Q: Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist, under this definition, governor?

PALIN: (Sigh). There's no question that Bill Ayers via his own admittance was one who sought to destroy our U.S. Capitol and our Pentagon. That is a domestic terrorist. There's no question there. Now, others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities that uh, it would be unacceptable. I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there.

"Sarah Palin's contradictory and nonsensical answer on what constitutes a terrorist is being thoroughly fisked online. Her claim that William Ayers is a terrorist but an abortion clinic bomber is not leaves a lot to be desired intellectually, which begs an important follow-up: what would her view of someone who has a record of targeting both abortion clinics and non-natal personnel and infrastructure? I'm talking about Eric Robert Rudolph, the "Olympic Centennial Park Bomber" who was also convicted of attacks on two abortion clinics and a lesbian nightclub. He was a far worse "terrorist" than William Ayers ever was, in both scope of physical damage (Rudolph left a trail of destruction that left 2 people dead, and 120 injured), national psychological trauma (a five-year manhunt shrouded in uncertainty that led to Rudolph's arrest in the North Carolina mountains) and eventual prison sentence (Rudolph got life, Ayers' case was dismissed). The Olympic bombing was undoubtedly one of the most audacious acts of international terror during the 90's, not just for the human toll, but also the psychological and visual effect which left Atlanta and the international community on edge for the rest of the games. I'm not defending Ayer's actions or involvement in the Weather Underground, but the context and breadth of impact matters here. Rudolph was indeed, as Attorney General John Ashcroft said in 2003, "the most notorious American fugitive on the FBI's 'Most Wanted' list," a stature Ayers never even came close to."

only people who either

a) attack the us government
or
b) are muslim

can be terrorists

at least thats the sarah palin/mccain argument

Ya know doggone it,
That is one of them gotcha questions
from the gotcha elite media.
A gotcha question that I am gonna
tap dance around to avoid angering
my god fearing real American base.

~Sarah Project Runway Palin, Mayor of Mooseville

The real question is whether Sarah Palin is a terrorist. herm

That's ok Sarah. I won't call you Vice President.

Hmmm Where is McAnkles, Kirt, Nanc etc to call Eric Rudolph an American Hero?

George Washington was a Terrorist

Why do you think she lives in alaska, idaho won't have her anymore, tired of cleaning up the parenthood clinics.

I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there.

~Scary Failin (in re: Abortion clinic bombers)

The shit that women don't know could fill a universe.

The shit she does know could fit comfortably in the navel of an ant with room left over fer McCain's believability.

Luckily fer Scary, Spud does know and is not above breakin' off a crumb fer the ditzy bint.

Spud to Scary:

An abortion clinic bomber IS a domestic terrorist just the same as Ayers and Tim McVeigh et al.

No need to thank Spud.
Only too happy to help. ^_^

The reason she is so adverse to speaking the truth here is because of another truth somewhere else. Namely the fact that Scary is the fundy porkchop that was hung around McModerate's neck in order to get the evDEVILical and Talibaptist vote out like they did fer Dumbya.

By speaking the simple truth here she would be denying her own raison d'etre.

It's already been established that her other reason fer being on the ticket (ie Capturing disgruntled Hillary voters) has been an utter failure.

That, plus the fact that a lot of fundies seem to be adopting a "Meh" attitude towards the McTaint/Failin ticket despite her dyed-in-the-wool bat shiat craziness, is a plate fulla WIN fer Obama.

G08ama/Biden '08.

Be Well.

Now let me get this straight because what she said seems to be completely insane and I want to make sure I'm getting this correct.

According to Palin, the plane that hit the Pentagon was piloted by terrorists because it is a government building.

The people piloting the planes that hit the World Trade Center were not terrorists because that is not a government facility.

Am I getting that right. I thought the goal of terrorism was terror. I didn't realize there was a caveat that it must involve a government official or building.

Let's go so far as to say that clinic bombers are the worst kind of terrorist. These are the people who have it in for women who make love and then don't give their wombs to male control. Shameful. herm

Let's go so far as to say that clinic bombers are the worst kind of terrorist. These are the people who have it in for women who make love and then don't give their wombs to male control. Shameful. herm

Not sure I would use the term "male" control. I would use "STATE" control.

