Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher, during an appearance for the McCain campaign in Columbus, Ohio, agreed with a voter's comment that "a vote for Barack Obama is a vote for the death to Israel."

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Good for you Shep!

It's a lead-pipe cinch.

I think he just pushed a minute over his 15.

When faced with such utter stupidity, even the most objective find it difficult not to speak out.

a lady at work today told me that if Obama is elected, he's gonna make everybody convert to Islam. I asked how can someone in america make someone convert to a different religion and she said she didn't know but her preacher told her that and he had it all worked out and presented it to the church as a 'religious' message.

I told her I was gonna report her church to the IRS and she wouldn't tell me which one it was. I wouldn't have reported them but I'll bet she'll think twich before spreading her stupidity again.

Lipz-you should've asked what church she goes to-THEN told her you were going to the IRS-that'd scare the crap outta her.

Does it feel to anyone else that Joe the Plumber has become McCain's new running buddy? Sarah Palin is so over, from all the quotes floating out of McCain insiders calling her a "diva" and a "whack job."

Stupidity like your co-Worker Lip is just that Stupidity.

JTP is not a Foreign policy Expert but he did voice his opinion, and it was just that his opinion.

I think Obama will bring about a degree of socialism to this country, the likes of which we have never seen before. Is that good for America, well for the ones that want a handout, yes its good for them.. the ones that have worked hard and earned the top money they make well probably not so good in their minds.

You will NEVER make a poor man rich by making a rich man poor... Redistribution of wealth is not the answer, education and placing the urgency to succeed in people is the solution. Simply giving someone something for nothing is not a way to pull people up and motivate them to advance. Why should they, they are already getting a benefit for doing nothing...

Timing is everything...oh...and location location location .

JTP sounds like a lot of the misinformed righties here at the DR.

Maybe he should stick to snaking shitters. And get around to paying his taxes.

Hey, moron Joe The Plumber wannabes --

The President you elected twice, screwed this country into a state of
wall-street welfare, the same dickweeds who wanted to put your social security into the market, the same flag waving anti-Americans who Joe the Plums Of Idiocy backed and wants to return to power.

JTP -- public enemy #2 of anyone with a love for this country.

Socialism? Marx? Wow, I've never heard so many ignorant twats throw those words around since Ike was in office. And back then, well at least there was a reason. Now? God, we really need mandated condoms for stupid white people.

JTP sounds like a concerned citizen that disagrees with the policies that Obama would like to enact should he become president.

He sounds a lot like you misguided lefties on this site only on the opposite side with regard to the issues at hand.

WOW Zilla, so the fact that the Democrats have had control of congress for 2 yrs, the fact that Congresses approval ratings are LESS than the presidents, and the FACTS that they sat as idol as the Republicans on the current economic situation means nothing huh.

ITS ALL Bushes Fault. Wow you are a MORON if you think the President has THAT much POWER!!!

JTP sounds like a concerned citizen that disagrees with the policies that Obama would like to enact should he become president.

~Army of Nuns

Actually, JtP sounds like an obvious GOP plant and a hack spewing right wingnut talking points w/o any regard fer truth wotsoever.

He was brought on board by the Palin faction.

He's a lying sack of shit who has already been discredited massively in the eyes of all but the most willfully ignorant, koolaid-addicted, blinkered, braindead sheeple on the right.

Basically, Folks like you, Army.

Be Well.

I told her I was gonna report her church to the IRS and she wouldn't tell me which one it was. I wouldn't have reported them but I'll bet she'll think twich before spreading her stupidity again.

#4 | Posted by Lipzoidial

LOL!!!!

I count 2 morons.

Trying to discredit Joe-the-Plumber is like Sarah Palin trying to play down the wardrobe accusations. She should just shut up about it.

It's better to not fight it.

The more attention you bring to Joe-the-plumber, the longer his outing of Obama as a Marxist will last.

Nevermind. Obama IS a marxist and will never shake it.

armyof1

if you continue to say that dems had control of congress

reminds me of your lack of knowledge of how the system works

a) no filibuster
b) president vetos

if the above exists
the power of congress is to lame duck the president

i think they were pretty damn successfull

bush bankrupted TWO oil companies

only bush can bankrupt TWO oil companies
and the most powerful nation in the world

Bush himself didn't do it
but he appointed a bunch of christian university grads who believed in dinosaurs on the arc and they destroyed the country

DICKlessSPUD!!!

Nice deflection with the personal attack.. Thought I repay the favor.

He ask a concerned question to a LIBERAL FUCKTARD that can only win by telling teh poor that its not their fault and that the RICH WHITE MAN is to blame. ONLY you liberal MORON fucknozzle, dochetard, idiots can't see it because you HATE Bush so bad you would vote for Kruchev or Putin right now just to get rid of BUSH...

