first second or third!

nice job...nanc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AS ALWAYS

The vending machine at my work has a sticker on the inside wall that says "Union Made." I've decided that this is why I see M&M's stuck hanging there three times a week.

so tonights the last debate

going to be pissed if mccain doesnt come out smoking about ayers and wright and acorn and lies after lies from obama starting with his PLEDGE To take federal money.........

as well as mccain just carrying a sign when obama talks about the economy........just carry a sign with his answer to the plumber earlier this week.........

PREDICTION..........after tonight........IF he is let loose.......the numbers will tighten up

Wi. Govenor Jim Doyle reported budget shortfalls today, and singles out the $1.25 per pack Cigarette tax as the problem. He noted that State Cigarette sales are down, and voter registration is up.

IF he is let loose

By who?

Who OWNS your candidate? Besides Obama that is......

"The vending machine at my work has a sticker on the inside wall that says "Union Made." I've decided that this is why I see M&M's stuck hanging there three times a week."

Of course: It was the assembly...it couldn't possibly be the design.

What do they teach you in law school about 'facts not in evidence'?

""going to be pissed if mccain doesnt come out smoking about ayers and wright and acorn and lies after lies from obama starting with his PLEDGE To take federal money........."""

Tit for tat bl, I doubt that the palin-mccain glass house could stand the assault. Add palin's husband's multiple gaffes combined with cindy's checkered background and your ticket is toast. Plus people are just plain fucking tired of the innuendos and empty personal attacks.

Save it for the cross burning Adolf

Does anyone here play "Settlers of Catan"? If you are playing and the bank has no resource cards, what happens? I have heard conflicting ideas: Either no one gets resources if there are not enough for all or the player that rolled gets his resources then the person to his left and so forth until there are no more resources, thus screwing the person to the right of the roller. Those 2 are the answers I have heard the most, but my friends and I say its fair game to just grab the resources and if you are slow you are out of luck.

I have not found an answer in my rule book.

Save it for the cross burning Adolf

#12 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2008-10-15 12:16 PM |

Adolf wasn't into burning crosses so much, he had a penchant for Jews.

Cowboys acquire WR Williams in trade with Lions

5 cops allege pregnancy bias

In lawsuit, female officers say city illegally refused to assign them light duty.

Paul Egan and George Hunter / The Detroit News

Cool. The makers of M&M's has joined up with Skittles to market for the up-n-coming election.

S&M get it now before it's gone.

Dumb song:
Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.

Great song:
Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

Tit for tat bl, I doubt that the palin-mccain glass house could stand the assault. Add palin's husband's multiple gaffes combined with cindy's checkered background and your ticket is toast. Plus people are just plain fucking tired of the innuendos and empty personal attacks.

#11 | Posted by panchovilla at 2008-10-15 12:16 PM | Reply

Wait til Americans find out about her 83 IQ and 30 percentile on the SAT's. Not to mention the 5 or so colleges she dropped out of.

Yet another excellent Frontline program, this is for people who thought they knew all about Obama and McCain.

Andy:

We had this happen once and designated a "banker" (who happened to be watching the game but not playing) to keep track of everyone's "overflow" resources on a sheet of paper.

Also, are you playing with the "thief" character? The threat of having him hit your stash makes people a lot more eager to spend their resources (thus putting cards back in the bank). If this is a common problem for you guys I suggest adopting a more aggressive playing style (or obtaining some more resource cards).

Stressed-out mother from Detroit area abandoned boy in Nebraska with $10

Lack of Michigan mental health services faulted by advocate

BY MEGHA SATYANARAYANA FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER October 15, 2008

#16, I beleive it was their personal choice to breed, so maybe they need to live with their decisions. Why should the other cops have to carry more of the load?

We stopped trusting the Jews a long time ago.

Did you not get the memo?

#10 | Posted by Manypaths at 2008-10-15 12:13

And you sit there and call me a hick. I've met more bigots from the north than the south.

Tuesday nights lesson: Don't put an Obama sticker on a bag full of dog shit, light it and ring neighbors doorbell.

8937.84 -373.15 (-4.01%) Oct 15 12:30pm ET

Can we change that "Dow Rises" headline? It's deeper in the toilet than even I ever believed possible. The bushling will take all American wealth to Paraguay. herm

8937.84 -373.15 (-4.01%) Oct 15 12:30pm ET

Sucks!