The laws come from the state.

Well, likely, she probably thinks that it's a good thing when abortion clinics are blown up or doctors are assaulted/killed.

George Washington was a Terrorist.

The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine.
-- George Washington

He musta been a Mooslum.

This is a woman who believes that the world was created 6,000 years ago or whatever. Once you've convinced yourself of that you can convince yourself of anything.

Are these guys terrorists?

It is amasing that anyone in todays day and age could possibly believe the world was created 6000 years ago.

An instant classic, Prolix.

The real question is whether Sarah Palin is a terrorist. herm

#6 | Posted by herm

There is no question that yes she is.

A terrifying, ... terrorist ...

It's already been established that her other reason fer being on the ticket (ie Capturing disgruntled Hillary voters) has been an utter failure.

Got just ONE correction Spuddish one...

Make that "UDDER" failure..............*_^

A terrifying, ... terrorist ...

www.youtube.com

#22 | Posted by Zatoichi

I don't know Zat....I think Walter is a lot scarier than Achmed-the Dead Terrorist.

I also think even Walter is scared by P-nut.....(maybe that's just annoyed..)

Walter is the subject of fart gas/blood pressure correlation research.

You mean...I can stop takin' Blood Pressure meds just by smellin' farts???

I think I'll stick to the pills......

Sarah admitted that anyone who bombs our Capital and civilians is a terrorist.

What don't you understand about that answer?

Swinging and missing...(sigh)

Partisan and religious beliefs aside, the mental gymnastics are required to give that sort of response are incredible. Each interview with Governor Palin should make any rational thinking voter, on either side of the aisle incredulous of her abilities to be Vice-President let alone President. If McCain had chosen some such as Ridge or Lieberman and worry less about the evangelical and social conservatives, this election would have been much different.

What is amazing is that Brian wants to change the subject of Bill Ayers.

Ayers is a terrorist and doesnt' say sorry for it.

He should be in prison--and the left celebrate him--unbelievable.

Including Bill Clinton who pardoned one of the WU.

worry = worried

"What is amazing is that Brian wants to change the subject of Bill Ayers."

Why are you trying to change the subject of McCain's terrorist pals Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy?

Why was McCain pallin' around with dictators, Murphy?

McCain's Private Visit With Chilean Dictator Pinochet Revealed For First Time

SL--there is the worry about the balance of power that every left leaning poster here complained about when the Repubs were all in charge of the House the Senate and the WH.

If Obama is elected this country can't afford or maybe survive the Dems in charge of all three branches of gov't.

But no one here will recall their posts or admit to it or agree with it now.

" this election would have been much different. "

Posted by SLBronkowitz

What stupid pandering it was.
Huckabee would have been a better choice.

Murphy, your stupidity is breathtaking.

Null--excuse me while I don't click the Huf n Puf link--

And if such a private visit--what on earth did they talk about?

Tell us Null!!

Where is the musak thread?

"Sarah admitted that anyone who bombs our Capital and civilians is a terrorist."

What civilians? Those who work at women's health clinics?

"Null--excuse me while I don't click the Huf n Puf link--"

Stick your head in the sand, Murphy. It's what you usually do. Wouldn't want facts to disturb your myopic little world view.

Null--Sarah said people who bomb civilians--are terrorists.

That obviously includes people who bombed abortion clinics--duh!

And I asked you a question to tell us what was said in a private meeting?

"Sarah admitted that anyone who bombs our Capital and civilians is a terrorist."
"What don't you understand about that answer?"

I guess the part I don't understand is her statement that "others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities that uh, it would be unacceptable. I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there."

So please explain to me murphy, which is it. Are those who bomb our civilians terrorists as you say she said or is it that she would not use the word terrorist for those who engage in harming innocent Americans as she said?

Also, if it's only Americans then does that mean the bombings in Spain, England and other parts of the world in civilian locations were not terrorism?

And I asked you a question to tell us what was said in a private meeting?

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-10-24 08:56 PM | Reply

Usually what is said in a Private meeting remains private hence the term PRIVATE MEETING.

