Though I'd bet many pols can't name many other cases you would think she'd at least remember Brown vs. Board of Education. She seems very isolated.

Miranda?

Marbury vs Mason?

Dred Scott?

Bush vs Gore?

Marbury vs Mason?

Not enough "????????" in that one.

Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137 (1803)

Bush v. Gore.

How could anyone ever forget that mess? These past 8 years have worked out so wonderful with a coked out dry drunk in charge now haven't they?

oz,you are kidding right? that is one of the top 5 most important decision the SCOTUS has ever made.

any semi-literate politico knows it by heart.

It is the basis of the SC. It allows the SC to review Congressional laws!

oz,you are kidding right?

The "???????" were because you wrote Mason instead of Madison. So yeah, I was just yanking your chain.

ahhhh

just having a Palin moment.

Brown vs Kansas BOE, 1954

How about Sanhedrin & Rome v. Jesus H. Christ?
That one didn't turn out too well, did it?
See, I think that was more judges legislating from the bench.
They spend too much time at the bar anyway, dontcha think?
Yup.
~Sarah "Blackstone" Palin

"The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe,"

Yeah, how dare they do their jobs and reveal Palin's utter incompetence to the world. Damned liberal media...

It's actually infuriating to me that they DIDN'T include it. She's completely clueless and the more this is demonstrated, the better.

UC Board of Regents v Bakke
Loving v Virginia
Hamdan v Rumsfeld
Dred Scott v Sandford
US v Nixon
FCC v Pacifica

Damn, does this mean I'm qualified to be VP too?

hagbard
most retorters are more qualifed for the vp

even some of those that have no clue

hagbard
most retorters are more qualifed for the vp

even some of those that have no clue

#13 | Posted by klifferd

Awesome.

Hagbard Celine 2012!

Ewige Blumenkraft und Ewige Schlangenkraft!

Awesome.

Hagbard Celine 2012!

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

So...you're a reporter?

Sorry...the word was retorter...duh.

I either need more caffeine or less caffeine, I don't know which.

So...you're a reporter (retorter)?

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft

I don't get your meaning.

Ewige Blumenkraft und Ewige Schlangenkraft!

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

The leaders of China, the US and Russia were all impotent with their wives but......

The leaders of China, the US and Russia were all impotent with their wives but......

#18 | Posted by Lipzoidial

Where in the hell is Fernando Poo?

.... and, although he had been impotent with his wife for nearly ten years now, he generally achieved orgasm in the mouth of a skilled prostitute within 1.5 minutes. He took amphetamine pep pills to keep going on his grueling twenty-hour day, with the result that his vision of the world was somewhat skewed in a paranoid direction, and he took tranquilizers to keep from worrying too much, with the result that his detachment sometimes bordered on the schizophrenic; but most of the time his innate shrewdness gave him a fingernail grip on reality. In short, he was much like the rulers of Russia and China.

Fer frank's sake... She was the Governor of Alaska and the wife of an Alaska fisherman when Exxon v Baker (Valdez oil spill compensation) was decided this year.

Heller v DC?

Kelo v New London?

Haley v. United States; Haley 7, United States nothing.

"The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe" ...

How dumb are McCain staffers? TV interviewers leak excerpts ahead of time to draw ratings. Palin's ignorance is ratings gold.

Palin: "Ali vs Frazier?"

Let me guess - us - Roe v Wade? Ah, but does she know what it was about or does she think it refers to salmon fishing rights?

QCP

That's Headley!

Since she is Gov. of Alaska you'd think she would at least know about current court cases involving her own state....Baker vs. Exxon.
I would have to say that her ignorance about that case indicates that she is not competent to be Governor much less VP.

I like how everyone is using this thread to showcase their vast knowledge of the US Supreme Court. As if being able to name a few cases says anything at all about you. Granted, I don't think Palin has any qualifications when it comes to the legal field, but naming cases doesn't frequently cross my mind as something that'd ever come up in a job interview.

"Let me guess - us - Roe v Wade?"

DawnGlo

FF

"How dumb are McCain staffers? TV interviewers leak excerpts ahead of time to draw ratings. Palin's ignorance is ratings gold."

#23 | Posted by rcade

That why when I first heard about the vp choice...I got the feeling McCain was throwing the election...now with Obama shilling for the bailout for the elite...what more does one need to know?

"but naming cases doesn't frequently cross my mind as something that'd ever come up in a job interview."

This is not a run-of-the-mill job! This woman actually thinks she is qualified to be president of the United States!

I like how everyone is using this thread to showcase their vast knowledge of the US Supreme Court. As if being able to name a few cases says anything at all about you. Granted, I don't think Palin has any qualifications when it comes to the legal field, but naming cases doesn't frequently cross my mind as something that'd ever come up in a job interview.

#28 | Posted by JOE

any poli sci major can list a few...

Brown vs Brown stands out:>)

For the one seeking the veep, some room for improvement can be expected.

As for Obama who is seeking the Presidency, on the job training is not a good resume. Please come back 8 years later and I might vote for you --- because I like you but I think you are not there yet.

Palin: Roe v Wade

Q. Name two ways to cross a river.

Granted, I don't think Palin has any qualifications when it comes to the legal field, but naming cases doesn't frequently cross my mind as something that'd ever come up in a job interview.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2008-09-30 04:03 PM |

With all due respect Joe, if you ever run for vp, brush up on this shit. Unless it's vp of the local PTA.

btw, you could have ended your sentence at "i don't think palin has any qualifications". Period. She's a fundy loon and an embarrassment to your party, to your country.

BTW Baker vs. Exxon is not some obscure case, it's the case about the Exxon Valdeez and there are billions of dollars at stake. The chief executive of the state should be very aware of it.

more shillers?:>)

The Shadow of the Pitchfork: Elite Panic Attack as Bailout Goes Bust

BTW Baker vs. Exxon is not some obscure case, it's the case about the Exxon Valdeez and there are billions of dollars at stake. The chief executive of the state should be very aware of it.

#35 | Posted by danni

ff (& guess who Dr. Phil represented back then:>)

Oh, I forgot to mention, that case will be heard by the SC this year, the accident happened long ago but Exxon is still appealing and appealing to try and reduce the damages. The poor company might have to spend as much as one month's profit to pay the damage awards.

I just read a story that Palin is at a GOP "boot camp" until Wednesday, cramming for the debate. She will not absorb much of it, rest assured. This is going to the best thing since the Sopranos finale. I'm buying alcohol and chips, for certain. Who says there's nothing good on TV any more?

Obama taught CONSTITUTIONAL law for many years. I bet not only could he list a bunch of cases but could probably discuss the case law. He could probably list the Supremes greatest hits. (mine was "you keep me hangin on) But he still can't see Canada from Illinios.

The Obama team missed an opportunity: too late now --- Palin should have been praised as a rock star with rotating pictures of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

Hehehehe......

(All these interviews and gaffes have given her clues for improvement and she may come out OK in the debates --- there is still 30 days to go).

Who says there's nothing good on TV any more?

#39 | Posted by evashogouki

ff

"(All these interviews and gaffes have given her clues for improvement and she may come out OK in the debates --- there is still 30 days to go)."

Huh??? Her debate is in 2 days.

"may come out OK in the debates --- there is still 30 days to go"

YEAH!

That is if you can convince yourself that day after tomorrow is "30 days"

Srar Trek logic?

John Titor zipping in again?

By 30 days, I'm thinking of November 4.

She still has room to capture more fans and voters.

Playboy has a standing nude offer...

Jimmy & Jesse won by being interviewed by Hu-gh's magazine, so who knows:>)

Maybe Tina Fay can stand in for her. She does a better Palin than Palin plus she appears to be smarter.

"All these interviews "

all these ??

all three you mean.

Save us Lord

Dred scott
Roe v wade
Brown v board of education
marbury v madison
bush v gore
rumsfeld v hamden(sp?)
kelo v new london
miranda v arizona(?)

Jesus, this is off the top of my head. Am I qualified for a vp slot now?

Reading the thread:

Hagbard beat me. Congrats to you VP man.

"After the debate and talk radio hits, the plan is to find a way to let Palin be Palin, moving her away from the pre-fab talking points and letting the down-home daughter of Wasilla be herself."

OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE!!!!! I can't wait for this! Watching Palin do some serious 'Failin' is making me all warm inside.

you get my vote, Alex ~ deist or atheist or whatever your latest spiritual beliefs are...at least you investigate issues vs 30 sec latest pr soundbites of these repubican yoyo's (until the house recently apparently:>)

Huh??? Her debate is in 2 days.

Plenty of time for the airbag to give Palin more ammo. Didn't he say something about being shot at in Iraq and forced down in Afghanistan? Or his historical moment saying Roosevelt was President in 1929. Not to mention claiming he addressed the nation on TV...

Palin has nothing for Biden to exploit. All he can do is Bush and the Repubs this. You and Bush that. She has 30 years of Biden gaffs, votes, flip flops. I will take a new Governor over a career Senator any day in a debate.

"Where in the hell is Fernando Poo?"

you get vp Alex ~ hag gets poo

She's a hunter and an NRA member.

She should have known Heller v D.C.

"""Palin has nothing for Biden to exploit. """

Man walking with dinosaurs. Game over.

