So Powell finally makes a mistake.

Powell is trying to redeem himself for the role he played in the Iraq War. In spite of this endorsement, I don't think people will easily forget how he lied in the UN.

Powell seems to stay on his convictions now and not get duped by the neocon right.

There are many articles out and about on Powell being lied to about what he was to present at the UN, but these contemptious uninvestigative idiots continue to post the lies manufactured by the heavy right.

Fun to watch such ignorance though.

Powell spoke on the intelligence he was given by the Bush Administration. No one was more livid at discovering how he'd been duped and used by them than Powell.

Does this mean that Powell has been forgiven by the Liberal Retards?

Liberals view "Joe the Plumber" as a threat? Funny how Joe is a traitor and Ayers is a hero.

....and lunacy prevails!

Now Powell is on the liberal side????

Who's next Micky Mouse?

This is excellent !!!!!!

I'm not one who holds Powell responsible for his report to the U.N.

As I said above Powell reported what he was provided.

Liberals view "Joe the Plumber" as a threat?

ACLUSUX

No. He's a liar. A liar who probably cost his boss HIS job too.

Ayers is nothing.

Keep taking your daily dose of right wing LSD. Man, you guys live in an alternate reality than 90% of the rest of America and the world.

No one was more livid at discovering how he'd been duped and used by them than Powell.

Nobody I know... who saw his performance at the UN.. got duped. We all knew he was full of shit, the intel was full of shit.

Guess the man is an idiot if he believed the crap he was telling the world.

"Powell spoke on the intelligence he was given by the Bush Administration."

And he threw out the worst stuff before going with the best of a bad batch of "intelligence."

Powell does have principles---at least he made a symbolic gesture towards his country and against the Bush diaster by stepping down from on high.

It'll be amusing, watching GOPiggy nutbags piss and moan about Colin Powell, a man who, just a few short years ago they'd have tumbled over themselves supporting for the presidency. . .once (and if) they got over the fact he's black.

Wow, this is really gonna make ME vote for Barry!!...(not)

Well apparently bush has been good enough to dupe your righties far longer than powell.

That kind of smarts hurts don't it.

Watch Republicans now attempt to destroy Powell.

I'm not a big fan of Powell, but his endorsement of Obama was pretty amazing, particularly in the part about the mother of the Muslim soldier buried at Arlington National Cemetery. This will be huge news to a lot of people -- particularly the inside-the-Beltway pundits and media who love Powell the way they once loved McCain.

Meet The Press doesn't come on here until 9 am CDT

Powell's made many mistakes in his career. Obama has the endorsement of many other more worthy (albeit less famous) Generals and Admirals.

That's just racist. LOL!

the part about the mother of the Muslim soldier buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

Sorry, what?

Sorry but Powell could have done the Right thing and resigned before He went before the UN and sold a bill of bullshit goods.

Larry

BANGITY BANG ....BOOM! KABOOM! .... BANG!!

The sound of heads exploding at FoxNews and FreeRepublic.

It's making my stomach hurt reading the posts.

BWAAAAAAAA

FoxNews is in meltdown !!!!

Sorry, what?

Powell mentioned the Republicans who have said, falsely, that Obama's a Muslim. I don't have the direct quote, but he said, "He's not a Muslim -- he's been a Christian all of his life. But the correct answer is: What if he was a Muslim? Should a seven-year-old Muslim in this country not believe he can grow up to be president?" He then went into a discussion of the mother grieving her son, a Muslim-American born in Jersey who was 14 when 9/11 occurred and 20 when killed in Iraq.

Now Powell is on the liberal side????

Who's next Micky Mouse?

#6 | Posted by aclusux

No. He's on the side of pragmatic realism.

Maybe you should listen to what he has to say before you open your mouth.

Will Matt Drudge feed himself to an alligator today?

There's no good way for him to spin THIS!

The Redstater response to this is interesting. They state Colin was never a conservative, so good riddance. They've taken the same tack with countless others now.

They say the next election (2012) will be between the "true" conservatives and everyone else, which makes one wonder how the philosophically pure expect to win any future election.

More simply, it's just more of the same tired BS---Agree with us or be a Muslim-communist-socialist-
evil person.

Let's hope this stuff is about to become extinct.

Powell said he's still a Republican.

Another in a long line of sane Republicans to endorse Obama.

God bless patriots!

The quote for which I was originally looking to post on this thread:

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."

-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

Now FoxNews is ignoring it like it never happened.

Their spin, apparently, is to pretend it hasn't happened.

Instead, they've been talking about how awesome and brave Sarah Palin is.

well, regardless of anyone wants to re-write history or pick and choose events of the past to support they're worlview, Colin Powell's comments on MTP were pretty damn intelligent.

Too bad those who will not hear missed them.

while this will probably move a few moderate Republicans, I see it as a man who's legacy has been trashed by his devotion to Bush sticking it to another man who's legacy and shot at the WH has been trashed by HIS devotion to Bush.

Either of these guys coulda swept 50 states in 2004.

Or as saint sarah will spin it "the darkies is gangin' up to rape us virginal white wimmin. You Betcha!"

Yes Powell lied at the UN and he knew it was a lie. But it was his job to lie and he took one on the chin for Bushie! He did his job and then he left the den of thieves called the Bush Administration.

One thing that Colin Powell did NOT lie about - Palin is NOT qualified to be Commander in Chief!

Too bad the GOP couldn't keep Powell in the fold! HE would have done a better job in the election than McDeadMeat.

Does this mean that neo con idol Bill Kristol finally got something right, albeit two months late?

Now, that is news.

Powell:

Wrong and duped on his decision to be a pawn reference the Iraq war with his presentation to the U.N......and duped again.

Fact Check: Obama's Consistent Position on the Patriot Act. January 05, 2008 ... Obama Promised to Support Repealing PATRIOT Act, Then Voted to Extend It" ...

Everyone should watch MTP to get a grasp of Powell's thorough explanation for his reasons to endorse Obama, and the problems he's had with McCain - a friend of 26 years.

problems he has with McCain's potential presidency and the way he's running his campaign.

Calling him s Muslim (what would be wrong with that?), the robocalls, the smears, McCain's judgment....

Of course, Powell's credibility is suspect after his "ringing endorsement" at the UN of Saddam's supposed WMD.

The story about the mother of the Muslim kid who was 14 on 9/11 and died in Iraq at 20 is moving....

Go back and look at Powell's presentation to the U.N.......thoughtful, substantive.

"Wrong and duped on his decision to be a pawn reference the Iraq war with his presentation to the U.N......and duped again."

So, naturally, you blame those higher up the chain of command---Bush and Cheney---for lying to him?

Or do you blame the messenger and now the message he was given by his superiors?

Think before you bleat.

"could be an exceptional President...a transformational President.."

Gives the reasons why he thinks so in a very articulate manner

Way to go, Colin! The long awaited rehabilitation of your image begins today! Hooray!

Of course, Powell's credibility is suspect after his "ringing endorsement" at the UN of Saddam's supposed WMD.

Posted by SamBarber at 2008-10-19 10:12 AM | Reply

AMEN

"now the message" = "not the message"

Go back and look at Powell's presentation to the U.N..........Powell "Gives the reasons why he thinks so in a very articulate manner." :-)

Ride On -

Do you condemn those higher up the chain of command---Bush and Cheney---for lying to Powell?

Or do you blame Powell as the messenger and not the message he was given by his superiors?

"#44 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-10-19 10:16 AM"

Pathetic.
Guess your copy of the RNC talking points hasn't arrived yet.
Oh, wait, it's the weekend.
And McCain doesn't do weekends.

Let's try again:

Do you condemn those higher up the chain of command---Bush and Cheney---for lying to Powell?

Or do you blame Powell as the messenger and not the message he was given by his superiors?

Go back and look at Powell's presentation to the U.N.......thoughtful, substantive.

#38 | Posted by ride_on

Based entirely on the intel he was given by the Bush Administration. No one was more pissed about the affair than Powell.

I know you're a Paul fan, but had this endorsement been for McCain everyone on the right would be gloating.

To quote JIMMYDEAN:

FACT!

LOL

Think before you bleat Doc.

How's this lie from Obama? I KNOW they all lie to support their causes. You think their lies are relegated to Bush/Cheney or just one party.

Fact Check: Obama's Consistent Position on the Patriot Act. January 05, 2008 ... Obama Promised to Support Repealing PATRIOT Act, Then Voted to Extend It" ...

I asked you two direct questions, Ride, and so far you lack either the balls or brains to answer them.

Talk about bleating!
LOL!!!

Look out, kiddo, here they come again:

1. Do you condemn those higher up the chain of command---Bush and Cheney---for lying to Powell?

2, Or do you blame Powell as the messenger and not the message he was given by his superiors?

RIDE ON

If you didn't watch MTP you can watch it online after 12 noon at MSNBC.COM/MTP

This isn't some casually made endorsement. He's thought long and hard and really laid out his reasons in the intelligent, thoughtful, and articulate way Powell does.

He's also explaining his speech at the U.N. He was duped.

Everyone should watch MTP to get a grasp of Powell's thorough explanation for his reasons to endorse Obama, and the problems he's had with McCain - a friend of 26 years.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

"That Colin Powell, what an articulate fellow he is!" --- Joe Biden

AU, I wouldn't be gloating if the endorsement were for McCain. Both of these candidates are GREATLY flawed to lead this nation in this critical time. IMHO. Plus, Powell was a big boy when he made his presentation to the U.N. Our whole base of political leaders (Executive Branch and Congress) and our intelligence services (including those of Europe) let us all down.

AU -

Ride On doesn't care. From his posts here today it's clear he got tripped up in lockstep mode and just can't get up.

Ride On:

1. Do you condemn those higher up the chain of command---Bush and Cheney---for lying to Powell?

2. Or do you blame Powell as the messenger and not the message he was given by his superiors?

"That Colin Powell, what an articulate fellow he is!" --- Joe Biden

#51 | Posted by member2586 at 2008-10-19 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

....and clean too, don't forget CLEAN Joe!

JOE: "Ok, I won't....as you know clean is important in my book, that's why I let you know Obama is a clean one."

amazing, how the right, the blind supporters of the war, now brand Powell as a filthy liar who helped them in their support. The man did his duty, something he was later ashamed of and honorably stepped down over. Hey, I was angry at Powell for presenting such cartoonishly false intel, he looked stupid, like the folks who bought it.

Now, if he had publicly broken ranks in the lead up to the war, these same thimble brains attacking him now would have called him an appeaser and a traitor and "blah, blah, blah, watch me drool as I prick my teat with my flag pin".

Win or lose the Presidency, the right is fucked in this country. Deservedly so as their best and brightest run from the unwashed frankensteins their past enabling have created. Better late than never.

DOC, I condemn our Executive and Legislative Branches and our intelligence services. None of them did their job properly. Hardly makes me the lockstepper....does it DOC.

....and clean too, don't forget CLEAN Joe!

JOE: "Ok, I won't....as you know clean is important in my book, that's why I let you know Obama is a clean one."

#55 | Posted by ride_on

LMAO! FF!

RIDE ON .... you ignorant slut!! LOL

(inside joke)

Wrong Kingzilla....had Powell NOT made the presentation and simply stepped down at the time....the system may have paused and asked WHY. WHY did a credible Powell step down?

