a stolen election but certainly not for what his policies and actions would be. Also, it was not Bush that was criticized but the Republican party for the election problems. Try to remember if Bush was criticized for policies that had not yet been proposed or enacted.

That's funny comming from the pro-war, anti-science, homophobic, xenophobic, self rightous, right wing jesus freak nutjobs.

Good point NG, the irony of Dobson endorsing 2 adulterers and fornicators!

Talk about hypocrisy.
I guess that 6,000 yr thing put her over the top.

Hey, I don't dissagree that Bush and the Repubs messed things up. Their deficit spending and the state that the economy is in, is a disgrace. The Repubs have been held accountable, they were voted out of office.

What I have been hearing is that we need change. AND I *agree* that we need change. I am not sure the change Obama and the Dems are going to give us is change that will fix the problem. But, time will tell. This is their chance.

That is why I want them to hurry up. I want to see if what they are selling works. Then we will know whether to let them stay in power in two and then again in four years.

That's funny. They were calling Obama a commie during the whole campaign. Not really possible to be both a commie AND a nazi, since they are polar opposites. Communists are at the extreme left of the political spectrum, and nazis are at the extreme right - kind of right near where FOTF is... :)

focus on the family, wow what a powerhouse of reason, compassion, moderation and logical conclusions. taking bets their ancestors were nazi sympathizers. when did christians decide to get so ugly whenever they didn't get their way?

footnote. my mother was in concentration camp because her father a methodist minister would not become a nazi. grandfather saw plenty of methodist ministers save their asses and join the nazis. enough said

focus on the family will just implode, its only a matter of time.

Notice how the Un-American, douchebag, Obama mindslave, morons never have an intelligent retort, only personal attack.

#23 | POSTED BY JEFFNDENMARK AT 2008-11-08 01:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG: SELF-RETORTING RETORT

Not really possible to be both a commie AND a nazi, since they are polar opposites.

If you can be a radical muslim with a christian spiritual leader, yes you can! You betcha!

Sad when Ayatollah Dobson needs to declare a jihad on an elected president, just because he's just a front for the GOP and not really a Christian. Fuckin' nujobs, also.

Obama is the worst thing imaginable for right wing fear mongers. An intelligent popular centrist black man with a mandate as POTUS. I suspect right wing whining will get considerably worse in the weeks and months to come.

"centrist" - You must be joking. He's at least as far left as W is to the right.

MODER8

I say let's give the right wing nuts Idaho and let them all move there. Lots of lunatics, guns, and shit to shoot.

""centrist" - You must be joking. He's at least as far left as W is to the right."

You must be joking. Obama is in the middle of the middle of the middle. By European standards he would be considered right-of-center.

"As far as political positioning goes, his [Obama's] strategy seems to be to appear as a sort of ideological Universalist, one who spends a great deal of rhetorical energy showing that he recognizes the validity of all points of view, and conversely emphasizes that when he does take hard positions on issues, he often does so reluctantly. He is a black man from Chicago who gets away with praising Ronald Reagan, which is not an easy task. His political ideal is basically a rehash of the Blair-Clinton "third way" deal, an amalgam of Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton and the New Deal; he is aiming for the middle of the middle of the middle."

"You must be joking. Obama is in the middle of the middle of the middle. By European standards he would be considered right-of-center."

He voted to the left of the left of the left in Senate. I'm not interested how he would be judged by European Standards. He's only (allegedly) aiming for the middle because he knows he has to. I'll believe he's a centrist when his actions prove it. Until then, It's all talk.

"He voted to the left of the left of the left in Senate. "

That's the bullshit from the National Journal, loser.

Boy, You lefties really need to read the "mailing" it is comparing the "seige' that the Christian fundamentalist and their views are under to the type of seige the british were under during the london Blitz. How do you get out of that that they were calling the Obama;'s nazi's...again, you lefites have so watered down the term "Hitler" and "Nazis" and their true monstrocity to just mean someone who doesn't want to give Homo's a marriage license, or doesn't want to raise the minimum wage

BTW

"Ayatollah" Dobson?..

Okay, that was funny

"That's the bullshit from the National Journal, loser."

I see. Alternet is a much more ideologically nuetral organization than the National Journal, which ranks Senators in terms of both most liberal and most conservative? Why don't you check out full voting records online at the Washington Post? I know why. Because when you don't agree with people, you flippantly resort to dismissing their arguments as "bullshit" and resort to petty name-calling. It's not like I'm calling him a Nazi, I'm just calling him a liberal.

