Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, October 23, 2008

The Republican National Committee's $150,000 investment in Sarah Palin's wardrobe has prompted some complaints by the party's big donors. "As a Republican Eagle and a maxed-out contributor to McCain's general campaign, I'd like my money back," one donor told Politico.

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WOW

This says it all right here on the Right WIngers attitude

"As a Republican Eagle and a maxed-out contributor to McCain's general campaign, I'd like my money back he can still have my vote," complained one irate donor on Tuesday.

If I felt that I was ripped off by any business that I Pre Hired I would ask for My Money back and would NOT be supportive of them. I am sorry but that is just whacked out.

Larry

Wiley Rein lawyer Jan Baran, an adviser to several Republican candidates and committees, agreed with Gross, but added that the Palins may still be forced to comply with tax laws.

"The receipt of goods and services by the taxpayer usually constitutes reportable income'," Baran said. Consequently, Palin may have to declare the value of the fashion gifts as income and pay taxes on it.

"She might be able to offset some of the taxes by donating the items to charity after the campaign, Baran said, "although she will only be able to deduct the fair market value at that time."


Hmm

Kinda like winning the car, boat, and home theater system on a game show.

At least in her case, she'll have plenty of income from speaking fees to pay the tax bill.

"...on a game show."

The Gong Show.

McCain winning the primary has saved me a lot of money this summer and fall. No money for the RNC, no money for his campaign, no money for any Repub in Congress. When the party nominated McCain, they figured they would win without me, and without millions of people like me.

Well, we'll see how that turns out. Maybe they're right.

She should give her new clothes to the donors. El Cid and Takeitez are gonna be fighting over her soiled panties.

he can campaign in her baby seal skin and whale blubber clothes.

he = she

Donors Demand Refund because they think they were sold a bill of goods by politicians?

C'mon, honestly, did these people not realize that the money the donate would be used for things other than what they intended? We're talking about Politicians here!

I wonder how much more evidence the right needs that the repub party does not give a shit about regular people?

Well well well.

Palin's lipstick bill is too high for Repub donors.

Heh.

Back off repub donors! She SAID she will DONATE the clothes after the campaign is over.

I wonder how much more evidence the right needs that the repub party does not give a shit about regular people?

#9 | Posted by Lipzoidial at 2008-10-23 12:20 PM | Reply |

What makes you think the right gives a shit about regular people. The right is filled with poor people who vote for tax breaks for rich people, because they think that someday--THEY will be one of the rich people. I would say that describes every rightist on the DR---every single one. They aren't interested in tax breaks for themselves and the people in their income bracket, because they are certain that their tenure in the middle class is only temporary, and that soon they will be millionaires with all the tax breaks they so wisely voted on when they were poor. I know it sounds strange---but ask one of them---any of them---confirmation is easy.


I wonder how much more evidence the right needs that the repub party does not give a shit about regular people?

#9 | Posted by Lipzoidial

What's your definition of regular people LIP? Does it include people who go to work everyday, pay their taxes, teach their kids the value of an education, go to church and participate in the community?

Does it include people who think you have control over only one person in the world, and personal responsibility is foremost in making a community civilized?

Tell me oh great one, who is regular people?


I wonder how much more evidence the right needs that the repub party does not give a shit about regular people?

#9 | Posted by Lipzoidial

What's your definition of regular people LIP? Does it include people who go to work everyday, pay their taxes, teach their kids the value of an education, go to church and participate in the community?

Does it include people who think you have control over only one person in the world, and personal responsibility is foremost in making a community civilized?

Tell me oh great one, who is regular people?

Whoops - sorry for the double. Quick trigger finger.

Caribou Barbie: Matching outfits sold seperately.

Be Well.

"Regular people" are the ones who will go to the Thrift store looking for Sarah Palin's fancy cast-offs.

(Except that woman at the RNC was lying, and thought of saying they were going to be donated to charity as a patronizing attempt to be less of a pathetic mouthpiece of crap.)

Tell me oh great one, who is regular people?

#13 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2008-10-23 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag

That's a question every one asks themselves. To Bush--regular people are people who don't have to work because they have money.

To most people--regular people are people just like them.

To me--regular people are people who make less than 250,000 a year.

What are regular people to you?

What are regular people to you?

#18 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

As you say bob, everyone's definition is different. Bush's definition is skewed towards bush's life, yours is skewed towards yours and mine is skewed towards mine.