"Of course: It was the assembly...it couldn't possibly be the design."

Speaking of "facts not in evidence," your post assumes that the designers are not also in a union. Anyways, the post was just a joke, clearly it activated your knee-jerk "defend unions" response.

"your post assumes that the designers are not also in a union."

They aren't.

"Anyways, the post was just a joke..."

Riiiiiiiiiight.

"...clearly it activated your knee-jerk "defend unions" response"

Right after it activated your "all unions are evil" call.

Have you heard the latest election news?

Obama got a letter with Mcsames pink slip in it!!!

Can we change that "Dow Rises" headline? It's deeper in the toilet than even I ever believed possible. The bushling will take all American wealth to Paraguay. herm

Hay, I've almost made it back up to where I started on Monday.

"We stopped trusting the Jews a long time ago"

Just so everyone is clear who MANYPATHS is :

"Fuck the Jews, the Jews are a criminal people, they mutilate their children, they are murderous, criminal, thieving, lying, bastards.

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-01-25 12:51 PM | Reply"

So its clear MP is a genuine a bigot and a hater - but THAT'S not the point.
MP isn't worth the turd in my ass

But the future of this country IS at stake and 650,000 Jewish votes could swing the State of Florida one way or another whether you like it or not.

Older Jews are concerned about Obama and concerned about the Democratic Party because Republicans can point to dirtbags like ManyPaths sitting on a Progressive web sites spewing hatred about Jews and can point out that NO ONE CALLS THE SCUMBAG OUT ON IT ergo they obviously agree or at best are indifferent

Think about folks ... there have always been and will always be dirtbags like MP who hate Jews. Its been that way throughout history. But if YOU ALL don't stand up to it, then it can and it will be exploited and used against your own interests.

I've been working in the Obama campaign and we need Florida and we need all votes but especially Jewish votes or what happened in 2000 and 2004 could happen again.

Connect the dots and shut these haters down .... or suffer the consequences

"They aren't."

How do you know who designed the machine?

I've been working in the Obama campaign and we need Florida and we need all votes but especially Jewish votes or what happened in 2000 and 2004 could happen again.
Posted by GZlives

Goyisher kopf

"8937.84 -373.15 (-4.01%) Oct 15 12:30pm ET"

Hey ZAT...you get that from your pool? That's a hell of a pool you got! What does the pool predict GM is gonna do in '09?
Oh...here's some more climate data. Toss it into the pool and give us a scientific, peer-reviewed prognostication, will ya'?

my apologies for previously stating there are no smart democrats...

Nice to see that you can admit when your wrong.

"US troops kill No. 2 leader of al-Qaida in Iraq "

Again? Damn those guys sure do have a lot of No. 2 leaders.

Michael Douglas's Gordon Gekko to return to Wall Street and confront credit crisis

Damn those guys sure do have a lot of No. 2 leaders.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian

Promoting from within?

Greed is good!

#41 | Posted by member2586

I think you meant to say greed is God.

"my apologies for previously stating there are no smart democrats..."

Throwing good money after bad?

Maybe they're really Republicans at heart.

"The vending machine at my work has a sticker on the inside wall that says "Union Made." I've decided that this is why I see M&M's stuck hanging there three times a week.

#4 | Posted by JOE at 2008-10-15 12:08 PM"

Joe, That statement means that the LABEL was union made. Not the machine.

Regards, BD

BTW, Member, can you put down the grudge match with rcade and just start posting stories under their own threads instead of on the nooner? god forbid you might have something interesting to talk about, it gets lost in the randomness of the daily nooner.

Joe, Did you have a nice weekend?
Thank a union member.
Knee jerk gratitude you should feel.

MP isn't worth the turd in my ass

Your actions SCREAM otherwise.

I own you Great Zionist.

so tonights the last debate

...going to be pissed if mccain doesnt come out smoking about ayers and wright and acorn...

~BLoTto

Ya really don't get it do ya?

It's the job of surrogates like Scary Failin to offer up the red meat to the rabid fundy masses on the right while John gets to pretend to be an evenhanded statesman.

