Bwhahahahahaha it's got to suck to be THAT desperate to vote for McCain and don't kid Yourself You ARE voting for McCain when You select His name on the ballot. You must really hate AMerica to do such a thing.

Larry

"You must really hate AMerica to do such a thing."

Now Larry, that just isn't fair.

Everyone feels as passionately about their choice of canidate as you do, it doesn't mean they hate America.

Now Larry, that just isn't fair.

Everyone feels as passionately about their choice of canidate as you do, it doesn't mean they hate America.

Posted by Lisa at 2008-11-03 11:57 AM | Reply

How isn't it Fair. You have to look at how the candidates have behaved and ask Yourself who had the Country's interests fiorst and foremost at heart. McCain has shown He has not by His actions so How could voting for Him be declared being Pro AMerican?? Please Lisa tell Me cause I REALLY want to know.

larry

Everyone feels as passionately about their choice of canidate as you do, it doesn't mean they hate America.

#2 | Posted by Lisa at 2008-11-03 11:57 AM |

True, but considering the conditions in which the last repub admin left the country, can it not suggest that they are mildly retarded?

There is the Keating thing. There is the Navy thing putting Himself before the Country's good First. The Choice of Sarah Palin do You honestly believe John McCain has AMerica first and foremost on His mind??

Larry

McCain I can do this I can do that
Obama WE Can do this WE Can do that.

Huge difference.

Larry,

There are obviously differing opinions on what's best for America. But that doesn't mean that one hates America and the other doesn't.

One of the reasons I won't vote for McCain is because he walked lockstep with Bush, stood behind him while he made horrific policies for this country...and only backed off the bandwagon once it suited his personal agenda, yet his own policies wouldn't be different than Bush's. I can't trust him to do what's best for this country. It's party before country with him and he's proven that.

However, that is my opinion and I certainly don't call anyone who doesn't agree with it, a hater of this country.

I guess this is one time where we agree that we disagree Lisa. Surprising because I 99% of the time go along with what the Women Say/Want. Strange territory.

Larry

You need to be true to what you believe Larry..not what someone else thinks.

There's nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

If you consider the 10.5 trillion dollar debt it does seem that one cannot both love America and vote for John McCain. They love the Republican Party more than their country. John McCain has not proposed one single thing to help repair any of the damage to our nation caused by Bush, he wants to actually give the wealthy more tax cuts and increase the debt. ONe would need to be pretty dumb to actually think that would be good for the country they claim to love.

One of the reasons I won't vote for McCain is because he walked lockstep with Bush, stood behind him while he made horrific policies for this country

~Luffly Lisa

Strewth.

As Obama sez, McCain likes to portray himself as a Maverick but the reality is that he was a sidekick.

Riding shotgun as Dumbya drove the American economy off a cliff.

Cheerleading on the sidelines as Bush launched a pre-emptive war against a country that was no threat.

His one tuff stand he took against Bush, oppposing his pro-torture policies, was later flip flopped on as McCain voted for the Military Commisions Act which essentially legalised torture.

including the big prizes of Florida and Ohio,

Is funny, Obama has spent so much time in both of these states that this morning in Jacksonville Florida Obama mistakenly sed "Ohio" when he meant to say "Florida".

He corrected himself immediately and made a joke about his travel schedule. The crowd responded well.

Both candidates are in Florida today. That state counts as more than just a big state with a large electoral vote, it is a symbol of where the country went wrong in 1999. Spud really hopes hopes FLA goes Obama tommorow. That would be just, apt, fitting and cathartic all at once.

McLame is on a 7 state desperation tour today. Trying in vain fer PA among other states which seem out of reach to him by this point.

The final nail in McBush's political coffin would be if AZ goes blue.

Spud duely notes that Joe Loserman is out on the campaign trail with Yawn McBush today.

The Dems need to stop allowing that guy on any commitees. He's dead weight by this point and his Israel first/America last bias has only become more and more pronounced over the years.

Anyhoo, is 29 hours and counting.

Spud prepares mass quantities of popcorn.

G08ama.

Be Well.

/Like he do
stage left.

"His one tuff stand he took against Bush, oppposing his pro-torture policies"

I guess you forgot that McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts, drafted the Climate Stewardship Act mandating huge cuts in greenhouse gas emissions with Lieberman, voted against Bush's energy bill in 2005, etc. etc. etc., blah blah blah. Just say whatever you want and pretend it's true.

I guess you forgot that McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts

The ones he now wants to make permanent, Joe?

And for the record, Mccadaver (Mr. I'm with Bush 90% of the time) accepted Bush's "I get to torture anyone I want " signing statement.

Do keep up.

"I guess you forgot that McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts"

One time out of five.