Obama is not a bad person and he truthfully has what he feels as the best interest of the country at heart. He was ask a question by JTP and his answer turned his stomach. that doesnt mean he is a plant, it doest't mean he is anything other than a concerned citizen. You fucktards only crucified him because his QUESTION negativly affected your candidate. So why dont you ,instead, learn to read and examine both sides instead of spouting the left wing talking points, coupled with what the liberal press tells you to say and use your own brain...

Oh and next time, try staying on the facts...

Toledo Police have confirmed that a TPD records clerk is accused of performing an illegal search of information related to Joe the Plumber.'

Julie McConnell, has been charged with Gross Misconduct for allegedly making an improper inquiry into a state database in search of information pertaining to Samuel Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16.

Wurzelbacher came under the spotlight after being spoken about during the final presidential debate between Barack Obama and John McCain.

The inquiry into Wurzelbacher's record is a violation of department and state policy governing the use of the Law Enforcement Automated Data System. The clerk is under fire for making the inquiry for a non-law enforcement purpose.

McConnell was hired by the Toledo Police Department in April 1995 and assigned to the Investigative Services Bureau.

-outing of Obama as a Marxist

And they say this place isn't as funny as it used to be.

www.drudge.com

Keep up the good work, Mr Haskell.

education and placing the urgency to succeed in people is the solution.
#7 | Posted by armyof1

Cool, so tax the rich and put that money into the schools, sounds like a plan.
Or do you think Obama is literally going to take extra taxes and pay poor people directly?
Healthcare, education and infrastructure are not handouts, their a way to move us all up.

And BTW, all opinions are not equally valid. Opinions should be based on research and facts, not just pulled out of your ass.

the fact that the Democrats have had control of congress for 2 yrs,

~Army of dumb

Means sommat but so does the fact that Bush has been a veto-happy shitheel and the 50/50 Senate has been a bunch of filibustering rethug fools who have stymied all of the Dems attempts to do anything positive.

the fact that Congresses approval ratings are LESS than the presidents,

Reflects the fact that there is a certain core constituency of Rethugs who would "approve" of a Republican president's actions even if they involved sodomising a six year old child live on National TV before tearing the kids heart out and eating it. It also reflect the fact that the folks on the left who voted Dem hoping to see the War criminals Bush and Cheney behind bars are not best pleased by the action of Nancy "Impeachment is off the table" peLOUSY et al.

and the FACTS that they sat as idol as the Republicans on the current economic situation means nothing huh.

It's "idle" not "idol" and yes folks on both sides of the aisle are right to be pissed at their representatives fer caving in so quickly to the banking industry, basically rewarding them fer malfeasance and corporate criminality. This has engendered a real serious desire in folks to see deep and fundamental change in DC. Hence the mass rejection of McSame and a surge of support fer Obama.

Obama represents half a chance fer change and McCan't represents no chance at all.

ITS ALL Bushes Fault. Wow you are a MORON if you think the President has THAT much POWER!!!

An moronic absolutist argument from an absolute moron?

Quelle surprise!

If you don't know by now that Bush has always been Cheney's biatch, his meat puppet, his figurehead/facade then yer even stupider than Spud originally thought.

And Spud originally thought you were dumber than a box of hair.

Now Spud thinks yer dumber than a box of blonde hair who's never had an original thought in his life.

Be Well.

Kliff,

so if congress was so functional then they can overrule a veto with a majority vote and yes even a filibuster can be broken so nice try but Congress is a LAME duck and pathetic. They had just as much of a chance to fix or head off the econmic crisis and they did nothing. BOTH parties are culpable for the situation not just the Republicans.

Why do you libs call the man names? Attack his principles or statements but don't call him a bunch of names. That seems to be your answer for everything that you don't aggree with. Destroy your opponent by calling him everything you can think of.

Pot, kettle.

He ask a concerned question to a LIBERAL FUCKTARD that can only win by telling teh poor that its not their fault and that the RICH WHITE MAN is to blame. ONLY you liberal MORON fucknozzle, dochetard, idiots can't see it because you HATE Bush so bad you would vote for Kruchev or Putin right now just to get rid of BUSH...

~Army of Scum

Wow just wow.

Ya might wanna try wiping the flecks of foam from yer screen after that last incoherant rant.

Deep breaths now.

Spud would vote fer Putin to get rid of Bush?

How wrong can you be?

Spud can't vote fer either.

Spud's a Canadian.

Don't even haff a dawg in this hunt.

Purely neutral is Spud.

You know, kinda like the Swiss!

^_^

Be Well.

Bush himself didn't do it
but he appointed a bunch of christian university grads who believed in dinosaurs on the arc and they destroyed the country

#16 | Posted by klifferd

Klifferd,

Your response is either cynical or ignorant. A little of both.

Do you really think that Bush has the power to do this all by himself?

What happened to empeachment? I remember that the Democrats in Congress never had the balls to do anything about it.

so if congress was so functional then they can overrule a veto with a majority vote and yes even a filibuster can be broken so nice try but Congress is a LAME duck and pathetic.
#22 | Posted by armyof1

Do you know that Congress needs more than a simple majority to overrule a veto? You're only disproving your own point.
The fact that the Congress is 50/50 and not a real majority is a major factor why they're a "Lame Duck".