Larry

Palin told Couric she was a feminist but told Williams she didn't like labels when he asked her the same question. She calls Ayers a terrorist but refuses to call abortion clinic bombers the same. Palin likes labels when it suits her but eschews them when it doesn't. She may think her logic makes sense, but most people will see right through her ploy.

The real question is whether Sarah Palin is a terrorist. herm

Her hubby is.

"That obviously includes people who bombed abortion clinics--duh!"

Then why didn't your Messiah say that, Murphy?

Palin " I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there."

Murphy "That obviously includes people who bombed abortion clinics--duh!"

I guess you need the special RNC decoder to come to that conclusion!

Truely pathetic --- but I think these "christians" really don't care anymore!

Not I but Christ, right murph! The ultimate shirk of human responsabilty!

Thanks to Larry for the clarification.

Sarah is not the messiah--that would be your guy Obama--a losing one at that..

And oh yeah--Todd is really a terrorist! lol

What did Todd bomb? Hey NG3?

Folks parse out BS and miss the point.

Hey if Rex isn't here witht he musak thread I am going to start it myself.

I had a really great week!

"Folks parse out BS and miss the point."

Talk about irony, here's Murphy talking about parsing out BS. Murphy, I'm officially renaming you MurphyBS.

whatever nullkehead--

do you really want to go there?

I had a really great week!

Hi Murphy! Okay, I'll bite: why was your week so great?

"do you really want to go there?"

Go where, MurphyBS?

"I had a really great week!"

Better now, than the week of Nov. 4th. Hahahahaha.

Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that "some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies."

They have moral superiority in the same way Cranc and Murfy have it - in their own minds.

Michael wiener just said obama is going to be the next hitler!

He sounds really ill!

He has given up to the idea that obama is going to win!

No mention of the b-face girl ----- no suprise there! He only made such a big deal out of it just yesterday! Can't take much more ----- I hear some MM on ice callin' from inside the house! I will NEED a double after this nonsense (incudin' you murph)!

I missed this little episode:

INDUSTRY, Pa. -- A Beaver County man has been ordered to stand trial on charges that he allegedly disrupted a presidential campaign rally for Sen. Barack Obama by wearing a gun and carrying a Bible outside the event.

Police charged 50-year-old John Noble, of Industry, with disorderly conduct for the incident at Irvine Park in Beaver.

Noble says he did nothing wrong at the Aug. 29 rally by showing "Sen. Obama that Pennsylvanians do, in fact 'cling to their guns and religion."'

He was referring to a comment Obama made in April about small-town Americans being bitter and clinging to guns and religion.

we have a B.I.N.G.O! congrats, herm.

"there is the worry about the balance of power that every left leaning poster here complained about when the Repubs were all in charge of the House the Senate and the WH."--Murphy.

Murphy, could you please explain how my statement lead you to make this response? I confess to not being the smartest guy in the world, there fore I have difficultly following your logic.

She answered that way because she knows Williams and the rest of the NBC brand is just looking for a reason to make her look stupid or jump on a gaff.

Just like they do with Biden.

Oh....wait...

;-)

You know that Sarah believes abortion bombers are doing "Gods Work" don'cha.

Wow. Ayers is a specific person who has spoken at length about his despicable actions and his personal motivations. He is a terrorist, no doubt. Now ask the question about a HYPOTHETICAL "abortion clinic bomber". Who is this person? A nutcase? A political extremist? Someone out to stop abortions by destroying property? A psychopath looking to kill people over a self-righteous cause? There is no stereotypical "abortion clinic bomber", so having doubts about branding them all as having terroristic motivations would be incorrect.

But don't let logic get in the way of poorly formed trick questions being used to make up crazy shit about the candidate.

Dinsey-
Bombing an abortion clinic to stop abortions is not terrorism? Bullshit

Who cares what the idiot from Alaska has to say about anything?

Mato

You think Palin is being tricked into looking stupid? How is that done---by asking her questions?

You think they haven't asked Biden questions? Do you think if Biden said something stupid that the press wouldn't be all over it?

The press is giving palin a HUGE break, since the press is definitely conservative. If Biden had said half the stupid things that Palin has said, the press would be running red letter headlines daily.