If the corpse still moans: If I can see the moon from my house, does that qualify me to be in charge of NASA?

Fucking masochists are actually lining up behind a simpleton and ready to defend the stupid skank.

Is your rebulican served shit buffet not a wake up call?

"She has 30 years of Biden gaffs, votes, flip flops. I will take a new Governor over a career Senator any day in a debate."

CC FF

Anyone that's hiding/scubbing clean in Wikipedia & eleswher her Buchanan affiliations can't be all bad:>)

Sen. Joe Biden on Shalom TV

Man walking with dinosaurs. Game over.

If the corpse still moans: If I can see the moon from my house, does that qualify me to be in charge of NASA?

Don't forget book banning, cutting funding for special ed, daughters baby, traveled while giving birth, and half the other stories floating around.

Thank you righites for picking this retard. She is sinking your party and it's hysterical to you watch you all slowly realize this.

You would have been better off picking dick-less cheney again.....

LM

Of course Failin can only name one SCOTUS case.

She's a one issue candidate put on the ticket to give McModerate some cred in the eyes of the folks who think God wants them to murder ob-gyn docs.

Be Well.

Thank you righties for picking this retard

~LM.

Spud seconds THAT!

She's truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Thursday's debate should be a hoot!

Go Biden!

Be Well.

Be Well.

#63 | Posted by dethspud at 2008-09-30 05:08 PM

When you line up a putt or are getting a distance to the green, do you go back and forth with your second or third person? Do you blame any of them when you shank?

She's truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Thursday's debate should be a hoot!

Go Biden!

Be Well.

Stand up Sarah. Let everyone see you.

She's a hunter and an NRA member.

She should have known Heller v D.C.

~Roy Batty

The "DC Gun Ban is unConstitutional" one?

stoopid html tags!

Be Well.

Joe Biden should take her very seriously, and bring his top game.

She has the benefit of LOW EXPECTATIONS.

If she say's anything remotely intelligent, the right will plaster the airwaves with it, and declare her the winner.

"If she say's anything remotely intelligent, the right will plaster the airwaves with it, and declare her the winner."

Sarah Palin could come across as ignorant as, well, Sarah Palin, and they would declare her the winner. They'll be spinning like Whirling Dervishes no matter what happens.

When you line up a putt or are getting a distance to the green, do you go back and forth with your second or third person? Do you blame any of them when you shank?

#65 | Posted by crispee_oc

his dick?

They'll be spinning like Whirling Dervishes no matter what happens.

nullifidian

my veri favorite dervish book:>)

"Tales of the Dervishes" by Idries Shah

Ah, what a pleasure to have a true government outsider running for VP. Like we need another desk jockey lawyer who can spout legal precedent, past policy, present policy, future policy and the cell phone number of every lobbyist in DC.

With all of Biden's so-called experience and background, how can you explain how he is so often wrong? It's a thing called judgment, of which he is sorely lacking. There are more than enough lawyers and policy wonks in the White House staff to take care of such matters, and to then leave the leaders to lead.

But add 'em up: Obama and Biden have made more unforced errors than Palen, and with Palen the in-the-tank press has been playing "gotcha" with her from the beginning.

Talk about idiots here, even the lefty looneys are bashing her character over what, a nothing thing that bars no issue.

retards, all of you.

lol

is that the best you can sprout ~ MW?

" in-the-tank press has been playing "gotcha" with her from the beginning."

Yeah...it's not her answers, it's the meanies' questions!!!

Sorry bani but this is just crap all the way around.

I could careless how many supreme court cases any politician can name, it means nothing...ever.

The fact that this is being held up as some character creditable issue shows the disrespect some of the lefty looneys have for people.

Get a clue.

Yeah...it's not her answers, it's the meanies' questions!!!

No it is the things they are focusing on, stupid shit.

Get a clue.

#77 | Posted by moneywar

why don't you?

why don't you?

OK, please tell us why it is so very very important that Palin should name supreme court cases. I am all in for getting a clue.

It is so important because those supreme court cases always and I stress more than 90% of the time always get over turned ............. right.

Dumb, just stupid bashing for no good reason for political gain of idiocy.

In fact if this idiocy keeps up and this focus keeps things away from the issue I think palin and mccain would be a good vote because I would not expect the democratic party to be smart enough to actually contend and address the issue that are of importance.

People are funny, we all know palin is green, but the stupid slamming that keeps going and going makes me believe she might be just what is needed in the white house.

Palin is looking better and better in my eyes, if the democratic party has to focus so much energy at such idiocy then maybe just maybe she is better than what appears.

Bashing her about naming supreme court cases? What a fucking joke.

Maybe if Obama got off his high horse ass and started naming all those supreme court cases that were ruled upon protecting the American peoples money from the lending institutions we wouldn't be in this mess.

Obama is the lazy ass bastard here, why...because apparently to you dweebs HE KNOWS THEM.

Bani,

You done got my ire up.

Name one time when OBAMA names supreme court cases because he was asked. Name one and why the question was even asked in the first place.

Oh, maybe because Obama and this liberal media is handling obama with kid gloves, don't want him to stumble to much now do we.

Bashing her about naming supreme court cases? What a fucking joke.

#81 | Posted by moneywar

I'm not bashing her ~ just observing...

Do I think she's qualified.

No.

I sincerely believe the election has already been decided by the big boys...but like ivory soap, it's not ever 100% certain until Nov sometime perhaps.

Perhaps, too, that's why McCain wouldn't look much at Obama during the debate...he's angry that he has look good while losing fairly ~ so tried a hail Mary by getting Palin in vp spot, since he was told Lieberman couldn't run as vp.

ps speaking of jokes:>)

Bani,

Just by making the observation in the way this thread has toned it makes it a character bash to say the least.

You and I are very close in our political thinking but when I see excessive piling on I am going to call it out.

Did you know Obama picks his nose and eats it just before going on camera for good luck

not really but lets focus on those really important things.

Ah, the vagaries of SAD (Sarah's Awful Defenders).

First they sputter that Sarah does too know shit. When that turns out a lie, they suggest it's not important to know shit. Then this position doesn't fly either, and they'd try to suggest that this Harvard magna cum laude law review editor and instructor is just as bad. Hang it up, guys. The lipsticked pig gets few leers. herm

"Did you know Obama picks his nose and eats it just before going on camera for good luck"

I stop eating it when I got converted to Christianity for 2 weeks when I was 10 at YMCA camp up in northern Minnesota

Then my brother said that Dad didn't believe in Jesus.

So believing in Jesus for awhile at least helped me stop eating 'em burgers & move on to Whoppers:>)

LOL!

I guess herm missed the point totally.

One good thing about Chicago's Oprah is she helped people with burger problems find out about "Neti"s...no, it's not ET's sister:>)

**** " in-the-tank press has been playing "gotcha" with her from the beginning."

Yeah...it's not her answers, it's the meanies' questions!!! ****

Yes, the issue is the questions. Rather than the softballs and cues for soundbites that the other side gets almost universally, Palin is treated to a nonstop game of Trivial Pursuit - Government Edition. You could say that both types of questioning are equally useless. The Lib-on-Lib questioning just evades anything probing and gives them a platform for the same old party line. Nothing new here, move on. And the Gotcha Squad, afraid that Palin may say something to make her an even more attractive candidate, fixate on asking more and more trivial questions, trying to embarrass her.

The underlying goal of the MSM is to keep the people from knowing their candidate, which will make them lose, and from knowing the opposing candidate, which will make them win.

"Palin is treated to a nonstop game of Trivial Pursuit - Government Edition. "

Well, it would help her cause if she would earn a pie now and then.

Or is her proximity to Russia the best we can hope for?

" the softballs and cues for soundbites that the other side gets almost universally"

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Hannity: Governor Palin, why is Obama's plan so dangerous?

Reading the thread:

Hagbard beat me. Congrats to you VP man.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite

*Bows

Bani- deist or atheist or whatever your latest spiritual beliefs are...

When was I ever an atheist on this board?

Poor Palin. Is she REALLY that ignorant of SCOTUS history, or does she just get completely nervous on TV?

Either way, she's looking bad.

"When was I ever an atheist on this board?"

my appologies...I just wasn't absolutely sure lately ~ not that it matters anyway for the 'force' works in mysterious ways:>)

Ask Obama a hard question....see what you get...57 states. May she was tired. That's with left wing media said for Obama.

You know...liberals live in a world of contradiction. Why? Because they are intolerant of any opinion that does not match there own. Even in "Hollywood", conservatives are not employed. So goes CA....so goes the rest of the country.

There is a name for this ideology and is it supported by webs sites like Retort.

"May she was tired."

May.

Maybe she's just dumb:

You know...liberals live in a world of contradiction. Why? Because they are intolerant of any opinion that does not match there own. Even in "Hollywood", conservatives are not employed. So goes CA....so goes the rest of the country.

There is a name for this ideology and is it supported by webs sites like Retort.

Ever wonder why palin doesn't sound so good, she gets her information from dudes like this poster.

Sarah -- Here's a lifeline; a few basics every poli-sci major knows:

1 Marbury v. Madison
2 Dred Scott
3 Brown v. Board of Education
4 Miranda v. Arizona
5 Gideon v. Wainwright
6 Roe v. Wade
7 University of California v. Bakke

Alexander -- Good call. I forgot

bush v gore
rumsfeld v hamden(sp?)