And he later lied about his reasons, and now embraces the same tax cuts he voted against.

"I'm with Bush 90% of the time)"

Oh, but that's just the average.

Over the last two years, it's been 95% and 100%. In other words, as the country has been moving further and further away from Bush, McCain has been moving closer and closer.

If anything McCain's flip flop on the tax cuts with the economy in melt down mode now just indicates that he has little regard for the welfare of average Americans.

Mcadaver was 3 points up on Obama in the middle of September-so much for his Bush excuse. If he loses it'll be because of a terrible selection in Palin, his erratic behavior over the bail-out and a lousy campaign.

If he had chosen Romney, he'd probably be winning. Then again, he chose Self over Country.

Tax cuts aren't the only thing McCain has broken away from Bush on. HMO reforms, the Kyoto protocol, gun control laws, and campaign finance reform to name a few. This is all in response to the Canadian retard's post that torture was McCain's only stand against Bush.

"Tax cuts aren't the only thing McCain has broken away from Bush on. "

Are you daft? He's walking lockstep with Bush on making the tax cuts permanent.

Ted Stevens redux.

Larry,

There are obviously differing opinions on what's best for America. But that doesn't mean that one hates America and the other doesn't.

One of the reasons I won't vote for McCain is because he walked lockstep with Bush, stood behind him while he made horrific policies for this country...and only backed off the bandwagon once it suited his personal agenda, yet his own policies wouldn't be different than Bush's. I can't trust him to do what's best for this country. It's party before country with him and he's proven that.

However, that is my opinion and I certainly don't call anyone who doesn't agree with it, a hater of this country.

#7 | Posted by Lisa

There are not enough words in the English language to express how much I agree with this. You're now my favorite poster.

for me, and admittedly I am not about to vote for a republican, but for me, Mccain lost my respect when he rolled over on the Torture bill, the military commissions act from September 2006. If there was ever a perfect spokesman he was it and that was the time. He got no substantive changes to the bill and all he did was grandstand a little.

failure and in this case inexcusable failure.

"If you consider the 10.5 trillion dollar debt it does seem that one cannot both love America and vote for John McCain. They love the Republican Party more than their country. John McCain has not proposed one single thing to help repair any of the damage to our nation caused by Bush, he wants to actually give the wealthy more tax cuts and increase the debt. ONe would need to be pretty dumb to actually think that would be good for the country they claim to love."

#10 | Posted by danni

Both candidates' policies would increase the national debt.

"Both candidates' policies would increase the national debt."

But only one wants to eliminate a tax which only affects multi-millionaires and billionaires, during two wars and the largest deficits known to man since the dawn of time.

"Are you daft?"

Are you? The point was that torture is not the only issue McCain has broken from Bush on, and I've mentioned many issues other than tax cuts.

Are you? The point was that torture is not the only issue McCain has broken from Bush on, and I've mentioned many issues other than tax cuts.

Posted by JOE at 2008-11-03 12:57 PM | Reply

Liar Liar Liar pants on Fire. If He broken from Bush on Torture why did He not sign onto a Ban on torture when it came up for a vote?? Actions speak louder than words.

larry

"If He broken from Bush on Torture"

Are you retarded? The canadian was the only person who said that Mccain broke from Bush on torture. My point is that there were other issues on which he broke from Bush, including HMO reform, campaign finance reform, global warming and energy policy.

" I've mentioned many issues other than tax cuts."

But "breaking with him" on tax cuts is hollow when he's now going steady with them.

I'm so sick of this damn election I can't wait for this shit to be over.

My point is that there were other issues on which he broke from Bush

Yeah, like becoming President.......

"But "breaking with him" on tax cuts is hollow"

And yet, the point remains, that there are more issues than "torture" on which McCain broke from Bush. You waste far too much time pretending you are dense so you can pick apart inconsequential matters.

"You waste far too much time pretending you are dense so you can pick apart inconsequential matters."

Still pissed I pointed out the difference between murder and manslaughter, Joe the Lawyer?

I guess you forgot that McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts, drafted the Climate Stewardship Act mandating huge cuts in greenhouse gas emissions with Lieberman, voted against Bush's energy bill in 2005, etc. etc. etc., blah blah blah. Just say whatever you want and pretend it's true.

#12 Posted by JOE

Wow, Joe musta overdosed on his 'tard pills this AM.

Here's the deal, ambulance chaser.

McCain likes to present that he is a "Maverick".

He voted with Bush 90% of the time and for 4 out of his 5 budgets.

The ten percent of the time that he was all "Mavericky" he has subsequently recanted on in his cynical bid to become satisfy his personal ambitions by becoming BushCo's biatch.

Yes, he voted against the ruinous BushCo tax cuts.

Now he wants to make them permanent.

