The attorney general's office is investigating if the access of Wuzelbacher's BMV information through the office's Ohio Law Enforcement Gateway computer system was unauthorized, said spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi.

"We're trying to pinpoint where it came from," she said. The investigation could become "criminal in nature," she said. Brindisi would not identify the account that pulled the information on Oct. 16.

Records show it was a "test account" assigned to the information technology section of the attorney general's office, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Thomas Hunter.

Brindisi later said investigators have confirmed that Wurzelbacher's information was not accessed within the attorney general's office. She declined to provide details. The office's test accounts are shared with and used by other law enforcement-related agencies, she said.

On Oct. 17, BMV information on Wurzelbacher was obtained through an account used by the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland, records show.

I suppose this was official government business?

Those who crticized Bush and Co for spying on terrorists, should take note.

Under the Dems anyone who questions them can look forward to the full resources of the government being used against them. Look at the new interest in the UN-Fairness Doctrine, etc. Bush and Cheney are amatures compared to these guys.

Under the Dems anyone who questions them can look forward to the full resources of the government being used against them. Look at the new interest in the UN-Fairness Doctrine, etc. Bush and Cheney are amatures compared to these guys.

#3 | Posted by sawdust

Worth repeating, well stated.

Amazing how this guy is being treated for asking a question.

"Amazing how this guy is being treated for asking a question." #4 | Posted by Mato

0bamanites tolerate no questioning of Barry which is why anyone who dares to is immediately accused of having a "racist" agenda. Somehow that is "change" I can do without thank you.

Vote 3rd party or independent for real "change" cause there ain't 2 damn cents worth of difference between 0bama and McCain when you come down to it.

"I suppose this was official government business?"
#2 | Posted by anamerican at

YEAH!

What's the problem ----- don't you feel safer?

Sincerely

Last years You

YEAH!

If he has done nothin' wrong, then he has nothin' to worry about!

"Worth repeating, well stated"

Posted by Mato at 2008-10-25

Illegal usage of government computers to violate someone's privacy? Isn't that a FELONY? Where's Jesse Jackson on this? Where's the ACLU on enforcing his right to privacy? Where's the outrage from the party of PRIVACY?

Funny, I'd be willing to bet that if a McCain campaigner were to do this, or say, make up a story about being mugged, which is a misdemeanor, that'd be front page news every hour top of the hour for two days straight. And they'd be calling for McCain to step down in shame over it.

Oh, wait.

And yet, somehow, this isn't hypocrisy. Or, maybe it is hypocrisy... but it's okay to do it, because they did it first. Or something.

I remember when the Democrats once were the party of principles, and not the party of "I don't care if we have to BURN the whole Constitution, our guy MUST WIN!"

"Illegal usage of government computers to violate someone's privacy? Isn't that a FELONY?"

YEAH!

It is!

But you have one problem ----- its republican apointes who run all these government agencys! You will need to wait until after january before you can make these claims! Unless of course you want to hold bush and gang responsable right now!

"Illegal usage of government computers to violate someone's privacy? Isn't that a FELONY?"

YEAH!

Wouldn't you feel stupid if these searchs found that Joe the Plumber was a partner of that other "conservative" Musad the Bomber!

Amazing that McAint would screw this guy over just to score false political points isnt it.
Boy, McCain sure fucked him.

its republican apointes who run all these government agencys! You will need to wait until after january before you can make these claims! Unless of course you want to hold bush and gang responsable right now!

#9 | Posted by Redneckville at 2008-10-25 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, I'm so sure it's an agency made up entirely of Republican "apointes", with nary an angry Democrat on the premises. And furthermore, I'm sure it's the REPUBLICANS who invaded a man's privacy because he DARED to speak against Obama.

Good lord. Do you even think, or do you just vomit on the keyboard and watch what comes up? Seriously. You're trying to make a gimmick and be funny, but you're really just coming off as a moron.

It's like you were TRYING to make a point, but over the span of two posts STILL couldn't figure out what it was.

Did you see the latest... Biden gets some tough questions and they pull out. No more interviews for the station. They were supposed to interview his wife but they pulled out...

What spoiled little babies.. Wa, Wa, Wa....

Can you imagine if Palin had tried that... Hey, you guys are being too tough on me, I will not answer your questions.

What the hell are these guys going to do when they have to face off with Iran or China... start crying???