My father in law who owns his own computer consulting business makes north of 250k - net profit not gross - he started at IBM as a typwriter repairman and worked his way up. Found a niche and makes a good living. Travels all around the country each week. Supports his wife and mother-in-law. Down to earth guy that pretty much believes in live and let live except when it invades his life. Pays his taxes, votes every election, had two daughters.

I think he is pretty regular.

I think he is pretty regular.

#19 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2008-10-23 02:45 PM | Reply |


He sounds pretty regular, and it sounds like he's doing well enough that he won't miss an additional 3% on his taxes.

personal responsibility is foremost in making a community civilized?


#13 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

From the guy that supports the least personally responsible President and Party in history. Bart simpson fesses up more often than Bush or the GOP.

ELCID does you father in law have employees???
How much does he pay them???

My suggestion for those who earn over $250 and don't want to pay additional taxes, invest more into your business, pay your employees a little better. Corporate profits have increased greatly in the past 8 years while wages have stagnated even in spite of increased productivity. Higher taxes will encourage businesses to pay higher wages if they are earning big profits. Better to give it to an employee rather than the government.

ELCID does you father in law have employees???
How much does he pay them???

He is an S corp - only 1 employee - himself - must pass through all his profits. As I said, the 250 was net last year - after buying new computers for the business. Runs his business from his house - hard to come up with more expenses - BO will help him there!

BB - whether he would miss an additional 3% is not up to you - it's not YOUR money - always easier to play with other people's toys isn't it?

From the guy that supports the least personally responsible President and Party in history. Bart simpson fesses up more often than Bush or the GOP.

#21 | Posted by northguy3

Speaking of a strawman. Who do you support. What, you can't vote in this election - go have a good cry with SPUD.

Oh well then, I guess he'll be burdened with 3% additional taxes. I hope he doesn't starve.

This is more than funny.
RightisRight is saving money by ensuring a Communist is elected President and is proud of it. Well RightisWrong and he will have only himself to blame when this Socialist/Communist (and yes, he is at minimum a Socialist since he ran for IL State Senator not as a Democrat but on the "New Party" (who's platform was ruled UNCONSTITUIONAL by the Illinois Supreme Court) ticket - the "New Party" is a coalition of Democratic Socialits of America, ACORN and Communist Party of the USA members) becomes Czar of America.

As to Palin's wardrobe, funny there isn't a single word about Ghetto Mama's $700 a pair shoes made by Jimmy Choo and are made in England, not America.

Add that to her putting over 150 mostly Hispanic workers out of their jobs in Colorado.

Then her being VP of community relations for the University of Chicago Hospital and made over $300,000 in salary last year for a hospital which is supposted to be not-for profit yet it made a profit of almost a quarter of a BILLION DOLLARS last year and yet Michelle's image was further tarnished in May 2006, when it was revealed that the Hospital - despite earning over $230 million in profits last year - had refused to treat a man who could not afford to pay his bill. He died.

I wonder how than man's family is going to vote in November???

Her dresses cost from $1,000 to $5,000 EACH. Do you think that any of that $605 MILLION donatated to NOBama wasn't spent on HER wardrobe? If you don't think so, then you are bigger fools than even I though you were.

"Do you think that any of that $605 MILLION donatated to NOBama wasn't spent on HER wardrobe?"

I'd say the vast, vast majority.

"If you don't think so, then you are bigger fools than even I though you were."

Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort.

YA.......... Send her out in faded bluejeans and a worn-out tee shirt. What a morron.

He's so Shy, that Shyguy.


Oh well then, I guess he'll be burdened with 3% additional taxes. I hope he doesn't starve.

#24 | Posted by danni

I'll pass your compassion on to him thanks. I guess the left does not care about regular people either. They also don't care about personal property rights so it seems. Only, whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine.

Democrats pass legislation to help regular working people. Repubicans pass legislation to help corporations and the wealthy (- millionaires).

Democrats pass legislation to help regular working people. Repubicans pass legislation to help corporations and the wealthy (- millionaires).

#30 | Posted by moder8

Give me an example!!!

Democrats pass legislation to help regular working people

Like $700 billion corporate bailouts.

Tell me oh great one, who is regular people?

#14 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

Me for one. I was raised in poverty, more extreme poverty than you've probably ever even seen. There were poor black kids that felt sorry for us. How many weeks did you have when you were growing up where you dreamed of friday because that was the day you got to eat some meat - it was payday.