Scary shakes her tits, winks and then rattles off a bunch of smear talking points that mouth breathers like yerself eat right up.

Leaving wimpy voiced "my friends" John to pretend that he doesn't know wot his right hand is dong.

It's all an act, a transparent and pathetic sham.

That sed, Yawn McLame is a desperate man.

He knows his ass is grass and that Obama is riding a big ole John Deere unit right towards him.

Maybe you'll get yer wish.

It would be fun fer you and yer ilk but it would also the final nail in McCadaver's coffin.

Making it fun fer Spud too.

The issues in case you hadn't noticed are the economy that BushCo killed, the stoopid war he started in Iraq and the overwhelming corruption they've enabled that has turned DC into an open sewer pipe.

Obviously McCain's campaign doesn't want to talk about that too much ergo the endless "Rezko and Ayers and Wright Oh MY!" rhetoric.

Talk about ACORN sending in false registrations and equating that to voter fraud allows GOPhers to continue to suppress minority votes in swing states without media scrutiny.

Is evil and machiavellian and this time it's not gonna be enuff.

Be Well.

Joe, Did you have a nice weekend?
Thank a union member.
Knee jerk gratitude you should feel.

#48 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2008-10-15 01:00 PM | Rep

No, I didn't. You see my taxes are ridiculously high because of all of the government union contracts. Also, my american made car shit the bed again. What can I expect, it has a whopping 22,000 miles on it. Also, some fat tools were out protesting one of the local businesses because the owner actually wants to make a decent living as opposed to paying some uneducated boobs $55 an hour for turning a wrench.

Also, some fat tools were out protesting one of the local businesses because the owner actually wants to make a decent living as opposed to paying some uneducated boobs $55 an hour for turning a wrench.

#51 | Posted by 101Chairborne

You think better wrench turning will be done for $8/hour?

Just asking. ;-)

BTW, Member, can you put down the grudge match with rcade and just start posting stories under their own threads instead of on the nooner? god forbid you might have something interesting to talk about, it gets lost in the randomness of the daily nooner.

#47 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Drudge grudge?!

Ok, I'll think about it.

I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't tempted some times to post on the back page.

MP-Just what real damages has any Jew done to you personally. It seems so overboard that there has got to be some very personal harm. Or is it the White supremacists type of "hate'm if they ain't like me and mine cause I ain't to sure about you and yours".

This stuff about mutilation because of circumcision? When the majority of doctors recommend it for health reasons. Like infections that are common to those with that extra bit at the tip?

Many.most admit that Israel has gone to far in the battle with the Palestinians. Just as the opposite is true. Neither side has any caring for the other. After 60 years of being rocketed or attacked or suicide bombed. Just what kind of tolerance would you have?

How about, "It's not even their land to begin with. Blame the people that created Israel. After 60 years of existence, can't we finally call it a done thing? Or are you for the total "cleansing" of the Jews altogether? Just give it back no matter what? You might have a small problem with a people that will not allow such an action. They would be nearly impossible to remove as it is considered theirs and they are way more than capable of defending it.

It just isn't possible to turn back the clock and say it didn't happen. You can bang your head against a very hard wall or deal with the country existing.

Move on.

You think better wrench turning will be done for $8/hour?

Just asking. ;-)

#52 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-10-15 01:26 PM | Reply

I think a machine can turn a wrench for less and doesn't need health insurance.
Unions need to realize this too.

Perhaps the owner could convince a portion of the 55% of the black males in Buffalo that are unemployed to take a look at the job (a job I just made up btw to fit my anti-union scenerio).

Have you heard the latest election news?

Obama got a letter with Mcsames pink slip in it!!!

#31 | Posted by keith204

Is McLame sending the next President Lingerie-tryin' ta get in his pants?

"US troops kill No. 2 leader of al-Qaida in Iraq "

Again? Damn those guys sure do have a lot of No. 2 leaders.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian

What the hell good does it do to keep killin' the guys that win their shitting contests?

Wait til Americans find out about her 83 IQ and 30 percentile on the SAT's. Not to mention the 5 or so colleges she dropped out of.

#19 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-15 12:25 PM | Reply |

Actually, she'll fit right in with her constituents. BTW, that can't possibly be her real score, it puts her in the "mildly retarded" category.