Katie Couric asked Palin tonight where she read her news. Asked her to specifically name one publication.

She couldn't

Tomorrow night there's supposed to be dead silence after a pertinent question.

how about Rothschilds vs USA/Russia (civil war:>)

Alexander -- Good call. I forgot

LOL! The hypocrisy of being put on the spot without looking on the net.

Katie Couric asked Palin tonight where she read her news. Asked her to specifically name one publication.

She couldn't

Tomorrow night there's supposed to be dead silence after a pertinent question.

#102 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-09-30 10:28 PM | Reply | Flag

And this supposed gotcha is important in what way???????????

Any answer she would give would be trashed upon, but it is clearly important to these way out there democrats.

If palin was quick with the wit she should have said...CBS.

Did you hear?

Sarah is being investigated for tearing off the tags from her pillows and sofa cushions.

Americanunity-
"Couldn't" or wouldn't?

Ah, ya know, Katie, I read the Alaska paper to see see what those gotcha reporter types are sayin' about me, an I read People an the Washington Times 'cause I got a free subscription, an I watch the local news, to see what those gotcha reporter types are sayin' about me, an I pour over International Affairs for evidence of Putin 'raisin his head' over Alaska- which is where those Russians go, ya know, when they do that head-raisin' thing the Russians do...

Sarah -- Here's a lifeline; a few basics every poli-sci major knows:

1 Marbury v. Madison
2 Dred Scott
3 Brown v. Board of Education
4 Miranda v. Arizona
5 Gideon v. Wainwright
6 Roe v. Wade
7 University of California v. Bakke

~T&C

Aw, Spud wants to help too.

Hey Sarah...

Don't fergit

8. Dread Pirate Roberts v. Prince Humperdink
9. The Six Fingered Man v. Inigo Montoya.

No need to thank Spud, Scaryspice.

Be Well.

/Yeah, of course Spud knows those last two aint proper SCOTUS case but Sarah don't.
//Tee Hee! ^_^

Money- she could have said "time" "newsweek" the Ap wire on the net.

anything.

Instead, she fumbled around trying to think out what she should say she reads instead of just answering. And it gave the false(god I hope) impression that she doesn't read.

it wasn ANOTHER softball question that beaned her in the head. Sad.

Did you hear?

Sarah is being investigated for tearing off the tags from her pillows and sofa cushions.

#106 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-30 10:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

What magazine did you read that in, murphy? : )

Money- she could have said "time" "newsweek" the Ap wire on the net.

Yes, and being the good democrat clown in pouncing mode would have shown how those sights are bad and against the helping of the country.

It was a loaded questions with no correct anwer and the fact that her silence to this is being a character bash on her explains the real issue. Nothing she could say would get her left alone.

First Supreme Court case I would have named was the worse one to ever be decided by that court --

Kelo v. City of London

That was the case which gave the right of eminent domain to any government entity to take your home and give it away to any private developer or private business simply because they would be paying more property tax than you would.

Worst case ever!

It was a loaded questions

No, it wasn't. Jesus. She could have picked a number of bland or popular magazines/newspapers.

Alexandrite-
re: What magazine did you read that in, murphy? : )

oh, ya know, all the ones that were in front of me whenever I was waitin' for a root canal or goin' in for a checkup. I skip the "Highlights" magazine 'cause that's for the kids, but ya' know "Sailing Today", "Cigar Aficinado", "Golf".

Palin is looking better and better in my eyes, if the democratic party has to focus so much energy at such idiocy then maybe just maybe she is better than what appears.
Bashing her about naming supreme court cases? What a fucking joke.

She's running for VP - of the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch isn't about "executive" experience of the kind of a Governor, it's about executing the laws of the United States. A basic knowledge of Supreme Court rulings that have shaped the very fabric of this land is important. Certainly given the current state of our Nation.

I don't know how much more of a softball question you could ask. I can't imagine her being asked to voice an opinion on Hamdan v Rumsfeld. This, to me, is a bit of insight into what Palin holds as important. What has she spent her time studying and understanding? Since we have so little to go on, there's little to do but fish in areas relevant to the office for which she's competing.

The one she comes up with - Roe V Wade?

"Even in "Hollywood", conservatives are not employed."

CSI NY Gary Sinise conservative
Brothers & Sisters Kitty Walker Conservartive
Frasier Kelsey Grammar Conservartive
Magnum PI Tom Selleck Conservative
many more

No, it wasn't. Jesus. She could have picked a number of bland or popular magazines/newspapers.

Yes, and you are not getting it, but you would be the first to be ripping her up for choosing thos bland or popular mags/papers.

Loaded question which has nothing of value but to do some more character bashing.

Just look at YAV's post and the question was loaded again. If she didn't focus on what the democrats thought was important then the bashing begins again.

Mean while, none of this has to do with us moving in the proper direction of fixing this nation.

but you would be the first to be ripping her up for choosing thos bland or popular mags/papers.

No, I wouldn't...there's plenty of other things to pick on her for. For christ sake, she got a degree in journalism and she can't name ONE magazine she reads? Is she really THAT MUCH of a deer in headlines while being interviews by KATIE COURIC? Yes, moneywar...let's give her the nuke codes!

Mean while, none of this has to do with us moving in the proper direction of fixing this nation.

Not electing McCain would help. And palin is an excellent example of his poor judgment.

Palin is looking better and better in my eyes, if the democratic party has to focus so much energy at such idiocy then maybe just maybe she is better than what appears.

If Palin is looking "better and better" then why in the last few days have some very conservative Republican columnists and spokesman expressed they are very worried about her staying on the ticket?

One even suggested it would be best if Sarah would do the party a favor and play the old political "bow out with grace" card by saying she needs "to spend more time with my family." That excuse will definitely be believable in her case.

MW doesn't like dems...

a full house of 'em are a scary thought...

look what a full house of Reputhugs did

No, I wouldn't...there's plenty of other things to pick on her for. For christ sake, she got a degree in journalism and she can't name ONE magazine she reads?

She could pick out plenty but none of her answers would stop the slashing so why say any at all.

Oh, so you guys didn't like the idea of the useless bait bashing so we'll just bash her reluctance to name one in the mask that she doesn't read any.

Nice but I am above that.

but none of her answers would stop the slashing so why say any at all.

None of anyone answers on anything stop people from picking on them.

So should all politicians just stop answering any and all questions?

Just look at YAV's post and the question was loaded again. If she didn't focus on what the democrats thought was important then the bashing begins again.

You know Couric's a Democrat? Democrats came up with the interview questions?

Look, she failed on a simple question. She's failed on why seeing Russia from her porch gives her "foreign policy experience." She's failed on many things in her interviews.

The good news for McCain is expectations aren't high for her in the debate. She'll easily exceed those expectations IMHO.

That won't mean she's even benignly qualified to be POTUS should McCain's term end early. I'm watching all this seeing if she has the capacity to soak up knowledge she'll need should that occur.

I have little doubt that her role as VP would be nothing like Cheney's.

If Palin is looking "better and better" then why in the last few days have some very conservative Republican columnists and spokesman expressed they are very worried about her staying on the ticket?

I don't give a shit what republicans think, but I am seeing that little palin is learning the set up game and bait and switch to slash her character by these lefty looneys and has decided to not give anything.

So now all you can rhetorically and pejorically bash is she is .............. what........slow to respond.

The bait switch will probably earn Katie to never ever have palin again, palin will tell katie to pack sand.

In some ways I almost feel sorry for Sarah Palin.

She is in waaaaay over her head, I believe she was singled out to be "used" by the McCain campaign and is afraid to back out even if deep down inside her heart that is what she'd really like to do but is afraid to say it.

Sarah Palin has made her place in history. If she bowed out now she still would have many chances for a strong political position in other areas. It's just that VP is way too important to mess around with taking a chance on someone definitely not qualified for the job. And America shudders to think what would happen if McCain kicks the bucket should he be elected and she's then President.

Let Sarah bow out gracefully "due to family pressures and needs at home" and come back next year and get a cushy ambassador's job somewhere. McCain at least owes her that much after probably telling her she neededn't worry and that handling the VP job would be a piece of cake. McCain lied to her and has now set her up as a national joke.

What I'm afraid of is if she does bow out McCain will put some hardcore Neocon in her place -- like our Israeli Senator Joe "Bomb Iran" Lieberman or even Jeb Bush who is currently unemployed at the moment. I think I'd rather have Sarah then those two thugs.

The bait switch will probably earn Katie to never ever have palin again, palin will tell katie to pack sand.

OH that MEAN Couric! I'll never interview with her again!

Yeah, that inspires me when I think about Palin talking to Putin.

What is really humorous here is I am not a palin fan what so ever. palin is a scammin lying cheat of selfish desires to the max but am stuck defending her because I see the slant double sword play being done to her by these democratic bards.

She is in waaaaay over her head, I believe she was singled out to be "used" by the McCain campaign and is afraid to back out even if deep down inside her heart that is what she'd really like to do but is afraid to say it.

I think what McCain's done by choosing Palin was grossly unfair to Paliin. I too have sympathy for her. I disagree with what I believe are many of her views, but it isn't that enjoyable watching the vetting/learning process being done at a National level.