Would you agree that there is some hypocrisy in all this outrage by the left?

#12 | Posted by sawdust

Yes.

"So?"

This Dobson clown is the same man who sends out his people to intimidate and if necessary, trash and burn gay clubs in rural areas.

A real piece of shit.

For now the Middle is ascendant. Finally someone will be back in the White House who represents regular middle class Americans, - not just the bible thumpers and the millionaires.

"For now the Middle is ascendant. Finally someone will be back in the White House who represents regular middle class Americans, - not just the bible thumpers and the millionaires."

I hope so.

When the extreme right wing media is simultaneously labeling Obama a "communist" and a "nazi", it gives rise to the hope that we have actually elected a winner for a change.

When the extreme right wing media is simultaneously labeling Obama a "communist" and a "nazi", it gives rise to the hope that we have actually elected a winner for a change.

If some of the right labels Obama a Nazi and this makes him a winner, then Bush must've been one too since some of the left gave him the same label.

The Nazi thing was well-worn by 2005. So many lefties were calling Bush a "Nazi" that the term has lost any shock values whatsoever.

Once again Goatman misses the point. The fact is that rightwingers are so bemused they are calling him opposites in the same sentence.

When Obama invades a country that was no threat to him, then the Nazi label can be applied.

Would you agree that there is some hypocrisy in all this outrage by the left?

#12 | Posted by sawdust

No. Bush has earned his Nazi label. Obama has done nothing to be labeled a Nazi.

No, M8, it is you who missed the point. My point was "What's good for the goose is good for the gander". You apparently don't think so. What a surprise. You've often displayed your propensity for double standards. This is just yet another example.

BTW, Focus on the Family is not a media outlet as you characterize them.

When the extreme right wing media...

They are a far right wing wacko organization, but are not media.

Glad to correct that for you.

No. Bush has earned his Nazi label.

Looks like someone failed mid-20th century world history.

Goatman, how was your butt feeling Wednesday morning? Sorry we ran out of KY Jelly sometime about 9 pm.

So many lefties were calling Bush a "Nazi" that the term has lost any shock values whatsoever.

Excellent point. I've always said that if I was a concentration camp survivor, I'd be insulted to have my tribulations trivialized in the manner that the left did by calling Bush (or anyone else for that matter) a Nazi.

If you think Bush or Obama is a Nazi, find one of the few holocaust survivors with a number tattooed on their arm and ask their opinion. They are much better informed than you are.

Goatman, how was your butt feeling Wednesday morning?

Which Wednseday? Last Wednesday? I was elated that democracy is still alive and well and ran its due course. Why would I have felt otherwise? I never endorsed either candidate during the entire campaign. I still think they are both idiots as I did from the beginning.

Did you get inflicted with null-brain's disease?

Sorry we ran out of KY Jelly sometime about 9 pm.

???

I really don't need to hear about you running out of KY or why, M8. Keep your private bedroom life private, please.

When Obama invades a country that was no threat to him, then the Nazi label can be applied.

Invading a country does not make one a Nazi. May I recommend some history books on 1933-1945 Germany so that you may be better informed on what Nazism is, bOoB?

#68 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-08 11:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Loooooooooser

68 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-08 11:52 PM | Reply | Flag: Loooooooooser

How original. Were you so impressed by da bOoB's mindless cut and paste jobs that you decided to take up brainless repitition, too? Apparently so seeing you do the "Flag: Loser" thing over and over and over and over ad nauseum.

Please -- I don't mind someone making attempts to insult me, but use a little gray matter when doing it is all I ask.

Simple things for simple minds. Glad you can so easily amuse yourself null-brain.

"I don't remember Bush being vilified before he took office and on Sept.12, 2001 everyone in the country respected him."

Let me help you.......

"Hitler and Bush; Stalin and Bush's Conservative Reform Movement; The GOP of 1936 and Today's Dirty Politics"

"This article first appeared in Democrats.com in July, 2001

BUSH AND HITLER: Is History Repeating Itself?"

Still around, Nullifdian? The loser tag makes me cry into my pillow. I hope you have better luck making arguments in the future.

"Simple things for simple minds. Glad you can so easily amuse yourself null-brain.

#71 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-09 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag: Looooooooooooser

"Still around, Nullifdian? The loser tag makes me cry into my pillow."

I'm sure it does, dumbshit.