"the fact that the Democrats have had control of congress for 2 yrs"

Senate: 49R 49D 1I

It's a tie.

House: 233D 202R

233/435 = .535 < 2/3 = 0.666

Veto country.

The only fact here is that Army of Nuns is an idiot, a liar or both.

In other words, your precious Pubs are just as much, if not more of the problem in Congress, not just the Dems.

Means sommat but so does the fact that Bush has been a veto-happy shitheel and the 50/50 Senate has been a bunch of filibustering rethug fools who have stymied all of the Dems attempts to do anything positive.

By positive, do you mean giving 28-year-old children free health care?

Can you give examples of positive?

Positive, by my standards are:

- Ending the War
- Close ALL the bases around the world
- Nationalize the Federal Reserve

This is just a start!

It's "idle" not "idol"

Correct, spell check error but none the less my fault...

banking industry, basically rewarding them fer malfeasance and corporate criminality.

Really, and the issue of the collapse of the economic system isn't an issue huh.. - MORON!!!

Obama represents half a chance fer change and McCan't represents no chance at all.

Really a change for who you incompetent jackass. i fall into the middle class asshat. i make just over 135K a year. I have earned every penny. YES I will get a tax cut under Obama... But I would rather not get a tax cut then see him in office. YES he has Marxist ideas, his association with people who support those ideals helps to reinforce that thought.

If you were capable of thinking and seeing beyond your blind hatred of Bush you would understand that. But you probably stand to benefit from the policies that he is going to enact so instead of looking at the forest you are blinded by the tree in front of your dumbass...

And BTW, i am truly not concerned at you referring to me as dumb. Unlike you I am able to analyze the entire situation and see that both candidates have good and bad qualities. Both candidates have the best interest of the nation at heart. Both feel that they will lead this country to more prosperous times. The partisan matters, which Obama has never voted against his party, issue needs to be addressed. JUST HOW IS YOUR SAVIOR going to address this issue. Oh wait!!! he has Not said anything about it. He is betting that the hatred for Bush will give him an all democrat congress again so that he wont have to deal with it.

Why do you libs call the man names? Attack his principles or statements but don't call him a bunch of names. That seems to be your answer for everything that you don't aggree with. Destroy your opponent by calling him everything you can think of.

~Snippy the Wonder Puppy

Snippy, please.

Spud laces his postage with colorful, insult-based humour but that's just the frosting on the cake. The cake itself is well reasoned arguments. When Rtards like yerself respond it's usually with postage that ignores the arguments completely and goes straight to the insults.

When someone on the right makes a viable point then Spud is usually the first to give cred.

Here, watch this...

BOTH parties are culpable for the situation not just the Republicans

~Ao1

Agreed.

Nobody is arguing that both sides aren't culpable.

They both are.

That's an indisputable and demonstrable fact.

That sed, the right wing talking point that because the Dems took control of congress in '06 they are defacto responsible fer ALL of the ills of the last two years is patently untrue and completely unfair.

It is a disingenuous and intellectually dishonest argument that Spud will not let stand in blogworld.

Be Well.

/Did you see wot Spud did there?
//Agreed with wot was true and corrected the rest.
///That's how debate is supposed to go, btw.

I remember that the Democrats in Congress never had the balls to do anything about it.

You remember incorrectly.

The Democrats ran in 2006 on a platform that said they would NOT seek impeachment.

They were true to their word.

You should respect that.

If you were capable of thinking and seeing beyond your blind hatred of Bush you would understand that.

If Bush didn't deserve it, you might be on to something.

We all treid to tell you folks in 2000 and 2004 that he would harm this country.

We were right.

You were wrong.

It would be great if people like you understood that you don't know jack shit and shut your mouth.

The proof is in the White House man!

Joe the Plumber: the McCain campaign's very own "Sgt. William Schumann."

Joe, you dumb schmuck, go back to work and pay off that tax lein you owe the State of Ohio.

Manypaths, how did you escape exile?

...he appointed a bunch of christian university grads who believed in dinosaurs on the arc and they destroyed the country

~Klifferd

Do you really think that Bush has the power to do this all by himself?

~Eddie.

You do know all about Monica Goodling, the GOPher oppo researcher and graduate from a 3rd tier fundy law school who went on to be rewarded fer her efforts in the caging scandal of 2004 with the job of being Alberto Gonzale's got-to gal based not only her wafer thin resume but on her abilty to do wot she was told without asking questions as to the legality of thoise actions?

Ya don't?

Ya should.

While yer at it look into how part of Cheney/Chimpy's plan to politicise the DoJ (from a once neutral body into a rethug-laden organ of the GOP that would initiate malicious prosecutions in order to win elections) was to stack the DoJ with other Monigoo clones (read hundreds) from Regent University.