Still, there are two things I judge: McCain's judgment with his choice, and Palin's decision to accept McCain's offer.

I have little doubt that her role as VP would be nothing like Cheney's.

Ah come on! You don't think Uncle Dick's going to give Sarah his secret bunker in the country side, and stuff? ....

Actually you're right...Uncle Dick will probably keep the bunker.

I see the slant double sword play being done to her by these democratic bards.

You are right in this, the question would be viewed as condescending if it was asked of McCain, Obama or Biden. There is a general belief that all 3 of them would be able to answer it.

Yeah, that inspires me when I think about Palin talking to Putin.

#127 | Posted by YAV at 2008-09-30 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag

Ok YAV,

You would be yep, putin would ask her what newspaper do you read for information. I honestly thought you were smarter than this.

Putin would ask her to name a supreme court case.

Yep, these are all question of foreign dignitaries.

I get ya, katie was right on track.

Keep it up guys, I may make palin look like a champ yet! LOL!

"It's just that VP is way too important to mess around with taking a chance on someone definitely not qualified for the job."

I disagree. I'm hoping McCain doesn't get a visit by the grim reaper and will support him any day. Obama's role in the housing crisis is just one more reason why he is completely unfit for the presidency.

And the 57 states thingy...

I'll never be convinced he isn't muslim at heart.

stuck defending her because I see the slant double sword play being done to her by these democratic bards.

#128 | Posted by moneywar

Or, she's too weak to be defensible. How could someone that weak on substance possibly be qualified to be VP of the U.S.?

Putin would probably say, "Nice Pictures"

"Have any more?"

Sarah was on Hugh Hewitt today and not putting down Katie on her interview.

------

HH: Now Governor, the Gibson and the Couric interview struck many as sort of pop quizzes designed to embarrass you as opposed to interviews. Do you share that opinion?

SP: Well, I have a degree in journalism also, so it surprises me that so much has changed since I received my education in journalistic ethics all those years ago. But I'm not going to pick a fight with those who buy ink by the barrelful. I'm going to take those shots and those pop quizzes and just say that's okay, those are good testing grounds. And they can continue on in that mode. That's good. That makes somebody work even harder. It makes somebody be even clearer and more articulate in their positions. So really I don't fight it. I invite it.

I'll never be convinced he isn't muslim at heart.

#134 | Posted by happyending

I'm hoping he's sufi...then America ~ the land of the bill of right ~ might have a chance in this century

Saraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah's in 'Debate Boot Camp'

PALIN!!!! Drop and give me twenty..... names of news publications

PALIN!!!! Drop and give me ONE......other Supreme Court Case

(right) "rights" it use to be:>)

I'll never be convinced he isn't muslim at heart.

Do you actually think abama cares about you who are so open to him.

Or, she's too weak to be defensible. How could someone that weak on substance possibly be qualified to be VP of the U.S.?

If that was the case it would be clearly seen and you people wouldn't be protesting so much by asking such stupid unpolitical double sword questions.

"UC Board of Regents v Bakke
Loving v Virginia
Hamdan v Rumsfeld
Dred Scott v Sandford
US v Nixon
FCC v Pacifica"

Uh-huh...

Now let's try that w/out a browser.

Loser

Do you actually think abama cares about you who are so open to him.

#141 | Posted by moneywar

more than than McCain...Palin ~ who knows?

Bush vs Gore should have been a cinch to remember

"Do you actually think abama cares about you who are so open to him."

I can't tell by your response what the hell you're talking about. Subject-verb agreement, along with direct and indirect objects always helps. Must be a product of public schools. Bet you were one of the ones given a free loan for a house -- which you can't pay back.

Thanks, dumbfuck.

Happy,

how long did that take you to look up on the internet? Shootin from the hip I see.

AU--

You continue to mock Sarah--

Did you know that Obama had 12 MOCK debates to train for his debate with McCain??

He had some guy there feeding answers like McCain--for over 12 hours of training.

"Bet you were one of the ones given a free loan for a house -- which you can't pay back"

I want one...just like 'em bailout freaks do:>)

#146 | Posted by happyending at 2008-09-30 11:27 PM | Reply | Flag

Now we all understand why palin looks so stupid, she has to follow this type of intellect.

"how long did that take you to look up on the internet? Shootin from the hip I see."

It's post #12.

Again, dumbfuck.

AU--tick tock...

Obama was in boot camp for over 12 hours for his training to debate McCain.

He had some guy there feeding answers like McCain--for over 12 hours of training.

LOL!

At least obama is prepin like good work ethic people do. What can you say about mccain and palin.

murphy better quit and let me handle this, you can be made to look stupid too.

Again, dumbfuck.

#151 | Posted by happyending

Whoa...that one is almost as good as Tom Cruise's "WTF" in "Risky Business"

Again, dumbfuck.

Here I am defending his lady to be and he begins to attack me.

Please tell me who the dumbfuck really is.

MURPHY

The difference is Obama KNOWS the answers he gave, and had spoken about all those subjects at length over the last 20 months. He and Biden can both talk in depth and length on any of the subjects that came up Friday night because they have an in depth understanding of the issues.

Palin's cramming (new to her) information even you and I have most likely known for a long time.

"Please tell me who the dumbfuck really is."

Aren't you the one formerly known as Celisary?

Now she was a dumbfuck. Forgive me if it wasn't you, but I think it was.

You're a classic.

Murphy for Rep VP

And yes. I do mock her. McCain's out of his friggin' mind for ever having nominated her.

You're a classic.

#157 | Posted by happyending

you are not...cel & MW totally different folks, kid..

Money--Sarah is in debate BOOT camp as AU posted. And he mocks her again.

When his messiah was in boot camp for over 12 hours praticing debating skills before his debate with McCain.

McCain--BTW was in DC.

#142 | Posted by moneywar

"you people" that's cute.

Fine, if not questions about decisions by the Supreme Court, then what would YOU suggest the World ask Sarah Palin? Should we ask for her favorite cookie recipe? Should we ask for tips on field dressing caribou? What? Surely Moneywar's got some important questions that should be asked of VP candidates.

"Fine, if not questions about decisions by the Supreme Court, then what would YOU suggest the World ask Sarah Palin? "

just bra size will do

That's right, Murph. And did you hear the latest news about the moderator of the debate?

"The difference is Obama KNOWS the answers he gave, and had spoken about all those subjects at length over the last 20 months"
Per AU

Well--AU---if Obama has such an in-depth understanding of his thoughts and policies and issues--

Why did Obama need another 12 hours of training??

"Surely Moneywar's got some important questions that should be asked of VP candidates."

Veep, Schmeep. I'd ask her if she's ever heard of a Dirty Sanchez. Or maybe an Arctic Blast.

Fuck the VP -- I'm hoping McCain's ticker gives him at least four more good years. What the hell has Cheney or Gore ever done that's significant? If the Prez is good to go, the VP is just a sideshow. Fits Palin well.

what's your bra size, Murphy ~ now that u r at least my alternative rep Vp candidate

MURPHY

There's a big difference between practicing a debate and having information you and I know crammed into your head.

Yes. I mock her.

You haven't read the reports about her handlers freaking out at the practice sessions as she bumbles one answer after another?

They even had to negotiate the format of the VP debated because she'll be lucky to even be able to get through 90 seconds at a time.

Why did Obama need another 12 hours of training??

You mean to tell me bands don't practice? You mean to tell me practice is not needed in perfecting ones task.

Oh, I see by your postings murphy that YOU don't practice.

I personally don't care if Sarah got a "D" in her history class in high school. There are plenty of people who are book smart but dumb as a brick when it comes to common sense and thinking.

To me, what counts is a person who is smart enough to know he needs to surround himself with people smarter than he is in order to give him the best possible advice. NO president or VP is going to know everything about everything. It's who he/she picks to be "all the President's men" that really counts.

The only problem with that as far as Palin is concerned is, willingly or not, she is presently controlled and surrounded by Neocons who are grooming her for the office. Now THAT should scare every American after seeing what the Neocons have done to this country the last eight years.

Aren't you the one formerly known as Celisary?

Now she was a dumbfuck. Forgive me if it wasn't you, but I think it was.

You're a classic.

Talkin about dumb fucks, why don't you click on my name and see just how long I have been around.

I am a classic.

No. 25 has no dumps either...wow, what a classic!

Wrong Money--

I have no problem with practicing. I practice mediations with the pro bono ones I do at the small claims court to practice for the ones I get paid to do.
--------

Yes AU--you and the lefties here have about 14 threads on Sarah and everything about her. Including her pillow and sofa cushions tags.

She is intelligent and has much to prove. I have no doubt she will succeed.

I have to be on a boat Thursday night for marketing. I will catch the first half hour in the bar. Then get the reviews on the radio on the way home.

Fine, if not questions about decisions by the Supreme Court, then what would YOU suggest the World ask Sarah Palin? Should we ask for her favorite cookie recipe? Should we ask for tips on field dressing caribou? What? Surely Moneywar's got some important questions that should be asked of VP candidates.

Wow!

cookie recipe ranks up there with newspaper.

How about

What negative effects do you see in bailing out these banking/finance industries?