"What spoiled little babies.. Wa, Wa, Wa.... "

Meanwhile, Screechy Sarah is so afraid of the press she hasn't given a single press conference or done a single Sunday news show.

Those who crticized Bush and Co for spying on terrorists, should take note.

Oh we are, we are.

First, it's worth noting that RTs who had no problem with their right to privacy going down the toilet when BushCo authorised the TelCos to spy on American citizenry with a massive data mining operation replete with retroactive immunity are having a problem here.

Second, "Spying on terrorists"? are you really that naive?

Third, Joe the psuedo-Plumber is a plant. Anoperative who asked a fake question. The GOPhers have invested in this guy and it just becomes more and more obvious daily. Spud heard onna tube the other day some talking head floating the notion of Joe running for office. Spud wants the seeming coincidence of former Alaskan Joe and his relative from Wassilla who racxe snowmobiles with Todd Pa;lin to be more closely looked at.

Didn't you kids learn anything from Nixon?

Quit using unreliable plumbers fer fooks sake!

Secrecy in government is never a good thing and it has done nothing but increase under BushCo.

Privacy is a luxury that only the hyper rich can afford (See Cheney's google earth coverup) these days.

Be Well.

The point is you have no leg to stand on, sof!

and 40k a year joe didn't do anything but show what a stooge he is and illistrate how dumb the "base" is!

So I repeat, if he has done notin' wrong, he shouldn't worry if someone is a snoopin' and, its for your "saftey" that the Bush admin made this sort of stuff part of "governence"!

So take you late to the party hysterics and shove it! You got what you wanted, and now obama gonna have what you eagerly gave bush!

Ahahahahahahahha! Serves you shitbags RIGHT!

LOL You guys are such hypocrites.

"LOL You guys are such hypocrites."
#17 | Posted by anamerican at

What? You think you fucks owned it!

LOL for sure!

Now take your spankin' like a man!

Palin has had more press conferences and more interviews that Biden in the past month or so.

This from CBS News
"In the past two days alone, Palin has answered questions from her national press corps on three separate occasions. On Saturday, she held another plane availability, and on Sunday, she offered an impromptu press conference on the tarmac upon landing in Colorado Springs. A few minutes later, she answered even more questions from reporters during an off-the-record stop at a local ice cream shop.

By contrast, Biden hasn't held a press conference in more than a month, and Obama hasn't taken questions from his full traveling press corps since the end of September. John McCainwho spent most of the primary season holding what seemed like one, never-ending media availabilityhasn't done one since Sept. 23.

Though she often turns the "mainstream media" into a punching bag on the stump, Palin clearly enjoys interacting with reporters. She seems to relish the opportunity to demonstrate that her breadth of knowledge far exceeds what she offered to CBS News' Katie Couric in a series of interviews that were marked by vague, often convoluted answers to straightforward questions.

After her plane in Colorado Springs, Palin answered no less than 14 questions from the media. It took traveling press secretary Tracey Schmitt three attempts finally to get the governor to move along."

"Palin has had more press conferences and more interviews that Biden in the past month or so. "

Horseshit. Biden has had over 160 interviews since he was first named VP nominee.

Screechy Sarah:

0 press conferences
0 Sunday news shows

Heard that impromptu press conference. It took Tracey Schmitt more like 10 attempts to get the Gov to shut up.

If you had listened to it, you would understand why she was trying so hard.

Still more than Biden has done. Check the link to CBS News (above). And then when Biden did have an interview and was asked a tough question he ran away.

JOE THE COCKSUCKER CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

More final dunce-o-rama from the McCan't/Palin Prayer circle.

Depending on the state the transparency is soooo easy. In Cali, all you need is a car tag, the car owner will be notified, but you can find lots of stuff. In Fl, all you need is a last name and a county, all public records disclosed with pdf files on mortgages, deeds, death c., traffic violations, liens, lis pendens, all of it, for free without any problem. Don't know what goes on in Ohio the home of REAL AMERICANS, probably info easy to get a hold of.

For the dinosaurs out there, it's called the electronic age.

Since the tax owing unlicensed future high tax bracket tool has nothing to hide, it's no problemo, that's the same exact barking from the fringe GOP gasbags over anything other than Bushy's bullshit, that shit is sacred. Stupid Tools.

Losers.

Oh, just scratch a 'B' on the losers forehead and be done with it.

just a week ago the right wing goons were all that Obama supporter beating poor little Todd. Big news on Hanity et all. Then the truth, the embarassing truth. Think before you put your other foot in mouth! right wingers should install zippers on their mouths!