Not only in the DoJ but all over the place.

Obama's first task as POTUS is to find all those overly loyal/underly competent GOPher apparatchuks and FIRING THEIR ASSES.

Can you give examples of positive?

Beyond the failed attempts to impeach and imprison Bush and Cheney?

They also tried to bring the war to a close.

Which, as you state, is one of yer goals as well.

-Ending the War
- Close ALL the bases around the world
- Nationalize the Federal Reserve

Nothing wrong with any of those three idears.

Have you read any Chomskey, Eddie?

Try "What Uncle Sam Really Wants".

Is a short one but a good one.

Try also the "Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein.

Be Well.

So an ordinary schlep is now coached to believe he knows more than he knows.
This is how Palin got started.

Palin/Plumber 2012!!!

My account got hi-jacked

Ya don't?

Ya should.

Be Well.

#37 | Posted by dethspud

Spud, The neocons got you!

They made Bush a scapegoat, but made incredible advances toward the New World Order and the Democrats in Congress could do nothing about it.

Oh, yeah! The people can ! We an elect Barack!

And get rid of the Patriot Act,
Nationalize the Federal Reserve,
get rid of our dependance on foriegn oil,
balanace the budget...
shut down 700+ military bases around the world
stop provoking war with smaller nations

My account got hi-jacked

#40 | Posted by Manypaths

Right. Regardless, I'm glad you won't miss the next 6 days.

I live in Ohio and I develop residential property. I work with many people that have an opinion not far off from JOE. It is a little scary sometimes, because he and the others I know have no real basis for their argument, except that they will not vote for a Black man no matter what.

That is the truth, Obama is black so they could never vote for him. They have no other argument. Most guys I know could not offer a real explanation of what Socialism is...so I helped one guy....I asked him have you ever riden the COTA bus in Columbus? He said..."yes" and then I replied the COTA system is a product of socialism. He later replied that he though Karl Marx was a Russian Commie.

I am writing this to give an example of how light on intelligence some people are. We need to look at the world through their eyes, not ours. Then we may be able to make sence of the racism that is still so prevalent in Ohio.

I don't pretend to be very well read, but at least I read! I have a Poli Sci degree, and I read more about politics now that I did when I was in college. Perhaps it would help everyone to read a little more and stop jumping to conclusions due to race. I call it the NASCAR effect. It is alive and well in Ohio...and thats pretty sad.

Which, as you state, is one of yer goals as well.

-Ending the War
- Close ALL the bases around the world
- Nationalize the Federal Reserve

Nothing wrong with any of those three idears.

#37 | Posted by dethspud

The Democrats in Congress don't want these things!

You assume they want them because they are on the neocon agenda, but have you seen any Democrats, save for Dennis Kucinich, actually try any of these things?

Didn't think so.

The Democrats in Congress don't want these things!

You assume they want them because they are on the neocon agenda, but have you seen any Democrats, save for Dennis Kucinich, actually try any of these things?

Obama has based his entire early campaign on ending the war in Iraq swiftly and honorably.

Getting rid of the bases?

There hasn't been a single viable pol on either side of the aisle who's called fer it.

Clinton came closest by speaking of a "Peace Dividend" but at the end of the day he was savaged by the right fer even the smallest headway he made in that regard.

Nationalising the Fed?

Spud sez either Nationalise it or rename it cos it aint really the Fed if it's privately owned.

The political will to do so does not exist at this time but who knows, with the advent of blogworld many things are possible now that weren't before.

Blogworld circumvents the loop from BigBiz to the MIC to BigGov to Big Media.

They are being forced to react to the rising levels of conciousness these days rather than just do their old schtick which involved preprograming the masses with focus-grouped sound bites fresh from their friendly neighbourhood think tanks.

/Naomi Klein tells a wonderful joke about think tanks.
//She sez they are places owned by the makers of tank who tell you wot to think.

And get rid of the Patriot Act

Yes, one of the most worrisome things about Obama is the fact that he re-upped that odious document recently after initially balking at the thought.

The arguments by the Rtards that Obama is a dangeous leftwingloon bent on turning the US into Russia East are comletely unfounded.

The argument that he may turn out to be just like all the other co-opted pols in DC is the only one that Spud really worries about.

Regardless, the fact remains that he is far and away the best and the brightest possibility this election cycle in terms of both electability and policy and Spud is more than willing to give him the benfit of the doubt fer at least a hundred days.

'Trust but confirm' that's Spud's motto.

Nice chattin' at ya.

Be Well.

If Obama loses, you can bet Joe the Plumber will fancy himself as singlehandedly being responsible for taking down Obama.

And white middle America will agree with him.

In fact he'd be their hero.

You're sick of seeing his bald head now?

You ain't seen nothing if Obama doesn't win.

Clinton came closest by speaking of a "Peace Dividend" but at the end of the day he was savaged by the right fer even the smallest headway he made in that regard.

In other words, No balls to get it done.