You think better wrench turning will be done for $8/hour?

Just asking. ;-)

#52 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-10-15 01:26 PM | Reply

I think a machine can turn a wrench for less and doesn't need health insurance.
Unions need to realize this too.

Perhaps the owner could convince a portion of the 55% of the black males in Buffalo that are unemployed to take a look at the job (a job I just made up btw to fit my anti-union scenerio).

#55 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Ask your Mechanic that question the next time you take your car in-but I'd be reluctant to drive it afterword.....

When the majority of doctors recommend it for health reasons. Like infections that are common to those with that extra bit at the tip?

#54 | Posted by keith204

Majority of doctors (fewer and fewer these days, btw) recommend it because you can bill for a circumcision but not so much for telling a parent to be sure they f'ing keep their baby's foreskin clean. I've heard plenty of mom's relate squeamishly about having to clean it and alot of it has to do with the fact that they've essentially sexualized their infant boys. They can't look at their child's penis without thinking "sex organ". They'd rather snip it and forget about it than have to do something diligently that otherwise is fairly simple.

I mean, my g-d, are we or are we not living in the 21st century?

Is McLame sending the next President Lingerie-tryin' ta get in his pants?

Posted by frankf3.5

I'll bet you've never hit your funny bone.

cleanliness is next to godliness!

I think a machine can turn a wrench for less and doesn't need health insurance.
Unions need to realize this too.

#55 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Companies have no obligation to employ humans if there is a machine that can do the same thing more efficently. I think the auto industry has mechanized the fabrication process as much as possible at this point.

That said, I agree that $55/hour is a whole hell of a lot of money for "turning a wrench" but I think a person has a right to earn a living too. And by "living" I mean a wage that one can support oneself on.

"I'll bet you've never hit your funny bone.

#60 | Posted by wisgod at 2008-10-15 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag HIGHLARIOUS!"

had he, it probably would have entailed falling on his arse!

h.c. - at that rate the work is usually guaranteed also.

Ask your Mechanic that question the next time you take your car in-but I'd be reluctant to drive it afterword.....

#58 | Posted by frankf55 at 2008-10-15 01:37 PM | Reply

Nobody asked you grease monkey.

The right eats its own-free speach is a commie plot:

Christopher Buckley knew he was venturing into treacherous territory when he endorsed Barack Obama: "It's a good thing my dear old mum and pup are no longer alive. They'd cut off my allowance," he wrote
The penalty turned out to be more severe. William F. Buckley Jr.'s son said yesterday that he had lost his back-page column in National Review, the conservative bible founded by his father.

"Within hours, poor NR was being swamped with furious mail, 'Cancel my subscription, this is betrayal, Judas, Benedict Arnold,' " Buckley, 56, said in an interview. "I thought the decent thing to do would be to offer to resign the column. Well, they accepted it."

Christopher Buckley's old man would have kicked him in the ass. Noticed the endorsement came after the old man checked out.

The right eats its own-free speach is a commie plot:
#66 | Posted by northguy3

NR is a conservative magazine and not a newspaper. If you're not going to endorse the conservative, then you're no longer of similar mind with the magazine or its readership.

He definitely should have resigned. probably before his endorsement too, if he actually had any respect for his father's memory.

commie plot my redacted.

"I'll bet you've never hit your funny bone.

#60 | Posted by wisgod at 2008-10-15 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag HIGHLARIOUS!"

had he, it probably would have entailed falling on his arse!

#63 | Posted by nanc

Ask your Mechanic that question the next time you take your car in-but I'd be reluctant to drive it afterword.....

#58 | Posted by frankf55 at 2008-10-15 01:37 PM | Reply

Nobody asked you grease monkey.

#65 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Whine oh whine-I was an Auto Mechanic for almost 30 years-have a Degree in Automotive Technology-as well as more State of Michigan and A.S.E Certifications than most people can name.
I haven't been a "grease monkey"-since I was 10 years old.

So much for the "Constitutional Right" of "Free Speech"....

Hypocrites!

"...Also, some fat tools were out protesting one of the local businesses because the owner actually wants to make a decent living as opposed to paying some uneducated boobs $55 an hour for turning a wrench....Posted by 101Chairborne"

Hey, I'll turn a wrench for 8.00 an hour if the corporations in this country lower the price of milk back to 80 cents a gallon!