"Hardly makes me the lockstepper....does it DOC.
#57 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-10-19 10:25 A"

Actually, I'd say you're quite the little lockstepper on this one.

Care to dissect Powell's argument in favor of Obama?

I mean, if you feel up to it, of course.

"had Powell NOT made the presentation and simply stepped down at the time....the system may have paused and asked WHY. WHY did a credible Powell step down?"

Or had Powell's superiors Bush and Cheney simply steped aside the system might have paused and asked WHY. WHY did a credible Bush and Cheney step aside?

On the other hand, they could have saved themselves the trouble by not lying to Powell in the first place.

But that would be asking for too much, wouldn't it?

Powell is an honorable man whose reputation was besmirched because he believed at least some of what he was told by the Bush-Cheney crowd. He at least had the decency to step down in the aftermath. Which of the others did?

Not many honorable men and women in that crowd. And when Powell stepped down the population dwindled to zero.

His endorsement of Obama is a model of thoughtfulness, which you simply cannot expect the rightbots to understand. So many of them scream "principle" but know nothing about the real meaning of the term.

Ok, I actually like Obama and his positive message. I however, think you all have SO MUCH HOPE for what he can do that some of you are driking the koolaide from a fire hose. Do you like this example of Obama? P.S. There are more examples like this....

(none of what folks on the DR that are typically labeled as lefties has commented)

Fact Check: Obama's Consistent Position on the Patriot Act. January 05, 2008 ... Obama Promised to Support Repealing PATRIOT Act, Then Voted to Extend It" ...

Oh, please. Powell was a willing tool. Powell knows what weasel-wording sounds like. He knows what real intel looks like. He knows he was going to the UN with a bust hand.

By the way, remember when Powell said there was a communications intercept between Iraqi generals and one said (of a site to be inspected) "make sure everything's gone"? That was a lie. I read the State Department transcript and the real translation was the just asking if this one site had been cleaned up. In other words it was not something sinister but evidence of Iraqi COMPLIANCE.

Hey DOC, was Obama's support of extending the Patriot Act principled (especially in the light of his promise to repeal the Patriot Act)?

I however, think you all have SO MUCH HOPE for what he can do that some of you are driking the koolaide from a fire hose.

I don't think any president can do all that they promise. Congress would never allow it. But, a president can change the direction and focus of a country, and that will a nice start.

I hope the FreeRepublic crowd understands what Powell said abou the 'narrowing of the party (GOP)' i.e. the use of robocalls, Ayers, etc.

Powell is a lifelong centrist Republican who disavows the rhetoric and tactics of today's GOP.

He basically said McCain, rather than move the GOP back to a pragmatic, centrist place, moved to the GOP that Powell called essentially wild and out of control in the aftermath of the NeoCon takeover. He strongly repudiated the GOP as it is.

This endorsement will help Obama tremendously in Red states with a lot of active and retired military: North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, and especially Florida. Powell is the military figure of our age.

Don't worry, Ride, talking points will be delivered either later this afternoon or early tomorrow morning.

PS: Those talking points, Ride, they won't have just your name on them. Lots of GOPiggy supporters are going to need them for this one.

Your #68 post was a good one AU (although I'm not familiar with the Free Republic crowd or their views).

Doc, I don't do talking points. I don't listen to Rush, Hannity, etc. So next time that you don't feel up to answering the question just say so. So, I'll say what the reality is: YOU COPPED OUT. Acknowledge it and just move on.

Powell is a sentimental person. He gave plenty excuses about his support for Obama --- short of declaring he is supporting Obama because he is Black. (I am disappointed that Powell has to diminish Palin to elevate Obama --- which is hypocritical and unfair: because I know Obama is not all that and his book was written with the help of Ayers).

I would say Powell gives a huge Red Bull drink for Obama, but by now Powell is somewhat washed up and not likely to sway too many voters.

I still believe McCain will be elected come November 4th.

Now Richardson is Judas to Bill Clinton as Powell is Iscariot to the Republicans.

RIDE ON

FreeRepublic is a blog site full of the right wing "He's a Muslim" crowd.

I signed up awhile ago, made one post that was barely critical of one Bush policy (I knew I was behind enemy lines LOL), and was banned for life!

Doc, I'm principled about our loss of freedoms. Alsways have been. It's a slippery slope. If I was a talking point guy why would I be questioning Obama voting for extension of the Patriot Act which Bush vehemently supported. Think, THINK DOC. Saying I am using some alleged talking points makes you look very stupid. But, hey.....repeat it again, if it makes the argument in your mind for ya' (you get to win). LOL.

Judas Iscariot.

I know Obama is not all that and his book was written with the help of Ayers).
-Takitez

Crap

AU, a site that doesn't allow dissenting views is an honor to be banned from.

That is the greatest compliment that RCADE can get for this site that allows a mostly free for all. He has a great format here, imho. (Although it's amazing to me that it is some lefties on here that often times ask RCADE to get rid of some that have views opposed to theirs).

I know Obama is not all that and his book was written with the help of Ayers.
-Takitez

LSD. You're on LSD. Play Sargent Pepper backwards.

I've only heard Number Nine backwards....but, never Sargent Pepper. Is it worth the play?

Although it's amazing to me that it is some lefties on here that often times ask RCADE to get rid of some that have views opposed to theirs

RIDE ON

It's not that. It's that some posters are just plain assholes who spend all day on their bosses dime being assholes for the sake of being an asshole, rarely offering an opinion having anything to do with the discussion at hand.

Ayers wrote much of the book: Dreams from My Father. The Liberal media is not investigating it: because I guess Joe Klein (TIME) converted to Obama as his messiah after reading it.

RIDE ON

It sounded backwards when I listened to it on acid in 1973 LOL

The glow in the dark Frisbee on the front lawn of that unsuspecting farmer in Ypsitucky was a hoot too.

I think Mogambo's chances got dinged a little. LOL

#5 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 09:34 AM |

LOL salad tosser

One of two decent people that come to mind in the Bush administration. The other being O'Neil.

Decent as in, not totally indifferent to the plight of ordinary human beings, comparitively honest. Not given to narcissism, sadism and sloth or lying, cheating and stealing.

TAKITEZ

You get that "fact" from a website that's nothing more than a version of the pulp magazines full of stories of two headed aliens in the checkout line at the supermarket?

AU, one persons asshole is another persons adorable one. Cuts both ways. Beauty and argument are based on the eye of the beholder at times. I know this site gets out of line....but, it's a blog. Tolerance is advised. Shit I had one guy on here demanding my home address so he could show me how lucky I am that this is only a blog (lol, some people should be careful what they wish for anyway). Others have had people track down their identity so they could genuinely harass them in real life. That is what is really PATHETIC and RIDICULOUS.

I still believe McCain will be elected come November 4th.

#73 | Posted by takitez at 2008-10-19 10:49 AM |

lemme guess, you voted for the bushling.

Saying I am using some alleged talking points makes you look very stupid. #76 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-10-19 10:53 AM

Actually, it's your use of them that makes you sound stoopid, Ride.

Anyhoo, a geezer on a horse named Rocinante will try and include you in his delivery circuit later this afternoon.

Ayers wrote much of the book: Dreams from My Father. The Liberal media is not investigating it: because I guess Joe Klein (TIME) converted to Obama as his messiah after reading it.

#83 | Posted by takitez

are you investigating? Because you sure as hell don't have any proof. You are a fucking bullshitter and everyone knows that anything you post is bullshit

Good for you DOC, never address the question and claim I used "talking points". You have made yourself your own tool....congrats dumbo. ROFLMAO

Newt Gingrich is on This Week (ABC)

A guy who was wrong about everything. Pompous ass.

"Mr. Moral Values" who was boffing his secretary while busting Clinton's chops over a blow job. Who told his wife he was leaving her for the secretary while she was in the hospital with cancer.

Is there any surprise at all to this "monumental" announcement? It certainly follows the data from the military polls. Powell is just another one of the group voting 79% for Obama. No shock here.

"Sen. John McCain enjoys overwhelming support from the military's professional core, a Military Times survey of nearly 4,300 readers, indicates, though career-oriented black service members strongly favored the Democratic Party candidate.

McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey of 4,293 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers and former subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times."

To those that do not receive one of the civilian newspapers devoted
to military matters (Army, Navy or Air Force) Times newspapers), here are
the results of their polling for the Presidential "race" coming up.

Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:18 AM... figures are in percent:

McCain Obama

Overall 68 23

Army 68 23

Navy 69 24

Air Force 67 24

Marines 75 18

Retirees 72 20

White 76 17

Hispanic 63 27

Black 12 79

Enlisted 67 24

Officers 70 22

Biden plagiarizes; Obama uses ghostwriters --- one turned out to be a washed up terrorist.

They said Rev. Wright "inspired" the book and that didn't stick, so now Ayers wrote it.

I like the convincing links to this story, btw...

FreeRepublic.com is a hoot to read right now.

Their heads are exploding.

TAKITEZ

I hope your head doesn't explode on the night of November 4th. I don't know how to clean brain matter off the inside of my monitor without tearing the whole damn thing apart.

Soldier on Trekky.

Look at Chart A. This is definitive irrefutable proof that Obama is the Messiah. I am positive.

6 months later-

Well, excuse fuckin' me. Obama WAS the Messiah based upon the intelligence that we had at the time...

RIDE ON

Let me know when you're finished watching MTP.

Obamas does not really write that well --- the book pretty much reflected the philosophy and writing style of Ayers: an unrepentant terrorist he may be but a brilliant intellectual he is.

Ok, I actually like Obama and his positive message. I however, think you all have SO MUCH HOPE for what he can do that some of you are driking the koolaide from a fire hose.

#64 | Posted by ride_on

Ride, I think most voting for Obama only hope that he doesn't treat us llike garbage the way Bush / Cheney did for eight years. I think most of us can figure the reality of a military in two wars and the expenses, both in manpower and financial, associated with that. We can also see the reality of an economy in turmoil. What, in the end, we hope for is a president who, without a stupid smirk on his face, can give us hope for the future and a realistic dose of reality without treating us like morons.

"here are the results"

[citation needed]

GEEZER

The right wingers don't know the difference between intelligent, pragmatic governance or not.

Think about all the "YOUR a dumbass" self retorting retorts around here. Know what I mean?

"The right wingers don't know the difference between intelligent, pragmatic governance or not."

"YOUR" right....and THIS is proof. These right wingers are really lost...

JESTGETTIN

You (very conveniently) left off the most important disclaimer of that military poll:

"The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

So, they polled senior, white, active duty officers only. Who'd a thunk it?

VA, SC, NC, FL are packed full of retired military who'll take Powell's endorsement very seriously.

JESTGETTIN

I'll saunter over to a redneck bar and take a poll. Or a bar predominantly African-American.

Those polls will have just about as much credibility as the one you posted, JESTGETTIN

Nice try, though.

The military is 95% Indians who have to duck the bullets and 5% Chiefs who don't.