Joe the Tax Evader's already on minute 16 of fame, but if these data inquiries were illegitimate, the people involved should be held to account.

"Amazing that McAint would screw this guy over just to score false political points isnt it.
Boy, McCain sure fucked him." #11 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

You mixing Kool Aid in your cocktail there OldWiskySour?

"Second, "Spying on terrorists"? are you really that naive? Third, Joe the psuedo-Plumber is a plant. Anoperative who asked a fake question. The GOPhers have invested in this guy and it just becomes more and more obvious daily.15 [Posted by dethspud

Dethspud, are you having what OldWiskySour is having? Explain how McCain knew ahead of time that Obama would walk down Joe's street and take questions from the residents. Explain how Joe got the mission from McCain to ask a simple question that caused Obama to put his foot in his mouth. As far as spying, it is only spying on terrorists that the liberal hate. They are fine will all other forms of spying on the citizens. Look at the surveillance cameras everywhere today. That doesn't bother the liberals a bit or the ACLU would be all over it.

"Horseshit. Biden has had over 160 interviews since he was first named VP nominee. Screechy Sarah: 0 press conferences 0 Sunday news shows" #20 | Posted by nullifidian

Nullifidian, you guys must be having a party with your Kool Aid Cocktails. 160 interviews in a month and a half? I have seen like two. Both disasters. I noticed your Palin list is dwindling these days though.

"JOE THE COCKSUCKER CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP." #23 | Posted by LetUsPrey

LetUsPrey, why don't you have a drink with these other guys. It might calm your nerves.

the only reason joe the plumber got a looking into is cause john mccain invoked his name 25 times in the debate

the only one responsible for this idiot to get a beat down by the media is John McScrew the middle class.

To blame obama is retarded.
Mccain brought it up a million times
and the palin/mccain ticket keep bringing it up

they have no choice
they f'd his life over. they should spend 150,000 on HIS wardrobe

Lets wait and see who did the deed.

But in the meantime -- if folks really believe that this infantalizing of the political process is a good thing -- with Joe the Plumber and his other cartoonish monikered mates who are "supposed" to represent the working class -- if you think this is good, and we need more of this; in other words leadership and policy coming from the least informed of us, then Mike Judge was indeed a prophet. IDIOCRACY is a'comin'. Funny how so many repub faithful pray for this to come to pass. Silly humans.

They are fine will all other forms of spying on the citizens.

Is that why the Republicans voted, overwhelmingly I add, to pass the domestic eaves dropping bill? Is that why they were up in arms over the immunity given to telecom companies who aided to government in spying on its own?

Fuck you, you ignorant peice of trash.

You and your support for the current administration is exactly what is leading us down the road to becoming a police state.

I said it before...as have others. When someone you don't like gains the power that the Bush Administration has grabbed for themselves, you'll get pissy, and here you are.

Welcome to it. You helped create it. You gave it a pass because it was a republican doing it. You bought in for your own "security". So now you have sacrificed your personal liberty and are no more safe than we were on Sept 10, 2001.

Asshole.

The MAJORITY of the nation wanted surveillance, moron. Unlike you libs conspiracists, we'd rather have our calls listened too and a nuke lobbed into NY... and by the way, did you notice we haven't had one terrorist attack since 9/11 in the US.

"and by the way, did you notice we haven't had one terrorist attack since 9/11 in the US."

911 would only be a day in September if Bush would have heeded the warning in that pesky little report that was handed to him and put into place the safety procautions back then...that we have now.

"The MAJORITY of the nation wanted surveillance, moron."

no the majority of your party wanted surveillance

The MAJORITY of the nation wanted surveillance, moron.

Really? I don't remember it being put to a vote.

As a side note, I can remember American's being whipped up into a frenzy about the Iraq war. How's that working out, eh?

Unlike you libs conspiracists, we'd rather have our calls listened too and a nuke lobbed into NY... and by the way, did you notice we haven't had one terrorist attack since 9/11 in the US.

Ahh, the typical shit-stain response. "You dislike what the Bush Administration is doing, you must be a liberal". That pretty much invaldiates any point you would like to make with me.

As to your preference to be listened in on, please get on the same page as the rest of your buddies in this thread. They don't like it now. It's bad because a democrat is going to get those abusive powers now.