Yes, he and Loserman drafted a feel-good anti-emissions Bill knowing full well that Dumbya was never gonna ratify Kyoto.

Yes, he voted against the 2005 Energy Bill that was drafted behind closed doors with BigOil at the table and Cheney serving tea.

Now, he's taken BigMoney from BigOil and suddenly gone all "Drill, Baby, Drill" on the campaign trail.

Obama, on the other hand, has not taken BigMoney from BigOil and after the slimy, corrupt War Criminal infested BushCo oiligarchy that's a beautiful and neccessary thing, methinks.

Almost the entirety of McSame's breaking with Bush has now been totally refutiated by his cynical transformation into McBush over the course of this campaign.

This is patently obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention.

Do at least try and keep up.

Spud sed his "one tuff stand" not meaning it was the only time he opposed Bush but that the "anti-torture" thing was a tuff sell to braindead and soul dead Rtards weaned on episodes of 24 and promised "double Gitmo's" by the other candidates at the GOP nom debates.

When McCain spoke out against torture at those debates all you could hear was the sound of crickets as opposed to the ravenous blood-thirsty howls of approval that the other candidate's pro-torture talk recieved.

Spud really hopes yer nit picking, deliberately obtuse debating style doesn't make it into the courtroom cos if so yer clients are screwed.

Clear?

G08ama!

Be Well.

"...cynical bid to become satisfy his personal ambitions by becoming BushCo's biatch."

Should read...

"...cynical bid to satisfy his personal ambitions by becoming BushCo's biatch."

Be Well.

"But only one wants to eliminate a tax which only affects multi-millionaires and billionaires, during two wars and the largest deficits known to man since the dawn of time."

#23 | Posted by Danforth

I'll sleep slightly better knowing that the deficit will be increased by only ~ $350 billion by 2013 instead of the ~ $450 billion proposed by McCain.

You cannot say both candidates have Americas best interests at heart when the Repub candidate and his abominable running mate were manufactured to star in the most cynical marketing ploy in political history. Wall Street, which Bush just finished deregulating in spit of the market chaos, tried to sell us a leadership package as if it were a package of breakfast cereal, all lipsticked in bright colors. herm

"Still pissed I pointed out the difference between murder and manslaughter"

Why would that bother me? I could explain that in my sleep. Funny that comes to your mind though, seeing as it was yet another example of you harping on the most meaningless part of a post. Keep up the good work, you're the biggest waste of time on this site.

"Funny that comes to your mind though, seeing as it was yet another example of you harping on the most meaningless part of a post."

Pointing out you purposely used a more grievous term for dramatic effect? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

"you're the biggest waste of time on this site."

There goes Joe the Lawyer again, letting hyperbole get the best of him.

"Wall Street, which Bush just finished deregulating..."

How so?

And if so? How'd he get congresses approval? hasn't it been a democrat majority since 2006?

The only marketing ploy has been the packaging of Obama.

As for the polls--Rasmussen shows 4 of 8 with McCain in the lead and the other 4 states are statistical ties with 7%-9% Undecided.

And with the one saying he wants the coal industry to go bankrupt with cap and trade--unbelievable. He may have just lost PA and OH predicatably.

This is going to be close--we'll know soon enough with the east coast closing and then the networks saying it is too close to call. It will be a long night if that occurs.

There are too many undecideds and can't trust the exit polls--they have been wrong for two cycles now.

Red states will stay red and blue states will stay blue. The difference is PA CO and NM. NH may be the upset for McCain.

I feel like I am at a closeout sale with all the well used Obamatools here.

"Keep up the good work, you're the biggest waste of time on this site.

#36 | Posted by JOE at 2008-11-03 01:40 PM | Reply "

Oh there's Joe the Mouth. Anytime he gets called on his baloney he doubles down on the hyperbole and bullshit.

Hey Joe, how many national offices will the Losertarian Party win tomorrow?

"how many national offices will the Losertarian Party win tomorrow?"

I've never said they had a chance to win. It's not my fault the majority of Americans are duped by the two-party system. Have fun wasting your vote on another corporate whore, whichever one you have chosen.

"Have fun wasting your vote on another corporate whore"

As if the Losertarians aren't corporate whores. They love deregulation and privatization even more than the Republicans.

Not that it matters, because they're looooooosers.

all lies. cindy mc can't slipped me the pills and now everything is gonna be okie dokie. yupp. "we got 'em right where we want them."

ttfn losers.

anyone seen that right wing bush loving limbaugh ass kissing whore bush lover II?

must be over at the gop motel 6 with a gun in her mouth.

pull baby, pull

ttfn gop losers.

Obama08............Yes we can.

BULLETIN: Dixville Notch and Hart's Location both go to Obama by big margins.

And these two, my friends, are for real. They count. herm