"This should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt Colin Powell is himself a Manchurian Candidate for Muslims. His rise to Chairman of the JCS was an obvious move allow him to travel freely among the terrorists in the Middle East. That whole invasion in 1991 was a secret move to enable him to provide terrorists with all they needed to attack us on 9/11"

-The Right Wing Drive By Media

(Now we'll hear what a terrible soldier he was. How he was an affirmative action appointment to the Joint Chiefs. You betcha!)

"The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

I posted THIS from the article...go look at my post.

"Sen. John McCain enjoys overwhelming support from the military's professional core, a Military Times survey of nearly 4,300 readers, indicates, though career-oriented black service members strongly favored the Democratic Party candidate."

"Military's professional core...career-oriented" did you miss that part? So, I guess Powell, being a part of the "professional core," STILL falls within the 79% of black military "professional core" voting for Obama...right? Incidently, it appears he falls within the he 22% of the professional, career-oriented officers voting for Obama too...right.

Once again...what's the big surprise?

The big surprise?

November 4th: McCain wins.

"Those polls will have just about as much credibility as the one you posted, JESTGETTIN"

What's wrong, AU? It upsets and surprises you that the majority of the military is supporting McCain? It shouldn't. After all, the fact that 90 some-odd percent of blacks are voting for Obama doesn't upset or surprise me. Therefore, I would fully expect that powell would be behind Obama. So what? It doesn't make him a bad guy as far as I'm concerned.-

Have McCain and the Republicans started their new campaign tactic yet that Colin Powell is a useless piece of black shit yet and that is all he has ever been his entire life?

Have they started Robo-Call yet saying they have positive proof he is nothing but an Uncle Tom?

"Have McCain and the Republicans started their new campaign tactic yet that Colin Powell is a useless piece of black shit yet and that is all he has ever been his entire life?"

You mean kinda like you and your little leftist-socialist friends are doing with Mccain?

Guess the man is an idiot if he believed the crap he was telling the world.

#9 | Posted by Tosser

Did YOU believe it?

"#92 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-10-19 11:06 AM"

LOL!

"you and your little leftist-socialist friends"

We have another rightbot contendah in the "I Have No Fuckin' Idea What I'm Talkin' 'Bout So I 'Spose I'll Just Blow Hot Air Out My Ass" competition.

You shoulda stuck to the swinette.

***** Does this mean that Powell has been forgiven by the Liberal Retards?
........ Posted by aclusux ******

.......No........you can keep him.......

.....he conspired with the war criminals to lie us into Iraq......

....fuck him and his endorsement.......

"You shoulda stuck to the swinette."

Ah...the good ol' Docster has come out to play. Are you really a philosopher? A gin-u-wine PHD? All this time I thought you carried bedpans and that was why you called yourself "Doc." But NO! a PHD! Who woulda thunk it. If you go take a few more courses, and apply yourself, you might rise to the status of DeadPud as a DR commando.

DAMN! You can tell the wingnuts are worried, look how many trolls came out of the wordwork on this thread.

See ya 11/5 kiddies!

HAHAHHAHAH....fucking love it! The Republican party(clandestine KKK) is in tatters...I meant shattered!!! When's Lieberman going to endorse Obama!!! Life today for the racist middle aged white men of racist beliefs must be going thru a seminal moment in their lives. My only hope now is with a Obama presidency is to squeeze AIPAC and the Neocons out of politics. Im realistic and have my doubts, but you never know. Hopefully we could tell Israel to F*** themselves and defend themselves without the help of their big brother (USA) and cut off their endless supply of US $$$$ (The American taxpayer).

Trade you five washed-up political hacks voting along tribal lines to one senator voting his conscience.

"Have McCain and the Republicans started their new campaign tactic yet that Colin Powell is a useless piece of black shit yet and that is all he has ever been his entire life?"

You mean kinda like you and your little leftist-socialist friends are doing with Mccain?

#113 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-10-19 11:44 AM

Jest- Powell has been thru more shit (dealing with an incompent adminstration) and seen more shit (Vietnam) than your petty little existence. Stay off the DR until you've actually grown "a pair".

Powell sed that Obama better represents a "generational change" in America that is sorely needed and wanted.

Jeez, d'ya think?

Better than McCain even?!/snark>

Ha! The only typa changes that McCain represents are the ones his Depends need on a regular basis and the change that's all that's left in people's pockets after BushCo's thoroughly corrupt and ruinous fiscal policies.

G08ama!

Be Well.

Did YOU believe it?

No, I didn't.

Didn't you read my whole post???

Nobody I know... who saw his performance at the UN.. got duped. We all knew he was full of shit, the intel was full of shit.

OK?

Only Americans believed that rubbish. I can't imagine being bombarded by the fake media sources they have in America who have no independent reporting at all... they only repeat what was leaked to a few by the Govt.

I can't imagine living in such a brain-washed environment.

Fortunately, the rest of the world has a wider choice of news sources.

For example... when an American wants to find out what is happening in Afghanistan.. or what is going to happen in Afghanistan... they pick up the paper and read all about the crap that is full of hope and about how America is "winning" in Afghanistan...

I don't pick up the paper. I order a cup of tea and tip the Afghan waiter extra and ask him 'how's it going buddy? Any news from home?'

In 5 minutes I know most of what I wanted to know. LOL

** Only Americans believed that rubbish. **

.....only retarded Americans & Republicans believed that rubbish.....the rest of us knew it was all lies........

** I can't imagine living in such a brain-washed environment. ***

......you live in Pakistan.....where they believe that Islam is a real religion, instead of a massive fake, instituted by a murderous psycho to kill people who disagreed with him.......

Best source of info, btw, is your barbershop.

Get a haircut and get the news and all the analysis at the same time.

Nobody can analyze world events like your barber can. And unlike the shave and haircut, the chatter comes free... can't shut it off anyway.

........flying horses.........right........

I certainly hope takeitsleazy's head doesn't asplode...reading his posts can be difficult enough as is.

you live in Pakistan.....where they believe that Islam is a real religion, instead of a massive fake, instituted by a murderous psycho to kill people who disagreed with him

See?

I told you only Americans can believe such rubbish.

I can't imagine living in a brain-washed environment, getting bombarded with the likes of FOX and CNN, 24 hours a day.

I am bombarded with ARY and GEO, 24 hours a day. LOL

........flying horses.........right........

Hey, it's your Mogambo who is named "Osama, the Flying Horsey with Beautiful Face" (Barrak Hussien Obama). LOL

I would NEVER vote for someone with such an idiot name.

"Stay off the DR until you've actually grown "a pair"."

Red Sox fan? Ah, gee...probably another one of those Massachusetts Barney Frank admirers and voters. What can you expect? First off, nothing would make me denigrate Colin Powell. I merely said I'm not surprised he endorsed Obama. You should observe the twenty post rule...don't just jump in with your puling vitriol until you have read the previous posts. You would have seen where I posted THIS in #111.

"Therefore, I would fully expect that powell would be behind Obama. So what? It doesn't make him a bad guy as far as I'm concerned."

FreeRepublic.com is a hoot to read right now.

Their heads are exploding.

#97 Posted by AMERICANUNITY

They are indeed stepping up the pace these days, it's true.

Ever since the rethugs pretending to be disgruntled Hillarites over at Hillaryis44.com stole their thunder as the craziest kids on the blog-block they've had to stay up nights in order to try and even compete with them.

The only thing that's keeping the Fundy's heads from assploding is the hope that in the event of an Obama victory they'll all be raptured up to Hebbin w/i a matter of hours.

When that doesn't happen their mass uber-reaction will make even the most luniacal Freeper look totally sane in direct comparison.

Spud can't wait! ^_^

** Gets popcorn supplies ready **

Be Well.

***** I would NEVER vote for someone with such an idiot name.
#132 | Posted by Tosser *****

.......that's because you live in a brain-washed environment where people believe in flying horses.......

McCain knows in (16) days, not only is his Presidential Campaign be over but that his entire political career will be over. Even though still a Senator, he will only be patronized as a bitter old angry man that everyone in Congress will sorta feel sorry for. He will repeat over and over that he was a POW in the Vietnam War and everyone will tell him... "Thanks for your service to our country even though we lost the war"

Strom Thurman John McCain.

"It's hurts really bad John... I know... the thought of the power that you might have had and could have used to continue the destruction of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights like Bush and Cheney started !!"

I can't imagine living in a brain-washed environment, getting bombarded with the likes of FOX and CNN, 24 hours a day.
#130 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 12:39 PM |

Yes, because getting bombarded with the Koran 5 times a day and the violent oppression of women is a better way to go.
And don't give me your "that's all American lies" becuase I know better.

I knew he was a weenie socalist.

that's because you live in a brain-washed environment where people believe in flying horses.......

#135 | Posted by skizziks at 2008-10-19 12:54 PM
and don't forget pedophelia. Muhammhad married a 9 yr old girl.

Flying horses
Killing others who don't believe
Violent oppression of women
mutilation of women

Religion really is the root of all evil.

Don't worry, Ride, talking points will be delivered either later this afternoon or early tomorrow morning.

#69 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Wait. Powell is endorsing Obama because he's black is a talking point?

:)

It's more like an un-talking point.

www.youtube.com

#140 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-19 01:12 PM

What the Fuck does this video have to do with anything?

USA: It was directed at Tosser, but you can find out by Googling Obsession part 1.

Theo van Gogh was killed by Muslims for making this 10 minute movie. He was shot 9 times and a letter to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, saying you're next, was stuck to his chest with a dagger.
She immediately had to go into hiding and is still living in secrecy and under heavy guard here in the US. When I interviewed her, it was amazing all the security levels, email addys, and phone numbers we had to use and rotate just to get her on the air.

Theo van Gogh was killed by Muslims for making this 10 minute movie.

A useless piece of dirt was killed by another useless piece of dirt.

So?

A useless piece of dirt was killed by another useless piece of dirt.

So?

#144 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 01:50 PM

You make my point.

Now can you explain your prophet being a pedophile?
I mean 9 yrs old? Really?

It does explain the violent oppression of women in your society(Muslim)however.

To put it bluntly, Muhammahd was a psychopathic, misogynistic, murdering pedophile who suffered from delusional schizophrenia.

And I personally have no respect, nor will I entertain anything posted by any "man" who carries this inhumanity into the present day.

And don't give me your "that's all American lies" becuase I know better.

You are an American. You claim to be in the military? WMD! WMD!

You are a liar just like Colin Powell. LOL

Muhammhad married a 9 yr old girl.

No he didn't.

Flying horses

Just one. It isn't like we came up with a stable full of them.

Killing others who don't believe

Only Americans in uniform... mostly. I fully agree with that. If your country is invaded, you should kill anyone who wears an American uniform.

Violent oppression of women

I personally don't know any oppressed women.

mutilation of women

Female circumcision? That is an African custom, nothing to do with Islam.

Religion really is the root of all evil.

The United Motherfucking States of America is the root of all evil.

Now can you explain your prophet being a pedophile?
I mean 9 yrs old? Really?

Sure I can. But I think you are too stupid to grasp the hows and whys.

t does explain the violent oppression of women in your society(Muslim)however.

What explains Amreeka killing around a million Iraqis under false pretenses?

This lying piece of shit... Powell... got the ball rolling on Iraq.

Yet, people on this thread have no shame in admiring this monster.