Invading a country does not make one a Nazi. May I recommend some history books on 1933-1945 Germany so that you may be better informed on what Nazism is, bOoB?

#69 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-09 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag

I never said invading a country makes you a Nazi dUmmY. I said invading a country that was no threat to you makes you a Nazi.

As usual, your reading comprehension fails after 4 words in the sentence.

Sad.

#73 | Posted by MARTINX at 2008-11-09 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag: As Intelligent as Jim Dobson

. I said invading a country that was no threat to you makes you a Nazi.

May I suggest some history books? Nazism is much more than invading a country, threat or no threat. There are tons of literature out there than help you understand, bOoB.

I don't think anyone would call Sadam Hussein a Nazi. I don't think anyone would classify the former USSR as Nazis. The Japanese were not Nazis. None of the colonial powers of the 18th or 19th centuries were Nazis.

But you need to educate yourself what a Nazi is by reading some books. I can't do everything for you, bOoB.

"I'm sure it does, dumbshit"

I won't even say it.

I had thought you had gone to sleep, forever sure of yourself. More petty name-calling from the intellectual lightweight that is Nullifdian. I hate to make enemies so quickly, but the low hanging fruit is so delicious, and it feels so good to make sport of you.
Let me make this clear: respond to the argument above to keep the thread going.

#79 | Posted by MARTINX at 2008-11-09 12:49 AM | Reply | Flag: Sore Loser

I don't think

#78 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-09 12:44 AM | Reply

For once you are correct.

I don't think

#78 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-09 12:44 AM | Reply

For once you are correct.a

*yawn*

The old "take some words out of context" retort.

How clever. How do you do it, bOoB? And not only once, but over and over. I'm so impressed!

Here it is Nullifdian:

"I see. Alternet is a much more ideologically nuetral organization than the National Journal, which ranks Senators in terms of both most liberal and most conservative? Why don't you check out full voting records online at the Washington Post? I know why. Because when you don't agree with people, you flippantly resort to dismissing their arguments as "bullshit" and resort to petty name-calling. It's not like I'm calling him a Nazi, I'm just calling him a liberal."

Maybe you'd like to comment?

"Maybe you'd like to comment?"

About what? Your unsourced quote? Try attribution. It's a good thing.

I hate to say it, but you have consistantly ducked my arguments and have not retorted by any means other than calling me a "dumbshit" and a "loser". You are a simplelton, and there is no way to educate you. I'm sorry you don't like digging holes for a living, but this is all we have for you right now.

Still waiting for you to provide attribution to your quote.

I can't drag your ass to google. I can't drag you back to reality. "Your unsourced quote"? Any idiot can review the National Journal and see that they rank both most conservative abd most liberal senators by vote. Any idiot (including you) can google "Washington Post" and review the voting records of any member of Congress if they wish. The problem is that you stayed in school for far too long. You should have graduated in tenth grade, before you began slowing the overall progress of the class.

Still waiting for you to source that quote. Can't do it? That makes you not only a loser, but a dishonest loser as well. Sorry.

What quote, Nully (if I may respectfully call you that). What is the magical "quote" you are waiting for? Find any record of Congressional voting records and peruse at your will. The National Journal reports on the most liberal and conservative senators.

'Still waiting for you to source that quote. Can't do it? That makes you not only a loser, but a dishonest loser as well. Sorry.'

Perhaps you are too "unintellectual" to review previous documents?

You should have been culled from high school, friend.

"The National Journal reports on the most liberal and conservative senators."

You're joking, right? Didn't it strike you as odd that four years ago, John Kerry was labeled "the most liberal", and this year it was Barack Obama? D'ya think they never heard of Russ Feingold?

It seems the metric they use is
a) decide who they want to label as "most liberal". The nominee usually will do.
b) call every one of their votes a "liberal vote"
c) Voila!

Regarding b), one of the votes which made Obama more "liberal" than Hillary was when he agreed with...get this...McCain!

How clever. How do you do it, bOoB? And not only once, but over and over. I'm so impressed!

#82 | Posted by goatman at 2008-11-09 12:56 AM | Reply

I learned from you dUmmY. Take a look at your 12:03 post.

I learned from you dUmmY. Take a look at your 12:03 post.

???

I never realized how fucking awful it must be not having the ability to embrace reality until I started reading your posts, bOoB. For over a year I've seen the fantasy world you live in. I used to shake my head in disgust, but once I realized it wasn't an act, I do it in pity.