Thanks for stopping by.

And BTW Smashmouth???

I'm all for surveillance, as long as there are checks and balances.

This country hasn't seen that in years. This administration grossly overstepped their bounds.

"if Bush would have heeded the warning in that pesky little report that was handed to him and put into place the safety procautions back then...that we have now."

Great talking point! Following that logic, the Dems have been in charge of both Financial services committees since 07, in power to pass legislation, SO I guess you're admitting the crisis is all the Dems fault...

"the Dems have been in charge of both Financial services committees since 07, in power to pass legislation"

Which can be rendered useless via the filibuster and the veto pen, as the Republicans have proven by refusing cloture more than twice the previous record rate.

I don't recall seeing any legislation from Dems to limit Fan and Fred. Just the Chairs saying what fine shape it was in and getting their special perks and donations...

But you have one problem ----- its republican apointes who run all these government agencys!

#9 | Posted by Redneckville

You gotta be shittin me. These agencys are run by buracrats and 90% of them are socialists.

The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!
The Commies is commin' ta git ya! Run! Flee! They's'a commin'!

WAHHHH! THEY WON'T LET US HAVE OUR TAX CUTS!
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Insincerely, The Retarded Right

and the Obama campaign is investigating.....LOL!!!!

Lunacy prevails!

The liberals of this country are making an example out of this average "Joe." If you disagree with Obama you will be crucified. What's it called when a dissenting opinion ensures your demise? Isn't there are name for it?

Liberals are now the Socialist Party.
BYE BYE Freedom!
BYE BYE Privacy!
BYE BYE America!

I think some to the states that can, will secede from the union.

If you're foolish enough to willingly clamor for the attention of the national spotlight, then you should be prepared to have every breath you've ever taken reverse engineered and commented upon--especially when you take into consideration we're living in a BushCo bizarro world where the highest batting average for investigative journalism in this election cycle is the National Inquirer.

If the the plummer has skeletons, it is inevitable that a ravenous media will ferret out the closet he keeps them in.

again
joes issues and are mccain's fault

he brought him up in the debate

until then no one cared

to say its obama's fault is stupid

blame the palin/mccain ticket

C'mon now "ACLUxxx". You've always thought Democrats were socialist, now haven't you.

So nobody knows who did this, but everyone knows how to pull their finger out of their ass and point.

" finger out of their ass "

Oh Noes!
Who farted?

I just let one rip, now I'm all relaxed. You should post those pics on the "Farting decreases blood pressure" thread, Zat.

I think some to the states that can, will secede from the union.

#42 | Posted by aclusux at 2008-10-26 01:31 PM | Reply

The faster the better. Texas first.

"I think some to the states that can, will secede from the union.
#42 | Posted by aclusux"

You need to get out more.

BYE BYE Freedom!

Under Bush, it is now possible to be arrested and jailed for the rest of your life without wever seeing an atorney. You are an idiot aclusux

BYE BYE Privacy!

Under Bush, your phone can be tapped without a warrant. You are an idiot aclusux.

BYE BYE America!

Under Bush, America is no more. We are two countries. You are in no way an American as far as I'm concerned. People like you are closer to Nazis than anything resembling an American.

I think some to the states that can, will secede from the union.

That's change I can believe in.

#42 | Posted by aclusux at 2008-10-26 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag

"BYE BYE Privacy!
Under Bush, your phone can be tapped without a warrant. You are an idiot aclusux."

And the majority of the country approves of wiretaps based on the polls...

Its called "common sense"... we'd rather be safe than protect Ahmad so he can call home to give them the best time to hit the city courthouse...

To everyone stating that the Bush administration set up wiretaps and whatnot, don't forget it became legal to do so without a warrant. In case you didn;t notice, there's been a Democratic majority in the senate for a while. Something could have at least been ATTEMPTED by the pink-tutu wearing little girls.

Then there became retroactive immunity for companies that had already assisted in this unconstitutional endeavor.

Further, it is now legal to seize or monitor ALL correspondence between any American and any international person or entity. All they have to do is say they have "reasonable belief" that doing so would prevent terrorism. And if you pay attention to the wording of it.. who decides if it's a "Reasonable belief" or not? That's right... the people doing the seizing.

Hey, who voted for that, after promising to filibuster it because it's horrendously unconstitutional? Obama, the one you herald as the guy that will save us from all these things Bush has done to destroy our Constitution.

