Ah yes. Ronnie and Teddy must have been Marxist Communist Socialist Terrorists just like Obama, eh?

"the wealth over the last 30 years has been redistributed -- it's been redistributed upwards. As we grow, the top one percent's getting a disproportionate share."

About 600 billion worth.

Plus, there is this...

David Gergen is a Marxist.

He's a commie pinko librul fag!!

I heard on the internets that David Gergen has recently acquired a portrait of Josef Stalin for his living room.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

nuff said.

watch out for the mark.

ELCID do you have your Manifesto yet???
Better hurry because you will be tested when Comrade Obama seizes power. Punishment will be severe.

"We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

-- Gov. Sarah Palin, quoted by the New Yorker, a few weeks before she was nominated for vice president.

"We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

Comrade Palin is a good Communist. It must be because Russia is so close by.

the Earned Income Tax Credit

Yeah, Spud heard Gergen say this on CNN last night and wondered how many Rtards heads just asploded upon hearing the news.

Then Spud remembered that Rtards don't watch the "Commie News Network" at all, they just listen to FOX, who would never be caught dead making such a point.

In point of fact, everybody believes in redistribution of wealth.

The Rtards and Dems only real argument is in which direction it should be going.

Dems think the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and Spud concurs.

This election is a stark contrast of philosophies.

Progressive versus Regressive.

Science versus Superstition.

Future versus Past.

Fair versus Unfair.

Equality versus Inequality.

Inclusive versus Exclusive.

Smart versus Braindead.

Spud's on the left on all them dichotomies.

As always.

Be Well.

Spud- you nails it (again)

America is effectively divided.

This is what worries ME late at night.

stupid Zombies!

The Rtards and Dems only real argument is in which direction it should be going.

BINGO!

If obama wants to prove to me that he's anything more than another corporate whore, then he's going to have to do what jimmy carter did and challenge the bank/war pig/intelligence machine (jimmy carter).

I would like to say that I think this will happen, but I don't make a habit of lying to myself.

Let's continue to practice paternalistic economics.
Leave the wealth in the hands of the top 1% of the population who know what to do with it and the gravy will trickle down to the rest of it. Just look at how well this has been working for us.
Economics should be handled just like political power-it should be consolidated at the top.

Isn't it obvious how effective trickle down economics is? After all, something has been
trickling down. It is brown,
but it does not smell like gravy.

nuff said.

#5 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

what a douchewaffle.

Here is a mind boggling statistic:

In the fifties and sixties the "Financial Sector" constituted 2% of the US economy. Production was King. Today the financial sector constitutes 40% of our economy and manufacturing has been moved overseas.

The financial sector is running Washington. The bailout is one element of that treachery. They are behind the push to reduce Taxes in order to take 50% of the GNP instead of 40%. They have already surpassed taxation.

Prices and Debts are too high, in relation to wages. An adjustment is in order. But all Paulson (Bush) and Rubin (CLinton and Obama) care about is their buddies in the "Financial Sector". Both came from Goldman-Sachs.

This stupid fucking bailout can only hide the underlying problem until BushCo leaves town. They have wrecked the ecoonomy and as a parting shot are stealing at least another $1.5 trillion from everyone.

Financial sector = dollar religion

nuff said.

#5 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

what a douchewaffle.

#17 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Guessing you choose your friends in the same way LIP?

Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.

So much for campaign finance reform.

Which is not against campaign finance law, and they are screening on the back end and returning questionable or unverifiable donations.

Tell the whole story Cid.

he is telling the entire story

there was a lady who signed up as a MS dela ware and gave them 15 bucks and told them that her job was a "mccain supporter" and made up a bunch of other shit and she claims that it went through in onle a minute or two.....including a FAKE social security number.

and EVEN TODAY THE FUCKIN NEW YORK TIMES has an article talking about this AS WELL as acorn....
under investigation in THIRTEEN states and results are that only ONE THIRD of all of thier forms turned in are legitimate

and you are ALL falling right into line being duped

and YOU are the smartest sumbitches in the world????

I DONT THINK SO............

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Stop the music.

Redistribution is giving someone welfare.
Redistribution is giving a tax rebate to someone that didn't pay taxes.
Redistribution is not letting someone keep the money they made.
Redistribution is progressive taxes.

Please read Marx. He had the formula.

-Please read Marx

Or Ronald Reagan who gave us the "Marxist" EIC, or or Teddy Roosevelt who promoted the "Socialist" progressive income tax.

Silly Sniper. Political tricks are for kids.

Which is not against campaign finance law, and they are screening on the back end and returning questionable or unverifiable donations.

Tell the whole story Cid.

#21 | Posted by SeekerofTruth
I provided the link, read it yourself.

"Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this."

How convienient for the Obama campaign. They are not checking the under $200 donations. The same guy could contribute 50k in $200 increments - or someone from Iran or the PLO could contribute maybe?

The corporate person is the largest system for wealth redistribution outside of war and religion.

Our government constantly redistributes wealth.

People who cry about redistribution of wealth on this site are some of the same people who fear that we may stop sending billions and billions to Israel. When money is taken out of our pockets and given to other people overseas, that is a redistribution of wealth.

Every penny we send out in foreign aid is a redistribution of wealth. That's just one method the government uses. No-bid contracts has been a big one lately too.

Why "redistribution of wealth" has become this buzzphrase as if its a new concept is a mystery to me.

and reagan would have never used or supported something called
"ecconomic justice"

so thats a significant difference.

and look at it this way too

NUMBER ONE liberal senator is BHO

NUMBER three liberal senator is biden

and NUMBER TWO..........bernie sanders.....AN ADMITTED SOCIALIST.........

and again......you are all being duped and we on the right are trying not to be sucked in with you.

Snippy the Wonder Mutt thinks that redistribution only occurs when you give something to someone poorer than you.

The sick puppy doesn't realize that taxing the middle class at a higher rate than corporations and 'rich' people is also redistribution of wealth.

I say that unearned income should not be taxed at a lower rate than earned income. Earned income is defined as remuneration for services provided. Sitting on your fat ass and collecting dividends or capital gains does not count as services rendered. Working at a job or being self employed does.

Simple.

You don't have to tax the unearned income at a higher rate, just don't tax me more because I am stupid enough to work for a living.

"NUMBER ONE liberal senator is BHO"

BL2: champion purveyor of debunked talking points.

and AXE....as I have said and heard........that level of 'middle class' keeps getting lower and lower with everyday of obama and biden opening thier mouths about it.
they had better watch out or more people will know the TRUTH about them

of course it really doesnt matter
on a local radio show last week I heard a women say that she voted for obama because palin was too
" PLAIN AND ORDINARY"

now she is REALLY BEING Duped..........

say anything you want......

you cant change that FACT by berating me here.....

Debunked Danforth???

Sort of.

The study BLT cites DOES have Obama as the most liberal senator, based solely upon his scant 2007 votes AND based upon skewed critieria.

The study is flawed, but not debunked.

Regardless, I have previously linked a study that has Obama tied for 10th with Biden among active senators.

That in itself is flawed though. Obama has had a VERY short tenure as senator, cut further short by his suspension of senatorial duties (common for any candidate during campaign season) in lieu of campaigning for his next position.

The vetting of Obama is beyond pathetic, it's scary. He could be well to the left or well to the right of what he is campaigning on now - I bet on the former.

I don't have a problem with evolving a position based upon changing realities on its face. Having said that, Obama's position has evolved on every issue except health-care. Even if our mainstream media decided to ask a tough question or two, Obama has 5 different positions for each issue to fall back on - furthermore, to assert any real challenge to an Obama advocacy is to be racist.

so you are saying its flawed because he wasnt there long enough? that makes sense to me.
and if you are, then thats a reason in itself for him to not get the white house

HELL with his wrong statements on small business and destruction of joe the plumber through mistatements he couldnt even run a plumbing company and we are going to give him the keys to the bomb and the white house and our SECURITY.

not if I have anything to do with it...........

"I don't have a problem with evolving a position based upon changing realities on its face. Having said that, Obama's position has evolved on every issue except health-care. Even if our mainstream media decided to ask a tough question or two, Obama has 5 different positions for each issue to fall back on - furthermore, to assert any real challenge to an Obama advocacy is to be racist."

Compare McCain's flip flop on tax cuts for the rich, and Obama's consistent position.
Then think about when McCain switched his position and what was happening in our economy at the time and also consider that he was competing for the REpublican nomination and desperately needed the base to support him. So...he sold his soul and decided that the tax cut he vehemently opposed and had called irresponsible was actually something which should be made permanent. McCain claiming that Obama hasn't been consistent is absolutely the pot calling the kettle black.

"AND based upon skewed critieria.
The study is flawed, but not debunked."

It seems the benchmark for "most liberal position" was whatever Obama voted for. Or doesn't it strike you strange that the "most liberal" 4 years ago was---surprise!---John Kerry...?

And has no one ever met Russ Feingold?

I don't know why b###lover is paid any attention here...

Stop the music.

Redistribution is giving someone welfare.
Redistribution is giving a tax rebate to someone that didn't pay taxes.
Redistribution is not letting someone keep the money they made.
Redistribution is progressive taxes.