Obama has based his entire early campaign on ending the war in Iraq swiftly and honorably.

which is happening... BTW.

Nationalising the Fed?

Spud sez either Nationalise it or rename it cos it aint really the Fed if it's privately owned.

Do you know what the Federal Reserve does?

Ah, the Iraq War---It's "ending" the way it had to, as a selection of the best of poor options.

Regardless, the fact remains that he is far and away the best and the brightest possibility this election cycle in terms of both electability and policy and Spud is more than willing to give him the benfit of the doubt fer at least a hundred days.

Actually, Ron Paul was a much better pick, but the Repugs are way too neoconish.

I figure to "win" Iraq we'd need the five hundred billion to one trillion dollars we spent there back. It would be useful to have our dead soldiers back as well. Maybe Joe the Plumber has an idea about that one.

Opinions should be based on research and facts, not just pulled out of your ass.

#20 | Posted by TFDNihilist

Odd thing about that-that's where the reich-wing douchebags actually KEEP their opinions.......
jAfter the rethug party flush rimjob-et al "deposit" their ideas & opinions for them.....

Joe, that may be a hyperbole, but Obama does support some individuals who hates Israel --- LATimes has a tape on that but the liberal paper is refusing to release it.

You're sick of seeing his bald head now?

You ain't seen nothing if Obama doesn't win.

~Bill Johnson.

If McCain stood half a chance of winning you might be onto sommat.

The truth of the matter, however, is that McCain will lose.

Badly.

So badly, in fact, that the stink of the mega-failure will follow anyone associated with it FEREVER.

Obama's Big WIN will soon be a fact and McCain, Palin and yes, even Joe the Plumber will become so associated with that MASSIVE loss that their chances fer a viable future w/i the GOP will disappear practically overnight.

McCain will finish out his term as Senator and then retire quietly into the woodwork.

Fundy Ferraro aka Palin might have half a chance at winning back the Governorship in AK in 2010 (cos those kids up north is nuts) but she might also sink like a stone.

Joe the Plant will go on to become persona non grata in the GOP but will be only remembered as the punchline of many unkind jokes fer years to come.

Think Dukkakis in a tank.

Think Ferraro getting fired from Pepsi after doing those lame assed "Choice of a new generation" ads.

Be Well.

Dethspud must be drinking some koolaid to be this confident.

Buyers remorse. Bradley effect. Unpolled voters. Independent voters (Savage listeners). They will give Obama the whip!

(Fasting and prayer on November 3 --- wnd.com )

An Obama donor, a Black woman, permitted employees to snitch on Joe's records.

Bradley effect

Have you heard of the "reverse Bradley effect"?

That's where dyed-in-the-wool Rightie Tighties curse and spit when they hear Obama's name mentioned in public cos they are expected to but when they are in the voting booth they pull the lever fer Barack cos in their heart of hearts they know America can't afford another four years of the last 8.

Unpolled voters

Most unpolled voters are younger folks w/o no phone or only cell phoines. Those folks are going fer Obama at a 3 to 1 ratio.

Independent voters

McCain was selected from the crop of GOPhers specifically because of his appeal to moderates. He sank his chances with them by adopting BushCo policies one by one and put the final nail into that coffin with by picking the extremist whackjob Sarah Palin.

Moderates and Independents are flocking to Obama in droves as a result.

Even life long republicans are leaving.

(Savage listeners).

Are NOT independent voters. They are crazy folks.

See: Your mirror

Can you think of any more ways to fail, Tacky?

The early voting rsults show that registered Dems are showing up at the polls in a 2 to 1 margin versus registered Republicans.

McCain was right about one thing, the pundits were wrong.

Spud, however, has been right all along.

It's gonna be a double digit landslide fer Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

President Barack Hussein Obama.

Get used to saying it now, Tacky, otherwise it's gonna be a long eight years fer you.

/Oh, did Spud fergit to mention that Obama is gonna be a double termer?

^_^

Be Well.

An Obama donor, a Black woman, permitted employees to snitch on Joe's records

Was that before or after she carved that B into yer face?

Yer killing Spud over here with yer race baiting shit.

Be Well.

Joe's just the man to deal with these issues. He's used to working with fecal matter.

Oh, yeah! The people can ! We an elect Barack!
And get rid of the Patriot Act,
Nationalize the Federal Reserve,
get rid of our dependance on foriegn oil,
balanace the budget...
shut down 700+ military bases around the world
stop provoking war with smaller nations
#41 | POSTED BY EDDIE

If Obama wins, I bet not a single one of these things you listed above come to pass.
Not a single one.
None, nada.

I'm done with politics. I no longer care.
I'm much happier when I don't think about politics.
Now I understand why most people remain willfully ignorant of the political happenings in this country.
I'm out. Throwing in the towel, and throwing the TV out the window (watching no TV also makes me happy).
I wish you luck Drudge members ... thanks for indulging my trollings, take care and goodbye.