That's some change you can BELIEVE IN, huh? Brainwashed false-liberals.

Great talking point! Following that logic, the Dems have been in charge of both Financial services committees since 07, in power to pass legislation, SO I guess you're admitting the crisis is all the Dems fault...

#37 | Posted by smashmouth

Shore, you are dead on right ! Bush won't veto Dem legislation nor will Repub senators filibuster.

If you Repubs are falling down lucky you'll still have the filibuster next year.

Intersting how the Dems want to duck responsibility for their actions. They have been in control of congress for two years. A congress with worse approval ratings that Bush. Wow, that has to suck...

That is why I think it will be good if they take the White House and Congress. Then there will be no excuses. Like I have said, time will tell. If things get better, they are to be congratulated. If not, then we will know who to blame.

Joe should have known better than to ask a legitimate question of "The Messiah"...
After all, the wrath of God is swift and merciless...

Enjoy 3 to 8 years of not being allowed to question "The Messiah" without being punished severly... Welcome to the Gulag...

" Welcome to the Gulag...

#56 | Posted by TheShyGuy "

What in the fuck would you know about the Gulag, retard? Did you ever read The Gulag Archipelago, dipshit? Try not talking out of your ass for a change, dummy.

I guess the moral of this story is that if you want to be left alone you should never speak out. "They" win, opposition squashed, and you think Bush is detrimental to your freedom - I still remember FBI files in the Clinton White House.

"Enjoy 3 to 8 years of not being allowed to question "The Messiah" without being punished severly..."

You're either with us or against us.

"Enjoy 3 to 8 years of not being allowed to question 'The Messiah'" is garbage. A soft-spoken moderate who responds civilly to all, Obama (hopefully) will lead the restoration of democracy to America. herm

"I think some to the states that can, will secede from the union.

Talk to some of the people that Palin's Husband was palling around with in Alaska about that one....

"Joe should have known better than to ask a legitimate question of "The Messiah"..."

joe should have known that flailing and failing john mccain would invoke his name 25 times in the debate bringing attention to a man who didn't need or want it

thanks john mccain. being a gop, butting into the private life of one more citizen is your mandate

When is the Slime bag liberal media going to snoop on Flop Ears and Dumbo?

"Ohio officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were used to access personal information about Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher."

That is simple, the Obama brown-shirts. This country, if it is stupid enough to elect a socialist president with his party controlling the house and senate, will for the first time in it's history be a dictatorship.

Obama admits in the 2001 interview with NPR that the country needs to redistribute wealth and pay reparations to the blacks. He admits it again with Joe the plumber.

His tax plan can only be seen as a wealth redistribution system that will drive the entire world into a depression unlike anything the world has seen.

The problem is you stupid left-wing lemmings are too dumb to see it. God help us.

Jobummer seems uncomprehending of both the current bi-partisan progressive tax system, and of the fact that the largest re-distribution of wealth in history has taken place in America since 1979, about 600 billion moving from the poorest to the most well off.

One would think, having seen this kind of hysterical pants-pissing about moving the top rates slightly back up to the level they were at during the economically successful Clinton years was some kind of major philosophical upheaval, instead of a prudent tax decision.

Corky,

How can you be so blinded to the facts. Is just electing a dem so important that you will swallow the bitter pill that comes with it.

Tell me Corky, how many jobs have you received for poor people that are getting welfare checks from the Feds.

Why do you think that letting the Feds run your life is a good thing.

Why after all of Obama's speachs and associations with known criminals, socialists, and in one case in Hawaii the head of the US communist part can you with a straight face call what Obama plans for America Just "moving the top rates slightly back up to the level they were.."

You are either stupid or blind, I think both.

In Obama's own words.

" TRAGEDY THAT 'REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH' NOT PURSUED BY SUPREME COURT.."

I hope you idiots know what a pile of droppings you are stepping into.

I hope you idiots know what a pile of droppings you are stepping into.

Apparently you are not bright enough to understand what he is saying.

Good luck with that!

Jobama retorts with ideological diarrhea and paranoid accusations.

Bite on this while you cry: nearly 90 percent of jobs are created by small businesses whose owners make less than $250K.

Got that?

Apparently you are not bright enough to understand what he is saying.

Good luck with that!

#68 | Posted by moneywar

Funny the liberials in Cuba said the same thing about Castro.

Funny the liberials in Cuba said the same thing about Castro.