This is only one Mogambo standing up for another Mogambo. And that is where you whites fail miserably.

I thought I heard something.

naw, just a fart in the wind.

"Stay off the DR until you've actually grown "a pair"."

Red Sox fan? Ah, gee...probably another one of those Massachusetts Barney Frank admirers and voters. What can you expect? First off, nothing would make me denigrate Colin Powell. I merely said I'm not surprised he endorsed Obama. You should observe the twenty post rule...don't just jump in with your puling vitriol until you have read the previous posts. You would have seen where I posted THIS in #111.

"Therefore, I would fully expect that powell would be behind Obama. So what? It doesn't make him a bad guy as far as I'm concerned."

#133 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-10-19 12:49 PM

I'll eat crow in response to your last DR.

Go Sox!

My wife was born and raised on Cape Cod. Met her at a Deadshow at Oxford Speedway in ME, July 4,1988.

Live in WA now, just west of Mt. Rainier:

Here's what The Pompous Ass One had to say in an email:

Rush Limbaugh said Colin Powell's decision to get behind Barack Obama appeared to be very much tied to Obama's status as the first African-American with a chance to become president even though Powell laid out his reasons clearly).

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."

As for Powell's statement of concern this morning about the sort of Supreme Court justices a President McCain might appoint, Limbaugh wrote: "I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [general] and secretary of state and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let's hear it for transformational figures."

That dude is gonna have a stroke one day because his head just got too big for the blood to get through.

Here's what The Pompous Ass One had to say in an email:

Yeah, I'm over at FreeRepbublic right now. Here's some of the threads they've put up:

"Rush Limbaugh responds to Powell Obambi endorsement (because he's black)"

"OBama's socialism and Colin The Weasel Powell"

"Irritable Powell Syndrome"

"Powell endorsement is no surprise (vanity)"

The comments being posted remove all doubt about what the GOP is all about.

Wow, those kinds of comments from Rush the Racist?

Shocking I tell you!!

What's wrong, AU? It upsets and surprises you that the majority of the military is supporting McCain? It shouldn't. After all, the fact that 90 some-odd percent of blacks are voting for Obama doesn't upset or surprise me. Therefore, I would fully expect that powell would be behind Obama. So what? It doesn't make him a bad guy as far as I'm concerned.-

#111 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Says the man who neglected to post the paragraph in his cited 'military poll' that said it was, non diverse, older officers only and not representative of the military as a whole.

Says a man who obviously didn't watch Powell's segment on MTP - where he clearly said it has nothing to do with race. Where he clearly laid out in very succinct, precisely articulated sentences why he is supporting Obama, and why he isn't supporting 'my friend of 25 years' John McCain.

Both examples of how you hear what you want to hear only.

Powell is probably the very last Republican with any vestige of conscience, and it's amazing how Ollie Stone picked up on that in his "W" film. Of course the same rigid righties who clicked their heels and shot their right arms skyward when Colin represented the apex of American military power now dismiss their onetime idol as just one traitorous n-i-g-g-e-r endorsing another. herm

He also lit into the Republican Party in just as clearly articulated terms.

The man who delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Republican convention.

The comments being posted remove all doubt about what the GOP is all about.

Yup, "kid gloves off, pointy hats on" time fer the GOPhers.

Rush is just another race baiting Rtard who's shown his true stripes with his endless repetition of the 'Barack the Magic Negro' "parody" tune plus the fact that he continually refers to Obama as a "little man-child" in a not so clever way of calling him "boy" etc etc ad nauseum.

He represents a lot of hate fulled racist Rtards who've been pushed to the brink of insanity by the success of the Obama candidacy.

In point of fact ya don't hafta drive most Rtards crazy. Why waste the gas?

It's a short enuff distance so that in most cases they can just walk there.

Be Well.

Oops, somebody posted this same thread on the back page and I didn't see this thread was already up so I'm re-posting my comment on here --

Colin Powell sure hedged his bets to the last second, didn't he?

WOW Powell, don't like to stick your neck out much, do you?

You wait a whole 15 days before the election to hand out your endorsement -- after it's probably a fairly safe bet to figure Obama will win it.

Anyone can jump in at the last minute when it looks like one candidate is going to be the winner and then endorse him. It would have taken more guts to have given Obama your endorsement three months ago -- not just less than three weeks before the election.

I used to admire Colin Powell very much -- until the day I watched his presentation at the U.N. as he lied to the world about Iraq having WMDs. I watched it live on tv that day and clearly remember how embarrassing it was when he showed those phony sketches of what was alleged to be some bio-weapons trailer out in the desert as "proof" the Bush Administration was telling the truth about the need to go to war in Iraq. I remember to this day how I was thinking to myself "That's it?" "That's our "proof"?

The day Powell threw in the towel and joined in with the Neocons to lie about Iraq when he KNEW it wasn't true about the WMDs, he lost all my respect. Powell has always admitted he had serious doubts about Iraq having WMDs.

If Powell was a true patriot and a real American he would have resigned and gone into retirement rather than allow himself to be used as a shill by the Neocons to drum up a need to go to war in Iraq. Powell knew his word carried a lot of weight and would go a long way into having people believe the phony claim of WMDs.

Powell's endorsement means jack crap to me after his UN speech.

Shame too, as he was a good soldier. But he should have walked away from the Neocons instead of letting himself be used by them and losing his credibility and his honor. Powell will always be remembered for his part in helping start the Iraq war.

Powell is a partial racist --- revealed in his endorsement for Obama with liberal talking points.

Whoopi is a racist --- hiding under freedom of speech.

What's wrong, AU? It upsets and surprises you that the majority of the military is supporting McCain?

~Jestsweatin' (along with the oldies)

Gawd yer thick.

It's a well known fact by this point that the military supported two candidates in this election.

Number one was Ron Paul and Obama was close behind him.

Both men opposed the Iraq war.

McCain's continued support fer the failed venture is the major reason he did not pick up the military support that most GOPhers consider their due.

All you Righties got left are lies and smears.

How's that going fer yas?

G08ama G08iden '08.

Be Well.

Gallup Daily Oct 19th:
Obama 52
McCain: 42

AU, one persons asshole is another persons adorable one. Cuts both ways

RIDE ON

Adoring people who's regular style of post is bragging about kicking women in the vagina, spitting at firemen, or calling presidential candidates a niggar are examples of what may be 'adorable' to some.

I wouldn't think that would cut it from either way, but America has some really fucked up people. Some of them even get paid (unwittingly) by their bosses to be that fucked up here all day. Go figure.

Powell is a partial racist --- revealed in his endorsement for Obama with liberal talking points.

~Takethelowroad

Umm, no, Colin's not a partial racist.

You, on the other hand, are a moron.

A TOTAL moron at that.

Well, at least yer consistent.

Be Well.

Powell offered lame excuses and had to insult Sarah to elevate Obama. That is why!

" I remember to this day how I was thinking to myself "That's it?" "That's our "proof"?"

Exact same reaction here.

Powell knew his word carried a lot of weight and would go a long way into having people believe the phony claim of WMDs.

Powell's endorsement means jack crap to me after his UN speech.

CALIFCHRIS

The intel he got from the Bush Administration (scrubbed of the doubts many within the intel commuity had raised about the claims) said Iraq had WMD's.

The same piece of shit intel members of Congress got.

Only those in the White House knew the full intel reports, but they didn't feel like sharing. They wanted a war no matter what.

The intel he got from the Bush Administration (scrubbed of the doubts many within the intel commuity had raised about the claims) said Iraq had WMD's.

The same piece of shit intel members of Congress got.

Only those in the White House knew the full intel reports, but they didn't feel like sharing. They wanted a war no matter what.

The only report on the intell that was available to both houses was the one that they released a day or two before the vote to go to war was held.

Only 9 folks actually took the time to read the non-redacted intel.

All 9 voted against the war.

Spud had a real problem with Hillary when she tried to explain why she wasn't one of those nine.

"That's not the way DC works" she sed.

Implying that the politicking to get the prerequisite votes was already a fait accompli by that point.

Spud got her point there but wasn't much impressed by it.

Spud remebers vividly Colin Powell appearing before the UN with George Tenet on camera over his right shoulder.

Spud approached it with an open mind.

Spud thought it was gonna be like JFK explaining the Cuban Missile Crisis to the country replete with spy sattelite photos of actual bomb sites being built.

In fact, due to the incedible technical progress made since that time Spud was expecting a slam dunk dog and pony show from Colin.

Wot did Colin have instead?

Drawings?!

And a glass vial fulla fake anthrax?!

"You've got to be kidding me" Spud sed to hisself.

Turns out they were.

The BushCo biatches used him and abused him and then tossed his ass to the curb in a manner most shameful.

Spud welcomes his support of Barack Obama even if others are still cheesed at him over his role back in '03.

He's spent the last 5 years in the dawg house fer his failure to grasp the evil that is BushCo.

Spud thinks it's time to let him back out again.

BushCo used Colin shamefully.

Obama can utilize him effectively.

Obama is gonna need some good advice in order to leave Iraq in a timely and non self defeating fashion. Colin can help there.

G08ama!

Be Well.

Fear and Racism the hallmark of the "modern" Republithug party.
"He is not an Arab but a fine father and husband." John McSame
Yes, Arabs and Muslins, even when they are patriotic Americans and fight and die for their country are to be mocked and feared. All the fathers of American Muslin children, tell them now they can never be president, because this country is full of fearful stupid people.

I am John "sell-out" McSame and I approve this message.

Member Navy Veterans for Obama

Go Sox!

My wife was born and raised on Cape Cod. Met her at a Deadshow at Oxford Speedway in ME, July 4,1988.

Live in WA now, just west of Mt. Rainier:

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#152 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-19 02:11 PM

Believe it or not, I'm a born and bred NYer that has had an infatuation with the Redsox since 1981 (thank god for cable). These comebacks NEVER get boring. Enjoy the game tonight!!

Obama is gonna need some good advice in order to leave Iraq in a timely and non self defeating fashion. Colin can help there.

SPUD

Obama's been consulting with him for months about such matters.

Believe it or not, I'm a born and bred NYer that has had an infatuation with the Redsox since 1981 (thank god for cable). These comebacks NEVER get boring. Enjoy the game tonight!!

#171 | Posted by Redsoxfan at 2008-10-19 03:44 PM

Please tell me you agree with the following statement:

Yankees Suck!!!!!

"Says the man who neglected to post the paragraph in his cited 'military poll' that said it was, non diverse, older officers only and not representative of the military as a whole."

It didn't say "officers only," are you really that fuckin' dense? AU. Here, look at pictures...notice age group 18-34 where McCain is favored 65%-27%, notice age group 35 and older where McCain is favored 70%-21%, notice "enlisted," where McCain is favored 67%-24%, notice men favoring McCain 70%-22%, notice women prefering McCain 53%-36%. There is a LOT of info here, AU. Perhaps the pictures will help you.

I got my paragraph from the same Military Times issue the poll you posted came from dude.

"It's a well known fact by this point that the military supported two candidates in this election.

Number one was Ron Paul and Obama was close behind him."

DeadPud, oh, Pudsie boy...we're talking about the military of the U. S. of A. I think you may have been polling the Canadian and/or the French Military. You want to see the pictures of the results of the poll of the UNITED STATES military?