I made it out by being stonger, smarter, faster and harder working than those around me and now I enjoy a very substantial living and I am well educated, not one penny of which was paid for by anyone else or the gov. I owe no one nothing and no one owes me.

I couldn't give two shits about your churches or your communities. They are for losers, who can't make it on their own, just like most so-called poor republicans. Pull their underlying support system out and they crumble like day old bread. They are not regular americans. These are the ones republicans care about because they are so easily manipulated and stupid and lazy. I have no sympathy for them.

Regular americans do for themselves and don't sit around waiting on someone else (or some church or social group) to define who and what they are, or to save them from their own bad decisions.

They get the fuck out of bed and GO TO WORK OR SCHOOL. I'll bet you fit into this category. so that leads me to believe you are either ill-informed or in need of a shot of reality. If you are a christian, at least in my mind, it means you already have a propensity to believe that which has no basis in reality.

I only say that about christianity, because even that wonderful religion is now being used as a dividing wedge and the republican party is the one driving it.

I was raised a poor black child!

--- Staff Sgt Max Fightmaster

Regular americans do for themselves and don't sit around waiting on someone else (or some church or social group) to define who and what they are, or to save them from their own bad decisions.

What are those people then? I mean those that "don't sit around waiting on someone else"/

You must think the people who lived in New Orleans during Katrina are not "regular Americans".

I enjoy a very substantial living and I am well educated, not one penny of which was paid for by anyone else or the gov.

You attended a private school and received no financial assistance sponsored by the govt?

no student loans?

"Whoops - sorry for the double (post). Quick trigger finger." In which Billy El Cid gives readers of the Drudge ReTort the finger one MORE time. herm

150K$ is a lot, but she does need clothes to wow the jethros in her multiple mob-fomenting events.

"The Shy Guy" tries to deflect the limelight from Palin - one of The Right's most frequent tactics - to Michella Obama, suggesting with zero evidence that She Must Do It Too. Shameful. herm

"I guess the left does not care about regular people either. They also don't care about personal property rights so it seems. Only, whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine."

Yeah lefties like Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy.
We have had a progressive income tax for almost a century. The tax rates which will return when the Bush tax cuts expire will still be far, far less than were paid under any of those administrations and funny thing....no one called those guys socialists, commies, or anything like it. People who earn over $250 K and complain about a small tax increase when we have 10 trillion in debt due to the irresponsibility of REAGAN, BUSH 1 & BUSH 2 are just whiners. People paid far higher taxes in my parents generation and did so because they wanted to leave a better country for my generation and the subsequent generations. Unfortunately for the subsequent generations, my own generation the Boomers are selfish, short sighted fools who enjoyed great benefits but will leave only debts.

"As a Republican Eagle and a maxed-out contributor to McCain's general campaign, I'd like my money back," one donor told Politico.

Though shit!! You can't go all-in on a pair of twos and then pull your money back out of the pot if you lose.

though should be tough

People paid far higher taxes in my parents generation

Add up federal income taxes, state income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, payroll taxes (FICA, medicare), local taxes and I'll bet your parents DID NOT pay higher taxes than you do now.

My mom is 76 and my grandmother was 97 when she passed away earlier this year.

We sat down a few years ago and added it up.

as a % of income, I pay way way way way way way more in taxes than they ever did.

Marginal income tax brackets for federal income tax doesn't tell you anything. It doesn't account for the deductions and the fact that wealthy people did not accept those brackets by staying out of them

OK Eberly, but the real discussion is about those earning over $250,000. High income earners paid much higher income tax rates, for the wealthiest it was over 90%.

"It doesn't account for the deductions and the fact that wealthy people did not accept those brackets by staying out of them"

Exactly, they stayed out of them by investing and reducing their income. Those investments created millions of jobs. Income taxes do not only gather revenue for the government, they also encourage investment and can be specifically designed to encourage specific types of investment, i.e. alternative energy production.

Your comment about your mother and grandmother is similar to what Obama is trying to do. Lower taxes on working class folks and increase taxes on the wealthy. It's the way we've done it for decades up until Raygun and supply side which has now failed miserably.

I don't disagree with the incentive to invest although there are other ways to not pay taxes and not invest into our economy through job creation.

some will perhaps create jobs but many wealthy people don't have to and enjoy tax breaks anyway.

Most business owners I work with claim their biggest headache at work is "PEOPLE".

Don't assume that higher taxes on wealthy people will automatically result in more jobs.