And speaking of Fat Tools...U R 1!

And I'll bet you showed Henry Ford a thing or too, eh old-timer?

As a matter of fact-I had a great deal of respect for Mr Ford-until I learned about his Anti-Semitism-and support for Nazism.

"...Also, some fat tools were out protesting one of the local businesses because the owner actually wants to make a decent living as opposed to paying some uneducated boobs $55 an hour for turning a wrench....Posted by 101Chairborne"

Got news fer you-whine-oh-Whine-"uneducated boobs"-don't demand 55 bucks an hour.
But there ARE some who demand MILLIONS to run a company into the ground....

Have you heard the latest election news?

Obama got a letter with Mcsames pink slip in it!!!

#31 | Posted by keith204 at 2008-10-15 12:38 PM

On top of everything else, McSame is now a cross dresser?

Got news fer you-whine-oh-Whine-"uneducated boobs"-don't demand 55 bucks an hour.
But there ARE some who demand MILLIONS to run a company into the ground....

#74 | Posted by frankf55 at 2008-10-15 02:07 PM | Reply

Is that so stupid?
-Ford, Chevy, and GM Workers

Don't forget us!
-Delphi

Hilarious:

"That said, I agree that $55/hour is a whole hell of a lot of money for "turning a wrench" but I think a person has a right to earn a living too."

It isn't as if the shop owners don't just pass on the cost to the customer. $70+/hr labor charges are pretty much standard round these parts. I always assumed that mechanics must be getting a healthy chunk of it.

If I'm going to pay the same ridiculous rate either way, I'd rather my car be seen by the mechanic who has the reputation/smarts to get himself $55/hr than the guy who can't figure out how to get more than $12/hr for the same work.

Spud:

Condolences on your elections.

I would never call another Vet a pussy becuase we're in the same brotherhood, but he has been a little faggy recently.

I think a machine can turn a wrench for less and doesn't need health insurance.
Unions need to realize this too.

#55 | Posted by 101Chairborne

In the 1992 Model Year-Cadillac issued 493 "Silent Recalls" on the Sedan Deville-a car whose construction was so mechanized-and outsourced-there was literally no one capable of saying who built it.
In contrast-Chevy and Buick-who at the time-used a lot less automation and outsourcing-had an average of about 40-50 "silent Recalls".
And GM wonders why no one wants to buy their crap cars.

It isn't as if the shop owners don't just pass on the cost to the customer. $70+/hr labor charges are pretty much standard round these parts. I always assumed that mechanics must be getting a healthy chunk of it.

If I'm going to pay the same ridiculous rate either way, I'd rather my car be seen by the mechanic who has the reputation/smarts to get himself $55/hr than the guy who can't figure out how to get more than $12/hr for the same work.

#79 | Posted by Sully at 2008-10-15 02:14 PM | Reply

This took a wrong turn somewhere.
Nobody is going to pay some shit heap $55 an hour to work on their car (meaning no business owner would do it).
I'm talking about unionized folks that work on assembly lines and the like.

Why does every other black guy who drives have a 1977 beat to hell Cadillac?

In contrast-Chevy and Buick-who at the time-used a lot less automation and outsourcing-had an average of about 40-50 "silent Recalls".
And GM wonders why no one wants to buy their crap cars.

#82 | Posted by frankf55 at 2008-10-15 02:17 PM | Reply

How are chevy and buik doing dummy?

American made cars blow.

What the hell is happening in Ohio? I hear that a bunch of Democrat activists from out of state and one from England have already received absentee ballots after signing phony registrations.

American made motorcycles on the other hand.

Is that so stupid?
-Ford, Chevy, and GM Workers

Don't forget us!
-Delphi

#76 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-10-15 02:10 PM | Reply

How's Delphi doing Frank2.5?

Hilarious:

www.funnyordie.com

#78 | Posted by taxman

Absolutely smashing!!!

I think I just fell in love!

Funny Flag taxman!

What the hell is happening in Ohio? I hear that a bunch of Democrat activists from out of state and one from England have already received absentee ballots after signing phony registrations.

#86 | Posted by KBM at 2008-10-15 02:20 PM

Apparently they learned the lessons the R's taught during the 2000 and 2004 elections.