What role will you have as VP in helping this nation back on its feet?

What major task is needed to get us back into finance reform?

"Including her pillow and sofa cushions tags"

silk?

MURPHY

Sounds like a fun night Thursday for you.

Enjoy.

My whole problem with Palin is that she is not in any way, shape, or form qualified to be a 72 4X cancer survivor heartbeat away from the button.

bani,

No. 25 has no dumps either...wow, what a classic!

You old coot, you been around just as long as I, just different name.

It is strange trying to cross swords with ya, makes me have to think.

"She is intelligent and has much to prove"

Yes, starting with proving she is intelligent.

What negative effects do you see in bailing out these banking/finance industries?

What role will you have as VP in helping this nation back on its feet?

What major task is needed to get us back into finance reform?

#174 | Posted by moneywar at 2008-09-30 11:52 P

Excellent questions to ask.

I have to be on a boat Thursday night for marketing.

Deep throatin banana's?

Whereas Murphy is more qualified ~ AU

At least she would consult us before probably pushing the button:>)

Nulli,

I have a question for you.

Any more good books to suggest, I am all out and I know you are up to the latest and greatest.

AU--

After the debate the new slogan for the campaign will be ----

"A Heartbeat Away"

Null already has her losing the debate--as many others --

It will be great to smile when it's over and she did just fine plus more.

It is strange trying to cross swords with ya, makes me have to think.

#177 | Posted by moneywar

I'm just recovering from the Twins lost to White Sox tonite...a two hitter & we have the AFL batting champ & maybe RBI champ

"Null already has her losing the debate--as many others --"

I didn't say that, Murphy. Expectations are so low that if she doesn't run off the stage in the middle of the debate you and the other partisan hacks will say she "won".

AA---if Gwen Ifll is gaga over Joe she'll be ruined.

And did you see the latest video from Hollywood productions?

americanarmed.blogspot.com

#185 | Posted by an

& who owns the media again ~ an?

Kinda reminds us of this--

www.youtube.com

If we ignore history we risk repeating it.

#187 | Posted by MURPHY

nasty, nasty...you might get a dump like the 2 I have:>)

What negative effects do you see in bailing out these banking/finance industries?

What role will you have as VP in helping this nation back on its feet?

What major task is needed to get us back into finance reform?

#174 | Posted by moneywar

Good! I agree that those are also important questions but, especially given the influence of our current VP, I would say that the candidates' views on constitutional law with regards to the Supreme Court is every bit as important. Do you really believe that Cheney, or any VP for that matter, hasn't affected actions that have required legal interpretation by the SC?

"Talkin about dumb fucks, why don't you click on my name and see just how long I have been around."

Is that the equivalent of telling the officer when you get pulled over, "Do you know who I am?"

I'm pretty sure you're Celisary.

"Any more good books to suggest, I am all out and I know you are up to the latest and greatest."

& who owns the media again ~ an?

#188 | Posted by Bani at 2008-10-01 12:08 AM

Yeh, everybody in the country sees them on their television daily, right?

"I'm pretty sure you're Celisary."

You know, it takes a big man to admit when they're wrong -- and I'm just your man. You're not formerly know as Celisary and I apologize. You're formerly known as Crassus.

Now she was a dumbfuck.

(but you already knew that...)

I'm pretty sure you're Celisary.

#191 | Posted by happyending

beleg/boyd yes...no to the above.

Also to MW ~ I've always been Bani here...no other name.

I was on yahoo chatline until the NWO shut it down, however, & maybe we interacted there awhile

Later gators---

MURPHY

Just swing by here after your boat shindig on Thursday and we'll give you an honest appraisal of how Sarah did.

*grin*

I don't even have time, Money, to read all the good articles at
www.zcommunications.org
www.counterpunch.org
www.alternet.org

and many others.

And don't forget Mother Jones and The Nation

Or the CPUSA newsletter.

Maybe a Noam Chomsky pamphlet when you're taking a dump.

Always jam a little Zack De La Rocha on your way to work.

Pete Seeger wrote some relevant shit.

You absorb all of that and you'll be the most well-informed, well-rounded person on all of earth.

You'll be on the on-ramp to the Highway of Being Taken Seriously.

Trust me.

Pete Seeger was on Letterman last night.

89 years old.

Pretty amazing a singer is still at it at that age.

The audience loved it.

Pretty amazing a singer is still at it at that age.

And a despicable apologist for the most murderous ideology humanity has ever known.

He'll be rotting in hell when Bristol has her baby.

That makes me happy.

Maybe a Noam Chomsky pamphlet when you're taking a dump.

PM

noam a shill for Israel...didn't you get the memo?

" Posted by Pinche_Mao"

Well I was going to recommend Stalin and Lenin to Moneywar but I wanted to leave some space for the inevitable crack from JeffJ. But then you had to go step on his favorite line. He ought to curbstomp you for that.

Well I was going to recommend Stalin and Lenin

What tomes by either would you have recommended?

tombs?

The State and Revolution, but only in the original Russian, Curbstump. The English translations just don't do it justice...

The English translations just don't do it justice...

But you don't speak Russian...

Can Rogers do Cyrillic?

Great Paper! Better in Russian, though:>/

"But you don't speak Russian..."

No shit. :)

Thanks Nulli,

I see the daily character slasher has finally shown up. As usual he doesn't have much to say.

Soon to follow, JJ, his powerful side kick.

I have to laugh.

Put down Pravda and start thinking for yourselves, Kamrades.

How about Das Kapital?

As much as I could go for a good Commie-fest, I've got other priorities at the moment.

Later all.

Soon to follow, JJ, his powerful side kick.

#211 | Posted by moneywar

Wow, that was impressive! Did someone text their BFF JJ with their cell-phone, or what?

#215 | Posted by Whatsleft

I wasn't going to post tonight, but when I saw MW's comment, I just had to.

Alright, really gone now.

Soon to follow, JJ, his powerful side kick.

#211 | Posted by moneywar at 2008-10-01 01:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

4 minutes later.

I have to laugh.

Put down Pravda and start thinking for yourselves, Kamrades.

#212 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-10-01 01:24 AM

You called it, Money. Got any betting or stock tips?

You called it, Money. Got any betting or stock tips?

Buy low and Speak the Language of Known Conflict!

--Moneywar

ff PM!

What role will you have as VP in helping this nation back on its feet?

She has to figure out just exactly what it is that the VP does every day, and how it will benefit Alaska. Still it might be worth revisiting the question now that she (hopefully) knows more now.

"PALIN: I'll try to find you some, and I'll bring them to you."

When?

Dunce.

Did anyone mention how Biden, in Hillary fashion, claimed to have been under fire in Iraq. Which turned out to have been a car backfiring.

Did anyone watch or hear Biden's so called "questioning" of Judge Alito in during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings?

This guy is not only not qualified to be VP, he isn't qualified for the job he has now. Joe Biden is a mental midget with a big mouth.

"Did anyone mention how Biden, in Hillary fashion, claimed to have been under fire in Iraq."

See earlier thread.

"Did anyone watch or hear Biden's so called "questioning" of Judge Alito in during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings?"

No. There must've been a blackout. Part of The Conspiracy. Better look into it, pronto.

"This guy is not only not qualified to be VP, he isn't qualified for the job he has now."

Do you know what the qualifications are for being a U.S. Senator? (Hint: check out the Constitution.)

"Joe Biden is a mental midget with a big mouth."

You're projecting again.

I'm just glad that Sarah is not a black woman. She would have burned at the stake by now.

If Sarah were Black.....

Hysterical Whoopi might not be so scared of becoming a slave under a McCain admin.....

(McCain missed an opportunity to assure that the party of Lincoln could never do that).

All the deflecting and personal attacks aside:

Every Republican on here knows Palin is not qualified. Every Republican on here knows she is a goof and an embarrassment to even be on the ticket.

Are McCain, Obama, and Biden perfect? Hell, no. Far from it. I wish there were others in the running. But to continue to deflect away from her obvious lack of experience and worldview--hell, even nation-view, she doesn't even have that...to continue to defend her is just ludicrous. Those that continue to defend her make both her and themselves look more foolish.

"Do you know what the qualifications are for being a U.S. Senator? (Hint: check out the Constitution.)"

If you go by that weak argument then you can't argue that Sarah is not qualified to be VP. The Constitution says so right?

"Joe Biden is a mental midget with a big mouth."

"You're projecting again."
Posted by Doc_Sarvis

FakeDoc: Again, you don't have an argument to the statement so I assume you agree.

I have heard that she can't even name more than one of her own children without prompting.

I would bet that 1/2 of you bashing Palin had to do some internet research before stating all the supreme court cases you were aware of.

I do agree that Palin is weak on experience. I also find it quite amusing that some would attack Palin's lack of experience and then defend Obama's lack of experience in the same breath with crap like "Obama was a community orgainizer".

That my friends is just partisan bullshit.

The reality is they are both equally inexperienced and both have made their fair share of mistakes along the campaign trail.

The mistakes of the Bush administration is what gives Obama such a strong chance of winning in November, but lets not confuse Obama for a quality candidate or the candidate of "change".

He is just like every other politican...follow the $$$$.