To wit (From the Military Times issue with your poll JEST):

"The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

"I got my paragraph from the same Military Times issue the poll you posted came from dude."

Probably too many big words in there for you. Did the pictures help you out. Did you see where the poll included 18-year olds? Officer AND enlisted? Men AND women? Active-duty and reserve? Pretty comprehensive...no? You haven't been giving credence to DeadPud, have you? Tsk tsk tsk....He's only here to provide entertainment, you know. Friggin' Canadians...they'll all be headin' for Florida and Arizona soon, bitchin' all the way. I'd rather have the illegal Mexicans myself.

So, not so hot a poll.

If you poll any demographic using say, seniors only, you'll get a different result than if you poll just boomers or 18-29 year olds.

This military poll isn't meaningful by any stretch of the imagination. How could it be?

The Military Times stated exactly what I just posted:

"The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

Should be easy to drop your argument it's representative of the military. It SAYS right there it isn't.

Is it too hard for you to read WHAT THE MILITARY TIMES said about their own poll?!

""The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

That's directly from the pages of the Military Times.

God

Gallup said the poll is based on aggregated data from its daily tracking poll between Aug. 5 and Aug. 17, involving more than 11,000 registered voters, including 2,238 military veterans. Veterans are defined as those who are or have been members of the US military. Obama led McCain 46% to 43% among all registered voters during the period.

I Counter With "Military Members That Put Their Money Where There Mouth Is"

Please Read :

Obama leads McCain in military donations, 6-1

During World War II, soldiers crouching in foxholes penned letters assuring their sweethearts that they'd be home soon. Now, between firefights in the Iraqi desert, some infantrymen have been sending a different kind of mail stateside: $200 to $300 -- or whatever they can spare -- toward a presidential election that could very well determine just how soon they come home.
According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions as has Republican John McCain.

The fiercely anti-war Ron Paul -- though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago -- has received more than four times McCain's haul.

Despite McCain's status as a decorated veteran and the historically Republican leanings among the military, members of the armed services overall -- whether stationed overseas or at home -- are favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008 by a $55,000 margin.

Thank you Colin Powell.

Glad there are at least a few intelligent sane people left in the Republican Party.

"The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

I guess they left out the trainees, the Asians, the Muslims and a couple of other ethnic groups. Still, looks like it's pretty well covered to me.

At one point you said "officers only." Then 'splain to me the chart for the enlisted. "Splain to me the chart for the 18-34 year-old group as opposed to the 35 and older group. Are you having trouble with the PICTURES, AU?

Veterans Group Endorses Senator Barack Obama for President
Written by Press Release
Wednesday, 20 August 2008

Washington, D.C. The Council for a Livable World's Veterans Alliance for Security and Democracy (CLW-VETPAC ) announced its endorsement today of Sen. Barack Obama for President.

"Veterans understand what is needed for national leadership," said Paul "Bud" Bucha, chairman of the group's advisory council and a Medal of Honor recipient. "Barack Obama has demonstrated the judgment, energy, integrity, and temperament to be an outstanding commander in chief."

"We are supporting Senator Obama because of his hard work on issues that are important to veterans and military families, especially health care and education," said Lorin Walker, vice president of CLW-VETPAC. Walker pointed to Sen. Obama's proposal for a Military Families Advisory Council as a great step forward in caring for military families.

"The differences between McCain and Obama on veterans issues are clear," Walker added, noting Obama's support and McCain's opposition to the New GI Bill of Rights. "On veterans' issues, Obama is the winner."

"Senator Obama has strongly supported the legislative priorities of many non-partisan veterans groups while McCain has voted against them," said Col. Richard Klass (USAF, ret.), president of CLW-VETPAC, noting that Sen. McCain receives low scores, especially in comparison to Obama, on legislative scorecards put out by the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) and Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA).

DeadPud, oh, Pudsie boy...we're talking about the military of the U. S. of A.

No shit? Well why didn't you say that in the first place?...

Actually, so was Spud.

Yer poll, as AU pointed out already, is flawed.

Talk is cheap, Jester.

In terms of total dollar donations to the Obama camp versus the McCain camp, Obama enjoys a considerable amount more support from the military than McCain despite the fact that McLame acts like he enjoys their total support.

Ready fer another hard truth, Jest?

Obama returns the favor.

Obama supports the troops better than John McCain.

His voting record in re: the troops is far more supportive than McLame's and likewise Obama's support of veterans is more substantive, unlike Yawn McShameless' lip service.

Obama has already proven himself to be a more prescient and aware CiC than Bush (Admittedly, not hard to do) and his judgement is far sharper than ole man McCain's.

Enjoy yer flawed poll though, Jester.

Maybe you can just read it over and over again on November 4th rather than turn on a tv and watch Obama win the election.

^_^

G08ama!

Be Well.

I thought I heard .... a fart in the wind.

Extra smelly, curry flavor, just for you.

Coward. Cute comment, then head for the hills.

Spud thinks it's time to let him back out again.

Potato should think back to the good old days when honor was sacred.

When dishonored (or caught lying), you cut your tummy open and your pal cut off your head at the same time.

I don't see Powell's intestines on the floor.

Why Potato, WHY???!!!

Veterans Group Endorses Senator Barack Obama for President

~Sarge.

Sir, yes sir!

Sarge is back!

Woo Hoo!

Hail, hail, the gang's all here!

Be Well.

I gotta go, so I'll just defer to my little leftist-socialist apostles of the Obamessiah friends here and tell you I will concede when you find and publish a poll showing that OVERALL, the military prefers Obama.

Rachel Maddow Show: John McCain's Terrible Record on Veterans Issues
By SilentPatriot Friday Oct 10, 2008 11:30am

I don't see Powell's intestines on the floor.

Why Potato, WHY???!!!

~Tosser

Cos Spud knows that Powell felt uncomfortable enuff about the information he was presenting to the UN that day that he requested that CIA shitheel George Tenet sit behind him on camera.

Colin Powell thought he was giving good information at that time and only later after the fact learned he had been horribly used.

Spud blames the users not the usee so much.

Obama will need allies in the WH if he is gonna accomplish anything significant. Given the history of Colin Powell and the current administration Spud think Colin would bust his butt working fer Obama if fer no other reason that to restore some semblence of glory to his horribly tarnished legacy.

Thanx fer askin'.

Also, have you ever tried to clean intestines out of a carpet?

Is not easy.

Spud's way makes more sense with less mess.

^_^

Be Well.

I gotta go...

Don't go away mad...

Be Well.

"Enjoy yer flawed poll though, Jester."

What's to enjoy? ALL POLLS are flawed, Pudster. That's why most include a margin of error. Even THAT can easily be flawed. Incidently, by overall "military," I'm referring to active-duty and reserve military as in the "flawed" poll, not all the splinter veterans' groups like VVAW and all.
Everybody play nice now...

JEST

Well excuse me for interpreting 'senior in rank' for officers. I never thought NCO's were considered 'senior in rank' in the pecking order.

Now you're playing semantics.

It can't be clearer than the Military Times put their own spin on their own poll about it being "not representative of the military as a whole" and "less diverse".

This link gives the percentage of minorities in the military on Page 3 (I added them to the nearest whole number):

Army: 45%
Navy: 44%
Marines: 34%

Hi Spud

I Hope All Is Good

That Poll Has A Slant On It And It Is Fully Addressed In The Article The "True" Show Of Force Is In "Cash Flow From The Military. McCain Has A D On Veteran Issues Obama Has A B.

Trust Me Military People "WILL" Vote For Someone They Give Money To.

-Sarge

Those are enlisted numbers

Colin Powell thought he was giving good information at that time and only later after the fact learned he had been horribly used.

Oh, come on now!!!

I have done better stories for my teacher when I couldn't give her my homework.

Also, have you ever tried to clean intestines out of a carpet?

You are supposed to do such things outside... in the backyard someplace. Not in front of the kids watching tv.

See Kill Bill (one) sword fight duel in the tea-house backyard. That should give you ideas.

JESTGETTIN

I'd imagine the NCO's and down who actually do the fighting and heavy lifting aren't as pleased with the use of the military as 'senior ranks' who are desk jockeys with better conditions and pay, insulted from the the effects of the use of force that currently has the military stretched to the breaking point and grunts burned out.

Younger Military Families Closing Ranks Around Obama

QUANTICO, Va. -- One of the largest U.S. marine bases in the world is located in Quantico, a tidy town with scant election fanfare. Everyone who lives here just assumes Republicans have a lock on the military vote. And so when Obama signs began to appear, tongues began to wag.

"At first I was worried about how my neighbors would view it," said former marine corporal Dawn Jennings, 31, who bravely put an Obama sign in the center of her front yard. Jennings told OffTheBus that Quantico is the "kind of place where they'll ask you to remove an Obama bumper sticker from your car."

Barack Obama is promising to make college affordable for all Americans, and this appeals to Jennings. "I can't imagine telling my two kids, "No college for you, because I voted for McCain." She emailed all of her military friends, encouraging them to register two new voters. "It's time to take a stand," said the marine vet. "I want us to be like Michigan -- I'd love to see John McCain quit campaigning in Virginia, too."

Jennings isn't the only Obama supporter in Quantico -- not by a long shot -- and this should raise a red flag for the McCain camp. In hotly contested states with large military populations, these voters can make an impact because they turn out to vote in higher percentages (79/64) than the general public, according to a Rand study.

John McCain assumes he has the military vote -- but does he?

Military Voter Surveys Can Be Misleading

The Military Times recently released its annual survey of subscribers, which shows McCain-Palin enjoying a commanding lead over Obama-Biden (68/23 percent). But this is not a random sample, by any stretch of the imagination. Military Times subscribers are significantly older than the active military population. Nearly half of those surveyed are retirees, and minorities are under-represented.

older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

#179 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-10-19 04:34 PM

Actually that should end the argument completely.

Any similarity between this polled group and the rank & file is nonexsistent.

And before you ask how I come to that conclusion;

6 yrs US Army Infantry, 4th Infantry Division.

Hi Spud

Hi Sarge!

That Poll Has A Slant On It And It Is Fully Addressed In The Article The "True" Show Of Force Is In "Cash Flow From The Military.

Damn straight. The slant or flaw was obvious to all but the oblivious. Follow the monet trail is the key. Money talks, bullshit walks.

McCain Has A D On Veteran Issues Obama Has A B.

Good to hear.

Trust Me Military People "WILL" Vote For Someone They Give Money To.

Agreed. It's called putting yer money where yer mouth is.

I Hope All Is Good

The Obama/Biden ticket that Spud dared to dream of way back when is now a solid reality and due to win by double digits on November 4th despite all the race baiting tactics that Rove and McShameless and Rush could come up with.

So, in short... All is Well.

Thanx fer askin'.

Be Well.

Coward. Cute comment, then head for the hills.

#186 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 04:53 PM

I don't live here dipstick.

Funny, a man who's chosen religion advocates the violent oppression of women, and who is on the internet, 6700 miles away, calls me a coward.

What a pussy.

Nice to see ya back, Sarge.

chosen religion advocates the violent oppression of women

It does??? More than in the Bible???