Paybacks a bitch huh.

Go bite at someone else's ankles-whine oh whine!

I said GM is doing crappy! Jesus-you're dense.
As far as Delphi-I have no idea-and don't give a damn.

Why does every other black guy who drives have a 1977 beat to hell Cadillac?

#84 | Posted by briwo

You need room for the Posse.

yeah, but can't they get an '88 or a '92 or something in halfway decent condition?

It looks ridiculous as hell to see some black guy in a total POS Cadillac cruising along, right arm draped over the back seat.

NOT rolling phat!

The reason GM is doing so crappy-they build crappy cars-thanks-not to the Unions-but to outsourcing and mechanization-as well as management changes to build plans-to build cars even cheaper.

Go bite at someone else's ankles-whine oh whine!

I said GM is doing crappy! Jesus-you're dense.
As far as Delphi-I have no idea-and don't give a damn.

#91 | Posted by frankf55 at 2008-10-15 02:24 PM | Reply

Translation 1: Dumbfucks earn $55 and hour.
Translation 2: Dumbfucks love to wallow in their ignorance.

"I'm talking about unionized folks that work on assembly lines and the like."

Oh. $55/hr to work an assembly line seems like much but I don't begrudge anyone for trying to get what they can. Just don't complain when you are told to fuck yourself and find other employment. I've only demanded more money once in my life and I was prepared to find another job if my request was turned down (it wasn't).

As far as what mechanics get paid, I have no idea. I know how much the shops charge for labor and its ridiculous.

#95 | Posted by Sully at 2008-10-15 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag

Exactly. If they can get it and the company can afford it, then good on them. The problem is when times go bad for the company and the clowns raking in $55/hr aren't willing to face reality.

I couldn't tell you what the mechanics get paid either, but you mention shops charging $70/hr...I've seen over $100 at a couple of the local chevy dealers. You've got to know they're paying bills, insurance, and salaray out of it so there's no way the mechanic is taking half of that in hourly wages.

" The problem is when times go bad for the company and the clowns raking in $55/hr aren't willing to face reality."

Riiiiiiiiiight. It's the workers' fault the management signed the contracts.

Maybe they can just go to court and have the contract invalidated, like they did with the GM promise of health care in retirement, traded for wage givebacks and agreed upon by both sides. That way the result will be the same: only the workers live up to their side of the bargain.

"John McCain is accusing YouTube LLC of acting too quickly to comply with copyright infringement notices"

He's upset because...YouTube is actually following the law? Well, he's already shown an active disdain for intellectual property rights and copyrights, using songs without getting clearance from the rights' owners. This should come as no surprise.

Riiiiiiiiiight. It's the workers' fault the management signed the contracts.

Maybe they can just go to court and have the contract invalidated, like they did with the GM promise of health care in retirement, traded for wage givebacks and agreed upon by both sides. That way the result will be the same: only the workers live up to their side of the bargain.

#98 | Posted by Danforth at 2008-10-15 02:55 PM | Reply

What part of "when things are going good" did you miss?
If the company can afford to pay $55/hr then fine. When they can no longer afford to pay, the worker can adjust, or get their sorry ass a new job. Reality sucks for union folks.

If contracts don't get renogotiated then the company goes belly up. I suppose the great minds in the union would rather be flat broke than make do with a living wage. Knock yourselves out Danny.

"If contracts don't get renogotiated then the company goes belly up."

Contracts are negotiated every three years (on average) and almost always have "re-opening" clauses in case situations change.

"If contracts don't get renogotiated then the company goes belly up."

Then renegotiate the contracts. Don't just sign and whine.

"I suppose the great minds in the union would rather be flat broke than make do with a living wage."

And I suppose other great minds only blame the Unions, despite the fact management makes 99% of the decisions, and is an equal signer of the contracts.

I just saw the most disgusting thing on the news. It was a story about how the special needs community is following Trig Palin around like it was a Dead Show.

Tards for Trig or something. And of course there was Sarah, with the photo ops, and meeting all the mothers.(And also demonstrating that she has no idea how to hold the kid).

So giving birth to a chromosonely defective child is a qualification to be one malignant melonoma away from President of the United States.

Christs Nipples people!!!!!