"I owe no one nothing and no one owes me."

OK, do you have your own roads that you grade and pave yourself? Do you have your own electric generator that runs on gas refined from the oil that you drilled? Do you have your own personal telephone poles that you put in the ground yourself? I got news for you, buddy, I helped pay for those things, and so did a few hundred million others, and you owe US! I know you want to settle the debt so you can feel more self sufficient, so take what you owe me and donate it to Obama, then we're square.

BB - whether he would miss an additional 3% is not up to you - it's not YOUR money - always easier to play with other people's toys isn't it?


#23 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at 2008-10-23 02:59 PM | Reply

Correct---but it isn't YOUR money either, is it? It is OUR country though, isn't it? OUR country needs to pay its bills---a country should have the same personal responsibility as its citizens--wouldn't you agree?

That being said, we have to decide who is going to pay the bills. People with money---or people with little money. To me, the people with money should pay more than people with little money. People with money enjoy more of what society has to offer, and have far more freedom than you or me. I think it is only fair that they pay more taxes--especially since it won't affect their lifestyle in any way. How many houses do you need? How many cars do you need? How many Boats do you need? How many airplanes do you need? People like Gates gives away a hundred million dollars, and it doesn't even make a dent in their buying habits.

So--it comes down to this.

The bills have to be paid.

Of those taxes your friend will be assessed---would you rather that tax raise went to him---or you?

OUR country needs to pay its bills

I pay my country's bills enough thank you very much. When I can't pay my bills I do not go next door and tell my neighbor he needs to pay his fair share of my bills.

Spending cuts BB, spending cuts. Keep taxes the same and cut spending by 30% and see how fast the bills get paid - quit funding studies on how earth worms are affected by rat crap and art like urine in a jar and we will have quite the surplus.

max.omb.gov

Get rid of these for a start.

art like urine in a jar and we will have quite the surplus.

Oh God Not Again.

Spending cuts BB, spending cuts.

Forget it. He is way too slow to understand that.

Politicans in DC do very well keeping the sheep as stupid as boob. continue debating about tax plans while never addressing the real problem......spending.

Regardless of who gets elected, regardless of what tax plan gets passed......if spending doesn't change very significantly then nothing meaningful will change. Deficits will continue and debts will rise.

Ah what's he whining about... that's only the cost of 15 standing spots at Obama's coronation. The prime spots where you may inadvertently touch the hem of his robe.

Elcidce90

The country is a team. You are part of the team. You pay what the team says is fair, or get off the team. That's how it works. People are trying to decide how the team pays the bills fairly. So far the best solution is have heard is that the people who have benefited the most from being members of the team, pay the most money. I haven't heard any better ideas from you as to how to pay the bills.

Of course cutting spending is part of the program, but not the things you list---those are nickels and dimes compared to the billions spent each month on the war. I'd gladly throw a hundred thousand at a jar of piss and Jesus than spend ten billion in Iraq next month and getting good Americans killed for absolutely nothing. Our values sytems seem to be different. You think ten billion is less than a hundred thousand. You are mistaken.

But it isn't cutting spending as much as it is effective spending. More oversight on spending--more bean counters counting the beans. Give the President the line item veto. Pass a law that makes each bill contain only the main portion of the bill, and have all pork brought up on its own merits. Like the Bridge to Nowhere that was tacked on a bill--remember?--that Bridge where Palin kept all the money even though the Bridge won't be built? Yeah--oversight like that. Get that money back.

Then it is using the resources we have in more effective ways. Using resources and tax money to fight marijuana and prostitution laws is as wasteful as the war in Iraq. Tax these businesses which should be individual freedoms anyway, and the tax burden on the rest of us goes down---as does disease and money to organized crime.

But first we have to pay for what you asked for in voting for Bush. I think that those who voted for Bush should pay for the bailout, and the deficit, since they voted for the idiots that caused the problem. That would be fair. But hey we're a TEAM, remember?

;-)

You pay what the team says is fair

It seems what is fair for one is not always fair for another.

I remember an early lesson in life - Life is not fair. If your brother had a broken arm would you want one too?

Do not put words in my mouth over that comment however. Sometimes people need a hand up. Sometimes people need a kick in the ass. I do not have to pay for the the ones that need a kick in the ass.

Again, cut spending by 30% and you will not have to raise one person's taxes. Everybody wins. That's FAIR.

Yes Herm, you are shameful. You support a racist woman and that is a shame.