Sure about that? LOL

What does America advocate? Stealing petrol from people who can't defend themselves.

Like taking candy from a baby.

Btw, I call you a coward because you wear the same uniform of the people who bomb civilians from 10,000 feet and when they are dead, you say "we killed 50 Taliban!"

I am calling your professional manhood into question punk.

I can be a coward... so what? I have nothing to prove since I don't wear a uniform and am not a show-off. I love the internet. It is the Swiss Army Knife of cowards. LOL

'oooo please look at me... I serve!'

6 yrs US Army Infantry, 4th Infantry Division.

Which means you would lie at the UN too if God had made you a General. LOL

Are you proud of your service? Have you won any merit badges lately? How many knots can you tie?

This shouldn't come as any surprise, Powell is and always has been a liberal. Decrying that the republican party has moved to the 'right', is laughable, McCain is to the left of most Blue Dog democrats. And the democratic party is unrecogizable in it is hard lurch to the extreme left.

Powell is just a guy, having grown up in the military the first 24 years of my life, and having seen many of the top brass in the navy and army up close and personal, I can tell you that they are just people who are fallible and make mistakes.

Obviously Powell just proved that.

Powell feels he made a mistake at the UN and this is part of his evolution to the left since that point. And maybe, just maybe, he is angling for another spot in an Hussein administration, one that he feels wouldn't be there under a McCain
regime.

Powell feels he made a mistake at the UN

Well this "mistake" cost at least 600,000 Iraqi lives.

Those lives would have been lost anyway, I am sure, but he made it easy and history associates his name with it.

I would never hire such a person for my company. Hell, I have even got rid of people who smoke cigarettes. LOL

He should have let the intestines out.

he is angling for another spot in an Hussein administration

What a shameless person.

Ever considered to apologize in public to the Iraqi people about how he sold his soul for their blood?

Ever write about it? No?

Shameless person wants another job?

SNIFF< Tosser called me a coward!!! My life has no meaning!!!!! WAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!

By the way Pigfucker, I've been out of the Army for 28 yrs.

TOSSER

Give it a rest. Powell spoke based on the intel the Bush Administration gave him. Intel scrubbed of any doubts many within the Intel community raised about the veracity of what they considered highly doubtful claims of WMD's. Bush and Co duped Powell.

So, please drop that line of talk. Powell is and has been an honest man. He was a duped as the rest of America. As Secretary of State he was not on the inside of the Pentagon, who were in on the plans to invade Iraq via Rumsfeld the day George W Bush took office. They were looking for an excuse to take out Saddam and 9/11 provided the perfect excuse to get the ball rolling while America was in shock.

I'm finding your line of talk very offensive.

All Intel went through the White House before anyone else got it. Everyone else who wasn't in on the plan to invade Iraq got what they wanted them to get to make their case.

It does??? More than in the Bible???
Sure about that? LOL
#204 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 05:47 PM

Who cares about the Bible, it's mythology, I've been an atheist for over 30 years.

Stop making even more of an ass out of yourself.

TOSSER

Read this:

TOSSER

And this article is part of how the intelligence community came to their faulty conclusions. I don't know if this article contains the fact that this is where many in the intel community had grave doubts about the sources for this info regarding Saddam's WMD program

Remember, the UN wanted 2 more months to inspect and Bush kicked them out and went to war anyway despite the fact they'd found no evidence of WMD's in Iraq.

The doubts within the intelligence community never saw the light of day beyond the White House.

I've been out of the Army for 28 yrs.

Then why mention it at all, loser?

Give it a rest.

No.

Powell spoke based on the intel the Bush Administration gave him.

Yes. And he joined in with full knowledge of the manure being sold as gold.

Read this:

www.cbsnews.com

American news source.

Garbage.

So, please drop that line of talk.

No.

He was a duped as the rest of America.

Then you are easy to dupe.

I'm finding your line of talk very offensive.

Setting the stage for killing 600,000 Iraqis is what I find very offensive.

Another good source is The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder by Vince Bugliosi.

Great book!

Who cares about the Bible

Most of your fellow Americans do.

War-Chimp does. So does Mogambo.... unless he really is a stealth-muslim.

TOSSER

Blame Bush. He's the one who rushed to war. Why? Because they'd always wanted to and weren't about to let anyone stop them.

Even the former head of the Africa desk at the National Security Agency, Joe Wilson, who went to Africa to meet with the Nigerian Minister of Mines (who he knew well), came back and told Bush the Iraqis DID NOT buy more enriched uranium from them to weaponize.

He's the guy who finally came out publicly when Bush still used that 'looming mushroom clouds' line in the State of The Union address.

What did Bush and Co do? They outed his wife, Valarie Plame, undercover CIA agent.

Bush and CO shut up anyone who stood in their way. 100's of career intelligence people quit in disgust or were forced out if they didn't toe the company line so to speak.

Blame Bush and his cronies. Powell was not among his cronies. Powell argued with Bush vehemently against going to war.

Who cares about the Bible

Most of your fellow Americans do.

War-Chimp does. So does Mogambo.... unless he really is a stealth-muslim.

#216 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-10-19 06:26 PM

Yes,but you directed your post towards me. Which goes to show you don't know jack fucking shit about me or America.

"Who cares about the Bible....?"

Perhaps the single most politically brain-dead statement I've seen posted ever, anywhere.

A little wile ago I heard Pat Buchanan pretty much say that he's not surprised because "those people" ALWAYS stick together.

"Thursday marks one year since Secretary Powell's U.N. speech. In that time, Thielmann has come to his own conclusion about the presentation. He believes the decision to go to war was made - and intelligence was interpreted to fit that conclusion.

"There's plenty of blame to go around. The main problem was that the senior administration officials have what I call faith-based intelligence. They knew what they wanted the intelligence to show," says Thielmann.

"They were really blind and deaf to any kind of countervailing information the intelligence community would produce. I would assign some blame to the intelligence community and most of the blame to the senior administration officials.""

The atheists aren't the one giving Obama a ten point Gallup lead today. Whatever your epistemological leanings, you have to pay attention to this.

Yes,but you directed your post towards me. Which goes to show you don't know jack fucking shit about me

I don't need to activate more than two brain cells to figure you out. A has-been who once wore a uniform. Case closed.

Do you know anything about me? Do you? LOL

Another good source is The Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder by Vince Bugliosi.

Great book!

#215 | Posted by briwo

Great book! Did you see the C-SPAN Books piece Bugliosi did. Speech and Q & A.

TOSSER

Please check out the links I posted above on Powell and the UN speech regarding intel being cooked to fit Bush and Co' agenda.

One from the Guardian UK and the other CBS News.

Setting the stage for killing 600,000 Iraqis is what I find very offensive.

#214 | Posted by Tosser

That makes you, me, and a couple hundred million other Americans. He stated what he was told to be fact.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz (asst. Sec of State) are the ones who set the stage. They wrote the script too.

I hated the war since before it began myself. I'm sad it happened at all.

Blame Bush and his cronies. Powell was not among his cronies. Powell argued with Bush vehemently against going to war.

He made the case. He is as guilty.

Perhaps, if I can believe you (which I don't), he is only guilty of being stupid... but he is guilty of setting the stage for the petrol-murders of 600,000 Iraqis.

I blame the American people too. There is such a concept as collective guilt. There is such a concept as guilt by stupidity and gullibility. You could have made your democracy work better.. the 'democracy' you try to lecture us on every now and then.

And your lousy FAILING and CORRUPT political system isn't good enough to give you a better choice of candidates. All you got is Mogambo and a crazy old fart with a MILF.

Some choice.

He stated what he was told to be fact.

Then he must still believe in the tooth fairy.

Such trust in your bosses is... charming... and touching.

One from the Guardian UK

I read this one.

I have no desire to read the American one.

"Curveball" is going to be blamed for everything now? LOL

Intel has checks and balances and verifications up to the eyeballs.

It isn't that simple.

a couple hundred million other Americans.

200 million Americans are good guys?

Which makes 100 million Americans petrol-murder supporters.

OK.

We are quite sure that out of 1.5 Billion Muslims (of all sorts) only a few 100,000 at the most are crazy. Most of them being Wahabi.

These numbers tell me something.

Do they tell you something?

"Curveball" is going to be blamed for everything now? LOL

No. It's only one element about one set of WMD claims. But, since you won't read American investigative reports about the rest of it that's where it's left....

Bush and Co. picked the intel that helped their case to go to war and kept the intelligence that didn't out of view from everyone but those in their inner circle of 4 or 5 people, not including Powell. That's it in a nutshell.

Which makes 100 million Americans petrol-murder supporters.

Not unless you count children and the very old.

The American public except for a few whackos now knows Bush lied to get us into the war on false premises.

Bush and Co. picked the intel that helped their case to go to war

First they are incompetent and then they are geniuses.

make up your mind already.

Bush and Co. picked the intel that helped their case to go to war
First they are incompetent and then they are geniuses.
make up your mind already.
~Eb

LOL

Where do you see them as geniuses?

So Powell now likes a liberal?

That is hilarious.

And he doesn't like Scalia Roberts Alito or Thomas?

He gave money to McCain's campaign in the past.

He is friends with McCain for the last--what?--20 years?

With friends like this who needs enemies?

Other than Powell is picking Obama for the color of his skin...

There are two words that come to mind--

"Pay Back"

"Pay back" for what?

Other than Powell is picking Obama for the color of his skin...

#234 | Posted by MURPHY at

It's here now as well, "those people" ALWAYS stick together.

NoGov-
Rush Limbaugh said it, so it must be true. Powell's decision had nothing to do with the explicit and forcefully presented reasons Powell stated...

McAnkles working on the absurd assumption McFossil could wins.

'Pay back' would seem to be a natural assignment for Caribou Barbi.

After all it maybe the only thing in which she has a lot of experience.

"Pay Back" from Powell is to the Repub party and Bush and others for the UN speech Powell gave.

The proof is that he worries about appointing two more conservative justices--per Powell.

Roberts and Alito were approved overwhemingly.

Therefore--Powell is and never was a right of center person.

Either that or he is voting for Obama based on the color of his skin.

He really tricked everyone now didn't he?

Despite the possibility that Powell might be somehow useful he should be left in the outer darkness he earned for himself. He has admitted that he had doubts about the intel, and he knew the WH needed his credibility. He knew he was being used. It is conceivable that he could have stopped the war entirely. He betrayed the American people by choosing his loyalty to the command structure rather than to us. He should be drowned in a vat of spit.

Murphy-
According to you, he is either "scratch a black, find a racist", or he was a liberal mole for 72 years.

Both of these half-backed opinions make you look like a vindictive and petty asshole. I will cut you some slack because I realize from my interactions with you that you don't have an original thought in your head and are merely mimicking the statements of people who should know better. :)

"He really tricked everyone now didn't he?

#239 | Posted by MURPHY "

Possibly, Goofy, but you'll never trick anyone into thinking you're anything but a total airhead.

I have learn a long time ago Generals come and go. Not many of them go into government. The pay is not as good as the outside world.

It's my belief that Powell feels like he was used when it came to the intell about Iraqi.