"Was that before or after she carved that B into yer face?"

I keep seeing people say, "carved a B into their face"...what the heck does that mean??

I haven't been gone that long to lose touch, have I?

Some dumb disturbed chick in Pennsylvania scratched a B into Her face and claimed it was an Obama supporter who had done it. Turns out She is a Paid McCain campaign worker who made the whole shebang up.

Larry

Let Me add to My post since My mind is going. She claimed to have been mugged at an ATM and subsequently this 6 foot 4 inch black man who was a Obama supporter scratched the B into Her face. Not only was it a Made up story She scratched the B into Her faceass backwards.

Larry

Are you serious????

OMG

I keep seeing people say, "carved a B into their face"...what the heck does that mean??

I haven't been gone that long to lose touch, have I?

~Lisa

Hey Lisa, Spud is so glad you asked.

There's a thread on the topic but Spud would prefer to give you a play by play. It started when Nanc brought to blogworld's attention a story about a woman from Texas who was working for the McCain campaign in Pittsburgh went to a bank machine and got robbed. She alleged that the robber (a big scary black man, btw) noticed her McCain bumper sticker and after robbing her carved a B into her face with the knife he used to rob her.

Matt Drudge took the story and ran with it giving it BIG PLAY over at his increasingly irrelevant sie.

About that folks around here who were weighing in on the story started having suspicions. First, the woman's B was backwards and second it looked like it had been carved with a fingernail not a knife and third, the woman had refused treatment at the local emergency room.

A lot of women (Nanc included) pointed out that a woman with a facial scar tends to react a little stronger than a guy and that her refusing treatment was more than a little suspicious.

Anywho long story short the next day she came right out and admitted that her despicable race baiting story was pure bullshit and now blogworld and the teevee talknig heads are having a field day.

Jon Stewart last night did a bit where Samantha Bee pretended to be a market reporter who'd had a backwards G carved into her face by Alan Greenspan.

Spud LOL'd.

Again, thanx fer askin'

Be Well.

NEWSFLASH, TAKITEZ:

Michael Savage listeners are no more "independent" than you are.

Thank you Spud!

Good grief!

Oh then it's better for McCain. I would guess Savage's listeners are not on the pollsters radar and this will add an element of surprise to koolaid drinkers like DETHSPUD... hehehehe..... LOL.....

Obama is forced to defend PA and it literally rained on his latest campaign there.

Obama is forced to defend PA and it literally rained on his latest campaign there.

#69 | Posted by takitez

At least he wasn't a girly man like McCain who wussed out of his event because of a little rain.

And speaking of which - Obama's little rain event still drew 9,000 people, while McCain barely drew 900 to an indoor event later, after canceling his main event. Guess he worried about a little rain washing off the pancake makeup.

Anyone who refers to himself in the third person on these posts is an arrogent prick . . . especially if they have no vote. STFU and GBTW.

I hope the concept of looking to "average Joes" or "average Sarahs" for advice and leadership is not a lasting trend. average people with an abundance of confidence, but little else, are truly scary.

Reality Flash....

Savage reaches 8-10 million listeners across the nation. I'm sure most of them are unpolled and some of them tilting to McCain will contribute to the November surprise in this election.

"I'm sure most of them are unpolled"

How?

I guess most of them are unpolled....

"I guess most of them are unpolled...."

Most of every group is unpolled. What's your point?

Do you actually believe Savage's listeners have magically been untapped by the polls and unrepresented in the opinions?

They're actually putting this discredited doofus out on the campaign trail!?! The milk's beyond sour, it's solid. You'd have to use a spoon of ignorance to eat this up.

Gallup: race tightened, McCain behind only by 2 points. newsmax.com

Savage is not a fan of either Bush or McCain. Not all his listeners are conservatives. He hates liberals. So presumably many of his listeners don't fit into tight labels.

My point is that, since Savage reluctantly came out for McCain today, October 28, Tuesday, the tilt toward McCain may not have been factored in any polls so far.

If his listeners were really waiting for a signal as to who to vote for, as Savage claims, then this is good news for McCain. Any extra votes like these will help in neutralising the dirty tricks of ACORN in registering fraudulent votes and busing them into voting booths.

Good to see the scarecrow polls finally settling down to more realistic ones. This election is closer than the liberal media would like you to think.

takeit....... people who listen to savage weren't going to vote for Obama anyways. He is an out and out racist. He literally blew a gasket when I called him 2 years ago and said I got my job through affirmative action over more qualified white guys. I have called several times since then just to troll him. sadly I never get past Hannity's screener.

Rasta, I gotcha point....

Savage listeners weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. Maybe they weren't going to vote for McCain either.

But now, fearing or hating the idea of Marxism, maybe they will heed his advice and RELUCTANTLY vote for McCain. Out of his 8-10 listeners, what if just one million voted for McCain --- and the rest stayed home.

"Gallup: race tightened, McCain behind only by 2 points"

And in the only poll that matters, McCain is behind by only 38.