By the way, I have voted Democrat most of my life (JFK, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, Dukakis, Gore - another mistake, Kerry), except for Nixon and Reagan. I regret the Reagan vote but not the Nixon vote. I have voted for the Democrat candidates for Congress, Dick Durbin for Senator and even Obama for Senator before I found out who he really is - another massive mistake).

I also have a permanent scar on my wrist from carrying a flare in the JFK parade down Madison ST in 1960 in Chicago when he was campaigning.

How many scars do you Obamarobots have?

I am not a rightist, but I am also not a Communist... but Obama is. I am a moderate Conservative who believes in smaller governement but also believes in a safety net for those who run into trouble through no fault of their own. I am not for big business except for their creating jobs. I am for Social Security but not for welfare.

I don't believe in abortion but believe that it is not my right to tell a woman whether she can get an abortion or not. It is her body and her conscience she will have to live with if she chooses abortion. I am not a racist, haviing friends of every nationality and race and don't look at the color of ones skin but the color of their heart. I don't have racist friends and don't want any. I am not against Hispanics, my one Grandson is half Hispanic and my Father-in-Law was born on an Indian Reservation. So my children are "mixed blood" whatever that is supposed to mean.

Look back at the years of abuse I have taken from Bush supporters on this site if you don't believe me.

That is why I supported Hillary for President and have done so for the last four years (my, a Democrat!!) but will fight Obama forever... too many people have died to keep Communism out of our nation and I won't dishonor them by supporting this Communist for the Presidency of our nation.

Like $700 billion corporate bailouts.

You mean the one mccadaver stopped his campaign to promote, along with Republican idol, Bush?


Like $700 billion corporate bailouts.


You mean the one mccadaver stopped his campaign to promote, along with Republican idol, Bush?

#56 | Posted by northguy3

Fire em all

I heard there's a democratic contributor who is pissed that Biden took Botox injections. BTW, don't forget that evil tanning booth Palin has.

LOL

Get a life, y'all

"I am not a rightist, but I am also not a Communist... but Obama is."

Wild accusations without one shred of evidence make you look like an angry old fool. I don't know why you lost your idealism since your earlier years but obviously you have. Probably, my guess, is you accumulated a little money and property and now are worried that some Commie will come and take it away from you. It won't be Obama. If anyone has ever tried to take from you it is the REpublicans who financed their administrations by borrowing. Just the interest alone amounts to hundreds of billions per year. REpublicans have stolen from our kids because they are too cheap to pay their fair share of taxes as their parents did. Disgusting.

Probably, my guess, is you accumulated a little money and property and now are worried that some Commie will come and take it away from you.

Yes, he is one of those poor souls who reached the American Dream - the original one, not Obama's 'spread the wealth' one.

REpublicans have stolen from our kids because they are too cheap to pay their fair share of taxes as their parents did.

Link? How do you know how much my parents paid?

Disingenuous crap, North.

Obama and Pelosi and Reid and Frank were on the same gravy train as McCain and Bush. They all have the stench of bailout on them... and I heard Nicki Tsongas (local Mass. Dem Congresswomen/shill) being interviewed on the radio just this morning and saying that the next bailout bill will likely be coming up for vote after the election.

Time for some Ozzy:


I've listened to preachers
I've listened to fools
I've watched all the dropouts
Who make their own rules
One person conditioned
To rule and control
The media sells it
And you live the role

Mental wounds, still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a gravy train
I'm going off the rails on a gravy train


"Link?"

If you are so ignorant you don't know how we achieved a 10 trillion dollar debt I'm not even going to waste my time trying to educate you.
Just ask yourself this easy question....who started the Reagan revolution????

My kids and grandkids will be paying for that Reagan revolution.

Just ask yourself this easy question....who started the Reagan revolution????

Clinton had 8 years to undo it if he wanted to. He chose not to because it had led to one of our greatest eras of recent prosperity. Of course, by summer of 2000, Clinton's policies finally succeeded in popping that prosperity bubble, leaving Bush with a mess to clean up.

What's a poor bloke like me when one as deluded as "the shy guy" repeats the same lies again and again, like throwing shit and hoping that some sticks?

Okay, Michelle Obama is no racist. Nothing indicates that she or her husband are even close. Her husband is no communist, or socialist, or leftist, by ANY definition. He is pure centrist with a tent far too big for my tastes, and has never voiced an opinion anyone could construe as from Karl Marx.