Dinsey

A terrorist is someone who spreads terror. Too tough for you to understand? Motivations are not in question. Just because someone spreads terror in a cause you support doesn't mean they aren't a terrorist. It just means that you support terrorism in causes you support.

Simple isn't it?

I always figured the term 'focking idiot' should be retired with George W. who has reached the pinnacle in focking idiocy. Now with Paling I see the term may have some further utility....

And I asked you a question to tell us what was said in a private meeting?

#39 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-10-24 08:56 Pm

ah yes! the unintentional stupifying comedic relief that is smurphy!

in a little over a week when this buffoon disappears back to alaska, none of this will matter.

The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine.
-- George Washington

He musta been a Mooslum.

#16 | Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008

read a little about john adams and you might find a different opinion and as I am finding out with each new page of mccoulluchs book, he had quite possibly just as large if in SOME WAYS a larger role in our founding as washington did..........

but thats a nice little passage that you picked out from amoungst all the references to God, now isnt it????

Since John Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli I beg to differ BLT.

Larry

Q: Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist, under this definition, governor?

PALIN: (Sigh). There's no question that Bill Ayers via his own admittance was one who sought to destroy our U.S. Capitol and our Pentagon. That is a domestic terrorist. There's no question there. Now, others who would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities that uh, it would be unacceptable. I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there.

Brian Williams asks her if an abortion clinic bomber is a terrorist, under her definition.

Sarah Palin's answer ...I don't know if YOU'RE going to use the word terrorist there.

She's a skilled politician for that non-answer. I'll give her that. She avoids saying that SHE would NOT use the word terrorist. And she wouldn't.

Murphy, your interpretation is incorrect, and if you don't know it, duh.

To your further point that Bill Ayers "should be in jail", chances are he would have been in jail for a time c.1973-4, but because we had a lying comtempt of court Attorney General of the United States with a lying wife and a lying and disgraced President and a lying and disgraced Vice-President at the time it somehow didn't happen. Funny, huh?

Since John Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli I beg to differ BLT.

Larry

#69 | Posted by LarryMohr at

good one larry

as I was waiting on the library to open, I had JUST GOTTEN To the first talks adams had with whoever that was in tripoli, so I havent gotten there yet....

will talk more about it this week

John Adams, another graduate of Harvard Law.

Treaty of Tripoli, Art. 11.

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Also, if it's only Americans then does that mean the bombings in Spain, England and other parts of the world in civilian locations were not terrorism?

Both britain and spain have experienced many 'terrorist' attacks long before 9/11.

It's you who need to get a new word, how about 'terrist'?

Of course not. They kill for the Republican cause.

Seraph Failin' is a fucking vacant cunt.

So if she agrees with their ideology, she sympathizes with terrorists. She's like the people who give money to Hamas, Al Queda, Hezbollah, etc.

Seraph Failin' is a fucking vacant cunt.

#76 | Posted by LetUsPrey at 2008-10-26 01:34 AM |

I don't know if its vacant but you might be able to drive a Mack Truck thru it without touching the sides based on the number of kids she has.

Wow. Ayers is a specific person who has spoken at length about his despicable actions and his personal motivations. He is a terrorist, no doubt. Now ask the question about a HYPOTHETICAL "abortion clinic bomber". Who is this person? A nutcase? A political extremist? Someone out to stop abortions by destroying property? A psychopath looking to kill people over a self-righteous cause? There is no stereotypical "abortion clinic bomber", so having doubts about branding them all as having terroristic motivations would be incorrect.

But don't let logic get in the way of poorly formed trick questions being used to make up crazy shit about the candidate.

#60 | POSTED BY DINSEY

A terrorist is one who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant.

The only reason anyone would bomb an abortion clinic would be for either intimidation or a political implication. Therefore, an abortion clinic bomber is DEFINITELY A TERRORIST.

Now that is completely correct logic.

"There is no stereotypical 'abortion clinic bomber'..."

I suppose there is no stereotypical serial killer of skid row prostitutes either, but I suspect we can make some inferences. People we know who have assassinated clinic personnel and/or bombed clinics have pretty well all done it for Da Lawd. Their deity has told them that fetuses are people and that these people are being "killed," so they must obey the divine fatwa and kill REAL people. herm