As for the Military Times(Navy/Marine/Army/Air Force) they have never been on the right. Most of their reporting is either to the left or maybe far left. Support the Troops, well I do not think so.
YN1 USN (ret).

"He really tricked everyone now didn't he?

#239 | Posted by MURPHY "

Except you, of course Murphy.

Either that, or you haven't got a genuinely independent thought in your head.

Just as predictably, Rush Limbaugh chimes in:
Rush Limbaugh said "Colin Powell's decision to get behind Barack Obama appeared to be very much tied to Obama's status as the first African-American with a chance to become president."

calling Rush an asshole is not an insult, just a factual statement!

I have nothing but respect for Colin Powell. He thought through this decesion thoughfuly and clearly and I agree with his decision.

The American public except for a few whackos now knows Bush lied to get us into the war on false premises.

Do they get it??? Do they REALLY get it??? What has been done in their names? You keep saying they do, but I....

I have nothing but respect for Colin Powell. He thought through this decesion thoughfuly and clearly and I agree with his decision.

Well lookit THAT!

Brilliant. LOL

"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."

-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

#25 | Posted by Zatoichi

best post here by far...& I read 'em all including the seemly terminally idiotic Murphy's mutterings

"that was payback, Murph...I hope you understand":>)

He then went into a discussion of the mother grieving her son, a Muslim-American born in Jersey who was 14 when 9/11 occurred and 20 when killed in Iraq.

Name "Sultan Khan".

Pakistani name.

Pakistani name.

I wanted to point that out since Americans have immense difficulty in understanding the differences between Arabs, Iranians, Asians, etc.

Is Tosser a Pak or Pac name?

What is a 'pac' name, pray tell?

Hu?:>)

A gin-u-wine PHD? #117 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-10-19 11:56 AM

A Ph.D.? Yes, indeed. As rock-solid as your GIN-YOU-WHINE status as a swinette player. Go piggies, go piggies, go piggies, go!

I almost wish I could say I'm sorry for your loss. But, as you can imagine, I'm not.

Colin Powell hammers in the last nail as John McCain leaps over the shark with his stoopid remarks about "socialism."

Bye, bye, birdie.

Colin Powell destroyed the last hope John McCain had to defeat Barack Obama and become president. I have never heard such a devastating and thoroughgoing critique of McCain's issue-free, fear-mongering campaign. While Powell's endorsing Obama on "Meet the Press" Sunday was expected, the way he did it was stunning.

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld treated Colin Powell like he was their house n***er so I always knew there was going to be a payback of some kind.

When, where or how I wasn't sure.

But this one suits me just fine.

Gosh! What a surprise. Another black person engaging in racial identity politics, and being influenced by the racial component.

If whites were as inherently racist a blacks then Obama's efforts would have been futile from the get-go.

Well, racial preferences are now an ingrained aspect of the American scene with "affirmative action," a euphemism for racial preferences and de facto quotas being accepted as an intrinsic positive value rather than a manifestation of unacceptable prejudice.

Here we have Obama's history of a 20 year association with a racist hate-monger as his mentor, guide, and friend (so that Obama himself is indoctrinated as a racist as verified by his other involvements), ignored in the service of dispelling racism as a factor in American life. Actually, this initial dismissal of black racism as a disqualifying factor in politics will eventually have a reverse effect and polarize society. Rather than bringing racial harmony, the disparity in treatment and distribution of wherewithal under a black's administration will focus on the disparity.

Obama has stated he is for open, ethical and accountable government. That being said, is there any way we could obtain all records of correspondence which have taken place between Obama's senate office and his relative Odinga in Kenya? Would someone know how to make an open records request for this information? Corsi did obtain some emails in Kenya, but I don't think we have time to wait for his next book to come out.

I love how everyone who is associated with or endorses "obama and the technicolor dreamcoat" is now credible. You libs were all over powell when he was speaking out for the war now - typical libs. Pitiful, just pitiful. You guys have any scruples left? My guess - no.

I love how everyone who is associated with or endorses "obama and the technicolor dreamcoat" is now credible. You libs were all over powell when he was speaking out for the war now - typical libs. Pitiful, just pitiful. You guys have any scruples left? My guess - no.

Sorry for the double.

I saw the t-shirt ad on this site:

"Once you go Barack, you never go back"

Mine is...

"Once you go Barack, you STAY on crack"

How many unqualified very liberal white candidates does Mr. Powell support?

Well now that Powell has proven that his color is mor important than his country, I take back my declaration that were he running for President I would happily vote for him. I don't vote for racists and sexists and he has now proven he is both a racist and a sexist.

A shame to sell out your career and your country for a couple of more minutes of fame.

Well, time to go to the Post Office and mail in our votes for McCain/Palin and against Dickless Durbin.

You libs were all over powell when he was speaking out for the war now - typical libs. Pitiful, just pitiful.

#262 | Posted by ELCIDCE90 at

Yeah, kind of like when you righties quote Bill Clinton to justify slaughtering brown people or link to an article from the New York Times. I agree, simply pitiful. . .

Sorry I don't for a second beleive that crap.

Colin Powell is an old soldier. He could have blown Bush out of the water once he detected the build up to the war was a lie. Instead he kept his mouth shut and fell on his sword (I too have mixed feelings about his actions). After the first administration he resigned.

But to say Colin Powell only endorsed Obama because of race? Without a direct statement from Colin, you get no-sell here.

You might try foxnews.com to sell that hyperpole.

You wouldn't understand, it's a military thing.

AMERICANUNITY

You need to change your handle/name.

Please give me an example where you stand for American Unity? You are a far left talking points bulletin board.

Your stance in VERY basic.

Dems / Libs = Good
Reps / Cons = Bad

I'm sure you hated Powell before he came out for Obama, now you defend him. PLEEEEEASE.

So Powell was just a dumb shit who read what they told him to read????? Do you think that government is like 2nd grade and that he had to read what ever the teacher told him to? If you believe that Powell didnt know exactly what and why he was reading something, then you need to wake up from fairytale land. Are you really THAT naive?

You can go ahead and attack my politcal stance however I have posted numerous times that I consider myself moderate. I do not like Obama or McCain.

I just find it over the top when people such as your self are so transparent.

I bet when Obama gets elected (especially since thing are trending that way) you expect the world to be pots of gold, rainbows and gumdrop skies.

Wake up. Both parties are dirty and corrupt and tied to big business. Their decisions are predicated by who helped put them into office. Obama just raised $150 million in 1 month. Where do you think the $$$$ came from?

The problem is with people on both sides of the spectrum, Dems and Reps that think their party does no wrong. We need a 3rd party, make lobbying illegal and change from an electoral college to the popular vote.

pay close attention to the beginning of the interview

when asked to tour the horizon, brokow listed all the things wrong and asked powell if there were a time when we had so many things going wrong
and powell said NO but there was a time when things were worse and he mentioned the early 70's with nixon, watergate, and nam,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN........let us now rememeber what we got out of those times

jimmy carter and one of the most failed presidencies in our history

thank you general powell for that history lesson and lets see if we learned anything from it

and lets also see if the mccain campaign has enough snap to use it

andby the way..,.just read that michael powell is not only voting for mccain but is out actively campaiging..........so I guess his vote will counter his old mans

and lets listen closely to one more thing powell said

he called obama a 'transformational figure' and he, if elected, means that all of us dirty old bastard white people can rid ourselves of all that guilt about slavery..............in other words
ITS aLWAYS BEEN ABOUT RACE

ITS aLWAYS BEEN ABOUT RACE

Only.......to........Old.....B astard......White......BOGOTS!
!!!!!!!!!!!

wrong again buzzard breath

why do you think bill clinton STILL sullks in his tent???

because obama surrogates painted the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" as a racists................thats according to charles kraauthammer and he is EXACTLY RIGHT...........

The fat, drug-abusing windbag Limbaugh favors us with his thoughts on this and says he's researching to discover "inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed". Leave out the "very liberal"(for the time being) and you come up with none other than George Walker Bush who has been so stupid and so useless that his 8-year Residency has produced the "very liberal" policies that make Limbaugh overeat even more to console himself.

and also mention what he said about when people were talking about a powell run for the office.

he NEVER told anyone which party he would run in........

look.......the endorsement is probably the biggest one barry has recieved to date by AGAIN.,.......if you listened REAL Close to his comments about the early 70s and WHAT SHIT WE GOT OUT OF THAT........

and you understand that its STILL ABOUT race

at least to some degree

and rememebr this too, compliments of rush

powell is remembered now for his speech to the UN before iraq and this could be a 'legacy' move........

maybe we should all get on youtube and look and listen to democrats all talking about how the two fannies are all okay and we should leave them alone

thanks for the idea, mister bani

and I wonder how the general feels about biden who voted against the gulf war.............I guess it really doesnt matter though

Powell's UN presentation will always be a stain on an otherwise exemplary life. He knows that. He says now that if he had known then that the intelligence about WMD was wrong he wouldn't have done it. But he knew at the time that a lot of the intelligence was coming not from the CIA but from DOD and Cheney by way of Chalabi and the other Iraqi exile crooks. He must have known too that the intelligence that did come from the CIA was unduly influenced and cherry-picked by Cheney. So he doesn't get a pass.

As a military man he respected the chain of command too much and Bush did lie to him about his true intentions even if he's too loyal to say so.

Americans will weigh Powell's life and contributions to making America a better place against his involvement with the Bush/Cheney cabal and conclude that on balance they still respect him. This one does, anyway.

But Powell did say that he endorsed Obama because of his race, didn't he?

I've always despised Powell as an arrogant product of an affirmative action environment, an opportunist who sees a chance to advance his career in yet another administration.

Validation. Validation.

Johnson-
re: "But Powell did say that he endorsed Obama because of his race, didn't he?"

No, he didn't. Powell gave a whole host of reasons, and I can get you the link to Powell's statements if you desire to cure your bleating ignorance. Really, I'd be happy to help.

But, of course, you see Powell as " an arrogant product of an affirmative action environment, an opportunist...", so I don't think you really need more information. In fact, more information would just confuse your hatred.

Yessirree. Powell is for DIVERSITY and INCLUSION. And that's what he sees Obama as bringing by being black, I suppose.

Quote: "I think Sen. Obama has captured the feelings of the young people of America and is reaching out in a more diverse, inclusive way across our society."

It's another racial identity thing couched is evasive language.

And here is Powell saying that "character doesn't count," and dismissing the Ayers connection as "a trivial matter." You can't dismiss such cogent matters so blithely there Mr. Powell. It's true that we live in a "different strokes for colored folks" society, but a man being nurtured by a career racist hate-monger such as Rev. Wright, and Communist Party apparatcheks, does have significacne in the formation of a person's being. I wonder if Powell would be so indulgent if a KuKluxKlan member or member of an Aryan Brotherhood white racist church were the candidate? I doubt it.

Johnson-
I missed the quote from Powell where, as you stated, he said that "character doesn't count".

Allow me to say, before I ignore you possibly forever, that you are the most bile filled racist I've run across lately.

when he called obama a transformational figure

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT RACE..............transformed into a post slavery mindset.......