My gut tells me that the shy one has no clue as to what communism really is, what socialism or leftism imply, but was told by someone that giving everyone even a bite of pie is somehow evil. herm

You know they make wheel bearing grease that is a deep red in color. She could buy a big ole 3 pound coffee can size of it for under 20 bucks. She could use that in place of the High Dollar lipstick saving the RNC Bank. Easy Peasy.

Larry

Clinton had 8 years to undo it if he wanted to. He chose not to because it had led to one of our greatest eras of recent prosperity. Of course, by summer of 2000, Clinton's policies finally succeeded in popping that prosperity bubble, leaving Bush with a mess to clean up.

Yer kidding right?

Reagan gave the US it's first one trillion dollar budget in his insane sop to the MIC.

Bush gave the US it's first 2 AND 3 Trillion dollar budgets.

Reagan, pretty much by default, gave the mantle of fiscal responsibility over to the Dems and Dumbya did nothing but entrench that reality.

Just cos you say up is down and down is up doesn't make rocks fall to the sky.

All that sed the "Crazy Train" parody was pretty cool.

Once any government Dem of Rep make it past their respective "accountability moments" ie elections they have a sorry and obvious tendency to write laws that please their corporate donors and their legions of lobbyist.

Instead of fixing the blame (which is fun to do and Spud is as guilty of the game as most around here) howsabout offering real viable solutions that fix the problem that everybody can agree with.

Here Spud'll start...

First thing ya do is make the legalised bribery of lobbying verboten.

It impacts the government in such a way as to practically addict both parties to their money cos if one side plays the game and the other don't then the the side that don't will inevitably become uncompetitive in the big money game of running for office.

Yes? No? Maybe so?

Wotcha think?

Be Well.

/Both sides take money from lobbyists but after 87 years of the BushCo oiligarchy Spud sees a ray of hope in the fact that Obama has thus far shunned BigOil donations.
//Sarah ""The Socialist" Palin has been BigOils biatch from the get-go which is why she, in typical Rovian fashion, tries to frame herself as a reformer who "took on" the Big Oil concerns in her state.

87 = 8

obviously.

Be Well.

Link? How do you know how much my parents paid?

~EC

Are you just playing dumb or trying to be cute there?

Previous generations of well-to-do folks paid much more in taxes than the current crop do.

In some cases up to 90 percent.

The fact that Warren Buffet's maid pays a higher percentage of her yearly earnings into total taxes than Warren does these days is worrisome to those who don't want to see the wealth gap between the lower and middle classes and the rich and hyper rich continue it's unfortunate trend.

Be Well.

Obama has thus far shunned BigOil donations.

Wait just a darn minute:


In a new ad, Obama says, "I don't take money from oil companies."

Technically, that's true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn't distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading:

Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.


Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.


www.factcheck.org

Previous generations of well-to-do folks paid much more in taxes than the current crop do.


In some cases up to 90 percent.

No argument there. However, what was the value of a dollar back then? Also, the well-to-do folks were really well-to-do.

For example, in 1944 the top rate was a staggering 94% on income over 200k. www.truthandpolitics.org

Using an inflation calculator:
www.westegg.com

200k in 1944 = $2,334,056.75 in 2007

A closer examination of the relative incomes between the years with the highest tax brackets and now would need to be presented before it is shown that previous generations paid a more 'fair share' than we do now.

Let's hope our rugged individualist El Cid didn't go to any old socialist public schools.

Well I just received in the mail a letter from the RNC and Sarah! begging for $2,000.

I wrote on it "why? does she need new shoes too?" and put it in their prepaid envelope and mailed it back.

"Let's hope our rugged individualist El Cid didn't go to any old socialist public schools."

I think we're safe, Mr. K. Vegas gives 8-1 against Cid having passed kindergarten. herm

So, RNC donors deduct their contributions to the party that pay for Palin's clothes that she then gets for free. Palin then donates the clothes and deducts their value from her taxes, even though she got them for free and didn't pay taxes on the value of the clothing like one would when they win a prize. Am I the only one that thinks this sounds a little strange?

Ooops, misread, the article says that she may have to pay taxes on the value of the clothes. I guess she can add that to the taxes she didn't pay on the travel for her family.

Palin then donates the clothes and deducts their value from her taxes...

???

She is going to do that? How do you know? For an unbiased voter you sure do make a negative assumption. In the spirit of truth and honesty, I think you should remove the 'un' from the front of your handle.