Goatman

Then don't take my words out of contest dUmmY.

Anyone can see that you wrote the whole sentence then ignored half of it.

Have you checked for that tumor yet? I know you have insurance---don't wait till it's too late.

Goatman

What do you see?

a black smudge on the moon is what I see.

What do you see?

www.youtube.com

Yet another idiotic link to youtube.com. duh

... gay clubs in rural areas.

I'm surprised such a thing exists.

Obama is in the middle of the middle of the middle.

Good one. LOL & FF

It's all about Roe v Wade, folks ~ ROE V. WADE!

Focus On Family (i.e. James Dobson) wants to control the reproductive rights of women.

Obama now has control of who get's appointed to the Supreme Court and that sends Dobson's dream of overturning Roe v Wade straight down the porcelain vortex.

I seem to recall that Hitler also had some wacked out idea that he should be the arbitor of such matters.

I'd say that Dobson is the one with the Hitler-esq ideas.

What's it called when someone accuses others of the thing they're most quilty of themselves?

Focus On Family (i.e. James Dobson) wants to control the reproductive rights of women.

I'm not that familiar with the group, but if he feels the same as other anti-abortionists, I think his concern is with the unborn child and has nothing to do with interfering with the mother's choice of whether or not to practice birth control.

Obama now has control of who get's appointed to the Supreme Court

The Justices most likely to be replaced next are the liberal ones, so the balance of the court is very unlikely to change during Obama's presidency.

GOATMAN

The Justices most likely to be replaced next are the liberal ones, so the balance of the court is very unlikely to change during Obama's presidency."

Which is exactly my point. Thank you.

It's also what has Dobson chewing nails right now.

It's also what has Dobson chewing nails right now.

I think he would be more worried if it were the conservative judges most likely to be replaced. That was my point.

GOATMAN

Dobson had his heart set on McCain replacing those "liberal judges" with conservative judges and tilting the balance of power more to his liking.

Dobson is a control freak - grander in scope but otherwise no different than Jim Jones ~ but without the banana plantation.

I seriously doubt that he gives a hoot about children, born or unborn. He has a cash cow of like-minded followers and doesn't mind a little biblical rationalization (i.e. Ted Haggard) now and then as long as it keeps the cash flowing.

And yes, I know. Haggard was eventually expelled.
But Dobson was kicking and screaming until he finally had to bow to media pressure to save his own unholy arse.

TWIN, I would agree that Dobson is a control freak. As are most religious leaders. They want to tell others how to live their lives. I grew up in the type of church that Dobson would endorse, or more accuratly endorsed Dobson. I am not as cynical as you, I believe Dobson is sincere in his belief and his desire to "help" others be better.

I however have a different view of the control thing. I believe that everyone is responsible for their own lives. I am not responsible for your behavior and you are not responsible for mine.

In the end, if God is who they (we) think He is, then He will sort all this out and He will hold each of us accountable for their behaviors. If you believe that God does not endorse a gay lifestyle, then don't do it. We do not need laws to force others to live our way. It is their choice. In fact, I believe God does not force us to do anything. He invented free will and wants us to obey him out of our own free will, not because we were forced to do so.

Well said SAWDUST

As for me, I just don't think anyone has a "devined authority" and I thoroughly resent the fact that these evangelicals don't police their own ~ presumably because if one gets a black eye, they all suffer a loss of coffers.

I try to live by the Ten Commandments, which I consider a great set of common sense rules, and I apologize if one slips past me. From what you say, I assume you feel the same way.

I don't believe in the hellfire and brimstone that Dobson and his kind use to scare people into subjugation ~ while he lightens their wallets along the way.

I don't believe there's some guy in red leotards and cloven hoofs, just waiting for my arrival so he can roast me over a spittle somewhere in the center of the earth.

That's for the weak minded Dobson followers who can't decide whether their God is a just God or a vengeful God. Personally, I have no such doubts.

I missed the part where they compared Obama to Nazis. They used a wartime reference and a Churchillian quote, but didn't say Obama was a Nazi.

Godalmighty, you libs are pussies.

........why is their tax exemption not revoked ?....

#15 | Posted by skizziks at 2008-11-08 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Because, according to their web site...

What is Focus on the Family Action?

Focus on the Family Action is a cultural action organization that is completely separate from Focus on the Family, legally. It has been created by separating out of Focus on the Family those activities which constitute lobbying under the IRS code so that they can be expanded in scope.