I dont know if he supports him because they are both black or not because HIS OWN SON SUPPORTS MCCAIN and I have too much respect for the general to think that anyway...........but HERE IS ONE THING TO REMEMBER

during the scooter libby stuff

POWELL KNEW IT WASNT HIM AND DIDNT COME FORWARD...

and that WILL BE a stain against him as far as I am concerned............well that and him supporting the most LIBERAL senator in the senate

because obama surrogates painted the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" as a racists...............

Dream on...........Bill is still sulking because Hillary didn't get the party flag..........At all cost don't go the the most obvious answer when You can play a little bigotry into the mix................

Powell is voting strickly based on race. He is complete SELL OUT hoping to get a cabinet position in the never-going-to-be Obama administration. Powell is as about as Republican as Nancy Pelosi.

POWELL KNEW IT WASNT HIM AND DIDNT COME FORWARD...
and that WILL BE a stain against him as far as I am concerned.....

But carrying lies to the UN was all just swell as it got us into the wrong war.

In the long run Scooter was destined to be the fall guy for the administration it was Bush & Co's choosing.

For many repubs, inwardly they will consider Powell as a washed up Republican and avoid his company --- not that Powell will need them, but he will live in secret discomfort for the rest of his life.

He was very uncomfortable when reciting his Declaration of Independence, I mean liberal talking points in defending fellow Black Obama.

aint buying what you are selling zat.

I just am having a hard time containing my excitement about

NO YANKEES OR RED SOX TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO AND WATCH...................

and remember as I said earlier

his vote is countered BY HIS OWN SONS

who by the way was given a job in government under the urging to president clinton by

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN............

RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!

#284 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-10-20 03:26 PM

Johnson-
I missed the quote from Powell where, as you stated, he said that "character doesn't count".

Of course, being aware of all of this, Powell endorses a demirep, so he shows that he considers that "character doesn't count." That's Powell's position. Too complicated for you? Well, that's okay. I recognize that you won't be divested of entrenched ideas since it's simpler to associate your candidate with "good" and dispense with evidence.

Parenthetically, you do know that Obama is the compendium of a model for a person afflicted with schizophrenia with lessened affect and self-medicating himself with nicotine. Oh, and keep in mind his sing-song presentation.

And Obama is a threat with the Cult of the Personality being built around him, a narcissist with borderline personality disorder, and a predilection toward psychosis which will only provide for him greater delusions of grandeur if he receives partial validation of his fantasies. This represents the genesis for authoritarian control of the state as evidenced by those similar to him with narcissistic borderline personality disorder (but without the psychotic element), Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-il.

Allow me to say, before I ignore you possibly forever, that you are the most bile filled racist I've run across lately.

Oh? That doesn't count?

Your allegation of my racism is based on your embellishment of what I say to fit your conclusion. If you examine anything that I've posted, it's never contained hatred, but rather a detached examination posing questions, and recommending examination of materials so as to devise a model consistent with realities that might provide a better outcome for all people in our society. Of course, you may redefine "racism" to mean whatever you please so that you may designate any position or behavior as "racist" - from your perspective, of course. Ho hum.

who gives a fuck what that coward says.

come back to us when you have admitted to lying to the UN.

You had your chance to do right.

Thank you Powell for finally doing the white thang!

CHITOWNGUY

I am for national unity. However, the lunatic right fringe doesn't seem to want that. They've done their very best at denigrating fellow Americans for 15 years. When they got power they acted like assholes, shut out the loyal opposition and made a mess of our country.

The lunatic right has absolutely no desire for a unified America under any pretense. There is a list a mile long of a hundred million Americans who, in their view, aren't Americans.

Day after day the screaming corp of right wing hosts give ample evidence of their prejudice, never giving their listeners a single moment of pause in their relentless hate filled diatribes against fellow Americans. I was deeply offended day after day by being called a traitor for opposing a war most Americans think we should have never fought.

Johnson-
You put the statement in quotes, and attributed it to Powell.

Per Joseph Biden on an Obama presidency as reported from ABC News:

"Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

this could be the kiss of death for dems - now if condi chimes in...

NANC

As usual a Democratic President will be blamed by the right for the mess the Republicans left.

How anyone can claim America is better off after the last 8 years can only be blamed on drugs or mental illness.

It may take a generation to undo the mountainous pile of wreckage Bush and the NeoCon's made of the shiny new car they got inherited in 2001. I hope it'll be a long time before America wants them behind he wheel again.

FF for NANC~ I was thinking about that last nite:>)

One more thought:

Powell not only gave a ringing endorsement of Obama for President, but he also gave a thorough repudiation of what the GOP's become, and of McCain's campaign tactics.

The GOP would do better to look inward and change their ways rather than point fingers at someone else.

I said before...what's the big deal? Since the beginning, Powell has been strong for affirmative action, abortion "rights" and every other leftist issue. On top of that, we have 95% of black voters supporting a black candidate so what in hell did anyone expect Powell was going to do? Personally, I'm not the slightest bit surprised or impressed with his endorsement. I don't consider him a turncoat or anything like that. He has NEVER been a conservative, so he just did what was natural for him.

Then - Powell - Evil Bushy - Crony

Today - Powell - Endorses Obama - Hero

The left amazes me everyday.

How anyone can claim America is better off after the last 8 years can only be blamed on drugs or mental illness.

Or hard work. Spending less time yapping on the computer. Saving money instead of buying 70" plasmas. How anyone can claim an Obama Presidency will change their life for the better has to be mentally challenged or on drugs. If you are a loser the last eight years, you will be a loser the next. The POTUS has very, very little effect on your life. I know it seems dems feel better blaming Bush for their failures in life. Who will they blame for their guaranteed failures after Bush?

so now powell's a dino?

"The GOP would do better to look inward and change their ways rather than point fingers at someone else."

Ka ching! AU got one right. The GOP isn't even a shadow of the real GOP. Bigger government, higher spending, "earmarks" etc. etc. Hell, Bush didn't veto a single spending bill his first six years in office. But then, of course, the Democrat Party today isn't a shadow of the party of Truman or JFK either. What is a poor conservative to do? Or a REAL liberal for that matter. They are both too far gone to correct, we need the emergence of a third party....the Libertarian Party? I wish we had some running in the local elections.

so now powell's a dino?

No he is black. You can take the black out of the ghetto, but you can't take the....

"Then - Powell - Evil Bushy - Crony

Today - Powell - Endorses Obama - Hero

The left amazes me everyday."

Ha, that's nothing. Don't you remember the years of Bill Clinton worship? That poor sap LIVES under the bus nowadays.

That poor sap LIVES under the bus nowadays.

Bubba is homeless?

When did that happen?

"Bubba is homeless?"

Nawww....he lives in that big estate in New York that his little friends purchased for him when they still adored him. They threw him under the bus when the Obamessiah appeared on the scene. He's under there with Reverend Wright, Rezko, Farrakhan, Ayers and some of the others The Obamessiah has cast off.

Oh. That bus.

CRISPEE

The POTUS does have an effect on the working man. The WH signed onto new legislation by the GOP Congress that hurt American workers:

-Tax credits given employers to repay costs for shipping whole factories to China and Mexico.

-Rule changes in H-1B workers. I was in NYC a few months ago. Thousands of Indian and Chinese H-1B 'temporary' workers here in the U.S. who've replaced Americans in the financial district in NYC.

So, it's not only been 'outsourcing', but 'insourcing' as well.

-Lack of enforcement by the INS against employers hiring illegal workers.

In one industry, for example - meat processing - tens of thousands of $17 an hour jobs now done by illegals for $5 an hour.

Many other examples.

20 million "living wage" jobs created under Clinton.
Losses of millions of good paying jobs under Bush.

Wow. Finally really seeing the "right" showing their true stripes. Are you really that clueless as to how you look, or do you just not care anymore?

I wish you had enough sense to be ashamed. At least then there could be hope for you.

Bill is still sulking because Hillary didn't get the party flag.

Bill's not sulking. He's all over Nevada holding rallies and meetings for Obama.

I'm surpised that the media hasn't figured out (including Keith Olbermann) that Rush Limbaugh actually said "Genital Powell". Check Youtube. It's all there.

#296 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-10-20 04:15 PM

Johnson-
You put the statement in quotes, and attributed it to Powell.

But Powell did say that he endorsed Obama because of his race, didn't he?

JOHNSON

You remind me of that TV commercial for laundry detergent where the guy at the job interview has a stain on his shirt and all the interviewer hears is "bla ma bmglyer gooba shlm yada yada blmpzhie ..."

Unless you were watching a show that looked like MTP with a guy who looked like Powell, but wasn't, you weren't watching the same show the rest of us did.

Why? Because Powell never said that. In fact, he denied it specifically then went on to explain in detail why he supports Obama and then went on to thoroughly repudiate what the GOP's become while repudiating McCain's campaign tactics - the same used against McCain in SC 2000.

You never even saw MTP yesterday, did you? Answer in one short paragraph and I may even read your reply.

October 20, 2008
First Colin Powell, Now

Ken Adelman is a lifelong conservative Republican. Campaigned for Goldwater, was hired by Rumsfeld at the Office of Economic Opportunity under Nixon, was assistant to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld under Ford, served as Reagan's director of arms control, and joined the Defense Policy Board for Rumsfeld's second go-round at the Pentagon, in 2001. Adelman's friendship with Rumsfeld, Cheney, and their wives goes back to the sixties, and he introduced Cheney to Paul Wolfowitz at a Washington brunch the day Reagan was sworn in.

In recent years, Adelman and his friends Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz fell out over his criticisms of the botching of the Iraq War. Still, he remains a bona-fide hawk ("not really a neo-con but a con-con") who has never supported a Democrat for President in his life. Two weeks from now that's going to change: Ken Adelman intends to vote for Barack Obama. He can hardly believe it himself.

General Blind Spots--Powell

It's absolutely rib tickling watching the lunatic right squirm over this.

Powell is hardly the only conservative Republican supporting Obama.

Had Powell endorsed McCain the rhetoric about Powell would be completely different today, "He's a real patriot" blah blah blah.

Listen to these fine Afro-Americans also endorsing Obama. Does stupid grow on trees?

Now if Powell had endorsed McCain you wouldn't see all these right wing assholes whinning about there both black, he voted for the war and a million other excuses. I don't blame Powell for not running for President, its not worth the bullshit you get from poeople like Rush Limbaugh, Shawn,flat head Hannery, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn dick Beck, Lou, skinhead Dobbs and the like. Public service has tuned into wars of the media today.

Now that is what I call a great American hero...
betrays his so called "longtime friend" John Mc Cain for racist and sexist reasons AND betrays his own Flesh and Blood by deserting his own Son who is supporting John McCain... yes a real hero and family man, just like all of the rest of the NOBama scum...

Farrakhan, Wright, Frank Davis, Ayres, Powell... great Communist heros.

By the way, all of you clowns who say that Ayres is repentent, why is he consulting with Hugo Chavez to design a new education system for Chavez' country designed after the Communist educational system of Bolivia?

Maybe NOBama will make him Secretary of Education so the USA can have a Communist educational system too....
can't wait to see my Grandkids coming home with tomes written by Marx, Lenin, Mao, etc.... while being taught that Christianity is evil and atheism is what they should believe in, just like NOBama's Mama was taught at the Mercer Island WA High School by their Communist teachers and Superintendent of Schools.