Please read Marx. He had the formula.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2008-10-29 11:20 AM

So by your definition, every republican president since the 30's is a Marxist then.

Danforth, don't bring up Feingold. He and McCain cosponsored a bill and it wouldn't look good for the GOP.

I'm proud as hell to claim Russ as my Senator.
Probably the only senator who actually read the Patriot Act.

Listen folks, David Gergen has been secretly paid handsomely by George Soros on the the condition that he speak for Obama.

Of course (giggle), you can link that.

Listen folks, David Gergen has been secretly paid handsomely by George Soros on the the condition that he speak for Obama.

#41 | Posted by takitez

Baby Jesus still doesn't like it when you lie, Nicey.

Actually Bill Clinton, Obama (supported it) and the dems tried redistribution of wealth via pressuring Fannie and Freddie to give loans to unqualified applicants, and this mess is what we found ourselves in. But because the bottom fell off during Bush's Presidency the uninformed are blamin Repubs for it --- and by default Obama is reaping the benefit.

But the socialist and Marxist stigma is getting some traction on Obama.

-But the socialist and Marxist stigma

You must mean the Reagan EIC and Teddy Roosevelt progressive income tax stigma, eh?

"Actually Bill Clinton, Obama (supported it) and the dems tried redistribution of wealth via pressuring Fannie and Freddie to give loans to unqualified applicants,"

(SNORT)

"Now, because he knows that his economic theories don't work, he's been spending these last few days calling me every name in the book.

Lately he's called me a socialist for wanting to roll-back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans so we can finally give tax relief to the middle class.

I don't know what's next. By the end of the week he'll be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten. I shared my peanut butter and jelly sandwich."

MR. RUSSERT: Before you go, you know there's been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your full six-year term as U.S. senator from Illinois?

SEN.-ELECT OBAMA: Absolutely. You know, a little--some of this hype's been a little overblown. It's flattering, but I have to remind people that I haven't been sworn in yet. I don't know where the rest rooms are in the Senate. I'm going to have to figure out how to work the phones, answer constituent mail. I expect to be in the Senate for quite some time, and hopefully I'll build up my seniority from my current position, which I believe is 99th out of 100.

How can you tell if Barack is lying....his lips are moving.

He says he will give everyone a tax cut "90%"...but that is AFTER he lets the Bush tax cuts expire...so the net is everyone over 50K gets a tax increase. The bottom 50+% that pays NO INCOME TAXES will get a CHECK ( like the last Stimulas package)...but you say "they did not pay any taxes..so how can you cut nothing?" You are just shifting income from the top to the bottom.

Now...the people at the bottom 1) did not work in high school to get an education. 2) did not work to put themselves through college or a trade school to get an education ( if they did they would not be at the bottom) 3) did not work hard enough to get promoted in thier current employment.

So...we are going take money from the people that have worked to make themselves successful and give it to the ones that didn't - and that is "fair?"

America used to be the "land of opportunity" where if you took a risk and started a business you could get wealthy...or if you worked hard ....or you invested wisely...or if you just got plain lucky......but under Obama and the DEMS this will go away. Punish the workers, if a person works over time and makes more than 50...PUNISH THEM...give their money to the person that sat on thier ass and didn't work the overtime.

That is redistribution of wealth ..that is communisum....

"That is redistribution of wealth ..that is communisum....

#48 | Posted by foshaffer "

How many times does this idiocy have to be rebutted? How many times does it have be pointed out that every government function implicitly redistributes wealth, that every Republican from Teddy Roosevelt to Reagan implemented explicitly redistributionist programs, etc? I'm tired. Somebody else do it.

unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources

Is the oil being pumped out of Alaska on state owned land or federal land? If federal land, why is it that only Alaskans share in the royalties?

"collectively Alaskans"

Isn't "collective" a Commie term?

Why are all of you moron douches to stupid to figure this out?
They are all globalist, New World Order, Elitist.
And you morons argue about right, left, republican or Democrat.
Hello! They are all working together towards globalization.
It's like big time wrestling. They hate each other in front of the camera, and they are buddies in private.
It's sad to say, but you fucking idiots don't deserve a free society. You are to stupid to manage it.
You need a fascist controlled government to keep all of you retards in line.

"That is redistribution of wealth ..that is communisum....

#48 | Posted by foshaffer "

How many times does this idiocy have to be rebutted? How many times does it have be pointed out that every government function implicitly redistributes wealth, that every Republican from Teddy Roosevelt to Reagan implemented explicitly redistributionist programs, etc? I'm tired. Somebody else do it.

#49 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-10-29 07:50 PM

You have to do it a million times. They are not interested in the truth or facts. They have a world view which is impenetrable by reality.