I sincerely hope the new administration and Congress are able to resolve the financial crisis and other major issues we face. It will be interesting to read the comments here if they don't.

This Nazis/Hitler stuff is very boring. We need to start comparing to Oliver Cromwell and Pol Pot!

If you are for abortion then being compared to Hitler is nothing.

Put the right people in charge and all those doctors and teenage girls could be facing murder charges and the death penalty.

What if Bush pardons those people who put bombs in Planned Parenthood? You should see his list already, Google it.

Point is, why would you support or wash your hands of it like Pontius Pilot when MANY people think your murderer.

Just don't support it, women will still have choices before pregnancy.

"He is trying to force our children into his Marxist civilian army. Hitler did this"

Well, at least it is official. Hitler was a Marxist.

"...his Marxist civilian army."

Laugh or cry?
Cry or laugh?
You guys are going to be such a hoot to watch for the next eight-plus years.

"Laugh or cry?" - Doc S

Neither, it's a chance to sign up on the ground floor and to grow with the opportunity.

"He is trying to force our children into his Marxist civilian army."

"Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year," the site announced.

Hans

"Neither, it's a chance to sign up on the ground floor and to grow with the opportunity."

LOL!

Hans

"Neither, it's a chance to sign up on the ground floor and to grow with the opportunity."

First time I've heard the abyss described as "the ground floor."

It'll certainly be a "learning opportunity."

"First time I've heard the abyss described as "the ground floor."

You've never been in a civilian army of children, have you Doc. Try it, it'll make you into a real man!

Naturalborn-
I don't recall that Hitler had a "Marxist civilian army", dumbass.

Naturalborn-
You are a clueless retard for saying that Hitler had a "Marxist" anything, dumbass.

"Your language is really bad and shows a lack of intelligence. You should work on that. en.wikipedia.org"

Your link was wrong. I fixed it for you:

LOL, Hans.

Who cares whom a source votes as "most liberal"? That's my point. If I call anybody a liberal, they backtrack and attack the methods used. Isn't "liberal" as much of a dirty word as "conservative"? I know you are not joking Danforth, but Nully is a real joke.

... but Nully is a real joke.

As I've said before, I don't dogpile, so I hesitate submitting this post, but you really do have to see the show he put on in the "Clinton" thread just in the last couple of hours. It is one of his best (as in pathetically best) performances I've ever seen him put on. He was caught in obvious lies and floundered in his vain ham-handed attempts to convince everyone of his intellectual superiority. Of course lacking integrity, he never admitted he lied through his teeth (fingers?) though it was clear to any reader. It really was funny to be a participant, though I do have self-regrets for allowing myself to descend to his level.

I have a question for those of you on the left. Saul Alinsky was Barack Obama's mentor. He wrote a book called Rules for Radicals which he dedicated to Satan.

How could Barack who professes to be a christian ever listen to or follow such a sick evil mind?

" I know you are not joking Danforth, but Nully is a real joke.

#125 | Posted by MARTINX at 2008-11-09 11:00 PM "

Awwwwww. Another rightwing loser. I'm sure you'll find a friend in GoatLoser.

"As I've said before, I don't dogpile, so I hesitate submitting this post,"

Yeah, right, Goatloser "hesitates" in submitting this post. Hahahahaha. What a phony.

Yeah, right, Goatloser "hesitates" in submitting this post. Hahahahaha. What a phony.

-- Nullifidian

I see we're now gearing up for Round 2. LOL!

What a phony.

As a self-proven liar, you could not have given me a better compliment.

Still waiting for either the proof of your statements or an admission that you are a liar.

(Chuckles from the gallery)

"As a self-proven liar, you could not have given me a better compliment."

I haven't lied about anything, loser.

Who did you vote for, Goatloser?

Popcorn's ready.

Towels and water bottles put in corners ....

I haven't lied about anything, loser.

LOL The lying to cover up more lies continues. This is truly surreal.

If you haven't lied about anything, please produce the post where I called myself a bleeding heart liberal as you said I did.

Goatman, the self-described "bleeding heart liberal,"

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:16 PM

You crack me up, nully. I don't think I've seen such denial since my son was 4 years old.

Who did you vote for, Goatloser?

While you are at it, please produce one post where I said I preferred Bush (or whatever inflection you want to put on his name -- 43, W, whatever. One post. That's all. If you can't come up with one, you are a liar .

"I preferred Bushites? Where did you come up with that. "

Gee, I don't know. Your posts???