Funny but it kind sounds like you are saying castro was a conservative.

Apparently the Russians think Obama will win also.

Russia military offers Cuba air defence aid.

"Russia military offers Cuba air defence aid."

That's because Bush agreed to put defense in Eastern Europe.

But it's easier to stay ignorant and just blame Obama, isn't it?

Russia military offers Cuba air defence aid.

What part of this don't you understand.

Bite on this while you cry: nearly 90 percent of jobs are created by small businesses whose owners make less than $250K.

Got that?

#69 | Posted by Corky

Corky just keep repeating that socialist montra and maybe, just maybe they will not put you in a work camp.

The FACTS are there are $5,061,774 companys that employee 500 people or less, which is 86% by the way. On average these companys made, as of the last reveiw in 2004, $2,069,950/year.

So yes the socialist from Chicago will tax the crap out of small business and put probably more than 15% of Americans out of work. Which just gives him more fodder for his socializition of America plan.

If you think this will stop with income TAX then you are an idiot. With the payrol taxes planned for socialized medicine, increases in Social Security and other taxes the top tax rate on small business will be about 63%.

Now chew on that dumbass.

Jobama is apparently another intellectually-challenged Repub who makes less than $200K a year, but has been rump-shanked into voting against his own self-interest by fear-mongering financial lies and culture war issues.

"So many fools, so little time." - Unkle Karl Rove

If someone broke the law in doing this activity--they need to be caught and brought to justice.

For those of you too stupid, arrogant or proud to use the resources at your disposal:

Relax ... it was only the socialist/dem Gestapo ... If this fraud wins, you've bearly seen the beginnings.

Nulli,

"What in the fuck would you know about the Gulag, retard? Did you ever read The Gulag Archipelago, dipshit? Try not talking out of your ass for a change, dummy"

Ah, I love an intellectual discussion with someone who displays their intelligence so well...

I bet your English teacher was so proud of your eloquence and verbal acumen.

"I bet your English teacher was so proud of your eloquence and verbal acumen.

#80 | Posted by TheShyGuy"

Uh huh. Now answer the question.

Nulli,

By the way, assuming you actually read the book, how many Russian friends do you have who lived through the 1918-1956 existence of the Glavnoye Upravleniye ispravitelno-trudovyh Lagerey?
I have several and despite what you may believe, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is NOT the be-all end-all expert on their operation.
Did you know that even TO THIS DAY, Jewish citizens who want to expatriate from Russia are required to PAY BACK every penny that the Russian Government contends it cost to educate them before they are allowed to leave Russia or else they will not be issued an exit visa while non-Jewish citizens are not required to pay back a single penny of their education costs?

Nulli,

"Uh huh. Now answer the question"

I don't take orders from anyone, let alone you.

I am only to happy to carry on discussions but not with people who call me "dummy" and say that "I am talking out of my ass".

To get respect, you have to give respect.

Since you do not choose to act like a civilized human being, you can kiss my royal ass...

" don't take orders from anyone, let alone you."

Hahahaha. In other words, the answer is "no," you haven't read The Gulag Archipelago. But you won't let that from comparing Obama to Stalin, dumbass.

"Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is NOT the be-all end-all expert on their operation. "

I didn't say he was. But anyone who makes the preposterous comparison of an Obama presidency to the Soviet gulag is ignorant or stupid or probably, both.

Nulli,

How do you manage to talk with your mouth so full of bullshit?

You know what they say about people like you who ASSUME...

I've read more books before I got into high school than you will read in your entire life...

and no, not the Cliff's Notes versions either... I've never read a single Cliff's Notes in my life.

YOU still haven't told us HOW MANY Soviet citizens you ever spoke to either... people who have actually lived under the Soviet form of government. Reading books isn't the same as talking to people who have actually suffered under the Soviet System. Living it is even worse, but I doubt that you are a former Soviet citizen...

But anyone who makes the preposterous comparison of an Obama presidency to the Soviet gulag...

Except there hasn't been an "Obama Presidency".

Yet.

But Obama and the people who created the Soviet Gulag posess the same ideology---and operate from the same playbook.

What a sad conversation to have.

"I've read more books before I got into high school than you will read in your entire life..."

Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort.

"Except there hasn't been an "Obama Presidency"."

No shit, Copernicus.

"I've read more books before I got into high school than you will read in your entire life..."

Yeah sure, junior. More likely, I read more books before you were even born than you will read in your entire life.