Sounds like Palin had a brain-freeze. Which is something that happens to anybody/everybody. And which is why someone running for office _must_ do what Obama did, practice and prepare as much as possible. Have phrases they can repeat in their sleep. Have throwaway lines. Etc. I'm amazed Palin couldn't say that she read the National Review. Would stop all controversy right there.

SAMBAR.....

I know Palin is qualified. She has more executive experience than Obama who is seeking the number one position. On the job training for Obama, sorry come back 8 years later.

Because McCain will be the 44th.

sarah palin is qualified? executive experience you say?

how come her home town is in the meth capital of the world?

supposedly this is being aired tonight.

Truthhurts

Obama is from Chicago...the gang capital of the world. More deaths per year than any major city.

Why didn't he fix it?

These liberals doesn't know what governor is, and think they are smarter than others.... lol.

(btw, McCain is 9 years younger than Sidney Poitier).

How can a person running for a 72 year old heartbeat away from the most powerful position on earth not be able to name a single Supreme Court decision with which she disagrees?

Video here of Palin not able to name a single Supreme Court decision aside from Roe.

Come on, that is a totally unfair question. It's not fair to ask her questions about legal decisions made by the highest court in the land.

I mean what possible reason would a former Mayor, sitting Governor and VP nominee have to be familiar with decisions made by the judicial system?

In all serious, to the Conservatives who read this, are you able to watch her give answers like this one, and the classic i can see Russia from my house, and not feel a deep sense embarrassment?

Any reasonably aware high school student should be able to answer this question with an actual case or three.

God, it hurts so much to watch this. I feel so bad for her. It's downright embarrassing.

That just the point idiot. If she was qualified for the VP of the USA and a heartbeat away from the Presidency she should know more. I don't know the the answers to these questions either but then again I would not seek this office either. As a responsible citizen who puts country first I would told John McCain , thanks but no thanks, when he offered her the job.

"Only Supreme Court Case I know is Roe"

Me, too! She's as dumb as I am! She's real. I'm gonna vote for her, because she's an outsider and fresh and un-polished and dumb.

the title for this post is misleading - i'm sure sarah is not the ONLY one who can name a supreme court case.

It may be embarrassing-that's what we developed consciences for-to let us know when we're operating outside Societal norms.
People like her tho-don't think they can be outside Societal norms-since-(in their own easy-bake minds)-of course-THEY themselves make the determination of what's right and wrong. So-anything they do is right, because, well-THEY did it-that makes it right.

fresh and un-polished and dumb.

I have a turd floating in my toilet that's fresher...

Folks-
Check out the video:

and probably less dumb

" less dumb "

Posted by steamingpile

Bradfruit

BIMBOE........Dan Quale

Takitez:

When you are done farting out your NEXT embarrassing attempt at a retort, be sure to wave a piece of paper around to clear the air, then light a candle.

FF for OWS!

How can a person running for a 72 year old heartbeat away from the most powerful position on earth not be able to name a single Supreme Court decision with which she disagrees?

by being nominated.

SAMBARBER,

I pray that you do not lose your mind when John McCain become the 44th President. I really pity you!

Takitez:
save your pity for the United States if McCain and Palin are chosen as our next leaders!

So we're doing re-runs now on DR? What, couldn't get enough posts on this same subject a few day agos so you have to do a re-run?

John McCain demonstrated that he puts ambition before country but fortunately his cynical choice of Palin seems to be hurting him more than helping him.

So-anything they do is right, because, well-THEY did it-that makes it right.

#8 | Posted by frankf55

Frank, you're a god damned genius. You nailed it. Newsworthy.

fresh and un-polished and dumb.

I have a turd floating in my toilet that's fresher...

#9 | Posted by frankf55

If you're so smart, why arn't you running for president?

Tell em once again how smart both dem canidates are, I keep forgetting.

Wow, now we have identical threads bookending the front page. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Wow, now we have identical threads bookending the front page. Talk about beating a dead horse.

#19 | Posted by Sully at 2008-10-02 10:51 AM

With Lipstick!

"Tell em once again how smart both dem canidates are, I keep forgetting."

I'll bet you do.

I hope in about 30 days I never hear this idiots name or see her face ever again.

That is what would make me happy!

Here's the thing - she made comments, as Governor of Alaska, on the recent Supreme Court ruling regarding the Exxon Valdiz decision - which she claimed NOT to agree with. Well - she can't even remember THAT one, that directly affects the state she is GOVERNOR of? I thought all the kool aid drinkers believe because she is governor of Alaska, that gives her the experience and background necessary to be a heartbeat away from the presidency of the United States. She can't even remember a Supreme Court decision that is SO IMPORTANT to her own state? We're screwed if this woman gets within pissing distance of the White House.

Funny to listen to the genius's on this site rip Palin for being stupid. Have any of the lib xperts on this site have been elected to anything. Most of the lib genius's couldn't get elected to their PTA's.

But they could be 'community organizers' and give seminars to Acorn losers on how to protest banks that 'red line'.

"But they could be 'community organizers' and give seminars to Acorn losers on how to protest banks that 'red line'."

yeah cuz us dumb libruls are against red lining unlike geniuses like MIDTOWNCOWBOY who appreciated a little red lining to protect his lilly white neighborhood.

Damned if that wasn't racist as hell, Danni...insinuating that only blacks are poor.

"Any reasonably aware high school student should be able to answer this question with an actual case or three." My grown kids didn't know any and they were educated by the fine public school system.

yeah cuz us dumb libruls are against red lining unlike geniuses like MIDTOWNCOWBOY who appreciated a little red lining to protect his lilly white neighborhood.
Oh wow, Dunni figured it out.

Hows the market doing dunni? Damn Bush. This is his fault for forcing banks to make all of those non qualifing loans.

Librul are either young, idealistic children who like to cluster in groups and be taken care of. Or they are old idiots that don't know any better and want to be taken care of. Or they are just idiots who want to be taken care of.

Which are you Dunni?

But they could be 'community organizers' and give seminars to Acorn losers on how to protest banks that 'red line'.

Jesus was a community organizer... and now such an activity us frowned upon. The dichotomy of the conservative mind.

No one forced Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to make bad loans. This is typical conservative blame shifting. What you do is blame the people for whom trickle down economics is supposed to work for when it proves for probably the hundredth that it doesn't. The kind of capitalistic you favor is the kind that invites socialism... and drives people from Mexico to the US. Conservatives creat the thing they hate.

as Governor of Alaska, on the recent Supreme Court ruling regarding the Exxon Valdiz decision - which she claimed NOT to agree with. Well - she can't even remember THAT one

YEAH!

I wonder if her teleprompter broke ----- or maybe she just missed reading every paper in the world that morning?

"Any reasonably aware high school student should be able to answer this question with an actual case or three." My grown kids didn't know any and they were educated by the fine public school system.

#27 | Posted by KBM

Betel said "reasonably aware".

John McCain demonstrated that he puts ambition before country but fortunately his cynical choice of Palin seems to be hurting him more than helping him.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2008-10-02 10

pure and simple.............bullshit...
......

a man who puts his political future on the line rather than give up his ethics on something as major as the war on terror does not put ambition before country and I simply will not allow you to get away with that liberal jibberish.

and I assure you. the only people who think she is hurting him are liberals here on this site and elitist in the media and on the east coast........

Jesus was a community organizer... and now such an activity us frowned upon.
Really? Can you provide references for this?

Tell em once again how smart both dem canidates are, I keep forgetting.

#18 | Posted by Sniper

If any of you right wingers are smart enough to know what this is, go on down to Harvard and try to be on the Harvard Law Review. Obama was.

I'm an electrical engineer and I'm pretty damned smart but I couldn't touch this level of brainiacism.

The most impressive thing Biden has done was be chairman of the Committee on Foriegn Relations (I'll bet not one of you righteys knows what this is, even though it is the most powerful, secretive committee in government).

Bush was a cheerleader.

McSame finished almost last in his college.

Palin had to change schools six times to find one that would give her a bullshit degree in journalism.

Durrr, let me see, which set is smarter.

No one forced Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to make bad loans.
You should research the role of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Wipe your nose. Then post your correction.

How can a person running for a 72 year old heartbeat away from the most powerful position on earth not be able to name a single Supreme Court decision with which she disagrees?

#1 | Posted by BetelG

And, I MUST remind you that Obama will be PRESIDENT! That means Commander-in-Chief!!!

:)

Do you realize how many people are going to GET OUT of the military?

However, if Ron Paul were going to be President, this would be a non-issue, now wouldn't it.

John McCain demonstrated that he puts ambition before country but fortunately his cynical choice of Palin seems to be hurting him more than helping him.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2008-10-02 10

Uhh... Danni? Hello???

The Democrats picked Obama... TO BE PRESIDENT!!!

LOL

Low interest created the housing bubble.
George Bush and Alan Greenspan created the housing bubble.
It got Bush reelected in 2004 as it was designed to do.
Now we all get to pay the price for their criminal decisions.

I'm an electrical engineer and I'm pretty damned smart but I couldn't touch this level of brainiacism.

Durrr, let me see, which set is smarter.

When will Ohmama release his test scores for admission into Harvard?

McCain has been senator over 15 years.
By your reasoning, thats means your a dumbass compared to him.

Palin is one of only 50 goveners.
By your reasoning, thats means your a dumbass
compared to her.