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:17 PM |

Nullly, it's just a myth that if you keep repeating people will believe you. If you were told otherwise, you were duped. But what a surprise, huh? LOL

Who did you vote for, Goatloser?

Sorry -- it's quid pro quo with me, nullintegrity. I asked you to produce a post to prove either of your two lies. You do that, then it will be my turn.

Or I'll aceept an admission that you are a liar, then I will answer your question.

Quid pro quo, nulliar

"Quid pro quo, nulliar"

Translation: I won't answer that question.

"While you are at it, please produce one post where I said I preferred Bush (or whatever inflection you want to put on his name -- 43, W, whatever. One post. That's all. If you can't come up with one, you are a liar . "

I never said that you "preferred Bush" liar.

Translation: I won't answer that question

You almost got it right. "I won't answer the question until you answer mine". Not bad for a liar (they have been proven by psychologists to generally be less intelligent than the general population)

Or are you like bOoB in that you feel you don't need to answer other's questions, but you can admonish those who don't answer yours? Of course you are. You aree special. You get to play by different rules. You are the king of double standards.

Here it the question is again. Answer it and I'll answer yours:

Where is the post where I say that I am a bleeding heart liberal?

Quid pro quo, nulliar

Oh shit, I got stuck in one of those mindless Goatman-Bob style debates. Sorry, folks.

It's obvious why Goatman is too cowardly to admit to who he voted for.

later

I never said that you "preferred Bush" liar.

What stupid games. No, you didn't verbatim. But when asked where the notion that I preferred Bush came up, you said my posts.

As I said, it's fun to watch you flounder and clutch at straws. I hope you are decieving yourself because those of us with a brain know better. And liars are usually content as long as they have themselves convinced of their own lies.

But I still want to know where the post is where I call myself a bleeding heart liberal, nulliar

Goatman, the self-described "bleeding heart liberal,"

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:16 PM

Here's some help: "self-described" means I called myself that. I want to know where I did that? PS, lest your tiny little brain becomes confused on the issue, I am not my co-workers. Hope this helps.

Well, liar?

It's obvious why Goatman is too cowardly to admit to who he voted for.

It's obvious that nulliar is a pathological liar who lacks the personal integrity to admit he is one. That is a lot worse than not disclosing your secret ballot. LOL

It's also obvious that nullandvoid believes in double standards that favor him and he does not feel he has to behave in the manner he expects other to. What do you expect from someone with no integrity, though?

Why won't you admit you are a liar, nulliar or tell me where the post is where I label myself a bleeding heart liberal?

A: Because you are a coward. LOL

Ayatollah Dobson - FFS, laughing so hard it makes typing difficult, which really sucks, since Zat was talking shit about Michigan spelling, and I don't want to contribute to making us a stereotype.

Michigan got driven into the ground by our previous governor. In the spirit of bipartisanship, I'll call our current one a fucking idiot, and mention that it's a very bad thing I saw her on Obama's list of financial advisors and whatnot. I'm all for liberal programs, hell, I'm actually more of a socialist than anything, but you still have to balance the budget and not drive out business first, before you start spending on even worthwhile programs. She has a good set of goals, but sadly, no idea how to get there.

Finally, Null, I thinks it's safe to say you're going to get some pointless attacks and not one coherent answer. Good luck with that whole thing.

"Enthralled DR audience"

Pretty funny, Chris. Notice that Goatloser felt compelled to post 3 more times after my last post. That's Goatman-Bob style for you. That says it all.

later

translation:

"Fuck, I wish goatman would forget those lies I told. My feet are getting too close to the fire. I'm going to tuck tail and leave for now. But I'll be back later and hopefully he will have forgotten and not press the issue anymore. I'll deflect by accusing him of not admitting who he voted for."

Right, nullbrain?

LOL

"Finally, Null, I thinks it's safe to say you're going to get some pointless attacks and not one coherent answer. Good luck with that whole thing."

Lot of rightwing dumbshits here, that's for sure.

Notice that Goatloser felt compelled to post 3 more times after my last post.

What are my alternatives to try to get you to tell me where the post is that I call myself a bleeding heart liberal? You keep avoiding my question, so I know of no other way to get you to answer, coward.

So, where is that post? Or did you just lie?

We all know you just lied but we want to see if you are man enough to admit it. So far, no.

Correction, Chris. GoatLoser has now posted 5 times since I last addressed him. It looks like OCD to me, but it's not surprising to those of us who have had to scroll past his mindless debates with Bob.