And I suppose other great minds only blame the Unions, despite the fact management makes 99% of the decisions, and is an equal signer of the contracts.

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2008-10-15 03:09 PM | Reply

The company takes the risks. Some pay off, some don't. The unionized worker thinks they can pull in their inflated wage regardless of economic realities.

Are you arguing just because somebody correctly swiped at the unions? Because I've yet to see where we differ. When the company does well and can pay the $55/hr then nobody has a problem with it. When the company does poorly and can't, it's time for the union to accept reality, not picket and shut down work only further hurting their livelihood (sp?).

If they think they can get more than what the company is offering at some other job then ta-fucking-ta. If they can't, then they need to realize that somebody else will work that job. Does this sound eerily familiar to your scenario about the parents that don't want their kid poked so he'll cry for the camera?

Tards for Trig or something.

#102 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-15 03:20 PM | Reply

Fucking A Briwo. You're just wrong...

But fucking funny at the same time.

Chair, I knew you would be one of the few to appreciate it.

I'm sure some Kumbaya motherfucker will flag me to Rogers.

"Tards for Trig

So giving birth to a chromosonely defective child is a qualification to be one malignant melonoma away from President of the United States."

#102 | Posted by briwo

Start your own group. Let your voice be heard. Don't let Trig think he has the tard vote locked up.

I'm sure some Kumbaya motherfucker will flag me to Rogers.

#105 | Posted by briwo

Trig is white. Not a problem.

Oh Briwo......

Well done, Kerrin.

"When the company does poorly and can't, it's time for the union to accept reality, not picket and shut down work only further hurting their livelihood"

Here's the problem: for that to happen, the companies must open up their books (NLRB ruling). Most don't want to do that. When they do, the choices become obvious---provided they're telling the truth in the first place.

"The company takes the risks."

Tell that to the GM workers who traded wage givebacks for healthcare in retirement.

"Some pay off, some don't."

But when things go very, VERY well, the Union members make no more than the contract stipulates. The owners only complain when things get worse.

I'm following the lead of Sarah herself:

Your links only proved I was right.

"Oh Briwo......"

#108 | Posted by kerrin57

Your way of saying, "I'm about to bitch slap you."

History will exonerate me!

Hey, I've been bitch slapped by better women than Kerrin.

"History will exonerate me!"

#113 | Posted by briwo

That's what Bush said.

If Danforth wants to blame corporations for accepting demands made by union representatives, that's fine - it must be the corporation's fault. When the company is run into the ground, it won't matter who's to blame. Maybe all the unemployed auto workers will ask for less next time around since they know the corporation is stupid enough to give them what they want.

Hey, I've been bitch slapped by better women than Kerrin.

#114 | Posted by briwo

BUT...have you enjoyed it?

Live or Die: I know, I'm following the righties lead on how to act when you jump the gun.

That post only vindicated me!!!

Kerrin: Sometimes, depended on the woman.....

Has anyone heard, that in addition to Philly hijinx, Dems in FL are being told to vote by phone?

Murtha - what an idiot:

Yeah, those highly decorated combat Marines can be real assholes.

"If Danforth wants to blame corporations for accepting demands made by union representatives, that's fine - it must be the corporation's fault."

If Joe wants to blame workers for accepting terms and conditions offered by management---the same management who then goes on to make ALL of the other decisions---that's fine.

If economic conditions are unfair, I've laid out the method to renegotiate. The owners have every right, via re-opening clauses. Instead, it's sign and whine.

Yeah, those highly decorated combat Marines can be real assholes.

#123 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-15 03:50 PM | Reply

Decorated in combat or not, I've never met one that wasn't an asshole...

That's why they're Marines.

That's why they're Marines.

#126 | Posted by briwo at 2008-10-15 03:57 PM | Reply

I thought it was because they were too stupid to join the Army!

Well, that too.

Just don't make that point in a bar full of Marines. Unless you really hate your teeth and need some serious dental work.

Danforth,

Serious question: Are unions incapable of fault?

"Are unions incapable of fault?"

No, I'm just forced to defend them here 100% of the time because everything everyone here has ever said about unions is untrue.
-Danforth

I think you are both assholes (Chair and Briwo) and I can kick both of your asses at the same time, as long as I can do so via the anonomous nature of the net.