Looks like your a dumbass.

"Uhh... Danni? Hello???"

We'll talk again after election day....if you have the guts to even show up here Eddie.
My bet is most of the righties will stop posting and go back to just listening to hate radio 24/7.

"Looks like your(sic) a dumbass."

Posted by midtowncowboy

Another brilliant self-retorting retort.

Obama graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, imbecile.

"Ohmama"
"your a dumbass."
"goveners"
"thats means your a dumbass"
"your a dumbass"

Another classic self-retorting retort from Midtown.

Maybe he's mentally retorted!

"By your reasoning, thats means your a dumbass compared to him."

It is always a good idea to spell the words correctly when you are calling someone else a dumbass. When you misspell words it sort of makes you look like the dumbass.
I ordinarily don't comment on spelling, I make errors too, but hopefully not when I am actually calling someone else a dumbass.

Palin had to change schools six times to find one that would give her a bullshit degree in journalism.

Durrr, let me see, which set is smarter.

#34 | Posted by Lipzoidial

well lets see..........how have all those harvard degrees helped us on the finaincial front these days?

and you prove my point.
all this nonsense about obama being so depressed as a child and such a horrible life that he sprung from to be a senator.........nonsense

elite schools from beginning to end.........now if it means that I have to congratulate his grandparents and his mother who GOT FOOD STAMPS while working on phd then so be it........good for them..............

Like any of you could site the names of any case. Get real losers.

I am sure most of you can not even remember what is on the value menu at your place of employment

"My bet is most of the righties will stop posting"

Nah...they'll return under different handles, not wanting to own up to their own stupidity.

FF for Danforth!

Low interest created the housing bubble.
George Bush and Alan Greenspan created the housing bubble.
It got Bush reelected in 2004 as it was designed to do.
Now we all get to pay the price for their criminal decisions.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2008-10-02 11:

oh danni...please listen or read something more than cnn or the times

I heard tapes this week of republicans.......senator lugar for one......warning of problems with mae and mac as early as 2003 and I have heard tapes of frank telling us that they were strong and going to be okay and all that...

and this bailout was described by a caller to a local show I was listening to in an interesting and possibly correct way

its "stealth repriations"

so what do some of you think of that idea?????

Why is that dannie?

Low interest created the housing bubble.
George Bush and Alan Greenspan created the housing bubble.
It got Bush reelected in 2004 as it was designed to do.
Now we all get to pay the price for their criminal decisions.

#38 | Posted by danni

And you diss Palin's intelligence. Grow up. I will mail you a quarter to go buy a clue.

In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

1999 for anyone that is interested - no GWB - yet

I almost want to vote for McBush just for the reason that this dumb ass Pit bull with lip stick could be the President! I mean just picture her on your tv giving the state of the union address...
Is that what you want as your president??? You must be fuckin kidding!!!

But some of you will vote for McBush simply because you cant vote for a black man! You would rather vote for the same ole same and expect something different. What can another old white man with one foot in the grave offer this country now? The rest of the world is moving forward and we here in America still can't get over skin color.

Time to get over the hate in your hart and vote for someone who actually graduated from an iv league school.

P.S I don't spell check or grammer check cuzz i don't give a shit!

Low interest created the housing bubble.
George Bush and Alan Greenspan created the housing bubble.
It got Bush reelected in 2004 as it was designed to do.
Now we all get to pay the price for their criminal decisions.

#38 | Posted by danni

dani, please watch and listen......

a man who puts his political future on the line rather than give up his ethics on something as major

Too bad he gave up his ethics on just about everything else he once stood for.

"The rest of the world is moving forward and we here in America still can't get over skin color."

#52 | Posted by NeonDeon

Speak for yourself, numbnuts.

But some of you will vote for McBush simply because you cant vote for a black man!

#52 | Posted by NeonDeon at 2008-10-02 11:46 AM

And you are voting for him because he is black?????

Time to get over the hate in your hart and vote for someone who actually graduated from an iv league school

#52 | Posted by NeonDeon at 2008-10-02 11:46 AM

Is this now a lib policy????????

"1999 for anyone that is interested - no GWB - yet"

OK, then where was he between 2001 and 2008???
Where was the Republican Congress???

Oh wait...I know...AWOL!

No matter what occurred previous to the lowering of interest rates post 9-11 the housing bubble would not have existed had the interest rates not been held so low. The majority of the homes in foreclosure would have had too large of a mortgage payment for people to have even considered buying them. I posted here often about it at the time.
The problems of regulation enabled Greenspan and Bush but they chose to take advantage of the lack of regulations to create "equity" they knew fully well would evaporate when interest rates rose to realistic levels. Spin it any way you want but any fair minded person knows that is the truth.

thanks for the video ret

just this morning on CNN so it has to be true..

senator lugar talked about his warning of the SAME FUCKIN things and then about how the dems stopped them at EVERY TURN..........

what does this matter concerning the 'crisis'....it means that all of this bullshit from leftists here and on the media ARE LYING SACKS OF SHIT just like thier icon named clinton...........

and when WILL MCCAIN CALL THEM ON IT>..........

hey, knock it off, why attack Palin just because she is a dumb ass, it's still a nice ass!

danni.....that congress you are talking about was stopped at every turn with every trick the dems could muster and remember this too.

MANY TIMES THEY WERE LED BY JOHN MCCAIN in different ways..........gang of 14 perhaps, you remember............

and here we go again...........libs tell us that the republican MINORITY has kept thier congress from doing anything and then they turn RIGHT AROUND and bitch about how a republican congress didnt do anything when the DEMOCRAT MINORITY DID THE SAME GOD DAMNED THING.....

you cant have it both ways sweety..........

But some of you will vote for McBush simply because you cant vote for a black man!

#52 | Posted by NeonDeon at 2008-10-02 11:46 AM

you cant be talking to me because I have LONG stated that I would have liked to see condi rice run for president.........

and you sound a little like mahr did yesterday on daily show when he called this country

the united stupid states of america..........

But some of you will vote for McBush simply because you cant vote for a black man!

He is not black. He is a muslim american. Get it right damnit!

Is this now a lib policy????????
YES!!

BL2: Wipe your spittle off the screen before you go golfing.

Time to get over the hate in your hart and vote for someone who actually graduated from an iv league school.

P.S I don't spell check or grammer check cuzz i don't give a shit!

#52 | Posted by NeonDeon at 2008-10-02 11:46 AM | Reply

Ordinarily I'd assume it is simply the case of a dropped "y", but I have a sneaking suspicion you're really stupid enough to believe it's an "IV" league school.

"danni.....that congress you are talking about was stopped at every turn with every trick the dems could muster and remember this too."

Bull shit. The Republicans held majorities in both houses and could have passed anything they wanted.

EVen if they were...it still wouldn't change the fact that the interest rates created the bubble.
You morons are trying to pretend that only the low income mortgages are what created this proble when that was really only a small part of it.
The problem was created by the bubble bursting and people couldn't refinance when interest rates made their mortgage payments skyrocket.
Y'all have listened to right wingers spinning this problem away from blaming Bush but it is simply bull shit.
For once in my life I would like to see right wingers and Republicans take responsibility for the effects of their actions. I doubt that I ever will.
Y'all are physically incapable of ever admitting responsibility.

hey, knock it off, why attack Palin just because she is a dumb ass, it's still a nice ass!

~Onna.

Which is precisely how she got the nod.

One of McCain's handlers walked in on John a couple of months back and threw a picture of Sarah on his desk. Told him, "We're thinking of tapping her to be yer Veep"

John was distracted and only half heard.

He looked down at the pic and sed...

"Hell, yeah, I'd tap that!"

Be Well.

/Is noon on the east coast, nine on the west and the Drudge Retort's dethspud has just entered blogworld in the usual fashion
stage left.

Obama graduated from Harvard magna cum laude, imbecile.
So why does he think there are 57 states in the US?

Why did he want the UN security council to issue a resolution against Russia's invasion of Georgia?

His sheep skin is a nice wall decoration.

Where are his test scores for admission into Harvard? We saw Bush's and Kerry's scores.

A tiger that went head to head with the oil companies in Alaska, now sounds like a 3 year old in the interview with Katie Couric. As Governor she publically objected to the Supreme Court fucking over local fishermen on behalf on Exxon. Yet she couldn't name a single Supreme Court Case other than Roe vs Wade, when Katie asked. She was completely and repeatedly tongue tied. Her husband refers to her as whale blubber in one YouTube Video.

Bull shit. The Republicans held majorities in both houses and could have passed anything they wanted.

BINGO BABY>..JUST LIKE NOW.......the crisis could have passed on the FIRST DAY if the dems REALLY Wanted it to pass which I dont for a second believe they did........

so thanks for the help

gotta go

have a great day in

I wish she would have brought up the decision to give rights to terrorists........that would have brought down the conservative house for her yet again............

The haters, the frothing at the mouth rigid righties, are really out in force today. Billy El Cid, the Gay BLT, the laconic Ret, all spinning in their trash heaps, trying to make something come out favorably for the crime syndicate that's robbed them blind for the past eight years. My head spins ... I want to throw up ... herm

Herm, with the usual up-to-date play-by-play, is really out in force today.