GoatLoser has now posted 5 times since I last addressed him

Translation:

"Even I recognize this is a really, really weak deflection, but I am at a complete loss as to how to continue avoiding the fact that I lied three times about Goatman tonight and I am running out of options. He just won't let up."

Hey, nulliar -- just admit you are a liar. That's resolve my multiple post issue in a second!

6 times, Chris. Goatman really needs help with his OCD.

that deflection has been used. Maybe you should fall back on something else -- maybe like "flag:loser". (btw, how many times have you done that one? More than 6? LOL)

your turn, liar.

Oh, well -- I've made my point. You are a pathological liar. Furthermore, as an added and unexpected bonus, you have trotted out your delusions thinking that deflections to whom I voted would negate your lies. That was indeed worth sticking around for.

But quite frankly, I'm really getting embarrassed for you. Since I am the source of your embarrassment by rubbing your nose in all your lies, I've decided to stop.

But do continue your floundering in your pitiful attempts to redeem yourself from your lies. If anyone else pops by this thread, I'm sure they'll be amused as the rest of us have been this evening.

Have fun, little nullyliar.

For those latecomers, I'll post one more -- a synpopsis if you will of the nullbrain's latest whoppers. Enjoy watching null flop on the deck as he does anything except produce evidence that he is being truthful. It's a riot.

"I preferred Bushites? Where did you come up with that. "
Gee, I don't know. Your posts???
Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:17 PM

None of my posts indicate I preferred Bushites. Yet you said they did. That makes you a liar.

Can anyone out there figure out Goatman logic?:
I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, but my coworkers think I am, so therefore I am, or am not, depending on my mood, or who I am arguing with, or if I am defending myself against charges that I'm a rightwinger, or not, or whatever.
Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:54 PM

That entire quote is 100% from you -- the first part is a repeat of your logic (see post #45) and the rest you completely fabricated, yet you call it "Goatman logic" even though none of it is attributable to me. That makes you a liar.

Goatman, the self-described "bleeding heart liberal," is as literal as a 5 year old, when it comes to bashing "bleeding heart liberals."
Posted by nullifidian at 2008-11-09 09:16 PM |

You say I describe myself as a bleeding heart liberal. I have never described myself as a liberal of any type, yet you say I did. That makes you a liar.

And that's just tonight -- the latest in a string of prevarications from you.

Showtime, nully! LOL

"For those latecomers, I'll post one more -- a synpopsis if you will of the nullbrain's latest whoppers. "

And the Drudge Retort breathlessly awaits Goatman's expose! Hahahahaha. What a fucking drama queen.

What a fucking drama queen.

Translation: "Will this be the one? Please, god, let this be the deflection that steers the spotlight off of my lies and anywhere else. I just cannot bring myself to admit I am a liar no matter how weak my deflections are"

LOL, liar. Your lack of cajones cracks me up. Anyone else would've admitted they were wrong by now, and even a few with enough integrity would have apologized. But not our nully! Just like the four year old with his had caught squarely in the cookie jar, he will try anything to take attention away from the fact that he is wrong -- in this case a liar. Such a pathos, I've never seen in an adult.

I missed the part where they compared Obama to Nazis. They used a wartime reference and a Churchillian quote, but didn't say Obama was a Nazi.

Godalmighty, you libs are pussies.

#106 | Posted by rightisright

I was about to make a similar observation.

I have no use for FOF or Dobson but using this article to claim that they are comparing President-elect Obama to Nazis or Hitler is a hell of a stretch.

Quoting and agreeing with rightisright is quite difficult but 'Truth will Out'

You say I describe myself as a bleeding heart liberal. I have never described myself as a liberal of any type, yet you say I did. That makes you a liar.

Actually, you said the guys you work with think you're a bleeding heart liberal. ie you're very far to the left of them.

That's what nulli is quoting.

well of course I dont agree with this
EXCEPT that I remember all the little children in the matching shirts singing theier little songs of praise..........NOT to the country or religion but to one man who was a presidential candidate

and I also remember and continue to see the liberal facism that grows almost every day....

and it DOES make one wonder.......well Only if you werent duped into obammania and have that "tranced" look on your face

BL2

When I scroll past your posts, I picture your retired butt sitting in front of your computer saying, "What the hell. It's 12 O'clock somewhere. Bottoms up!"

Like this:

There's a new special interest group: Christian Fascists.