For the sake of argument, let's assume I meet you 2 dicks in person and you somehow succeed in kicking my ass. Understand that as recompense that I would pay Danni to rub her shorn beard up against your faces and create a discomfort 10 times worse than razor-burn!

PS - Go Wings!

Understand that as recompense that I would pay Danni to rub her shorn...

...up against your faces and create a discomfort 10 times worse than razor-burn!

#132 | Posted by JeffJ

That could have been so much worse.

"Serious question: Are unions incapable of fault?"

Of course. If the workers shoot themselves in the foot, the market will tell them. There are also ones who've used violence or coercion (I realize both sides have, but that doesn't exonerate the Unions), or those who have used it as a shield for bad behavior.

DOW is down over 700 2nd worst loss in a day and I have heard little or nothing.

One might imagine yet another 2000 point drop if we don't hurry and give Wall Street more money.

let's assume I meet you 2 dicks in person and you somehow succeed in kicking my ass. Understand that as recompense that I would pay Danni to rub her shorn beard up against your faces and create a discomfort 10 times worse than razor-burn!

PS - Go Wings!

#132 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-15 04:12 PM

You mean like looking at you and going BOO!?

Maybe we should invade NY!

DOW is down over 700 2nd worst loss in a day and I have heard little or nothing.

#135 | Posted by truthhurts

Drink! There....

Looks like me buying heavy the last few weeks was a bad idea.

think I'll taper it down and take the 'wait and see' position on any future investing

Should we set the words for tonights debate drinking game?

I was gonna suggest, My Friends, but we'd all pass out in the first 1/2 hr.

Here's a few suggestions:

60's
radical
domestic terrorist
tax cut is welfare
I've been there
maverick

"Of course."

I meant of course NOT...of course.

Here's a few suggestions:

~BriWo.

Actually, CChris has already got a thread going on just this very topic...

Drink on Obama's phrases, and get obliviated:

misspoke
not the guy I knew
change
spiritual advisor
christian
J-O-B
4 more years of Bush,etc.
clingy redneck small-town Americans
Popeye's/Col. Sanders chicken for breakfast

Murtha: Western Pa. 'racist' but Obama should win By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Democratic Rep. John Murtha said Wednesday his home base of western Pennsylvania is racist and that could reduce Barack Obama's victory margin in the state by 4 percentage points.

The 17-term Democratic congressman told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a story posted Wednesday on its Web site: "There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area."

Murtha said it has taken time for many Pennsylvania voters to come around to embracing a black presidential candidate, but that Obama should still win the state, though not in a runaway.

Wow, some people just dont know when to shut up

I grew up there, he's got a point.

Wow, some people just dont know when to shut up

#145 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2008-10-15 05:18 PM | Reply |

The truth usually tends to ruffle a few feathers.

"Should we set the words for tonights debate drinking game?"

I wanna play! I wanna play!!

I grew up there, he's got a point.

#146 | Posted by briwo

So did I - no he doesn't. Ever been to an Aliquippa football game?

Nope, ever been in the bars around Pittsburgh?
Ever been to a sportsmans club in SW PA?

I grew up 20 minutes north of W VA. Maybe it's changed since the 70's, but I doubt it.

I grew up 20 minutes north of W VA. Maybe it's changed since the 70's, but I doubt it.

#150 | Posted by briwo

I grew up by the airport in the 70's. Lived there from 68 to 88. Never heard n*gger until I went to school in the south - not once. True story. Now, prejudice against jews - that I saw.

I'm glad ACORN's dirty work for Obama will be checked in OHIO.

The family that steals together lives better.

Biden is an old corrupt Washington hand.

Democratic vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. has paid more than $2 million in campaign cash to his family members, their businesses and employers over the years, a practice that watchdogs criticize as rife with potential conflict.

Anyone know why Rob isn't around? I haven't seen him for a couple of weeks.

Wooohooo!! Red October Continues!! Phillies clinch NLCS and are going to the World Series!

:Mechanics dumb fucks". Try looking into what the wrench man of today has to work with/on. That would be a multi-computer governed piece of very complicated machinery. Not work for a fool. On the other hand not worth the $55 and higher that most charge.

If its so damned easy, why don't we all do our own?