Obama 67.65%
McCain 29.18%

www.electoral-vote.com

what if just one million voted for McCain --- and the rest stayed home.

#80 | Posted by takitez

All in red states that we were going to lose anyways would be fine by me

51% to 44% using Gallup's expanded model.

The only poll that matters.... LOL. I thought there were several polls showing discrepancies left and right with each other.

But I'm aware, some pollster were formulating the recipe to make Obama look more formidable than reality suggests.

In 2004 I remember the irrational exuberance millions of liberals exhibited over Ohio on election day --- and were crushed to learn later on learning that Bush won. Even the concert of Bruce Springstein that day could not overcome the result.

well takeitez corruption is hard to overcome. your side had diebold and corrupt election officials in 04. Hopefully things have changed.

"The only poll that matters.... LOL. I thought there were several polls showing discrepancies left and right with each other."

I meant the Electoral College. What's your prediction for the final electoral vote count? The spread at that website has only been increasing. Rasmussen has Obama way ahead. RCP has Obama with over 300 EVs. About the only folks giving McCain a snowball's chance is the ever-reliable Bill O'Reilly EV map, which calls Michigan a toss up! Somebody better tell McCain!

Obama has about 260 in the bag (10+ pts); McCain would have to virtually run the table, even in the states currently polling Obama 6-9 points ahead. And the biggest metric of all is working solidly against McCain: the vast, vast majority of the populous believes we're on the wrong track. That's historically deadly for the incumbent party.

Joe the plumber makes more sense than Joe the lifelong senator from Delaware.

Less gaffs, too.

I assume Shep will be fired shortly. I have to hope CNN scoops him up.

This article shows that Joe's the perfect little Republican. Scared, drinking the kool-aid and unable to think for himself. He needs "Daddy" to save him. Pathetic, weak, disgusting.

Joe the Plumber needs to stop spewing shit out his mouht and get back to cleaning out shit from stopped up toilets.

Joe the plumber is a good representative for the republican base, he just needs a name change: Joe the dumber.

The rtards real colors are shining brightly as their ship goes down...in trying times, a person's true nature comes out.

Rasmussen: McCain within 3 points. newsmax.com

Takitez leaves out the rest of the article, which shopws Obama with a larger lead among likely voters. Still, cling to any scrap of hope, Takitez, and repeat three times daily:
"I DO beleive in fairies."

"Takitez leaves out" a lot.

Rasmussen Reports 10/26 - 10/28 3000 LV 2.0 50 47 Obama +3
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/26 - 10/28 2435 LV 2.0 49 46 Obama +3
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/26 - 10/28 2409 LV 2.0 51 44 Obama +7
Diageo/Hotline 10/26 - 10/28 870 LV 3.6 49 42 Obama +7
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 10/26 - 10/28 1179 LV 2.9 49 44 Obama +5
ABC News/Wash Post 10/25 - 10/28 1316 LV 2.5 52 44 Obama +8
IBD/TIPP 10/24 - 10/28 894 LV 3.0 47 44 Obama +3
GWU/Battleground 10/22 - 10/28 1000 LV 3.1 49 46 Obama +3
Ipsos/McClatchy 10/23 - 10/27 831 LV 3.4 50 45 Obama +5
Pew Research 10/23 - 10/26 1198 LV 3.5 53 38 Obama +15

www.realclearpolitics.com

That's 5.9 +/- 3.7 Obama wins.

Anyone making book on Niceville's new handle next week?

1980: Reagan was behind and came out winning big.

2004: Bush was behind in Ohio by day and won by evening.

If buyers' remorse and Bradley effect comes into play: the nation will witness a November surprise!

Polls, my foot.

Joe the phony is apparently planning to cut a country music record.

Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher,

huh?

I thought the title meant Joe the Senator!

Well frankly, Joe the Plumber has been making more sense than that other Joe.

Well frankly, Joe the Plumber has been making more sense than that other Joe.

Let me think about that.

I agree with Joe! Since the Jews in this country vote blindly for the Socialist Party and the Republican Party is the party that strongly supports Israel. This support should be withdrawn. We Republicans are starting to contact our elected officials demanding they withdraw support for Israel.

It would change the opinion of the US in the middle east and save this country billions.

"We Republicans are starting to contact our elected officials demanding they withdraw support for Israel."

That's about as accurate as saying Israel will die at the hands of its incompetent and underpowered enemies should Obama win the election.

SULLY:#100 Stay tuned. It's growing.

Once FLOP EARS gets in there it will be easy to accomplish.

"Once FLOP EARS gets in there it will be easy to accomplish."

What, destroying Israel? Easy for who?

I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. History shows that Israel's enemies couldn't win when they had the upper hand. Now Israel has better conventional equipement, better trained and more disciplined troops and nukes. I don't think you have the foggiest notion of what you are talking about.

Don't you just love the way that term "Flop Ears" really caught on?

There must actually be three people here who now use it.