AU........you should rather 'see' me reading newspapers online, watching tv political shows such as cspan, cnn, listening to npr and watching and reading liberal things probably more than conservative shows because they are more rich with material for

THE LIBERAL HYPROCISY HISTORICAL MOMENTS.........

todays edition COMING SOON on a thread near you

AND YOU could actully 'see' me practicing some now

after all these years, MY trumpet has COME OUT OF THE CLOSET......LOL

MY trumpet has COME OUT OF THE CLOSET......LOL

BL2

Did it grow a big San Francisco handlebar mustache? LOL

Seriously, glad to hear you're getting your chops up.

I watch C-SPAN and read MSM online. Years ago I got tired of people telling me what I'm about to see, telling me what I saw, and then discussing what they think the person just said. Talking heads don't interest me from either side of the aisle.

I want factual information, not opinions. I'd prefer to form my own. That's just how I roll.

Although I will admit to watching Olbermann once in awhile on YouTube bash Bush when he's deserved it.

At least the dems are getting a taste of how absolutely frustrating it is for your guy to be compared to Hitler. I say you deserve every second of it.

Comparing people to Hitler simply because you don't agree with them is a mark of retardation.

"But people called Bush Hitler too!" the tard apologists shriek.

Bush is nothing like Hitler. Hitler was a decent military mind.

How does that make Focus on Family any less assinine with their comparison?

THREAD SUMMARY:

-Obama is related to Hitler
-Null Set is a liar
-American Unitard is an "independent thinker"

Focus on the family is right. The liberal Democrats attack God, religion, the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, abortion and the list goes on.

I find it interesting that Obama says he is against gay marriage (lied just to get votes) but opposed Prop. 8 in California which California voters approved to the banning of gay marriage. Makes no sense taking both sides of an issue for political expediency. Obama is a true political scumbag. He is no different than any other old school politician except he lies better.

The liberal Democrats attack the "conservative imposition of God," not God. The liberal Democrats attack the "conservative imposition of marriage as valid only by a man and a woman who chose to be heterosexual," not the sanctity of marriage. The liberal Democrats attack the "conservative imposition on a woman's body," not abortion. The liberal Democrats attack "conservative imposition." The list goes on.

But the essence of what Liberal Democrats really attack is conservative hypocrisy. Look, if you want to call yourself a conservative, you'll need to realize it's more than putting a halt to fiscal irresponsibility. You won't be a real conservative until you STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY STATE'S CONCERNS. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY CHURCH. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY MARRIAGE. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY BODY. STOP OVERTURNING OUR LEGAL RIGHTS. And we'll all get along just fine.

"The liberal Democrats attack God, religion, the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, abortion and the list goes on."

Actually, the problem is people like you who put it upon yourselves to speak for God. When God puts a halo around your head, we'll believe you are the Chosen One. Until then, shut the fuck up already. You people are insufferable.

"Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year," the site announced.

Works for me.

Hans

#112 | Posted by Hans

Maybe that's because you aren't in college or high school. I know if I were I would be highly pissed off with a government telling me to do community service. THIS is facist not anything Bush has done.

Obama wants to REQUIRE community service? Sounds a little like forced labor or SLAVERY. I guess since Obama's black father was born in Africa this turd of a president-elect does not grasp the historical significance of Americans being forced into free labor against their will. Obama is indeed Satan.

Forced labor. The real fascist here is Obama not Bush or anyone on the right.

This kind of fundraising propoganda from Focus on the Family is business as usual for them:

Yeah, right. I guess since Bush was born with a silver spoon his mouth this turd of a soon-to-be-ex-president can't grasp the future significance that your great-grandchildren are now indentured to the national debt -- against their will.

Bush is indeed Satan.

Black people will soon be living in the White House. Barbara must be rolling in her grave.

"Obama wants to REQUIRE community service? Sounds a little like forced labor or SLAVERY."

Utah Staff, the only black Mormon in Salt Lake City, seems to forget that not too long ago we had a military draft, and his ilk thought it was the bee's knees in protecting our land from slavery. herm

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY STATE'S CONCERNS. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY CHURCH. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY MARRIAGE. STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY BODY. STOP OVERTURNING OUR LEGAL RIGHTS. And we'll all get along just fine.

You forgot:

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY WALLET.

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY WALLET.

You're right, but then again Hank's printing so much more these days, you won't notice. What's a few trillion among trolls.

"Hank's printing so much more these days, you won't notice. "

Oh yes you will....