"A tiger that went head to head with the oil companies in Alaska, now sounds like a 3 year old in the interview with Katie Couric."

She has been body snatched by the Neocons.

Anyone think her tax on oil companies which allowed Alaska to send checks to every citizen of the state would now be her choice of tax policies???

Absolutely not. I think that is why she is so tongue tied, she is conflicted between the old Sarah and the new Sarah, just like John is between his new personna and his old maverick reputation.

Neither would be running now had they both not agreed to tow the neocon party line.

BINGO BABY>..JUST LIKE NOW.......the crisis could have passed on the FIRST DAY if the dems REALLY Wanted it to pass which I dont for a second believe they did........

so thanks for the help

gotta go

have a great day in

#71 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-10-02 12:24 PM

How many dems in the Senate dummy?

"BINGO BABY>..JUST LIKE NOW.......the crisis could have passed on the FIRST DAY if the dems REALLY Wanted it to pass which I dont for a second believe they did........"

And I hope the Dems FORCE the Republicans to share the responsibility for the bill again. The Republicans created the mess and should now stand up and vote for this bill to try and alleviate the problem. If they won't then let them be responsible for the economy crashing.

"McCain is 9 years younger than Sidney Poitier."

If Sidney runs, I'll gladly vote for him. But at 80, Sidney has infinitely more smarts than John McC, and may realizs that there's a time you can no longer get it up. Maybe that's John's problem. herm

the crisis could have passed on the FIRST DAY

~Vern.

Here's the deal, Vern.

There are systemic problems with the US economy that this current crisis have brought to light but under no circumstances should you imagine that this bailout (which will eventually cost ya over a trillion dollars) will solve the underlying fundamental problems.

The American economy has been shot fulla holes and this solution that's being proposed is like an offer of a band-aid.

Yer bleeding 10 Billion a month into the ever-thirsty sands of the ME.

Yer tax codes are so fulla loopholes that Billions more are lost annually.

Yer congress and senate and executive are all overly influenced by corporate entities who do not have the long term interest of the American people in mind.

This Trillion dollar band-aid does nothing real to address those concerns.

Be Well.

In her defense, she's not very smart. I know lot's of dumb people who can't name a Supreme Court case that they disagree with.

***** i'm sure sarah is not the ONLY one who can not name a supreme court case... Posted by nanc ***

...nor the only one who does not read a newspaper...

...but do you want people with such a lack of perspicacity to lead the country.?.....

I hate Sarah Palin as much as anybody, but it doesn't say that she didn't *KNOW* any other court cases. Instead, it said that she was "unable to discuss them," which also might indicate that she was merely unwilling to discuss them. Perhaps the interviewer should have asked about recent cases, such as Hilo v. New London.

This topic is a little "over the top" if you ask me. We already knew she's too dumb to be VP.

I sez "Jesus was a community organizer... and now such an activity us frowned upon. The dichotomy of the conservative mind."

So Bushpussydeux askesReally? Can you provide references for this?

The sermon on the mount.... ummmm... you know when he got the crowd together to discuss how to treat one another... the feeding of the masses.... (and the republican especially hate this one....the free healing seminars he used to give the lepars.... I can do this all day.... more that I can say for Gov. Palin and Supremes

Pissed off the conservatives then too. Goddamn that Jesus telling us to get along with the Semites... appeassing the Romans...

So Peter says to Paul... look Paul I knew Jesus... Jesus and I were friends... and you're no Jesus....

For all of the obamabots here...I wonder if she knows how many states are in the Union. If she does, that puts her ahead of your guy. Further, for those who don't think she can speek without a teleprompter, ever here your guy witout his script? well...uh...mmm...I mean....abah...umm...

I wish she would have brought up the decision to give rights to terrorists........that would have brought down the conservative house for her yet again............

#241 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-10-02 12:30 PM

Must we explain the US Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Geneva Conventions to you once again?

Oh, yeah, I forget Real Manly Conservatives don't read stuff like that.

Here let me help you...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So, prisoners are either prisoners of WAR and are thus entitled to the rights as defined and spelled out in the Geneva Convention or they are criminals and thus have rights as spelled out in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

But, it is more fun to invoke Nationalism and Patriotism and, yes, even Fascist rhetoric to incite the masses huh?

That is because History and FACTS are boring to the NEOCONS.

For all of the obamabots here...I wonder if she knows how many states are in the Union. If she does, that puts her ahead of your guy. Further, for those who don't think she can speek without a teleprompter, ever here your guy witout his script? well...uh...mmm...I mean....abah...umm...

Posted by A_Citizen at 2008-10-02 02:07 PM | Reply

Number of U.S. states, territories and DC: 57.

Anyone heard about rumor debate questions have been leaked from Ifill staff to Obama Camp so Biden will be prepared?

Any truth to rumor debate questions have been leaked from Ifill staff to Obama Camp so Biden will be prepared?

"Any truth...?"

No.

"Any truth...?"

No.

#331 | Posted by Danforth

LOL!!!!

how naive...

**** Further, for those who don't think she can speek without a teleprompter, ever here your guy witout his script? well...uh...mmm...I mean....abah...umm...
...... Posted by A_Citizen *****

......Obama was sharp enough in the debate to beat McCain......

.......Obama's numbers went up after the debate....so we know who won that one.......

I feel confident Biden will win tonights debate. Ifil has a huge financial stake in Obama taking office. She wont let us down. She cant afford to. Just keeping fingers cross Biden doesnt sabbotage himself with one of his gaffs and can remember the answers he's prepared to the questions. If Biden screws this up, I guess he and Obama deserve to lose.

Are you kidding? Biden could screw this up, even against someone like Palin. He didnt even know who was Pres when Great Depression started.

You morons are trying to pretend that only the low income mortgages are what created this proble when that was really only a small part of it.
The problem was created by the bubble bursting and people couldn't refinance when interest rates made their mortgage payments skyrocket.
Y'all have listened to right wingers spinning this problem away from blaming Bush but it is simply bull shit.

#307 | Posted by danni

Not entirely correct Danni.

I agree with you that Bush has had the responsibility to get this under control, but the current research by the MSM into the recent history of the problem points more and more to Democrats, namely one who I won't name, but his initials are BARNEY FRANK!

Anyone heard about rumor debate questions have been leaked from Ifill staff to Obama Camp so Biden will be prepared?

#329 | Posted by kcr903 at 2008-10-02 02:34 PM | Reply

At this point, anything the Obama camp does is suspect.

Picking up homeless people and letting them use the YMCA or the homeless shelter as a "temporary" address so they can sign up and vote on the same day. How blatant is that? Next day, different Ohio town, different YMCA or homeless shelter. "Can I get a six pack of bud for voting this time, Mr. Community Organizer(ACORN)? I promise to vote for Obama again. He's my man."

Are you kidding? Biden could screw this up, even against someone like Palin. He didnt even know who was Pres when Great Depression started.

#335 | Posted by kcr903

All's Biden needs to do is to compliment Palin with "My, you're a sassy gal, and articulate too!"

EDDIE

I respectfully disagree.

It was Phil Gramm who opened the door to banks and securities corporations to expand their business models into these exotic financial instruments like 'credit default swaps' that provided the capitol in the first place to those who offered crazy mortgages. Where do you think they got the legal right to mix their business models? 1999 - 298 pages Gramm slipped in when no one was looking that undid decades of protection from risky practices.

" After capably serving as Secretary of Commerce under Presidents Harding and Coolidge, Hoover became the Republican Presidential nominee in 1928. He said then: "We in America today are nearer to the final triumph over poverty than ever before in the history of any land." His election seemed to ensure prosperity. Yet within months the stock market crashed, and the Nation spiraled downward into depression.

After the crash Hoover announced that while he would keep the Federal budget balanced, he would cut taxes and expand public works spending.

In 1931 repercussions from Europe deepened the crisis, even though the President presented to Congress a program asking for creation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to aid business, additional help for farmers facing mortgage foreclosures, banking reform, a loan to states for feeding the unemployed, expansion of public works, and drastic governmental economy.

At the same time he reiterated his view that while people must not suffer from hunger and cold, caring for them must be primarily a local and voluntary responsibility. "

I respectfully disagree.

#339 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Thanks for being respectful, AU, but the Democrats are just as guilty as the Republicans in this. It's a bi-partisan screw up. But, they didn't screw up, it was a way to rip off more wealth from the rest of the world (just print more money)

EDDIE

It's egregious that Paulson kept this looming crisis under wraps until the shit hit the fan, isn't it? There would have been so many other routes to take.

It's like having an aortal aneurism. When the damn thing is about to blow any second you have to perform surgery ASAP or die, where if you know there's a problem looming on the horizon you can put in stents, do a bypass, or take other measures. You have time to consider options.

Treasury keeping their knowledge of how bad things were to themselves is what caused the emergency surgery to become necessary to prevent a total collapse of our financial system. if they'd let Congress know other measures could have been considered before it was life threatening.

It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Now, I wish people would pay attention to what the massive national debt we've racked up does. $500,000,000,000 (billion) last year alone to service the national debt. $700,000,000,000 (billion - potentially) everyone's screaming about now is only a year and 4 months of what we're laying out ALL THE TIME because of the spending spree and borrowing of the last several years.

"how naive..."

How stupid.