Sorry but I don't think clothes and such can be deducted from your taxes anymore. Bush took that away a couple of years ago.

So, RNC donors deduct their contributions to the party that pay for Palin's clothes that she then gets for free.

A donation to any political party or candidate is not tax deductible. Ever.

Sorry but I don't think clothes and such can be deducted from your taxes anymore. Bush took that away a couple of years ago.


No, non-cash donations are still allowed.

Under $500 not much to report other than the amount.

$500-4999 report how much and to who and purchase price and how you arrived at value.

$5000 or more requires an appraisal.

The laws were changed regarding the donation of vehicles. Now a taxpayer is allowed only the amount of money the charity sold the vehicle at auciton for or the value if the charity uses it.

The problem was that people would take a junker that the charity would get $50 at a salvage yard for and deducting $5000 as the blue book value.

726,

Thanks for the information and correction.

What is the total one can deduct from those kind of donations?

"Under $500 not much to report other than the amount."

Note: That amount is now up to $249, and it currently requires a receipt from the charity. The taxpayer fills in the amount. However, $250 or more of value in a single donation requires an acknowledgment letter from the recipient charity.

"What is the total one can deduct from those kind of donations?"

Up to 50% of the purchase price...ideally, the value the charity receives.

Goat,
If you read my follow on post, I explained that I misunderstood the tax law. The travel thing is another issue and if you would like my personal perspective, I would be more than happy to share it with you. Just shoot me a note and I will talk with you off-line about my reasoning for thinking the $$ spent on Palin's family travel is a little over the top given what we afford our other federal employees.

ELCIDCE90 brags about a father in law who nets over 250k and in the same breath calls him "regular".
No shit ? Do we need some statistics on the percentages of Americans with that kind of an income ?

A Beauty Queen didn't have a single thing to wear?

My inner gay man is ROTFLMAO.

You can put Christian Dior on a pig. It's still a pig.


"...Well I just received in the mail a letter from the RNC and Sarah! begging for $2,000.


I wrote on it "why? does she need new shoes too?" and put it in their prepaid envelope and mailed it back....#72 | Posted by 726"


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!! FF!!

Love it!

Don't you guys keep up?

Sarah was on Hannity and told him the clothes are not her property, they belong to the RNC.

It sounds like she didn't even do the shopping. Someone went to the stores and bought stuff.

Sarah says the clothes were either going back to be returned (they didn't fit) or going to charity to auction off.

But of course folks just love to mock her--assholes.

Next will be her medical records and more mocking about giving birth to 5 children. I betcha' can't wait for that!

I hope she releases a single page document from her doctor stating she is in perfect health--just like Obama did.

"But of course folks just love to mock her--assholes."

She has more than one?

Pay attention to sentence syntax, seekeroflies, "folks" is the plural reference to "assholes".

It occurs to me that Sarah played a key role in a big Republican gamble that lost. I'd say a few Neiman-Marcus duds are small recompense for slinking home to Wasilla or Juneau, tail between her legs, to be a sort of Northern Exposure Monica Lewinsky for the rest of her born days. herm

The fact that Warren Buffet's maid pays a higher percentage of her yearly earnings into total taxes than Warren does these days is worrisome to those who don't want to see the wealth gap between the lower and middle classes and the rich and hyper rich continue it's unfortunate trend.

#68 | Posted by dethspud

Warren is not paid any wadges so you could raise the limit to 99% and it still wouldn't affect him.

If you are going to tax the rich, you have to tax wealth, not income. Ask any dem in congress.

"If you are going to tax the rich, you have to tax wealth, not income."

Nonsense. The current problem is the top rate for dividends is less than half the top rate for unemployment.

Ask any Repub in Congress.

"It sounds like she didn't even do the shopping. Someone went to the stores and bought stuff."


Yeah right.

and of course the fact that the clothes will go to charity makes no difference at all to any of you does it?

charity........I thought that was something that was only a part of the liberal agenda?

what a damn pathetic attempt at deflection, BL2.

That kind of money should have never been spent in the first place over a TWO-MONTH period, one one person's wardrobe.

RNC Donor unhappy about dressing Palin, but ecstatic about the OCTOBER SURPRISE!

Libs get ready to burn your Obama posters.

Thus sayeth our resident special needs poster Ozzie.

"charity........I thought that was only a part of the liberal agenda?"

I wonder what charity. Faith-based? Will she deduct it from her taxes? herm

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