SULLY: Wake up! I'm talking about support for Israel. Republicans are for strong defense which translates to good for Israel. Democrates (or as they are now refered to as the Socialist Party) are always trying and accomplish reducing our defenses. (Case in point) Barney (Bone Head)wants to reduce defence by 25%. Yet the Jews in this country blindly support the Socialist Party.

SO WHY SHOULD THE REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ISRAEL?

Dumb actors speak out on the wars, the economy, the environment, animal rights, medical research and the list goes on so why are they more qualified to speak out than Joe The Plumber? How many times have we had to listen to some insufferable liberal leaning speach from some Hollywood turd at the Oscars or Emmys?

But God forbid an ordinary guy, a Republican supporter, speaks out the same issues and automatically he is NOT entitled to have any opinion. So much for free speech from we ordinary peons.

"Wake up! I'm talking about support for Israel. Republicans are for strong defense which translates to good for Israel. Democrates (or as they are now refered to as the Socialist Party) are always trying and accomplish reducing our defenses. (Case in point) Barney (Bone Head)wants to reduce defence by 25%. Yet the Jews in this country blindly support the Socialist Party."

OK, but I've repeatedly told you why I think Israel isn't in danger of "dying" as Joe the Plumber stupidly claims. Why do you disagree with me? If we cut Israel off tomorrow, how would its enemies take advantage? I'd love to hear this because the truth is that Israel whipped the shit out of those Arab bumblers when they were severely outgunned in the past. Now they have nukes and the Arabs don't.

Also, I can't imagine how anyone can claim the GOP is strong on defense given the last eight years. The biggest attack on our soil occured under their watch. They failed to get the people who did it - mostly because they undermined the effort by shifting priorities elsewhere and insisting on relying on Afghanis for political reasons. They turned a simple search and destory in Afghanistan into a major clusterfuck of a nation building exercise. That is not even a proper task for an army. Then they started another war for reasons that were proven not be true and thousands of Americans have died because of that as well. Bush is one of the worst military leaders in history (he may just be taking horrible advice from others but he's the CIC).

You can't just claim a party is better on defense. There has to be something backing it up. And nothing backs your claim. All the GOP does is spend more on defense. They don't actually make anyone safer. Quite the opposite if you look at their recent record.

"But God forbid an ordinary guy, a Republican supporter, speaks out the same issues and automatically he is NOT entitled to have any opinion. So much for free speech from we ordinary peons."

When actors say dumb shit, plenty of people nail them on it. If Joe the Plumber wants to be a policial figure, he should have some semblence of what he's talking about. His opinion on Israel is completely uninformed. If he wants to shit out his mouth, he should be prepared when people call him on it.

Stop being such a crybaby.

But, but, but...you're being baldist!

SULLY: I'm amazed at how limited your knowlege is of history. Did you go to Berkeley?

The Truman administration decimated the military. We were unprepared for Korea. Eisenhower had to rebuild the military.

Carter reduced the military to a point that we couldn't even perform a simple hostage rescue.
Reagan had to rebuild the military

Clinton had such disdain for the military that recurtment was at an all time low. Bush had to rebuild the military.

Do you think if FLOP EARS becomes president with a Socialist Party they will not decimate the military? WAKE UP! I told you, Barney (Bone Head) Frank wants to reduce military spending by 25%.

DANIFORTH: Why don't you take your little childish blerbs and go get out the vote for FLOP EARS.

"I'm amazed at how limited your knowlege is of history. Did you go to Berkeley?"

Says the guy who thinks Israel is going to "die"....... In the present the Republicans are weak on defense. I gave you my reasons why. You can disagree but you sure as hell haven't refuted anything I said.

"Do you think if FLOP EARS becomes president with a Socialist Party they will not decimate the military? WAKE UP! I told you, Barney (Bone Head) Frank wants to reduce military spending by 25%."

So I'm supposed to be scared by your use of the word "socialist"? We could reduce military spending by 25% just by getting out of Iraq. And we'd be stronger and better prepared for real threates if we did. Spending doesn't make us safe. So why should I be pissing my pants over this 25% number? I'd rather have a guy in charge who is going to listen to his generals than a guy in charge who is going to listen to neocon pipe dreamers who kill American soldiers with their horrible strategies and who decide that our terrorist enemies are "not a priority".

Your assertion just doesn't hold up to reality.

SULLY: I feel sorry for you. You are lost and there is no chance of saving you. Did you ever here that history repeats itself. Well if FLOP EARS gets in it will reat itself and it will not be preety.

I'm not trying to scare you, your to thick to be scared. FLOP EARS will protect you.

Joe is a handy man that calls himself a plumber, A right wing counter saleman calls himself an "engineer", another right wing counter salesman calls himself "Customer Representative", note that this is an appeal to authority, this is common among right wingers and fundies. SAD!

Don't worry, Ozzie. We know your vote for CAULIFLOWER FACE and BIBLE SPICE will tip the election.

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